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" lance armstrong must have been the worlds most tested person and he never failed one.... " The world's most tested athlete is just one of the many lies pushed by him. The reality is that he is not even the most tested American cyclist called Armstrong, that honour falls to Kirsten Armstrong. | |||
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"Cav isn't in particularly good sprinting form right now anyway should get a few stages though. Sky will be keeping wiggo protected at the front of the race so cav will also be well positioned. With only one man to look after him though will probably sit on another sprinters wheel for the final part" I'm sure I'd heard that Cav has changed his training because he's concentrating on the olympics. Brad's second at the moment, but the Yellow Jersey looks in top form. | |||
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"THis maybe me been sceptical but it appears to me that the organisers have made a concerted effort to prevent cav from winning too many stages, and the green jersey, 2 of the 3 stages have finished up a cat 4 climb which has never been heard of in the first week, also why if they are finishing up a cat 4 why are the points going to the green jersey not the kom, I smell a conspiracy" You are wrong, it's not unheard of. And stage 1 was never going to be flat partially because of where it was located and partially because the Belgian organisers were always going to want a stage to suit Gilbert. Those hilly finishes eliminate all Cav's main rivals too so hardly a conspiracy against him. | |||
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"THere's lots of stories out there about him Floyd landis said he was in the same room while they took stuff together, but the facts are he's never been court out, not saying he never did it but never got caught, so we would have to say he isn't a cheat, I do think team sky have taken too much on aiming for both green yellow and hopefully white lynsey's" sky arent aiming or the green jersey. Cavendish had to go it alone and admits that he will have to pick of wins as and when he can | |||
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"THere's lots of stories out there about him Floyd landis said he was in the same room while they took stuff together, but the facts are he's never been court out, not saying he never did it but never got caught, so we would have to say he isn't a cheat, I do think team sky have taken too much on aiming for both green yellow and hopefully white lynsey's sky arent aiming or the green jersey. Cavendish had to go it alone and admits that he will have to pick of wins as and when he can " For a rider not going for the Green, Cav is very active in the intermediates so far. | |||
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"Jesus - I love cycling, always have!! I've ridden ventoux, d'huez and loved telemar, done the endless switchbacks of Madeleine and nearly wiped out on the descent, visited the factory where my beloved Belleri St Ettien bars were made and shaken the hand of people like Cipollini, Millar, Fignon and the uniballer himself. I just wish my body was stronger when I was in my 20's and I could have competed. Ahhhh - it's great to be alive!!" I always wanted to be a "mountain goat"... lol i love just watching all the mountain stages.... I have always said they should just do a mountain time trial going from nearest town at the bottom to the top of alp d'huez... from a spectator point of _iew that would be epic! | |||
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"Jesus - I love cycling, always have!! I've ridden ventoux, d'huez and loved telemar, done the endless switchbacks of Madeleine and nearly wiped out on the descent, visited the factory where my beloved Belleri St Ettien bars were made and shaken the hand of people like Cipollini, Millar, Fignon and the uniballer himself. I just wish my body was stronger when I was in my 20's and I could have competed. Ahhhh - it's great to be alive!! I always wanted to be a "mountain goat"... lol i love just watching all the mountain stages.... I have always said they should just do a mountain time trial going from nearest town at the bottom to the top of alp d'huez... from a spectator point of _iew that would be epic! " They did in 2004, it was scary to watch the crowds were so huge. In 89 (I think, the year the British ANC team rode) they had one up the Ventoux, there is a picture of Jeff Bernard, the stage winner bright red, skin suit unzipped, spit all down his chin that sums up the beauty and brutality of the sport perfectly. | |||
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"Erm , domestiques aren't there to save themselves. They ride possibly the hardest and are rarely In the GC. " They are also aren't there to win stages which is not the case with Edvald Boasson-Hagen. There is a world of difference between using energy working for your team leader and and using it trying to win a stage. He should be saving himself to be as fresh as possible for when the real racing starts. BMC have 8 riders working for Evans, and that is all they will do. Sky only ever had 7 domestiques, one of whom is arguably there primarily for Cav and one of whom crashed out yesterday. So non of them should be thinking of personal glory. | |||
