FabSwingers.com forum: Bi Visibility Day

By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

To all my bi brothers and sisters (and anyone who doesn't fall directly under bisexual but suffers from problems related to bi erasure): you are worthy of being seen. (She says, largely in the closet in "real life" because ugh people)

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Bi and Proud here Miss Fantastic Arse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To all my bi brothers and sisters (and anyone who doesn't fall directly under bisexual but suffers from problems related to bi erasure): you are worthy of being seen. (She says, largely in the closet in "real life" because ugh people)"

Afternoon gorgeous

Nice bum!

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By *handraWoman
over a year ago

Hastings

Bi here.. Happy about that.. Would love more female experiences though x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Oooh have Specsavers got an offer on to help us with our vision? Terribly decent of them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was straight when I was younger

Was bi when I was in my late teens

Was gay when I was in my early 20s

And in a loving f/f relationship

Now I'm bi and in a relationship with my bf

So I'm not confused at all lol

Just bi

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Prefer Pansexual these days but certainly Bi previously, so have a great day, you greedy people

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By *imon_hydeMan
over a year ago

Stockport

I'll have a bag of chips at lunch to celebrate!

I'm hoping it's fat bastard bi awareness Day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'll have a bag of chips at lunch to celebrate!

I'm hoping it's fat bastard bi awareness Day."

I make every day fat bi bastard awareness day

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"I'll have a bag of chips at lunch to celebrate!

I'm hoping it's fat bastard bi awareness Day."

No that'd be bastard bi fat awareness day for chips

For fat bastard bi awareness day it's a quarterpounder with (hopefully) no cheese

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Was straight when I was younger

Was bi when I was in my late teens

Was gay when I was in my early 20s

And in a loving f/f relationship

Now I'm bi and in a relationship with my bf

So I'm not confused at all lol

Just bi

Bisexuality was a myth, I was told.

Admiring my female peers... that has a physical platonic component, yes?

Years of feelings I couldn't explain.

It came upon me like a lightbolt from the sky.

Just a phase, when my family found out 14 years ago, forbidding me from seeing my girlfriend.

Just a phase, when I had to deal with her death alone.

Just a phase. As I worked out that I couldn't trust them. As I worked out who else I could trust.

Just a phase to this day, not being able to be fully myself.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

All joking aside - whilst I agree that awareness and acceptance of bisexuality is important I personally am not much of a one for "days" to promote anything - yes I can see their value for providing a focal point in some instances but surely the better thing to do would be to promote awareness and acceptance every day, and always feel that having specific "days" whilst providing that focal point, somewhat detracts and dilutes it and leaves it forgotten as we move onto the next "day".

I'm bisexual 365 days of the year and personally don't need a specific day to raise awareness of that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All joking aside - whilst I agree that awareness and acceptance of bisexuality is important I personally am not much of a one for "days" to promote anything - yes I can see their value for providing a focal point in some instances but surely the better thing to do would be to promote awareness and acceptance every day, and always feel that having specific "days" whilst providing that focal point, somewhat detracts and dilutes it and leaves it forgotten as we move onto the next "day".

I'm bisexual 365 days of the year and personally don't need a specific day to raise awareness of that."

That's great for you and in a ideal world no one would need a day to raise awareness for anything that should be socially accepted but don't stamp over every one else just because "you don't need a day"

I'm bisexual all year too, doesn't mean I won't support those around me that made need that extra support to feel included or accepted.

Perfect world it is not.....

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

" but surely the better thing to do would be to promote awareness and acceptance every day, and always feel that having specific "days" whilst providing that focal point, somewhat detracts and dilutes it and leaves it forgotten as we move onto the next "day"."

How would that work in practice?

I mean, it wouldn't. No one can possibly take time every day to remind themselves of all the many various issues in the world.

The reason we have individual days to highlight issues/causes it because they don't get talked about in the normal course of things.

