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"yes there should be more plus size models but the media need to use them more.... " | |||
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"i believe there is a market for everything. Id personally prefer to see a plus size girl model a plus sized item of clothing. hate looking for clothes online in bigger sizes and a size 10-12 is wearing it. " exactly...just know the clothes aren't gonna look like that on me | |||
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"im divided in my thoughts over if plus size models should be used more.. being a large lass myself it would be handy to see clothes made for bigger women being modeled by plus size ladies,, however its not healthy to be a large size and if it were widely and more openly promoted would it be sending out the message to people that its 'ok' when we all know the health benefits are not? " Not healthy to be rake thin either but the media have no qualms using models that look like it. I wish they would use real sized people in an assortment of sizes. | |||
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" its not healthy to be a large size and if it were widely and more openly promoted would it be sending out the message to people that its 'ok' when we all know the health benefits are not? " I agree with this. This whole Gok Wan-proud-of-your-curves thing promotes the idea to women of all ages that it is ok to be overweight - it will lead to a variety of health problems which is not only a problem for themselves but a huge drain on the NHS too. Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either. Healthy models makes sense. | |||
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" its not healthy to be a large size and if it were widely and more openly promoted would it be sending out the message to people that its 'ok' when we all know the health benefits are not? I agree with this. This whole Gok Wan-proud-of-your-curves thing promotes the idea to women of all ages that it is ok to be overweight - it will lead to a variety of health problems which is not only a problem for themselves but a huge drain on the NHS too. Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either. Healthy models makes sense. " | |||
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" its not healthy to be a large size and if it were widely and more openly promoted would it be sending out the message to people that its 'ok' when we all know the health benefits are not? I agree with this. This whole Gok Wan-proud-of-your-curves thing promotes the idea to women of all ages that it is ok to be overweight - it will lead to a variety of health problems which is not only a problem for themselves but a huge drain on the NHS too. Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either. Healthy models makes sense. " I think the whole Gok thing is actually saying that we come in all shapes and sizes, and not all are stick thin. Some people can be fit as a fiddle but naturally carry curves and never be thin. There is obviously a difference between those who are overweight and do anything about it, and those who try. But whilst trying you should still be able to dress nicely. | |||
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" I think the whole Gok thing is actually saying that we come in all shapes and sizes, and not all are stick thin. Some people can be fit as a fiddle but naturally carry curves and never be thin. There is obviously a difference between those who are overweight and do anything about it, and those who try. But whilst trying you should still be able to dress nicely. " I agree with you. It is great that we do come in all shapes and sizes. And I know some people can be curvy AND healthy...I'm never going to be skinny or a 32" or 30" waist. But the idea that women should be proud to be big girls (i.e. that dreadful Mika song) is a strange one. It is equally as ridiculous for fully grown men to be proud of beer bellies. | |||
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" But the idea that women should be proud to be big girls (i.e. that dreadful Mika song) is a strange one. It is equally as ridiculous for fully grown men to be proud of beer bellies. " Personally i'm not proud of who i've become or what i look like, but until i shrink down i have to embrace my excessive curves in the meantime. There are admirers of every size. If we were all the same how tragically boring would this world be x | |||
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" But the idea that women should be proud to be big girls (i.e. that dreadful Mika song) is a strange one. It is equally as ridiculous for fully grown men to be proud of beer bellies. Personally i'm not proud of who i've become or what i look like, but until i shrink down i have to embrace my excessive curves in the meantime. There are admirers of every size. If we were all the same how tragically boring would this world be x" | |||
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"yes there should be more plus size models but the media need to use them more.... " Totally agree | |||
