FabSwingers.com forum: The Power of Riddicule

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Following a post on another thread...........

Is there any point in having a serious conversation/forum post, when people can jump in and dismiss your argument with a word and then turn to attacking you personaly (is that not trolling?).

Do people take any notice of these attacks?

Should people be allowed to make them?

Should people be less sensitive and 'select' their reading of responses?

Discuss.........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find some of them quite shocking but it serves to tell you something about the antagonists.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Certainly says lots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are always going to get some sad twat I think the current terminology is keyboard warrior, giving it how big I am. At the end of the day people have differing opinions and you may not agree or like what is being said, but just keep in the back of your mind that this is a virtual world where people will say whatever they like cause they know there is very little chance of any comeback. Treat it for what it is.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

I know it's easier said than done, but just ignore them. Some people get off on causing mayhem.

I've noticed a rise in intolerance to the _iews of others. Twice today I've commented on threads only for my profile to be picked on. I wasn't asking people to look at my pics or my interests.

Leave them to show themselves up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are always going to get some sad twat I think the current terminology is keyboard warrior, giving it how big I am. At the end of the day people have differing opinions and you may not agree or like what is being said, but just keep in the back of your mind that this is a virtual world where people will say whatever they like cause they know there is very little chance of any comeback. Treat it for what it is.

yep always keep the salt pot handy.

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By *tensonSwingersCouple
over a year ago

Stenson Fields

"I find some of them quite shocking but it serves to tell you something about the antagonists."

Well we for one are 'outspoken' and 'a little to forceful' in expressing our opinions sometimes (hence 2 forum bans), but we stand by our opinions and never personally attack others who post. We respect their _iews, but its all about wording when replying. We are making a concerted effort to 'tame down' our opinions as there are certain members who will try to provoke others to get them banned or at least get a hostile reaction. Some members belittle others to get additional members to take sides....its life, like being back in a school playground really sometimes.

But, we like posting and some topics are great fun, others serious and intellectual, we recognize we can be a little head-strong but hey, whats the point of having an opinion if your not allowed to express it, albeit without personally attacking other members?

A fine line between heated debate and hurling insults.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they stay within the rules they are allowed to post no matter how many dislike. Why worry just ignore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find some of them quite shocking but it serves to tell you something about the antagonists.

A fine line between heated debate and hurling insults."

a line nevertheless and one which any decent minded people recognise and respect.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

It reaffirms how happy I am being me that I don't do it.

However, I have no control over how someone else interrupts my words, as along I am comfortable with my intent when scripting them.

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By *tensonSwingersCouple
over a year ago

Stenson Fields

"It reaffirms how happy I am being me that I don't do it.

However, I have no control over how someone else interrupts my words, as along I am comfortable with my intent when scripting them."

was that purposeful irony?

"interrupts", instead of interprets?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

& it's always the serial posters who don't concede a single point.

Anyone outside the the clique is turned on.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"It reaffirms how happy I am being me that I don't do it.

However, I have no control over how someone else interrupts my words, as along I am comfortable with my intent when scripting them.

was that purposeful irony?

"interrupts", instead of interprets?

no blooming spellcheck and my selection

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personal attacks don't phase me.

Other than a lucky one or two (or unlucky, if you want to look at it that way), no one on here knows the real me.

They can only attack my postings and their interpretations of me.

Attacking my profile and forum persona is not really the same as attacking me, if that makes sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people do it because they've worked out what it takes to bait other users. Personally, if they try it with me then they've mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck. I do enjoy the political threads though, and there are some forumites who I am diametrically opposed to politically and we banged heads on many occasions before I got to know them (relatively speaking) on the non-political threads, yet I've had ended up having a good laugh with them, which in turn leads to us actually debating on the political threads later rather than 'blah blah blah you're wrong dickhead'.

It's ok to have a different _iew on a given subject but it's not ok to be intolerant of others who have that same right.

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

Nothing wrong with trolling, it is the lifeblood of any forum.

It's just unfortunate most trolls on here are using a very blunt instrument to do their trolling.*

*In case the stupid trolls don't understand. What I mean is you're fucking thick!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personal insults are the debating tools of those who lack the intellect to justify their argument.

That type of person is not attacking you because of your flaws, they are lashing out because of their own insecurities and shortcomings.

Never respond in kind and stay focussed on the debate. When they realise their 'insult card' didn't work, they normally disappear because they rarely have anything else to offer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personal insults are the debating tools of those who lack the intellect to justify their argument.

