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Security - Is It Overkill?

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By *kmale421 OP   Man
over a year ago

wirral

I have been thinking about the different levels of security employed at various events that I have attended recently and wonder just how the authorities decide how to set their different levels of security for different events.

First off, I'm a football fan and on occasion follow my team, Liverpool, to away grounds and last season to Wembley for 2 cup finals and a semi final. At all away games and at the 3 Wembley events, I along with every other Liverpool fan, man, woman or child, were subject to a pat down search including the opening of any bags for Security in the shape of stewards to determine if we were "safe" to enter the ground. The same happens as far as I am aware for any away fan visiting Anfield. While once there was a major hooliganism problem associatted with football, I'd have to say nowadays incidents are few and far between, so why the need for the search. As a home fan just for the record I am never searched.

Then I went to The Pier Head at Liverpool on Day 14 of the Olympic Flames tour of the country to see the lighting of the cauldron. About 20000 people attended from babies to Grannies and everyone of us was subjected to airport style security with body scanners and patdown searches, creating massive queues. We put up with it because, well because you do nowadays and if we didn't you didn't get in.

Then a couple of weeks ago, I went to Royal Ascot for an event attended by no less than The Queen herself. Although every one was dressed up in their finary as at any race meeting tbh, with the exclusion of the top hats and tails (we didn't wear them as we weren't actually in the Royal Enclosure). During the day, I guess at one point we were less than 50 foot from the Queen and many were much closer. On entering the racecourse the security check was would our ticket go through the scanner, no body scanners, no bag searches no pat down searches. In fact there was more security checking people leaving to make sure they weren't nicking 1/2 empty bottle of wine and champagne. And at this event, a fight broke out.

I just find it amazing that just because some people have a little bit of wealth (not me I hasten to add, i just got lucky getting a ticket) that the authorities deem those people to be so low risk they don't need searching and yet the spies of this country and the people who cause the financial woes of this country will have been the people at Ascot, not the ones at the football or trying to see the flame.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Ok, i live in a small, nice little town. We had the flame on tuesday. I went down the town in the morning around 11am and the torch was coming at about 2.30. I have never seen so many police in my life, they where checking all the mail boxes, under cars, there was already ambulances on standby. Come the afternoon it was even worse. That was just to see the torch.

We had the queen visit a few years back and i cant remember seeing hardly any police in comparison. God knows what they would do if there was a major event here

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

DON'T catch the bus to Preston.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

if they don't, they will be crucified if something happens

if they do, they will be crucified if nothing happens.

it is Britain after all and any of the above will be twisted for political advantage or bitterness towards the country

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By *kmale421 OP   Man
over a year ago

wirral


"if they don't, they will be crucified if something happens

if they do, they will be crucified if nothing happens.

it is Britain after all and any of the above will be twisted for political advantage or bitterness towards the country"

The comparison I was drawing though was the lack of security just becasue it was a monied event (Ascot) and the overkill of security when it's the normal people of the country in attendance

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By *adja_lazloCouple
over a year ago

Solihull


"I have been thinking about the different levels of security employed at various events that I have attended recently and wonder just how the authorities decide how to set their different levels of security for different events.

First off, I'm a football fan and on occasion follow my team, Liverpool, to away grounds and last season to Wembley for 2 cup finals and a semi final. At all away games and at the 3 Wembley events, I along with every other Liverpool fan, man, woman or child, were subject to a pat down search including the opening of any bags for Security in the shape of stewards to determine if we were "safe" to enter the ground. The same happens as far as I am aware for any away fan visiting Anfield. While once there was a major hooliganism problem associatted with football, I'd have to say nowadays incidents are few and far between, so why the need for the search. As a home fan just for the record I am never searched.

Then I went to The Pier Head at Liverpool on Day 14 of the Olympic Flames tour of the country to see the lighting of the cauldron. About 20000 people attended from babies to Grannies and everyone of us was subjected to airport style security with body scanners and patdown searches, creating massive queues. We put up with it because, well because you do nowadays and if we didn't you didn't get in.

Then a couple of weeks ago, I went to Royal Ascot for an event attended by no less than The Queen herself. Although every one was dressed up in their finary as at any race meeting tbh, with the exclusion of the top hats and tails (we didn't wear them as we weren't actually in the Royal Enclosure). During the day, I guess at one point we were less than 50 foot from the Queen and many were much closer. On entering the racecourse the security check was would our ticket go through the scanner, no body scanners, no bag searches no pat down searches. In fact there was more security checking people leaving to make sure they weren't nicking 1/2 empty bottle of wine and champagne. And at this event, a fight broke out.

I just find it amazing that just because some people have a little bit of wealth (not me I hasten to add, i just got lucky getting a ticket) that the authorities deem those people to be so low risk they don't need searching and yet the spies of this country and the people who cause the financial woes of this country will have been the people at Ascot, not the ones at the football or trying to see the flame."

never have too much security, and belive me true, you wouldnt have gotten in harms way of The Queen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Far better to have to much security than not enough........

Whilst football has earned a reputation, there is not a lot of trouble these days........Is that because the fans have changed or is it because the hooligans are too intimidated by the massed presence of the fuzz?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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DON'T catch the bus to Preston. "

Correction.

DOnt take the bus FROM Preston.

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By *eavy Metal BallzMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I have been thinking about the different levels of security employed at various events that I have attended recently and wonder just how the authorities decide how to set their different levels of security for different events.

First off, I'm a football fan and on occasion follow my team, Liverpool, to away grounds and last season to Wembley for 2 cup finals and a semi final. At all away games and at the 3 Wembley events, I along with every other Liverpool fan, man, woman or child, were subject to a pat down search including the opening of any bags for Security in the shape of stewards to determine if we were "safe" to enter the ground. The same happens as far as I am aware for any away fan visiting Anfield. While once there was a major hooliganism problem associatted with football, I'd have to say nowadays incidents are few and far between, so why the need for the search. As a home fan just for the record I am never searched.

Then I went to The Pier Head at Liverpool on Day 14 of the Olympic Flames tour of the country to see the lighting of the cauldron. About 20000 people attended from babies to Grannies and everyone of us was subjected to airport style security with body scanners and patdown searches, creating massive queues. We put up with it because, well because you do nowadays and if we didn't you didn't get in.

Then a couple of weeks ago, I went to Royal Ascot for an event attended by no less than The Queen herself. Although every one was dressed up in their finary as at any race meeting tbh, with the exclusion of the top hats and tails (we didn't wear them as we weren't actually in the Royal Enclosure). During the day, I guess at one point we were less than 50 foot from the Queen and many were much closer. On entering the racecourse the security check was would our ticket go through the scanner, no body scanners, no bag searches no pat down searches. In fact there was more security checking people leaving to make sure they weren't nicking 1/2 empty bottle of wine and champagne. And at this event, a fight broke out.

I just find it amazing that just because some people have a little bit of wealth (not me I hasten to add, i just got lucky getting a ticket) that the authorities deem those people to be so low risk they don't need searching and yet the spies of this country and the people who cause the financial woes of this country will have been the people at Ascot, not the ones at the football or trying to see the flame."

Security isn't a dirty word, live with it and embrace it. Better to be safe than sorry.

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland

Believe me as far as the queen is concerned there will be more security than you will know its just that you may never spot who or where they are.

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