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" its not healthy to be a large size and if it were widely and more openly promoted would it be sending out the message to people that its 'ok' when we all know the health benefits are not? I agree with this. This whole Gok Wan-proud-of-your-curves thing promotes the idea to women of all ages that it is ok to be overweight - it will lead to a variety of health problems which is not only a problem for themselves but a huge drain on the NHS too. Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either. Healthy models makes sense. " I find this rather naïve. Do you really believe that the catwalk size 0 models are healthy? Do you think that collar bones and ribs sticking out promotes a good healthy image. There have been many reports of catwalk models existing on a diet of cocaine in order to not put weight on and retain the size 0 that the fashion houses demand. Is that healthy. I also get sick of all this bigger people being a drain on NHS resources. I take it you've never been inside an eating disorder unit and the cost of inpatient care. Are anorexics a drain on resources? | |||
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"Not for us we like healthy birds " By that comment are you suggesting that slim is always healthy? If so I think that's very offensive, I consider myself (save for a chronic condition) to be healthy. I walk 3 miles a day and eat healthily. | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say" yet | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say yet " That's a little harsh. Maybe her genes means she will stay healthy | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say yet " yep, thought that at 32 as well. Now have a few problems, the obvious one being diabetes. Don't count your chickens just yet..... | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say yet That's a little harsh. Maybe her genes means she will stay healthy" true she might be, but you cant deny the risks are there just by being significantly over weight. | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say yet That's a little harsh. Maybe her genes means she will stay healthy true she might be, but you cant deny the risks are there just by being significantly over weight. " To some people yes, but to others they can go all their life with no issues. | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say" I have been overweight most of my adult life and have always been deemed healthy, same as yourself all routine tests showed I was healthy, then I developed two illnesses which are directly affected by my weight and are improving as I lose weight It takes many years for the true effects of an unhealthy lifestyle (overeating is an unhealthy lifestyle) to show itself. Now wheres the scones, cream and jam? | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say yet That's a little harsh. Maybe her genes means she will stay healthy true she might be, but you cant deny the risks are there just by being significantly over weight. " i agree with u all but it still dont matter.... and the fact of the point is shud be more bbw models | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say I have been overweight most of my adult life and have always been deemed healthy, same as yourself all routine tests showed I was healthy, then I developed two illnesses which are directly affected by my weight and are improving as I lose weight It takes many years for the true effects of an unhealthy lifestyle (overeating is an unhealthy lifestyle) to show itself. Now wheres the scones, cream and jam? " clotted cream? lol | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say yet That's a little harsh. Maybe her genes means she will stay healthy true she might be, but you cant deny the risks are there just by being significantly over weight. To some people yes, but to others they can go all their life with no issues. " i find it funny that your trying to justify that being overweight is healthy and acceptable.. | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say yet That's a little harsh. Maybe her genes means she will stay healthy true she might be, but you cant deny the risks are there just by being significantly over weight. To some people yes, but to others they can go all their life with no issues. i find it funny that your trying to justify that being overweight is healthy and acceptable.. " im not im saying im happy this way and u shud be on my side,, arent u not overweight? | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say yet That's a little harsh. Maybe her genes means she will stay healthy true she might be, but you cant deny the risks are there just by being significantly over weight. To some people yes, but to others they can go all their life with no issues. i find it funny that your trying to justify that being overweight is healthy and acceptable.. im not im saying im happy this way and u shud be on my side,, arent u not overweight?" correct i am, i was referring to letsbehavingyou. | |||
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"im a big girl and im fit as a fiddle had all kinds of tests done and was told im fitter than some skinny girls not one health risk comes with me im glad to say yet That's a little harsh. Maybe her genes means she will stay healthy true she might be, but you cant deny the risks are there just by being significantly over weight. To some people yes, but to others they can go all their life with no issues. i find it funny that your trying to justify that being overweight is healthy and acceptable.. " I'm not saying its acceptable, what I'm saying is that so much is put on weight and size, but not always looking at other factors. If someone eats junk food everyday and is overweight and ill, then I have no sympathy. If. On the otherhand somepne leads a healthy lifestyle, but is deemed overweight just because that's how their body is, is another issue. I'm overweight, I don't always eat well, but I partake in sport and physical activities every week. My blood pressure is better than most on my team. I am able to run long distances. To society who don't know me I'm labelled very unhealthy, to those who know me, I'm not. Based on bmi is should be 12 stone tops. My doctor has said it would pretty much kill me to get there, so who do I listen to? That is my argument. | |||