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"Erm , domestiques aren't there to save themselves. They ride possibly the hardest and are rarely In the GC. They are also aren't there to win stages which is not the case with Edvald Boasson-Hagen. There is a world of difference between using energy working for your team leader and and using it trying to win a stage. He should be saving himself to be as fresh as possible for when the real racing starts. BMC have 8 riders working for Evans, and that is all they will do. Sky only ever had 7 domestiques, one of whom is arguably there primarily for Cav and one of whom crashed out yesterday. So non of them should be thinking of personal glory. " actually in the case of most teams any winnings from something like a tour,giro or vuelta are actually grouped together and are shared equally..... so EBH must of had the blessing of SKY to do what he did.. as he would have been their best chance of a win on that day... 1 and 3.... cav was their best chance to win stage 2...and did... and will probably be their best chance to win today.... BMC's total focus is on evans and the yellow... SKY are in a awkward position where they could if they put all their eggs in one basket go after yellow or green.... but since Cav's main focus this year is the Olympic Road Race.... it kind of makes the decision easy for SKY and to let EBH grab a stage or two if he could.... the interesting thing will be more next years when they will have to make a decision.... | |||
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"Can any one remember back in the early 80's, all the tour got was 1 hour at 5pm before prime time tv. No poofy helmets and trick bikes - dura ace ax, mavic SSC greys shod to a Reynolds 753 or Vitus frame and it was all about who would push it farthest. I wonder how the current crop of riders would fair on a 12 speed bike...." or 10 gears even!. eddy merkcx won his tours using a 5 block with two 18 sprockets so he could get a better chain line when dropping down onto the little ring. | |||
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"Can any one remember back in the early 80's, all the tour got was 1 hour at 5pm before prime time tv. No poofy helmets and trick bikes - dura ace ax, mavic SSC greys shod to a Reynolds 753 or Vitus frame and it was all about who would push it farthest. I wonder how the current crop of riders would fair on a 12 speed bike.... or 10 gears even!. eddy merkcx won his tours using a 5 block with two 18 sprockets so he could get a better chain line when dropping down onto the little ring. " Did Merkx go down onto the little ring often?? | |||
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"which guys do you listen to commentary wise... as much as I like Phil and paul on ITV4... I love the Eurosport guys.. they keep me well entertained.... lol" Love the Eurosport guys !..son is a rugby pro in the south of France..staying with him soon, hoping to be at the Pau stage..Pyranees in the background epic!! | |||
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"Me thinks the race will come down to the two time trials as Wiggo & Evans will cancel each other out on the climbs! " Sky have 3 riders that can attack Evans on the future climbs within the top 10 of the GC - it's not necessarily down to time trials. | |||
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"Me thinks the race will come down to the two time trials as Wiggo & Evans will cancel each other out on the climbs! Sky have 3 riders that can attack Evans on the future climbs within the top 10 of the GC - it's not necessarily down to time trials." True. But many tried to break the Aussie last year but he keeps on going / limiting his losses. For the record though, I'd like Wiggo to win although Froome may be a threat to leadership if Wig falters (as in previous grand tours) | |||
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"Am sure Cavendish will go for 4 straight wins in the last stage nobody's done that before... Go Cavendish " am quite sure cav will want to show rising star sagen how to finish on champs elysees!. good chance in tt tomorrow for wiggo to grab a few more sconds on cadel evans as he wiggo be last to start and will be getting the time checks to aid him,also chris froome can close the gap on top 3 riders. go go sky!. | |||
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"love the mountain stages some of the most underated athletes on the planet. as for lance he is undoubtedly one of the greatest athletes ever.the man is a total inspiration" Totally agree!! | |||