Your suggestion would just mean they don't get talked about at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well done

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By *affeine DuskMan
over a year ago

Caerphilly

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Back of the bins.

Hello! We’re both Bi here!

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I'm bisexual 365 days of the year and personally don't need a specific day to raise awareness of that.

I'm bisexual all year too, doesn't mean I won't support those around me that made need that extra support to feel included or accepted.

Perfect world it is not....."

Who said anything about "stamping" on anything? I raised a valid point about the dilution of the message because there are so many "days" these days, and at the same time acknowledged the need for raising awareness/acceptance, and stated quite clearly that I can see their value for providing a focal point - I'd hardly call that stamping on anything.

My point was, and still is that we have so many "days" that the message *does* get diluted and lost because we seem to move from one to the other without actually pausing to take stock and really think about that day and the meaning of it and so the message and intent gets lost somewhat in my view.

As I said I'm all for raising awareness and acceptance, lord knows I've been one of the biggest advocates of bisexuality round here in my time - I just don't personally agree with the notion of "days" for it either.

And of course there is no easy answer or alternative, I'm not suggesting there is and never have done.

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By *lasphemouscoupleCouple
over a year ago

Cambridgeshire

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By *affeine DuskMan
over a year ago

Caerphilly

I'm bisexual 365 days of the year and personally don't need a specific day to raise awareness of that.

I'm bisexual all year too, doesn't mean I won't support those around me that made need that extra support to feel included or accepted.

Perfect world it is not.....

And of course there is no easy answer or alternative, I'm not suggesting there is and never have done.

That's cool.

I like the days. I like pride. I like the visibility of the sentiment.

But it's not for everyone I guess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi and proud. Although bi play is a distant memory

Just need to find the right couple

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

How would that work in practice?

I mean, it wouldn't. No one can possibly take time every day to remind themselves of all the many various issues in the world.

The reason we have individual days to highlight issues/causes it because they don't get talked about in the normal course of things.

Your suggestion would just mean they don't get talked about at all. "

Sadly there is no perfect answer because it isn't a perfect world and never will be - but just as you say it's not possible to remind yourself of all the various issues in the world each and every day, by highlighting one specific issue on one specific day, how much is the message *really* being got across to those that the message *really* needs to be got across to? Most people not connected who hear about "Bisexual Visibility Day" today will have forgotten it even existed tomorrow when they are hearing about "World Red Panda Day" or whatever it is.

Like I've said I'm not detracting from the message or the need, and I don't think there is a perfect answer I just wonder about the true value of having "days" for anything and everything

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

That's cool.

I like the days. I like pride. I like the visibility of the sentiment.

But it's not for everyone I guess."

Believe it or not I actually like Pride because it's become more of a celebration than anything and I don't see it as a "day" as such

And yes there are "days" like Rememberance Sunday which are important and valid - I just think we have so many "days" these days that their message and intent gets diluted as I said above.

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By *affeine DuskMan
over a year ago

Caerphilly

That's cool.

I like the days. I like pride. I like the visibility of the sentiment.

But it's not for everyone I guess.

Believe it or not I actually like Pride because it's become more of a celebration than anything and I don't see it as a "day" as such

And yes there are "days" like Rememberance Sunday which are important and valid - I just think we have so many "days" these days that their message and intent gets diluted as I said above."

Fair point.

But y'know, you are talking about Bi visibility day.

So it has kinda worked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe the message will get lost in the ether, maybe it won't touch the billions of people that it needs to but if it gets across to one, just one person that what they are thinking and feeling is okay and accepted. That there are others around who think the same way, then surely the value is never lost because to that one person, it's the biggest thing in the world and who is anyone else to argue with that?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

How would that work in practice?

I mean, it wouldn't. No one can possibly take time every day to remind themselves of all the many various issues in the world.

The reason we have individual days to highlight issues/causes it because they don't get talked about in the normal course of things.

Your suggestion would just mean they don't get talked about at all.