That type of person is not attacking you because of your flaws, they are lashing out because of their own insecurities and shortcomings.

Never respond in kind and stay focussed on the debate. When they realise their 'insult card' didn't work, they normally disappear because they rarely have anything else to offer. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Epidemic of trolls. They're everywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personal attacks?

I laugh them off. If I find out who they are IRL I'll eat them alive however.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Is there a noun for the type of person that charges others with their own actions ?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Personal insults are the debating tools of those who lack the intellect to justify their argument.

That type of person is not attacking you because of your flaws, they are lashing out because of their own insecurities and shortcomings.

Never respond in kind and stay focussed on the debate. When they realise their 'insult card' didn't work, they normally disappear because they rarely have anything else to offer. "

well worthy of a round of applause and salute

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury

I myself have had some personal attacks for daring to voice my own opinion in these forums from certain members of the clique but i have learnt to just rise above it and bite my lip and with that insult i want to hurl at them but just ignore and carry on putting my point across in the best way i can. These people think they are clever and are eged on by other members but i tend to just leave those threads at that point and leave them to argue amongst themselves

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

For what it is worth there are several comments on this thread that , to me , ARE trolling whilst accusing others of it.

Speaking of cliques, stating opinions as if they are truth and can be substantiated.

Why do people think they are entitled to voice opinions and yet slate anyone else who voices an opinion? Especially if it differs from theirs.

Oh to be a powerless , innocent victim like the nice people.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is there a noun for the type of person that charges others with their own actions ?"
Yeah.......Twats........

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Is there a noun for the type of person that charges others with their own actions ? Yeah.......Twats........"

I was thinking hypocrite George.... but it was a little tame. Twat is too broad an umbrella. Something specific will come to me soon....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is there a noun for the type of person that charges others with their own actions ? Yeah.......Twats........

I was thinking hypocrite George.... but it was a little tame. Twat is too broad an umbrella. Something specific will come to me soon.... "

Well I ought realy furnish that lasst comment whith an admision that we are all guilty of being twats now and again.......Twats are those who would never admit it to themselves or anyone else.........

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

bellshill

Has any one on this thread stopped to think........If they posted a topic and absolutely no one added a comment......who would look like a twat then ???

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Has any one on this thread stopped to think........If they posted a topic and absolutely no one added a comment......who would look like a twat then ???

Uhmmmmmmm the people that didn't post ? Is it them ? Is it ? Is it them ?

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury

"Has any one on this thread stopped to think........If they posted a topic and absolutely no one added a comment......who would look like a twat then ???

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you mean like all the ones asking about blackberry pins and using bbm to chat instead of on site

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Has any one on this thread stopped to think........If they posted a topic and absolutely no one added a comment......who would look like a twat then ???

Yeh thats true but then the lickers who aim to gain a bit of acceptance by yawning, saying not another of this sort of thread or calling the starter a child in the vein hope others like their sarcasm and possibly get them a bit of sympathy gash would get depressed.

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

bellshill

"Has any one on this thread stopped to think........If they posted a topic and absolutely no one added a comment......who would look like a twat then ???

Dohhhh....try unscrambling that for me please.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Might I suggest that if you looked like a Twat it might be time to get some corective surgery?

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

bellshill

"Might I suggest that if you looked like a Twat it might be time to get some corective surgery?"

Oh yeas ..thats a good point....I maybe use the same surgeon as you did.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Might I suggest that if you looked like a Twat it might be time to get some corective surgery?

Oh yeas ..thats a good point....I maybe use the same surgeon as you did."
You think he did a good job? Thanks awfully.......

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Personal attacks don't phase me.

Other than a lucky one or two (or unlucky, if you want to look at it that way), no one on here knows the real me.

They can only attack my postings and their interpretations of me.

Attacking my profile and forum persona is not really the same as attacking me, if that makes sense."
Absolutely agree - and while there is some "reality" to the forum and its posters, it is at the end of the day a site and therefore part of the cyber world.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

Another aspect to this may be, that statistically people will be on here with some form of mental illness either diagnosed or undiagnosed.It doesn't mean madness or psychopathic behaviors ,but depression or loads of different conditions which are temporary and eventually go away either with or without treatment.

Mind gave out the 1 in 4 statistic recently where.1 in 4 people will experience a mental health problem in any given year.

This is the most commonly quoted statistic, and the one which has the most research evidence to support it.

If it is in fact the case and you carry those figures through to swinging and then the site and the forums,it could account for some of the periods where people "don't quite seem themselves".

