FabSwingers.com forum: Question for the single guys . . .

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

This is a genuine question and not meant as a dig cos I love single guys.

If you contact someone and they say you would find a couple of topics here on the forums helpful and point you in the direction of the threads by View and Mr O would you think they were taking the micky??

I have had messages from guys who have been on the site for over 6 months (and not verified) with either one liner profiles or one word profiles so I said to look at the threads and some are ok with that and do make changes (and I would think then get better replies from messages sent) but others tell me not to be so up myself, apparently Im not that great anyway lol and other such niceties!!

I am genuinely trying to help people because one liner profiles really don’t seem to be getting them very far and maybe if they took the advice of both View and Mr O they might get on better as both the guys seem to be doing ok so the comments they made cant be that far from the truth now can they??

PLEASE PLEASE don’t turn this into a have a go at single men cos Honeypot and Rugby will slap me and I really don’t like that!!

Shona

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im certainly no authority on this but , my 2ps worth.

When i first started on this site as a solo male, i was directed to the forums straight away, by a lady i now class as a friend.The posts by view and others were very, very helpful, but i believe its more a case of the person reading his post, and taking some or all of it on board.

If you are willing as a solo male to be a bit humble, and not let the testosterone get the better of you and dont believe you know it all, you will well be on the way to having a fantastic time on this site.

Recently, i had a new guy use the first cpl of lines of my profile, and thought "cheeky bugger"!!, but in hindsight, that was stupid of me, as i spose i did much the same with other profiles of guys who seemed popular, granted, i changed the wording and made it my own,but really no difference.

shona, you are one of the many ladies on here who seem to want to help solo guys make friends, if they choose not to take a little bit of advice, thats not your fault .x

On a footnote, if any guys reading this, try the chat rooms, and imagine your in a bar or club, but you cant se the person, and flirt and make NORMAL conversation, see where it gets you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i never msg one liners, however i have been known to fall for a few about two in the mornin tho i do draw the line at .. get ur coat bla bla youve pulled lol. no seriously you rarely pull on a night out with a one liner so i cant understand men thinking it will work on here. cmon lads not many of us have ever got laid using lines like... fancy a fuck etc. more like laid out off some of the girls ive met lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In fairness, sometimes I don't know why I bother writing tailored letters when they don't even bother to reply. I don't do 1 liners. I read the profile carfully and still not even the courtsey of a no thanks. If there is no interest in me then please tell me. Good manners cost nothing and folks who say they get hundreds of mails each day - franky I have doubts.

Perhaps some might take a peak at my profile and any tips would be of use - or is it my age that puts folks off|?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i only meet single guys so im deffo not having a pop at them

I put in my profile.....you wouldnt go upto a women in a pub and call her a slut or a whore and ask her for a fuck so please dont do it to me.....i guess what i mean by that is treat me like you'd treat any women you wanted to chat up in the 'real world' if you see a lady in a pub you talk to her with respect other wise your going to get a drink in your face, its just basic simple manners, women on here are still women, im not a slut im just a woman with a high sex drive thats looking for fun, so when you message me, or any women on here, treat us as such

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is a genuine question and not meant as a dig cos I love single guys.

PLEASE PLEASE don’t turn this into a have a go at single men cos Honeypot and Rugby will slap me and I really don’t like that!!

Shona

x x x "

Just block them. If they are unwilling to adapt and accept this is not a night club or brothel then it is their loss

infact you may find the majority of them probably don't even succeed in night clubs hence their appearance here!

"In fairness, sometimes I don't know why I bother writing tailored letters when they don't even bother to reply. I don't do 1 liners. I read the profile carfully and still not even the courtsey of a no thanks. If there is no interest in me then please tell me. Good manners cost nothing and folks who say they get hundreds of mails each day - franky I have doubts.

Perhaps some might take a peak at my profile and any tips would be of use - or is it my age that puts folks off|?"

Have faith sir. I know, oh to well, the feeling of writing proper mails and them being deleted

so you are not alone. I would recommend you make a start by networking, attend your local clubs but primarily for the socialising and the rest will start to flow naturally. If you feel your age is a turn off I suggest you check out the profiles of 'oldgit' and 'VIEW'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they can't even be bothered to take the simple step of looking a forum post, especially when they've been pointed to it, then they aren't worth meeting, and the community as a whole is better off as the one liners are a good warning sign.

Personally the first thing I did when I joined the site was read other profiles and the forums. The whole scene was totally new to me, but I was sensible enough to realise there'd be certain do's and don'ts.

Any advice is still welcome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Those peeps believe they are god gift's to women kind, probably can't pull in real life and certainly won't have much success on here or other "adult" sites! IMHO of course!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thank you all for your replies.