Like I've said I'm not detracting from the message or the need, and I don't think there is a perfect answer I just wonder about the true value of having "days" for anything and everything "

It's quite reasonable to believe that having 'days' does not perfectly solve a problem. Of course they don't.

But the answer to that is not to abolish having specific days and hope people take up talking about the issues more regularly of their own accord. That just wouldn't happen.

And why do I get the feeling if there was, for example, a weekly thread on here reminding people about bi issues that you'd be in there with 'why do we need to talk about this every week!'?

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By *edeWoman
over a year ago

the abyss

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

That's cool.

I like the days. I like pride. I like the visibility of the sentiment.

But it's not for everyone I guess.

Believe it or not I actually like Pride because it's become more of a celebration than anything and I don't see it as a "day" as such

And yes there are "days" like Rememberance Sunday which are important and valid - I just think we have so many "days" these days that their message and intent gets diluted as I said above.

Fair point.

But y'know, you are talking about Bi visibility day.

So it has kinda worked.

Nah it's got me talking about the value of "days"

I may be Gemini but was born on the cusp of Taurus so I can be a stubborn bugger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Was straight when I was younger

Was bi when I was in my late teens

Was gay when I was in my early 20s

And in a loving f/f relationship

Now I'm bi and in a relationship with my bf

So I'm not confused at all lol

Just bi

This pretty much mirrors my experience.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

It's quite reasonable to believe that having 'days' does not perfectly solve a problem. Of course they don't.

But the answer to that is not to abolish having specific days and hope people take up talking about the issues more regularly of their own accord. That just wouldn't happen.

And why do I get the feeling if there was, for example, a weekly thread on here reminding people about bi issues that you'd be in there with 'why do we need to talk about this every week!'?

Where did I say anything about "abolishing" anything? I've even said several times now that I acknowledge that having "days" provides a focal point.

The point you appear to be missing and that I have been trying to make is how much "value" having such "days" actually has, because there *are* so many of them their message becomes diluted and lost as we move on to the next one - yes they may show someone finding their way that it's ok to be bi, and that's great, but for the people that really need to "get" the message those that need to accept and be aware I'm not sure they have any value.

As for your last point, you obviously don't know me that well, as I can regularly be found on bisexual threads advocating that very subject

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

For those who need it, you're here, you're queer, and you deserve to be seen as your authentic self. Safe, loved, and equal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For those who need it, you're here, you're queer, and you deserve to be seen as your authentic self. Safe, loved, and equal.

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By *affeine DuskMan
over a year ago

Caerphilly

That's cool.

I like the days. I like pride. I like the visibility of the sentiment.

But it's not for everyone I guess.

Believe it or not I actually like Pride because it's become more of a celebration than anything and I don't see it as a "day" as such

And yes there are "days" like Rememberance Sunday which are important and valid - I just think we have so many "days" these days that their message and intent gets diluted as I said above.

Fair point.

But y'know, you are talking about Bi visibility day.

So it has kinda worked.

Nah it's got me talking about the value of "days"

I may be Gemini but was born on the cusp of Taurus so I can be a stubborn bugger

...I thought that was your first name

Way I see it, man... you, and to a way lesser extent me, we have a strong enough voice, y'know? Didn't happen overnight.

Some don't have that voice yet. So they might see a silly Facebook post about this day, might make them feel more normal. That's worth the day.

And it doesn't change our day. We're still here with our arses out because alliteration for some reason.

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By *uzie69xTV/TS
over a year ago

Maidstone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t feel I really need a day or a voice or to stand up and shout it out. I don’t feel different or not accepted. I don’t really think about it. I am what I am and I quite like me. That’s enough for me. If I wanted to tell people I would but I don’t tell people about any men I might meet either, it’s private. I guess if people need a day for it though and it helps it’s all good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both fully bi here

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I also know I speak with some privilege here, and from a female bi perspective, which comes with privilege in this microcosm.