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"I was a 26 last summer an understand how hard it can be getting clothes i hated shopping for clothes now I'm a 12 losing just over 12 stone shopping is so much quicker " wow, well done. what an achievement | |||
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"i believe there is a market for everything. Id personally prefer to see a plus size girl model a plus sized item of clothing. hate looking for clothes online in bigger sizes and a size 10-12 is wearing it. " This Morning is a case in point.. they have either stick thin models or when potraying larger sizes the model is a 16 size 6' model which totally defeats the message. I want to see normal average people model clothing. | |||
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"I was a 26 last summer an understand how hard it can be getting clothes i hated shopping for clothes now I'm a 12 losing just over 12 stone shopping is so much quicker " well wats ur tip for lossing so much weight without the aid od surgery | |||
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"It seems the fashion houses like to see their clothes on coat hangers, and that's why they use models that look like coat hangers. " you will find that a lot of designers are gay and design there clothe to fit pi-pubescent boys hence the skinny models not the women who will actually wear them | |||
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"It seems the fashion houses like to see their clothes on coat hangers, and that's why they use models that look like coat hangers. you will find that a lot of designers are gay and design there clothe to fit pi-pubescent boys hence the skinny models not the women who will actually wear them " why do they do that? | |||
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"I was a 26 last summer an understand how hard it can be getting clothes i hated shopping for clothes now I'm a 12 losing just over 12 stone shopping is so much quicker well wats ur tip for lossing so much weight without the aid od surgery" yep, share the secret...well done you!! | |||
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"I had the op an never looked back i even had a. meet the night i got out of hospital lol " ah but we all cant get an op to cure out obesity so ill just have to get my self walking more lol | |||
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" its not healthy to be a large size and if it were widely and more openly promoted would it be sending out the message to people that its 'ok' when we all know the health benefits are not? I agree with this. This whole Gok Wan-proud-of-your-curves thing promotes the idea to women of all ages that it is ok to be overweight - it will lead to a variety of health problems which is not only a problem for themselves but a huge drain on the NHS too. Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either. Healthy models makes sense. I find this rather naïve. Do you really believe that the catwalk size 0 models are healthy? Do you think that collar bones and ribs sticking out promotes a good healthy image. There have been many reports of catwalk models existing on a diet of cocaine in order to not put weight on and retain the size 0 that the fashion houses demand. Is that healthy. I also get sick of all this bigger people being a drain on NHS resources. I take it you've never been inside an eating disorder unit and the cost of inpatient care. Are anorexics a drain on resources?" I think you'll find I said "Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either." Please read my comment before calling me naive. And overweight people are a drain on the NHS - the super-obese in this country cost the government £450 million a year. Plus size models are hardly promoting healthy living and neither are stick thin models. | |||
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"It seems the fashion houses like to see their clothes on coat hangers, and that's why they use models that look like coat hangers. you will find that a lot of designers are gay and design there clothe to fit pi-pubescent boys hence the skinny models not the women who will actually wear them " ridiculous. While I'd love designers to provide more clothes for bigger sizes, the fact that they're gay has nothing to do with this. Especially when you look at most of the dresses, which are very womanly. It's Pride day, so don't make me come after you lol | |||
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"I'm classed as obese. My doctor says I should weigh in at 9st. I think I look ill at that weight. I currently am 12 stone, after losing a stone by exercising. That isn't good enough for my doctor. I am still unhealthy. Until I told him I am currently running 6k in 30 minutes, that shut him up!!! " That's my argument. | |||