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"reckon froome will be a team leader in his own right eventually. Handy man for bw to have around but his performances in the tour and last years vuelta must make a few of the other teams covet him. Not sure if he can time trial but he can certainly climb" he can absolutely time trial... he beat wiggins in one of the time trials on the vuelta last year... after today I expect wiggins to lead and froome to be 3rd..... i think they may try and break evans with some sort of counter punch at some point... | |||
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"reckon froome will be a team leader in his own right eventually. Handy man for bw to have around but his performances in the tour and last years vuelta must make a few of the other teams covet him. Not sure if he can time trial but he can certainly climb he can absolutely time trial... he beat wiggins in one of the time trials on the vuelta last year... after today I expect wiggins to lead and froome to be 3rd..... i think they may try and break evans with some sort of counter punch at some point..." wow spookily spot on. | |||
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"Watch how they are moving on the bike and breathing. Evans - big gulps of air, lots of wasted energy moving the bike around, on the limit Wiggy - composed, steady and he wasn't flat out" I was 3 months old when I went to my first TT (I'd have been younger but I was born in the winter), so having spent a life around the discipline I love seeing it done well. Wiggins today was beautiful to watch, as you say so steady and seemingly effortless truly a sight to behold. | |||
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"reckon froome will be a team leader in his own right eventually. Handy man for bw to have around but his performances in the tour and last years vuelta must make a few of the other teams covet him. Not sure if he can time trial but he can certainly climb" After his Vuelta performance I am amazed that he felt that the best thing to do was sign a 3 year contract with SKY. He could and arguably should have won the Vuelta last year. I suspect SKY offered him a huge contract but the length of the contract shows a lack of ambition. I think he is stronger than Wiggins. | |||
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"I quite fancy a couple of hours on an old bike" Seconded!!! Lucky old saddle! | |||
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"'French Tour de France rider Remy Di Gregorio has been suspended by Cofidis' Another potential scandal....no wonder alot of people still think the sport is 'tainted' " football is tainted too!,but the difference is that in the tour de france the UCI make sure anyone caught cheating is eliminated straight away!,in footballs big games like the european championships and world cups the 'cheaters' are not named!,uefa announce 2 months after the competition that so many players were caught 'cheating'but do not name names!,have you ever noticed how so many star players do not start the new season as diagnosed with a 'mystery ailment'?,or 'over-tired with fatigue and miss the first month of new season?,are they serving match bans?. makes you wonder eh?. | |||
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"froome is a machine up them hills, he looked done at one point and then exploded again to tow wiggins up to the 2nd break, wiggins looked tired though, froome will be leaving sky soon to become a team leader and challenge for yellow, would be good next year to see two British riders battling out for top spot, think cav is too far behind to win green now but can still get some stage wins and the main one in paris" froome signed a 3 year deal with sky before world champs last year after his vuelta runners up ride,think he will see his contract through as he not get a better set up than sky at the moment!. i see him team leader for vuelta and if he starts next season like wiggo started this season the tour de france leaders job is his for sure!. cav going for green jersey was not a priority this olympic year but a few stage wins were hoped for!,cav wanted the points jersey from giro d'italia to make up the grand tours set of three. but them boys are awesome and the sky train keeps a rollin. | |||
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"The whole sky team looked tired.. but then again the amount of work they are all having to put in in immense! Every other team, doesn't have the power to keep pace with these guys.. they are simply a diesel locomotive up them hills! (mountains). Good news for Wiggins and Froome that Evans blew up yesterday.. should be interesting to see what happens with him - probably wait till the Pyrenees to go on the attack.. after resting a few days.. Nibali is looking the main threat currently.. he's climbing is getting better, and he can decend like a banshee.. if there is a valley finish after a ramped mountain.. look out for nibali to go on the attack." two of the last pyranees stages end on a down hill, definate danger of him using his break away spead to get a gap before a peak then storming away downhill. Today could be interestng to see who has suffered most after yesterday, Is Cadel broken or will he try and bounce back now the attention is on Nabili (definately expect to see an attempt). Did Nabili push hiself too far with all his break attempts. Did froome the workhorse drag out too much from himself yesterday helping Wiggo , and was Wiggins failure to keep up with Froome on his break a sign that he is suffering (tho he says he was caught whilst taking it easy to de lactate) fascinating day ahead. | |||