I didn’t mean one liner messages some guys do put a lot of thought into messages but when you go to read their profile what do you find?? A one liner profile!!

I have replied to many guys since starting on here (always me very rarely hubby) and since seeing Views thread I started saying something along the lines of “I know you are new so I will give you a piece of advice have a look at the threads by Mr O and View” with the name of the topics and where they can be found and bumped them as well, just to help people see them and read them.

I too was once new and did as many have said I looked at other peoples profiles and “stole” little bits I thought were how I wanted to sound now though we have tailored our profile to be exactly what we need it to be hopefully without sounding arrogant and up myself and I still check every now and again to make sure it is still up to date and relevant.

Many people do not use the forums even after being members for years and say whats the point - well to them I say it can help you make friends and have fun with them even if it does mean you don’t meet them, its not all about get your pants off you’ve pulled!!!

I think in a few cases Mr O hun you may be right some do see it as a fast way to get laid and put no effort at all into their messages or profile. I have seen people (not just guys) with profiles along the lines of what you waiting for Im the best you will ever see/ can have. Well tbh no you aint as guys have said think of this place like any other place you would meet people and treat them as you want to be treated and that’s probably the best advice to anyone at the start I can think of as I have seen View say many times you only get what you put in so make the effort and you will reap the rewards.

Hopefully View wont bitch slap me for stealing his lines!!

Shona

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i only meet single guys so im deffo not having a pop at them

Couldn't agree with you more Honey. I may be on here looking for some sexy fun, but that doesn't make me a slapper or any other such yucky name.

I'm a woman first and any woman is going to respond to a good conversation, with some lovely compliments and a lot of flirting.

I can natter for hours on MSN or the phone but at least that way by the time you meet someone you know you are going to 'click' and sex with someone you have that connection with is sooooooooooooo much better............... xx

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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Why help them change? Or more to the point and worse still... why help them put on a front and pretend to be something they are not?

I like it when guys have one line profiles and send a message saying "fancy a shag".... it makes it easy for me to spot they are a twat!

I don't want the 'easy shag hunters' (who think because you are on a swinging site you will fuck anything with a pulse and swoon at the sight of a cock shot) to be guided how to sound like they have the right attitude.

I don't want the tourists and twats to have even the brifest of chances to mislead me into thinking they just might "get it" ... I want to spot them a mile off at first contact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why help them change? Or more to the point and worse still... why help them put on a front and pretend to be something they are not?

I like it when guys have one line profiles and send a message saying "fancy a shag".... it makes it easy for me to spot they are a twat!

I don't want the tourists and twats to have even the brifest of chances to mislead me into thinking they just might "get it" ... I want to spot them a mile off at first contact."

I hadn't thought of it like that, excellent point xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why help them change? Or more to the point and worse still... why help them put on a front and pretend to be something they are not?

I like it when guys have one line profiles and send a message saying "fancy a shag".... it makes it easy for me to spot they are a twat!

I don't want the tourists and twats to have even the brifest of chances to mislead me into thinking they just might "get it" ... I want to spot them a mile off at first contact."

We were all new to this site at some point and maybe these people need a little guidance in this lifestyle. Surely you can spot the twats (hate this word by the way) by speaking for longer than 2 min in the types of emails they send. We feel that there have been some success in this area .

Post’s like your will not help in any way it will only confirm their suspicions that there is no point in making any effort. And for your information some people like the cock shot yes not all but some. My wife for one.

Guys sometime have to be shown the way my other half can vouch for that lol. But surely they deserve the chance to earn some respect which is not what they are used to on here.

Steven

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

"Why help them change? Or more to the point and worse still... why help them put on a front and pretend to be something they are not?

I like it when guys have one line profiles and send a message saying "fancy a shag".... it makes it easy for me to spot they are a twat!

I don't want the tourists and twats to have even the brifest of chances to mislead me into thinking they just might "get it" ... I want to spot them a mile off at first contact."

I think Polo has a very valid point.

Darwin said it was "Survival of the fittest", in other words its natural selection.

The guys that write their "one liners" are immediately flagging up their true nature, and should be left to their own devices.

Those that research the site, and then put together a well written profile have at least made the effort, and deserve a chance.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why help them change? Or more to the point and worse still... why help them put on a front and pretend to be something they are not?

I like it when guys have one line profiles and send a message saying "fancy a shag".... it makes it easy for me to spot they are a twat!

I don't want the tourists and twats to have even the brifest of chances to mislead me into thinking they just might "get it" ... I want to spot them a mile off at first contact.

I think Polo has a very valid point.

Darwin said it was "Survival of the fittest", in other words its natural selection.

The guys that write their "one liners" are immediately flagging up their true nature, and should be left to their own devices.