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" its not healthy to be a large size and if it were widely and more openly promoted would it be sending out the message to people that its 'ok' when we all know the health benefits are not? I agree with this. This whole Gok Wan-proud-of-your-curves thing promotes the idea to women of all ages that it is ok to be overweight - it will lead to a variety of health problems which is not only a problem for themselves but a huge drain on the NHS too. Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either. Healthy models makes sense. I find this rather naïve. Do you really believe that the catwalk size 0 models are healthy? Do you think that collar bones and ribs sticking out promotes a good healthy image. There have been many reports of catwalk models existing on a diet of cocaine in order to not put weight on and retain the size 0 that the fashion houses demand. Is that healthy. I also get sick of all this bigger people being a drain on NHS resources. I take it you've never been inside an eating disorder unit and the cost of inpatient care. Are anorexics a drain on resources?" You don't seem to have read that post thoroughly. Their last sentence was "of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either". Fat people ARE a drain on the NHS and 98% of them are fat because they are gluttonous and lazy. This is NOT something to be proud of especially when there are millions if not billions of people in the world who don't have anything like enough to eat. | |||
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" its not healthy to be a large size and if it were widely and more openly promoted would it be sending out the message to people that its 'ok' when we all know the health benefits are not? I agree with this. This whole Gok Wan-proud-of-your-curves thing promotes the idea to women of all ages that it is ok to be overweight - it will lead to a variety of health problems which is not only a problem for themselves but a huge drain on the NHS too. Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either. Healthy models makes sense. I find this rather naïve. Do you really believe that the catwalk size 0 models are healthy? Do you think that collar bones and ribs sticking out promotes a good healthy image. There have been many reports of catwalk models existing on a diet of cocaine in order to not put weight on and retain the size 0 that the fashion houses demand. Is that healthy. I also get sick of all this bigger people being a drain on NHS resources. I take it you've never been inside an eating disorder unit and the cost of inpatient care. Are anorexics a drain on resources? I think you'll find I said "Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either." Please read my comment before calling me naive. And overweight people are a drain on the NHS - the super-obese in this country cost the government £450 million a year. " As do drug addicts, alcoholics, smokers and people with carelessness catching stds. All causes a drain on our nhs. | |||
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" As do drug addicts, alcoholics, smokers and people with carelessness catching stds. All causes a drain on our nhs. " I quite agree - absolutely. I think I should take back the word drain. It does seem overly judgemental. I entirely understand people cannot always help these problems and the NHS should be there to help them. But surely if, as a society, we can be healthier it can be no bad thing? | |||
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" its not healthy to be a large size and if it were widely and more openly promoted would it be sending out the message to people that its 'ok' when we all know the health benefits are not? I agree with this. This whole Gok Wan-proud-of-your-curves thing promotes the idea to women of all ages that it is ok to be overweight - it will lead to a variety of health problems which is not only a problem for themselves but a huge drain on the NHS too. Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either. Healthy models makes sense. I find this rather naïve. Do you really believe that the catwalk size 0 models are healthy? Do you think that collar bones and ribs sticking out promotes a good healthy image. There have been many reports of catwalk models existing on a diet of cocaine in order to not put weight on and retain the size 0 that the fashion houses demand. Is that healthy. I also get sick of all this bigger people being a drain on NHS resources. I take it you've never been inside an eating disorder unit and the cost of inpatient care. Are anorexics a drain on resources? You don't seem to have read that post thoroughly. Their last sentence was "of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either". Fat people ARE a drain on the NHS and 98% of them are fat because they are gluttonous and lazy. This is NOT something to be proud of especially when there are millions if not billions of people in the world who don't have anything like enough to eat. " People starving is not down to people being obese. That is an outrageous thing to say! They are starving due to politics, corruption and weather conditions. If I eat less that food wont go to a starving person in Africa. If I pay plan international montly then I help someone in Africa. Your _iews are warped. | |||
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"and smokers are and drinkers are and multiple sexual swoppers are and sports players are and fast drivers are " ..... that's me totally fekked then. | |||
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"and smokers are and drinkers are and multiple sexual swoppers are and sports players are and fast drivers are ..... that's me totally fekked then. " Me too!! | |||