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"i dont think there will be too much attacking today from the lead contenders just because the mountains are way too far from the finish.... so the question may well be which sprinter can get over the mountains today with a team in tact..... that stage was epic yesterday.... my jaw almost dropped when froome attacked for 30 seconds..... like wow!!! but it showed who is the strongman of this tour....." once again you called it right. | |||
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" football is tainted too!,but the difference is that in the tour de france the UCI make sure anyone caught cheating is eliminated straight away!,in footballs big games like the european championships and world cups the 'cheaters' are not named!,uefa announce 2 months after the competition that so many players were caught 'cheating'but do not name names!,have you ever noticed how so many star players do not start the new season as diagnosed with a 'mystery ailment'?,or 'over-tired with fatigue and miss the first month of new season?,are they serving match bans?. makes you wonder eh?." Football doesn't bother me really, don't see that what happens in another totally different sport has to do with a sport I enjoy watching/participating in. I think the post was to point out ANOTHER case of a potential scandal that could damage the image of cycyling once again. In my opinion of course | |||
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" Football doesn't bother me really, don't see that what happens in another totally different sport has to do with a sport I enjoy watching/participating in. I think the post was to point out ANOTHER case of a potential scandal that could damage the image of cycyling once again. In my opinion of course " football does not bother me one iota!,but it does annoy me when the press ignore the good rides and wins by brit riders and taint the sport that i love and participate in with big headlines about one suspected rider accused of using drugs. cycling governing UCI body shoots itself in the foot by announcing any drug suspected rider and ban him/remove him from the race immediatly,but football keeps it underwraps by silently announcing how many failed drug tests months after a tournament without naming them or the suspensions imposed!,football takes the easy way out leaving cycling look suspect when in actual fact cycling is the cleaner sport.! in my honest opinion of course. | |||
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" that stage was epic yesterday.... my jaw almost dropped when froome attacked for 30 seconds..... like wow!!! but it showed who is the strongman of this tour....." Rumour has it he misheard an instruction of "slow" as "go"... It fits as he sat up very quick and was stright on his radio. Today was great, big fan of Millar and that makes it 4 British stage wins . Well 1 manxman, 1 kenyan, 1 maltese born scot and a belgium born londoner! | |||
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" that stage was epic yesterday.... my jaw almost dropped when froome attacked for 30 seconds..... like wow!!! but it showed who is the strongman of this tour..... Rumour has it he misheard an instruction of "slow" as "go"... It fits as he sat up very quick and was stright on his radio." it was said (think sean yates said it?)in itv4 inter_iew straight after the stage that they said 'slow' but chris froome thought they said 'go!' so as you do without looking round and hesitating he jumped straight away!,was when yatesy saw on in car tv monitor what froomedog had done he yelled back 'slow!' which he obeyed straight away!,froome is a number one super domestique soon to be team leader in a grand tour i reckon!. | |||
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"Will David Millar ever shut up about being an 'ex-doper', etc, etc?? He tainted this great sport by taking drugs & the only reason he stopped was because he got caught! Now we allow him to ride in the Olympics!!! " actually of all the people that have been caught he was the one who held his hands up, has been vermently anti-drugs ever since, had done cycling seminars on the dangers of drugs and had given that money to charities that deal with drug abuse... and was the one person who didn't mention the olympics at all, never challenged the punishment he got.. as a person in the cycling community you won't get many saying a bad word against him..... he did he time like everyone else.... and he will be a huge asset in the olympic road race as team leader... | |||