Those that research the site, and then put together a well written profile have at least made the effort, and deserve a chance."

May I ask a question then. If a person has only been on the site for a few days mails you having not read the forums or been in the chatroom.

Should they be feed to the wolves and left too it as it is survival of the fittest? Or should we try to give the benefit of our experience?

They maybe lovely people who have no idea of the rules or etiquette that is expected on here.

Steven

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why help them change? Or more to the point and worse still... why help them put on a front and pretend to be something they are not?

I like it when guys have one line profiles and send a message saying "fancy a shag".... it makes it easy for me to spot they are a twat!

I don't want the tourists and twats to have even the brifest of chances to mislead me into thinking they just might "get it" ... I want to spot them a mile off at first contact.

I think Polo has a very valid point.

Darwin said it was "Survival of the fittest", in other words its natural selection.

The guys that write their "one liners" are immediately flagging up their true nature, and should be left to their own devices.

Those that research the site, and then put together a well written profile have at least made the effort, and deserve a chance.

May I ask a question then. If a person has only been on the site for a few days mails you having not read the forums or been in the chatroom.

Should they be feed to the wolves and left too it as it is survival of the fittest? Or should we try to give the benefit of our experience?

They maybe lovely people who have no idea of the rules or etiquette that is expected on here.

Steven"

Very true, I suppose if they are pointed towards help and advice and take it it shows they are just innocent of the etiquette etc and willing to learn. Therefore nice guys just naive

If on the other hand they are the 'twats' they first appear to be then they will be too pig headed to take the help and advice offered and will carry on being what they truely are.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why help them change? Or more to the point and worse still... why help them put on a front and pretend to be something they are not?

I like it when guys have one line profiles and send a message saying "fancy a shag".... it makes it easy for me to spot they are a twat!

I don't want the tourists and twats to have even the brifest of chances to mislead me into thinking they just might "get it" ... I want to spot them a mile off at first contact.

I think Polo has a very valid point.

Darwin said it was "Survival of the fittest", in other words its natural selection.

The guys that write their "one liners" are immediately flagging up their true nature, and should be left to their own devices.

Those that research the site, and then put together a well written profile have at least made the effort, and deserve a chance.

May I ask a question then. If a person has only been on the site for a few days mails you having not read the forums or been in the chatroom.

Should they be feed to the wolves and left too it as it is survival of the fittest? Or should we try to give the benefit of our experience?

They maybe lovely people who have no idea of the rules or etiquette that is expected on here.

Steven

Very true, I suppose if they are pointed towards help and advice and take it it shows they are just innocent of the etiquette etc and willing to learn. Therefore nice guys just naive

If on the other hand they are the 'twats' they first appear to be then they will be too pig headed to take the help and advice offered and will carry on being what they truely are.

xx"

That is why the wife always trys to point them in the direction of the topics by Mr O and View.

If however they come back saying dont be so up yourself you know they are a lost cause but there are some genuine gents out there that need to know what people on here want.

Steven

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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Guys sometime have to be shown the way my other half can vouch for that lol. But surely they deserve the chance to earn some respect which is not what they are used to on here.

Steven"

Yes we were all new once… but not all of us thought joining a swinging site meant we could drop common courtesy.

If a person (male or female) can’t work it out for themselves that “fancy a shag - I bet you’re a right slut” keeps getting deleted and may be they should change their tact… then they are not worth helping (imho) as it is a clear indication they feel it should work… which say what about their opinion of this site and the people on it?

Why should I have to speak for even one minute to someone who is a twat? If nobody has helped them camouflage their profile and first message into something half decent I shouldn’t have to waste my time with any messaging.

Posts like mine? If they already feel there is no point making an “effort” and can’t work out that not taking the time to explain what they are looking for, why they are here and talking to people like normal human beings… then I am glad it’s not helping them.

BTW – I don’t think people should make an “effort” as such. I don’t expect people to jump through hoops. I don’t expect them to do anything ‘extra’ which they wouldn’t do naturally in normal day to day life: in conversations with people they come into contact with way from the scene. I do expect that they don’t drop those behaviours just because the site they are talking to someone on just happens to be a swinging site.

If your missus likes cock shots … good for her. Personally I don’t appreciate being sent a close-up picture of a penis accompanied with the line “fancy a meet”… it implies all I need to see to want to have sex is a cock, regardless of who the cock is attached to. If you are happy for people to think that of your missus then that’s your call, I prefer a little more respect.

To gain respect you have to first give it!

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

"Why help them change? Or more to the point and worse still... why help them put on a front and pretend to be something they are not?

I like it when guys have one line profiles and send a message saying "fancy a shag".... it makes it easy for me to spot they are a twat!