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" its not healthy to be a large size and if it were widely and more openly promoted would it be sending out the message to people that its 'ok' when we all know the health benefits are not? I agree with this. This whole Gok Wan-proud-of-your-curves thing promotes the idea to women of all ages that it is ok to be overweight - it will lead to a variety of health problems which is not only a problem for themselves but a huge drain on the NHS too. Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either. Healthy models makes sense. I find this rather naïve. Do you really believe that the catwalk size 0 models are healthy? Do you think that collar bones and ribs sticking out promotes a good healthy image. There have been many reports of catwalk models existing on a diet of cocaine in order to not put weight on and retain the size 0 that the fashion houses demand. Is that healthy. I also get sick of all this bigger people being a drain on NHS resources. I take it you've never been inside an eating disorder unit and the cost of inpatient care. Are anorexics a drain on resources? You don't seem to have read that post thoroughly. Their last sentence was "of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either". Fat people ARE a drain on the NHS and 98% of them are fat because they are gluttonous and lazy. This is NOT something to be proud of especially when there are millions if not billions of people in the world who don't have anything like enough to eat. " My comment on naivety was in relation to the drain on NHS resorces comment. It is not true that the reason the NHS suffers financially is down to fat people becoming ill. When you call fat people glutinous and lazy and not something to be proud of, then I ask you if you are aware of the billions it costs to treat smoking related illnesses. Self induced habit forming smoking of nicotine is nothing to be proud of wither is it? | |||
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"My comment on naivety was in relation to the drain on NHS resorces comment. It is not true that the reason the NHS suffers financially is down to fat people becoming ill. When you call fat people glutinous and lazy and not something to be proud of, then I ask you if you are aware of the billions it costs to treat smoking related illnesses. Self induced habit forming smoking of nicotine is nothing to be proud of wither is it? " But if there were less overweight people then there would be more funds available surely? And I agree with your point on smoking too. And drinking. But I don't do either. And I wouldn't call fat people gluttonous or lazy. That was uncalled for and shows a lack of understanding surrounding weight-based health issues | |||
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"why has a thread about a gorgeous curvy size 16 model turned into a bash the overweight for being a drain on the nhs thread? I used to weigh over 30 stone, my bmi was 72 and was a size 32, I never had any weight related illness. I've lost over 18 stone and now size 14/16 with a bmi of 29. I agree that we should see clothes on all sizes." And she's a sexy lady. | |||
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" its not healthy to be a large size and if it were widely and more openly promoted would it be sending out the message to people that its 'ok' when we all know the health benefits are not? I agree with this. This whole Gok Wan-proud-of-your-curves thing promotes the idea to women of all ages that it is ok to be overweight - it will lead to a variety of health problems which is not only a problem for themselves but a huge drain on the NHS too. Of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either. Healthy models makes sense. I find this rather naïve. Do you really believe that the catwalk size 0 models are healthy? Do you think that collar bones and ribs sticking out promotes a good healthy image. There have been many reports of catwalk models existing on a diet of cocaine in order to not put weight on and retain the size 0 that the fashion houses demand. Is that healthy. I also get sick of all this bigger people being a drain on NHS resources. I take it you've never been inside an eating disorder unit and the cost of inpatient care. Are anorexics a drain on resources? You don't seem to have read that post thoroughly. Their last sentence was "of course we should not promote extreme skinniness either". Fat people ARE a drain on the NHS and 98% of them are fat because they are gluttonous and lazy. This is NOT something to be proud of especially when there are millions if not billions of people in the world who don't have anything like enough to eat. People starving is not down to people being obese. That is an outrageous thing to say! They are starving due to politics, corruption and weather conditions. If I eat less that food wont go to a starving person in Africa. If I pay plan international montly then I help someone in Africa. Your _iews are warped. " I understood what Sexyslut79 was saying, maybe look at the comment the other way round? | |||
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"My comment on naivety was in relation to the drain on NHS resorces comment. It is not true that the reason the NHS suffers financially is down to fat people becoming ill. When you call fat people glutinous and lazy and not something to be proud of, then I ask you if you are aware of the billions it costs to treat smoking related illnesses. Self induced habit forming smoking of nicotine is nothing to be proud of wither is it? But if there were less overweight people then there would be more funds available surely? And I agree with your point on smoking too. And drinking. But I don't do either. And I wouldn't call fat people gluttonous or lazy. That was uncalled for and shows a lack of understanding surrounding weight-based health issues" But she did say 98% were gluttonous or lazy therefore not all are | |||
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