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"Will David Millar ever shut up about being an 'ex-doper', etc, etc?? He tainted this great sport by taking drugs & the only reason he stopped was because he got caught! Now we allow him to ride in the Olympics!!! " Some one has an awful lot to learn about the real world - the truth... You don't want to know it, I really mean that! I have 3 things to say ... 1. Isnt it great racing! 2. Wiggy is playing the game so well - what a star! 3. Where's Cavendish (his VO2 max, weight and wattage should put him up there but he's hopeless if he can't get a tow to the finish. | |||
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"Will David Millar ever shut up about being an 'ex-doper', etc, etc?? He tainted this great sport by taking drugs & the only reason he stopped was because he got caught! Now we allow him to ride in the Olympics!!! actually of all the people that have been caught he was the one who held his hands up, has been vermently anti-drugs ever since, had done cycling seminars on the dangers of drugs and had given that money to charities that deal with drug abuse... and was the one person who didn't mention the olympics at all, never challenged the punishment he got.. as a person in the cycling community you won't get many saying a bad word against him..... he did he time like everyone else.... and he will be a huge asset in the olympic road race as team leader..." With the greatest respect to you, I am of the opinion that once caught taking drugs, athletes should be banned for life - in which ever sport they participate in! And I'm not naive enough to believe many cyclist have probably dabbled in some sort of drug enhancement during their career (awaiting the fall-out on that remark!) Still love the tour though, as well as all the other races during the year. Just a shame that team tactics do not allow Froome to race!! | |||
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" Having followed the event for the best part of 25 years, i have two questions. 1. Is it great racing, amongst the best ever, and 2. Are individual radios for each rider, and instructions thereon, actually spoiling the "racing" and event? Why not go the whole hog and have radio controlled robots on bikes? " I hate race radios. they sanitise racing . They have a place from a safety point of _iew but beyond that I wish they'd go. | |||
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"since sky is a british Team... I wonder what pressure they are going to be under to try and put out as "british" a team as possible ... remember ben swift, Ian Stannard (british road race champion) Gerraint Thomas comes back next year from the team persuit... add froome, Wiggins and cavandish... EBH, and the two aussies, Mick Rogers and Ritchie Porte... that would work for me.... but would that be balanced enough to cater to everyone? " The strongest team possible to whatever race they enter. Regardless of nationality. However the crux of the team will and should be British, but only on merit! Team SKY was put together to work towards getting a British TdF winner within 5 years.. it looks as though either Brad or Chris (if something happens to Brad) will do that this year! Thats great for British cycling and will only encourage more young people to take up the sport. | |||
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"ITV 4 has vanished all of a sudden...wtf...." ITV4... noooo... you want to be watching the Eurosport lads... much better commentary... | |||
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"in 80s in britain tony capper of ANC put together a number 1 team of anc halfords into british cycling and then formed a sister team,both joined together to form anc halfords tour de france team but they had to 'buy in' some foreign riders for the continemtal expeience. was not a good tour although malcolm elliott showed himself in the sprints and adrian timmis finished the race with him on champs elysees they were the only two gb riders in thart team to finish. i don't know in this day & age about a sky 'A' team & 'B' team as the cost is enormous to pay riders,director sportif,back up team ie,masseurs mechanics etc. " The ANC team was because in Britain at the time each team was limited to 6 or 8 riders. It wouldn;t be allowed now. Sponsors are limited to one team. Rapha Condor Sharp despite being little more than a domestic team this year have already rebranded back to Rapha Condor since Sharp became a co-sponsor of Garmin. I think (but could be wrong) that teams are allowed to have feeder teams but they are normally U23/development teams. | |||