I don't want the tourists and twats to have even the brifest of chances to mislead me into thinking they just might "get it" ... I want to spot them a mile off at first contact.

I think Polo has a very valid point.

Darwin said it was "Survival of the fittest", in other words its natural selection.

The guys that write their "one liners" are immediately flagging up their true nature, and should be left to their own devices.

Those that research the site, and then put together a well written profile have at least made the effort, and deserve a chance.

May I ask a question then. If a person has only been on the site for a few days mails you having not read the forums or been in the chatroom.

Should they be feed to the wolves and left too it as it is survival of the fittest? Or should we try to give the benefit of our experience?

They maybe lovely people who have no idea of the rules or etiquette that is expected on here.

Steven"

Another valid point.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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May I ask a question then. If a person has only been on the site for a few days mails you having not read the forums or been in the chatroom.

Should they be feed to the wolves and left too it as it is survival of the fittest? Or should we try to give the benefit of our experience?

They maybe lovely people who have no idea of the rules or etiquette that is expected on here.

Steven"

Very nice people usually come across as very nice people... they don't suddenly regress into Neanderthals.

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By *umpingJackFlashMan
over a year ago

Somewhere near you?

Just read HAIR.TUGGING.BUM.SLAPPER's post and looked at his profile and thought "Hell I wish my profile was that witty!"

Darn, beaten to it again!

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

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Very nice people usually come across as very nice people... they don't suddenly regress into Neanderthals. "

Yes, but you won't turn a caveman into a gentleman by asking him to read a few paragraphs on the internet.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Think of it this way... by helping the not so nice blend in, you are making it harder for the nice guys to stand out!

I'm sure the nice guys who are on to a good thing will be thanking you later

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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...........

Very nice people usually come across as very nice people... they don't suddenly regress into Neanderthals.

Yes, but you won't turn a caveman into a gentleman by asking him to read a few paragraphs on the internet."

Even chimps learn to imitate.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

...........

Very nice people usually come across as very nice people... they don't suddenly regress into Neanderthals.

Yes, but you won't turn a caveman into a gentleman by asking him to read a few paragraphs on the internet.

Even chimps learn to imitate."

Ook?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think of it this way... by helping the not so nice blend in, you are making it harder for the nice guys to stand out!

I'm sure the nice guys who are on to a good thing will be thanking you later

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I'll just have to rely on my wit, charm and good looks to see of through.

damn, i'll get my coat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We rarely comment on these type of threads because we dont meet singles, however as we have seen the threads from both points of view ( single guys saying "why dont they reply", others saying " why dont single guys write better messages/profiles") We kinda thought that maybe a "probation" period might work, there are already restrictions on what new users are allowed to do ( no posts on forums until---- etc).

Might it be possible to restrict the number of messages a new user can send until a time has passed, this will give two benefits, hopefully the "send a million short messages hoping for even a 1% reply rate" will be cancelled out, as if you only have a limited amount of messages to send why "waste" a potential message on someone who you know you are not likely to have anything in common with ( forces you to read profiles so that you know you are not just wasting everyones time).

If you hope to get say 20 replies per week, and you have sent 1000 "copy/paste" type general messages to anyone you see then U might get ones who reply ( geography,being local,having a pic they like etc) this might get you the 2% reply, but you will likely to have annoyed the 98% you didnt get to reply.

If you were only allowed say 10 messages a day at first, then you would need to try to qualify and prioritise the ones most likely to achieve success to hope to get to the reply rate you would like, this will force you into thinking more and trying harder but we think the quality of the reply is likely to be much higher.

If Emails cost 10 pence to send would folks send out 1000,s at random????? so given the fact they are free why dont we place more value on them??

If you are genuinely looking to do something fun and exciting in your lives isnt it worth putting at least the minimum effort into it??

Free doesnt mean valueless.

Anyway enough rambling, hope you all have fun regardless, thats WHY we are all here!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Guys sometime have to be shown the way my other half can vouch for that lol. But surely they deserve the chance to earn some respect which is not what they are used to on here.

Steven

Yes we were all new once… but not all of us thought joining a swinging site meant we could drop common courtesy.

To gain respect you have to first give it!

Do all males start with “fancy a shag “ no some just start with would you like to talk maybe you have had some bad experiences with men and that’s why you always have such a bad slant on newbies?? Is your profile the same now as the day you started I would say not but then you didn’t need help with that did you ??

How are these men supposed to know what to put into a profile or how to make them sound good oh yes sorry they are supposed to be mind readers didn’t realise. It’s not about extra because we have met men from here we have helped and they are as honest and nice a person you would ever want to meet so what if we helped with their profile their personality shines through without the profile. And if you had read our profile you would see we don’t meet anyone who sends one liner messages.