I don't know how best to amplify the voices of those who are non cis and/ or whose attraction lies outside the gender binary. But I see you too. Solidarity

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

Good evening everyone

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Much love xx

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By *layPrincessDaddyBearCouple
over a year ago

Bracknell

Bi female here xx wouldn’t want to be any other way xxx

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By *uriousBiSiMan
over a year ago

aldershot

"Prefer Pansexual these days but certainly Bi previously, so have a great day, you greedy people

Pansexual?

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Prefer Pansexual these days but certainly Bi previously, so have a great day, you greedy people

Pansexual?"

At the risk of speaking out of turn, being bi... I believe it's about attraction regardless of gender, recognising gender beyond the binary. It can be seen as a subset or offshoot of bisexuality. And can be seen as more inclusive than bisexuality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

day for me

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By *oneyCPL8484Couple
over a year ago

Gosport

Nice message. We're sort of open amongst friends and certain family. We say sort of as we have kids and like you said People!!!

People will beat you over the head with anything they dont understand outside their tiny and restricted minds. If only they knew

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Nice message. We're sort of open amongst friends and certain family. We say sort of as we have kids and like you said People!!!

People will beat you over the head with anything they dont understand outside their tiny and restricted minds. If only they knew

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pansexual here.

Was attracted to females first, lucky enough to be fully out the closet and accepted by all that know me.

They wouldnt bat an eyelid if I had a girlfriend, boyfriend or a trans lover

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi here....it was one of the best things that I discovered about myself during and after my major meltdown...it reduced my anger levels and brought me out of the shadows.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's quite reasonable to believe that having 'days' does not perfectly solve a problem. Of course they don't.

But the answer to that is not to abolish having specific days and hope people take up talking about the issues more regularly of their own accord. That just wouldn't happen.

And why do I get the feeling if there was, for example, a weekly thread on here reminding people about bi issues that you'd be in there with 'why do we need to talk about this every week!'?

Where did I say anything about "abolishing" anything? I've even said several times now that I acknowledge that having "days" provides a focal point.

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think this thread, along with some of the statistics published yesterday by a number of queer organisations, proves that there's still a lot of work to do for representation of all aspects of the the LGBT+ rainbow, and that all deserve to be seen and uplifted.

I use my voice and my intersectional privilege to uplift those I can. Always.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"I think this thread, along with some of the statistics published yesterday by a number of queer organisations, proves that there's still a lot of work to do for representation of all aspects of the the LGBT+ rainbow, and that all deserve to be seen and uplifted.

I use my voice and my intersectional privilege to uplift those I can. Always."

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

Ugh if I have to!

*removes invisibility cloak*

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Ugh if I have to!

*removes invisibility cloak*"

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By *iddlesticksMan
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

Oops forgot to pop in yesterday. Would it be ok if I introduced my extremely manly bisexuality at this juncture.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So liberating I find- being no that is!

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Oops forgot to pop in yesterday. Would it be ok if I introduced my extremely manly bisexuality at this juncture.

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By *iddlesticksMan
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

"Oops forgot to pop in yesterday. Would it be ok if I introduced my extremely manly bisexuality at this juncture.

Shall we find us a man

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Oops forgot to pop in yesterday. Would it be ok if I introduced my extremely manly bisexuality at this juncture.

Shall we find us a man

Ooh yes please. Man sandwich

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So liberating I find- being no that is!"

How can spellcheck turn “bi” into “no”??? Is this another sign of endemic bias??

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So liberating I find- being no that is!

How can spellcheck turn “bi” into “no”??? Is this another sign of endemic bias??"

I did wonder

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So liberating I find- being no that is!

How can spellcheck turn “bi” into “no”??? Is this another sign of endemic bias??

I did wonder

I guess I should use the preview option in future

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By *naswingdress OP Woman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Autocarrot gets the best of us

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I was bi before i knew what bi was. My first sexual experience was with a lad second a girl. Ive always just seen partners as that. I would now describe myself as pan sexual although i prefer the tern just sexual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pansexual

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