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" i don't know in this day & age about a sky 'A' team & 'B' team as the cost is enormous to pay riders,director sportif,back up team ie,masseurs mechanics etc. " HTC Highroad was set up just to win stage races not the overall win, whereas Saxo Bank and BMC are set up to be the overall winner and not contest the stage races. So there is scope for a double team entry even if they are "separate" teams.. Of course you need the funding.. but that's achievable. Personally im not sure why Cav decided to join SKY, maybe for the pay packet? Or to improve his chances for the Olympics with the management of Dave Brailsford, but his chances of doing well at TdF or any other Grand Tour are certainly reduced since he doesn't have the protection of other riders, riding specifically for him. | |||
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" The ANC team was because in Britain at the time each team was limited to 6 or 8 riders. It wouldn;t be allowed now. Sponsors are limited to one team. Rapha Condor Sharp despite being little more than a domestic team this year have already rebranded back to Rapha Condor since Sharp became a co-sponsor of Garmin. I think (but could be wrong) that teams are allowed to have feeder teams but they are normally U23/development teams." in 80s teams in britain could only have 6 riders so tony capper set up 3 teams in fact to ride under his ANC parcels umberella in britain but still nheeded 3-4 continental riders for tour de france team. yes i think the second string teams these days are espoirs/development squads. | |||
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"well this stage has been madness... and if it is confirmed there were tacks on the road it has spoiled a good days racing....." 28 tacks on road been handded in by one directeur sportif!,spoiled a good day. | |||
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"well this stage has been madness... and if it is confirmed there were tacks on the road it has spoiled a good days racing..... 28 tacks on road been handded in by one directeur sportif!,spoiled a good day." Madness. Pierre Rolland will have made himself no friends today. Was good to see SKY neutralise the race and also the BMC boys acknowledging the team cars when they got back on. Both very sporting gestures. | |||
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"ITV 4 has vanished all of a sudden...wtf.... ITV4... noooo... you want to be watching the Eurosport lads... much better commentary..." Agree | |||
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"ANC Halfords, don't make me laugh any more!!!! They got wasted by the likes of 7-11 and la vie Claire who themselves were mediocre. They couldn't even afford decent silver braised 753c or lugless vitus tubued frames and raced in 531c. Today was disconnected and messy, an attempt to get back to some of the classical stages but I'm starting to think the race is over already unless something special happens. It needs Andy Schlek, Sammy Sanchez and an on form Armatrong scrapping it out with Cuntador over the mountains. In other words, sky are too strong which is great for the UK but the fizz and danger is supressed. Ah well." ANC, or at least the british based riders were riding 753 rourkes badged as peugots. They didn't have specialist TT bikes and didn't even have 9 dusc wheels. Agree about this years race, the only excitement is down to Wiggins been a Brit, from a racing point of _iew on a par with the Indurain years. | |||
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"ANC or at least the british based riders were riding 753 rourkes badged as peugots. They didn't have specialist TT bikes and didn't even have 9 dis wheels. Agree about this years race, the only excitement is down to Wiggins been a Brit, from a racing point of _iew on a par with the Indurain years." at the tour phil griffiths had to shell out of his own money to buy disc wheels for the TT's,and as for the frames they might well have been re-badged rourke frames but not all the peleton bikes were as badged!,barry hoban rode woodrups and not mrcier when he rode for mercier bp,chris boardman road dolan built frames during his tour de france career. | |||
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"Frank Schleck has tested positive." just heard and am in shock.... he has 4 days to appeal to have his b sample tested.. but nissan trek have already decided to remove him from the tour.... | |||
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"Frank Schleck has tested positive. just heard and am in shock.... he has 4 days to appeal to have his b sample tested.. but nissan trek have already decided to remove him from the tour...." probably just protocol on behalf of the team, it's pretty much the done thing across all the teams. | |||
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"Frank Schleck has tested positive." only a dieretic so not as bad as epo or others; seems a bit daft takeing stuff; to be tested evry day? cest la vie | |||
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"Frank Schleck has tested positive.only a dieretic so not as bad as epo or others; seems a bit daft takeing stuff; to be tested evry day? cest la vie" It's used as a masking agent. (whatever he was on he should ask for his money back) | |||