My wife is and always has been in control of who we meet. They must pass her screening before we even meet for a coffee. And as you don’t like cock shot I take it you don’t ever perve their pics of course not.

My wife only meets people who do show respect .

I am not saying that there isn’t Neanderthals on this site BUT there are some men who don’t give the usual do you want a fuck message but a one liner message never the less that we feel are worth taking a chance on . The do you want a fuck brigade just get deleted and never thought of again but there are other we will take the time to respond by pointing them in the direction of the forums mentioned in this thread.

Steven

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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" Do all males start with “fancy a shag “ no some just start with would you like to talk maybe you have had some bad experiences with men and that’s why you always have such a bad slant on newbies?? "

Did I say all do? I think not, you are jumping to conclusions rather than reading what is there on the page.

You state as a fact that I have had bad experiences with men – would you care you explain what makes you feel qualified to make such a personal statement?

You state I always have a bad slant on newbies – again, would you care to justify this statement? I have a bad slant on anyone who has the attitude of minimum exertion void of manners is all it should take… man, woman, couple, newbie or not. The length of membership has nothing to do with it.

Is your profile the same now as the day you started I would say not but then you didn’t need help with that did you ?? "

It’s pretty much the same now as on day one of joining. But it’s not the same as my first profile on my first site over 6 years ago, mainly because I have changed. No one helped me change my profile though, I worked out what I wanted and what I wanted to say to people.

Then how do you know what they should put to sound good… or do you mean so they sound good to you? Seeing as you like to make plenty of assumptions about what I like and don’t like and what I do and don’t do… may be I should assume you mean you like to help mould the guys you (your missus) likes the look of into the ideal man in type too?

I have no problems helping people who genuinely want to make it work because they have a conducive attitude to respectful behaviour… but those people are never really far off the mark in the first place are they… or why would you be corresponding?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well razzle im at my wits end hun, im always polite to women decent advice ive been given ovr the few years ive been swinging but the last msg i posted was more of a personal compliment about a certain lady, saying also how charming and lovely she can be to which she replied simply.... you should of just asked me for a shag lolol she can be a naughty little nympho at times lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'll just have to rely on my wit, charm and good looks to see of through.

damn, i'll get my coat

Don't forget your conversational abilities lol xx

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

A couple of years a go i had a guy sending me messages on another site. He was new to the scene, thought he could get an easy lay and had an attitude. I told him to come back when he had realized how women wanted to be spoken to and to drop the attitude.

I forgot all about this guy until about 18 months later when i got a message from him on here. He thanked me for pointing out the error of his ways, explained that cause he was new he had gone in all systems go and then realized that wasnt the right appproach.

Although i never met him, his profile had been written really well, he had some good verifications on it and we passed some very decent messages. So i think some guys can learn by there mistakes

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"A couple of years a go i had a guy sending me messages on another site. He was new to the scene, thought he could get an easy lay and had an attitude. I told him to come back when he had realized how women wanted to be spoken to and to drop the attitude.

Although i never met him, his profile had been written really well, he had some good verifications on it and we passed some very decent messages. So i think some guys can learn by there mistakes"

Indeed, the good ones will usually work it out for themselves without being mindreaders or being shown a blueprint for success... they just need some time to reflect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends on the person if they thought you were taking the mickey out of them or were trying to be helpful.

This topic does spring up quite often in the forums and it always seems to be directed at single guys when really i think it shoud be directed at everyone. Maybe the 'advice guide' would help some guys if they want to adhere to one persons views of what should be done but if everyone was the same what a boring place we would live in.

I think it's always best to do what the individual thinks is right and if that is to write a one line profile then so be it. If they don't get any meets they will change it until they hit the right formula for them. I have seen some guys profiles with one line who have a list of verifications as long as your arm, while some indepth profiles have no verifications at all.

And there is the question of all those couples and single ladies one line profiles. Where's the thread advising them to have more than a one line profile? It seems to me that because single women and couples are more sought over and will always have people chasing after them some don't bother making an effort themselves but expect the guys to do so. One profile description i saw just had 'i can't be bothered to write anything', they had no picture but still had a lot of verifications - how many guys would have the same amount of luck with a profile like that?

And the one liner messages also go both ways as couples and single women do the exact same thing! But how many threads has there been saying people are fed up with couples and single women sending one line messages, winks, or having a virtually blank, one liner profiles?

I know the thread is not having a go at single guys but ffs isn't it about time the single guy wasn't always the centre of these type of threads when everyone should be included. Couples and single women are often just as bad and lazy so maybe the 'advice thread' should be directed at all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Did I say all do? I think not, you are jumping to conclusions rather than reading what is there on the page.

I think that was a question was it not?

You state as a fact that I have had bad experiences with men – would you care you explain what makes you feel qualified to make such a personal statement?