In fact we may make judgements about people when they are in the middle of such an episode or have joined the forums during a period like this in there lives.

Over the years i have seen loads of aggressive behavior on here from individuals, who then went on to become

valued model posters who contribute lots and are supportive to other members. Maybe we ought to cut people some slack sometimes

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Another aspect to this may be, that statistically people will be on here with some form of mental illness either diagnosed or undiagnosed.It doesn't mean madness or psychopathic behaviors ,but depression or loads of different conditions which are temporary and eventually go away either with or without treatment.

Mind gave out the 1 in 4 statistic recently where.1 in 4 people will experience a mental health problem in any given year.

This is the most commonly quoted statistic, and the one which has the most research evidence to support it.

If it is in fact the case and you carry those figures through to swinging and then the site and the forums,it could account for some of the periods where people "don't quite seem themselves".

In fact we may make judgements about people when they are in the middle of such an episode or have joined the forums during a period like this in there lives.

Over the years i have seen loads of aggressive behavior on here from individuals, who then went on to become

valued model posters who contribute lots and are supportive to other members. Maybe we ought to cut people some slack sometimes

that is fantastic post and reflects part of my journey in swinging.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

It was just a thought _iew ,swingers are not exempt mental illness.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Kin 'ell. A 1 in 4 chance in any given year?

I'm well overdue a turn.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"It was just a thought _iew ,swingers are not exempt mental illness."
Indeed not - the 1 in 4 ratio is liekly to be everywhere, in some areas likely to be higher; there is some research suggesting that in areas of "high emotional content" (the scene???) the figure is much higher as people are drawn to it for a whole host of reasons; most of which not located in the realms of logic and reason. What am I doing on here ?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

well i got enough mental illness for 2/3 of the forum

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"It was just a thought _iew ,swingers are not exempt mental illness.Indeed not - the 1 in 4 ratio is liekly to be everywhere, in some areas likely to be higher; there is some research suggesting that in areas of "high emotional content" (the scene???) the figure is much higher as people are drawn to it for a whole host of reasons; most of which not located in the realms of logic and reason. What am I doing on here ?

looking good

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"well i got enough mental illness for 2/3 of the forum

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Aw... lol.. I am sure you dont...not from what I have seen from your witty posts

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

looking good

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You just answered my question re what I m doing on the forums... chasing nice sexy people like yourself

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

to be honest i think there is a lot of insecure people on here it comes out in threads and they seek approval

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

looking good

You just answered my question re what I m doing on the forums... chasing nice sexy people like yourself

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

Kin 'ell. A 1 in 4 chance in any given year?

I'm well overdue a turn. "

Bugger off, it's my turn......

**sticks pencils up nostrils, dons a pair of pants on head**

Wibble!

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland

"Following a post on another thread...........

Is there any point in having a serious conversation/forum post, when people can jump in and dismiss your argument with a word and then turn to attacking you personaly (is that not trolling?).

Do people take any notice of these attacks?

Should people be allowed to make them?

Should people be less sensitive and 'select' their reading of responses?

Discuss........."

Can you enlighten us to this post as I would realy love to see what this personal attack is all about.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"to be honest i think there is a lot of insecure people on here it comes out in threads and they seek approval"
So, if this is the case - what should other posters do? Put them in their place? Go with the flow? Try and boost their self esteem?

I'm curious - personally I would not ever deliberately make anybody feel bad or small, just not in my nature.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's always better to do something constructive, than something destructive. After all it takes forever to make something, and seconds to wreck it. You can apply that to whatever you like in this world.

Wolf

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"I think it's always better to do something constructive, than something destructive. After all it takes forever to make something, and seconds to wreck it. You can apply that to whatever you like in this world.

Wolf

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"to be honest i think there is a lot of insecure people on here it comes out in threads and they seek approvalSo, if this is the case - what should other posters do? Put them in their place? Go with the flow? Try and boost their self esteem?

I'm curious - personally I would not ever deliberately make anybody feel bad or small, just not in my nature. "
why should we build someones confidence if they are spiteful. ive spoken to many in pm who have genuine issues that have never felt the need to be spiteful or attention seek

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good point

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

I'm curious - personally I would not ever deliberately make anybody feel bad or small, just not in my nature. why should we build someones confidence if they are spiteful. ive spoken to many in pm who have genuine issues that have never felt the need to be spiteful or attention seek"
I was assuming just insecurity, not spite - in case of the latter I would not propose to pay attention to attention seekering behaviour. I menat really if I sense somebody feels a little insecure about something, I would be inclined to be benevolent. Thats all

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