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"Frank Schleck has tested positive.only a dieretic so not as bad as epo or others; seems a bit daft takeing stuff; to be tested evry day? cest la vie It's used as a masking agent. (whatever he was on he should ask for his money back)" On the subject of money, let's not forget a few years ago Frank was suspended by his team when it was discovered he was making payments to Dr Fuentes (Operation Puerto). For reasons unkown the Luxembourg cycling authorities felt he had done nothing wrong despite identical evidence leading to 2 year bans for many other riders. Oh and then there's the time his oldman spent a night in the cells during the tour a few years back while the gendarmerie searched for drugs in his campervan... His defence already smacks of desperation, this has been a longtime coming and I just hope he doesn't get off this time | |||
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"WOW!,what a finish by cavendish!,the manx missile has not left any of his sprinting speed up in the alps nor pyrenees!,that was phenominal finishing even by his standards.. hope he gets sundays finishing stage on champs elysees to beat eddy merckx record and finishes off a great month for british cycling by winning olympic road race on the mall a weeek tomorrow!. at the moment the GB lads in the sky team are phenominal!,great team work to by the rest sky team. " He needs another 13 to beat Eddy. | |||
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"WOW!,what a finish by cavendish!,the manx missile has not left any of his sprinting speed up in the alps nor pyrenees!,that was phenominal finishing even by his standards.. hope he gets sundays finishing stage on champs elysees to beat eddy merckx record and finishes off a great month for british cycling by winning olympic road race on the mall a weeek tomorrow!. at the moment the GB lads in the sky team are phenominal!,great team work to by the rest sky team. He needs another 13 to beat Eddy." creampieguy is right. you are talking about total number of stage wins. Merckx has 34 to Cavs 22 currently, but merckx only won the Paris stage 3 times. cav will beat that on sunday if he wins again. | |||
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" creampieguy is right. you are talking about total number of stage wins. Merckx has 34 to Cavs 22 currently, but merckx only won the Paris stage 3 times. cav will beat that on sunday if he wins again." the total stage wins record is possible for rhe manx missile to break over the next few years but one record of merckx no one will ever beat is the historic 1969 tour when merckx took 1st overall GC 1st mountains 1st points class 1st combined 1st combativity that is why he was nicknamed the cannibal because he wanted to win everything!,in 1970 the year later he won the tour GC and king of the mountains prize,a poor tour by eddy merckx standards. | |||
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"what a terrific day for brad wigins,team sky & GB!. 1-2-5 in the time trial for sky!,hopefully a win on last stage for cav on the champs elsees in paris too?. all augers well for GB in the olympics once these guys have had a few days rest as they only had 2 days off in past 3 weeks!. " They are flying back on a private jet tomorrow afternoon, no celebrating, focused straight on the Olympics. | |||
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" creampieguy is right. you are talking about total number of stage wins. Merckx has 34 to Cavs 22 currently, but merckx only won the Paris stage 3 times. cav will beat that on sunday if he wins again. the total stage wins record is possible for rhe manx missile to break over the next few years but one record of merckx no one will ever beat is the historic 1969 tour when merckx took 1st overall GC 1st mountains 1st points class 1st combined 1st combativity that is why he was nicknamed the cannibal because he wanted to win everything!,in 1970 the year later he won the tour GC and king of the mountains prize,a poor tour by eddy merckx standards. " is that also the year he would have won the white jersey, young rider under 25, had it then been in existence? | |||
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" creampieguy is right. you are talking about total number of stage wins. Merckx has 34 to Cavs 22 currently, but merckx only won the Paris stage 3 times. cav will beat that on sunday if he wins again. the total stage wins record is possible for rhe manx missile to break over the next few years but one record of merckx no one will ever beat is the historic 1969 tour when merckx took 1st overall GC 1st mountains 1st points class 1st combined 1st combativity that is why he was nicknamed the cannibal because he wanted to win everything!,in 1970 the year later he won the tour GC and king of the mountains prize,a poor tour by eddy merckx standards. is that also the year he would have won the white jersey, young rider under 25, had it then been in existence?" yep!,i reckon it was as he would have been 24yrs old in that tour. | |||
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