I think not, you are jumping to conclusions rather than reading what is there on the page. Did i not say MAYBE you had.

I am not saying void of manners did i Have i not already pointed out one liners without the lets screw brigade?

So from the off the first day you join your profile has to be perfect? Length of membership does have something to do with it.

Is your profile the same now as the day you started I would say not but then you didn’t need help with that did you ??

Yes but did you know eactly what you wanted to say from day one no why because you compare it to others and improve where possible. People need time to improve their profiles as you have over the last year i am sure maybe not a lot but some.

Not just good to anyone but enable them to improve it themselves by pointing out for example they need to explain what they are looking for more body than cock shot ect ect.

We have never and will never mould anyone or anything as each person is a individual and need to make their profile specific to themselves.

A good attitude will only get you so far on here a good profile also helps. You can be the nicest person in the world but one liner messages and and bad profile will sink you without a trace as there are so many males to choose from.

Steven

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Did I say all do? I think not, you are jumping to conclusions rather than reading what is there on the page.

I think that was a question was it not?

You state as a fact that I have had bad experiences with men – would you care you explain what makes you feel qualified to make such a personal statement?

I think not, you are jumping to conclusions rather than reading what is there on the page. Did i not say MAYBE you had.

I am not saying void of manners did i Have i not already pointed out one liners without the lets screw brigade?

So from the off the first day you join your profile has to be perfect? Length of membership does have something to do with it.

Is your profile the same now as the day you started I would say not but then you didn’t need help with that did you ??

Not just good to anyone but enable them to improve it themselves by pointing out for example they need to explain what they are looking for more body than cock shot ect ect.

We have never and will never mould anyone or anything as each person is a individual and need to make their profile specific to themselves.

Steven"

So why not check who has a good attitude before offering help and possibly telling a twat how to blag it?

PS: are you avoiding answering the questions about the personal comments?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Dimondsmiles your post was exactly what I meant when I started this tread I have done exactly what you did for this gent myself many times.

Gothica yes you are right this was never meant to a get at guys thread and I will continue to meet guys cos I personally get better messages and replies from them than I ever have from couples and women.

I didn’t realise this had already been covered.

I was just looking for an overview from guys about my original post that was the only reason I started this tread, I have never knowingly had a dig at men cos I love them and was only trying to help by pointing them towards something I hoped would help them a small bit and maybe they would see how other guys get replies and meets when they don’t.

But I do ask Honeypot or Rugby to close this as this has turned into and argument between my hubby and Polo when I never meant it to be anything of the sort.

Shona

x x x

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Your hubby may well be arguing (I’ll take your word for it as you obviously know him), I am debating and asking for a few personal comments he saw fit to post to be justified.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Your hubby may well be arguing (I’ll take your word for it as you obviously know him), I am debating and asking for a few personal comments he saw fit to post to be justified."

PLEASE PLEASE don’t turn this into a have a go at single men

WAS THIS not in the opening post?

So what have you taken offence too?

Did i use the word maybe?

And the fact I have seen you post on another site also having a go at single males.

Sensible half away for the moment.

Steven

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"Your hubby may well be arguing (I’ll take your word for it as you obviously know him), I am debating and asking for a few personal comments he saw fit to post to be justified.

PLEASE PLEASE don’t turn this into a have a go at single men

WAS THIS not in the opening post?

So what have you taken offence too?

Did i use the word maybe?

And the fact I have seen you post on another site also having a go at single males.

Sensible half away for the moment.

Steven"

If you have a look back at some of my posts on the forums on this very site you will indeed find I have often defended single guys as not being the sole offenders of bad manners and as per my posts in this thread I have indeed posted "people" rather than just single guys... so I am not sure where this post is coming from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I for one would appreciate any advice at all. I consider myself to be a decent enough, friendly and non pushy chap but there seems to be an assumption that all single guys are axe weilding stalkers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn’t realise this had already been covered.

Shona

x x x "

I do understand what your post was about Shona and it was a good, genuine question that was your right to post. My answer to it was i don't think the advice thread is needed BUT it maybe helpful to some. Some guys don't like having to basically copy someone else's ideas of how to be and act while some will. Personally i think people should be themselves and find their own way.

I do think there are double standards on here as the single guys are always targeted for things they do or don't do, while couples and single women can and often do the exact same things but no one says anything about it at all. And if they do it's all laughs and light hearted banter, while the same types of posts about single guys are quite the opposite.

Any thread about single guys has probably been done multiple times, week in and week out so rarely does a truely original thread appear. But thats the nature of the forums i guess.

Personally it's getting to the stage where i'm seriously thinkinging of not bothering to come onto the forums anymore as i have had my fill of logging onto the forums and seeing so much negativity and crap thrown at the guys on a daily basis, and any enjoyment i hoped to get from being an active forum member goes away. I doubt if anyone would care either way as i'm just a single guy and the lowest of the low it seems!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

any guys i've directed to the single guy thread have all thanked me

then again if any gave me grief i'd tell em to shove their cock in a vice, cuz it be the best offer they' got lol

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over a year ago

"any guys i've directed to the single guy thread have all thanked me

then again if any gave me grief i'd tell em to shove their cock in a vice, cuz it be the best offer they' got lol"

Talking of shoving cocks in places they shouldn't go - I had an offer to watch a guy give himself a*** with his own cock !!!!!! Didn't have the guts to say oh go on then lol................

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"any guys i've directed to the single guy thread have all thanked me

then again if any gave me grief i'd tell em to shove their cock in a vice, cuz it be the best offer they' got lol"

Any genuine self respecting guy wouldn't need a guide, proper manners, consideration and a little respect will help you through most things, saying that it's always good to listen to advice from the experienced.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

I didn’t realise this had already been covered.

Shona

x x x

Any thread about single guys has probably been done multiple times, week in and week out so rarely does a truely original thread appear. But thats the nature of the forums i guess.

It would be a shame if you went as you usually write an interesting post - i tend now to ignore the very intense threads unless it's being discussed in a proper fashion as they do tend to disintegrate into slanging matches sometimes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"any guys i've directed to the single guy thread have all thanked me

then again if any gave me grief i'd tell em to shove their cock in a vice, cuz it be the best offer they' got lol

Talking of shoving cocks in places they shouldn't go - I had an offer to watch a guy give himself a*** with his own cock !!!!!! Didn't have the guts to say oh go on then lol................

that reminds me, ...a guy messaged me a few month back , said wud i like to watch him shove a cucmber up his ass,

so i said go on then, ( i had a friend here and we was bored lol)

all he asked for was a pic of me in stockings, so i obliged , i used a spare msn account , he turned his cam on and ,,,,, well u can guess the rest, me and my mate just sat here laughing our heads off,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OI gothica, u aint going no where , !!!!!!

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

being a singleton myself, i welcome any advice i can get, as it's often very helpfull, genuine and often very accurate too, so please keep bringing on the advice for the single guy, it's always helpfull, and like many say we were all single's once upon a time, and for some theres always a chance we will be once more

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

"being a singleton myself, i welcome any advice i can get, as it's often very helpfull, genuine and often very accurate too, so please keep bringing on the advice for the single guy, it's always helpfull, and like many say we were all single's once upon a time, and for some theres always a chance we will be once more "

Hi m8, Zoe mentioned a bike meet? We'll drop in next week if thats ok? Can you let us know where it is? Cheers

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

Hi m8, Zoe mentioned a bike meet? We'll drop in next week if thats ok? Can you let us know where it is? Cheers"

i'd PM you but i can't as i'm not on your list of guys you'd allow to contact you, but it's the cricketers arms in shaw if you need more details mail me and i'll willingly give you them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Heres a single ladies profile i have recently seen....and people say single guys need to learn how to write a good profile!

The profile reads:

bbbbbbbbbbbb

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah, forgot the full stop after the 8th b.

Common mistake

;)

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Heres a single ladies profile i have recently seen....and people say single guys need to learn how to write a good profile!

The profile reads:

bbbbbbbbbbbb

not my fault I have a stammer...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was going to add another i'd seen but as it contained nothing at all it was kinda hard to do!

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

I doubt if anyone would care either way as i'm just a single guy and the lowest of the low it seems! "

and just how low can you get btw??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I doubt if anyone would care either way as i'm just a single guy and the lowest of the low it seems!

and just how low can you get btw??

Oooh i say....naughty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I've sugggsted stuff about profiles, the single guys have always appreciated it up to now (waiting for the first F* off!)

As for pinching bits from profiles, I take it as a compliment when people say they like mine and are going to pinch bits!

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

I doubt if anyone would care either way as i'm just a single guy and the lowest of the low it seems!

and just how low can you get btw??

Oooh i say....naughty

The punchline is 'Would you believe a jack russell'

but 'naughty' would be just fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If anyone wants to drop me a note with a critique of mine, it would be very welcome.

Constructive critisism is always a good thing!

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

"When I've sugggsted stuff about profiles, the single guys have always appreciated it up to now (waiting for the first F* off!)

As for pinching bits from profiles, I take it as a compliment when people say they like mine and are going to pinch bits!

can i please pinch your bits (gently though i promise lol )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

shone lol lol yu cool ......

no slaps fae me lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oh, go on then....

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

I doubt if anyone would care either way as i'm just a single guy and the lowest of the low it seems!

and just how low can you get btw??

a snake in the grass ( i said GRASS) lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When I've sugggsted stuff about profiles, the single guys have always appreciated it up to now (waiting for the first F* off!)

As for pinching bits from profiles, I take it as a compliment when people say they like mine and are going to pinch bits!

I have nothing at all against people wanting advice or trying to make their profiles better. That makes for a better, friendlier site and community!

What i don't like are threads moaning about single guys sending one liner emails, or having a one liner profile when there are absolutely loads of couples and single women with one liner profiles and who send one liner emails or winks themselves!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I doubt if anyone would care either way as i'm just a single guy and the lowest of the low it seems!

and just how low can you get btw??

Oooh i say....naughty

The punchline is 'Would you believe a jack russell'

but 'naughty' would be just fine

Hey gimme a break - i haven't heard that expression lol

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Hey gimme a break - i haven't heard that expression lol"

Forgiven.

See, some of us can be nice to single guys...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey gimme a break - i haven't heard that expression lol

Forgiven.

See, some of us can be nice to single guys...

And a big old kiss for doing just that

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

anyone got a spare fag, i'm into day 10 and i'm climbing the walls ( no i don't mean it lol ) but i am climbing the walls

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

And a big old kiss for doing just that"

ooooo I likes kisses...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"anyone got a spare fag, i'm into day 10 and i'm climbing the walls ( no i don't mean it lol ) but i am climbing the walls

Odd comment for this thread but i know what you mean. May i suggest a trip to the shops!

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

"anyone got a spare fag, i'm into day 10 and i'm climbing the walls ( no i don't mean it lol ) but i am climbing the walls

Odd comment for this thread but i know what you mean. May i suggest a trip to the shops!"

no no no you may not lol i'm on a anti-smoke routine and i'm into day 10, but it's geeting to the point where i might just kill someone for one lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"anyone got a spare fag, i'm into day 10 and i'm climbing the walls ( no i don't mean it lol ) but i am climbing the walls

Well done you, keep up the excellent work xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Keep it up Touvak, you,ve done really well up to now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"anyone got a spare fag, i'm into day 10 and i'm climbing the walls ( no i don't mean it lol ) but i am climbing the walls

Odd comment for this thread but i know what you mean. May i suggest a trip to the shops!

no no no you may not lol i'm on a anti-smoke routine and i'm into day 10, but it's geeting to the point where i might just kill someone for one lol

I'll give you two fags if you sort out someone i don't like then. Wow a hitman who gets paid in cigarettes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like anything else in life, you can never please everyone, and some people just don’t like being given advice without asking for it first.

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

"Keep it up Touvak, you,ve done really well up to now

i did have one tiny slip on day 4 and had 2 smokes and coughed me heart up each time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this puts to bed once and for all that it's the single guys who are the ones with crap one liner profiles and who are the ones who cheat.

I just took a look at the first ten new womens profiles; nine are one liner profiles, or have two very short sentences that may as well be one. And two (including the one with a longer profile) are people cheating on their husbands!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think this puts to bed once and for all that it's the single guys who are the ones with crap one liner profiles and who are the ones who cheat.

Not sure mewbies can be judged so much really, some may join to check the place out before deciding to stay, besides how many of those new single women are actually women?.

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

"I think this puts to bed once and for all that it's the single guys who are the ones with crap one liner profiles and who are the ones who cheat.

ive seen many nrw womens profile's with just one word lol HI

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over a year ago

"I think this puts to bed once and for all that it's the single guys who are the ones with crap one liner profiles and who are the ones who cheat.

Not sure mewbies can be judged so much really, some may join to check the place out before deciding to stay, besides how many of those new single women are actually women?.

But how many times have people had a go at single guy newbies and mocked their profiles for being short one liners, or for being unfaithful. We can't have a rule for one and a rule for another. And we can't keep turning things around by inferring the women with dodgy profiles are just men...women can be just as bad...no really they can!

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By *afthalfMan
over a year ago

Near you x

Think there will always be the single guys who think because this is a swinging site then we obviously must just throw it about to all and sundry without a care in the world for looks etc..Pretty much like the "sheep " that attend the swinging clubs on singles and couples nights ( yes all clubs have the sheep ! ). Being part of a couple on here also, i get to see both sides of the story and it really can be a pain in the arse sometimes to get the Hi, would love to fuck your mrs.

Yes, i do know what they mean & can understand it but hot the way its put, there are loads of good looking guys on here who i know she and many other women on here would love to meet. So, single guys...take your time, not everyone can just drop everything and make an appearance. Just understand that sometimes you aren't that couples particular taste and move on.. its a lot more polite and lets face it, there are plenty of guys on here to choose from, so make the effort !!1

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