FabSwingers.com forum: Why don't women like dating tvs

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

A question for the born females on fab. Why do you not like to date tvs? Is it because we are to much like you? Because of not being manly? Because we may be gay, bisexual? You are worried about sexual health issues? Just curious to know what you really think? Honesty more welcome than being politically correct. Give it to me girls

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

This is a swinging site. Why not ask on a dating site?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know any TV's to be honest.

But I wouldn't rule it out - I'm not looking to meet TV's on Fab but there are a couple of people here that I quite fancy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is a swinging site. Why not ask on a dating site?"

Now now Clem be nice

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts

My only real experience with TV's was in the Sex Work community and I found almost all of them incredibly difficult to work with - entitled, selfish, all "me me me".

Was probably enough to put me off.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"This is a swinging site. Why not ask on a dating site?

Now now Clem be nice

That WAS nice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

because i am not attracted to women..

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

A very valid question about sexuality and attraction. Ignore any sniping comments. If people can open threads about what's for tea or how to fix my car, you have every right to ask what you want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of us do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't...but would if I like them.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Women may want to meet the guy first as crossdressing isn’t the person, that’s just something we’re compelled to do.

I’ve dated loads of women, who were well aware of my crossdressing but it was after they knew me as a guy. My wife enjoyed going out and also sex whilst dressed, others enjoyed going out but no intimacy with it.

But if you’re going to display yourself as a TV / Crossdresser first, then it maybe more difficult than the opposite.

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By *aastyKnixWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"A question for the born females on fab. Why do you not like to date tvs? Is it because we are to much like you? Because of not being manly? Because we may be gay, bisexual? You are worried about sexual health issues? Just curious to know what you really think? Honesty more welcome than being politically correct. Give it to me girls "

Does anyone ever have to explain their preferences?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Because I'm straight.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

I would but I'm not attracted to women so I would want only the man for a sexual relationship.

Id be quite happy to go places with him dressed as a woman on a friends only basis though

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My only real experience with TV's was in the Sex Work community and I found almost all of them incredibly difficult to work with - entitled, selfish, all "me me me".

Was probably enough to put me off. "
but surely if you are providing a paid for service it would be all about them, especially if the wife at home is not aware or does not want to know? Or won't do anything kinky

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

Cos they don't want them stealing there clothes..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"because i am not attracted to women.. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"because i am not attracted to women..

But a tv is a man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1. Don't put us all in 1 group, that is very presumptious of you.

2. Nobody has to explain why they are or are not attracted to anybody.

3. Cross dressers can vary dramatically, am I attracted to a hairy man in knickers and lippy. No.

Am I attracted to someone who puts in time and effort to look good, sometimes.

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Some TVs are very beautiful and there make up and hair and out fits are fabulous ,but there are some ,that need help with everything ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is a swinging site. Why not ask on a dating site?"

That's a bit harsh bearing in mind he is asking female born users. Many of us call meets dates. It's a perfectly fine question to ask here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're getting a bashing. Maybe you would have been better off asking the question without giving us multiple choice answers.

Personally, I find most tvs unattractive as they clearly look like men in women's clothes. It might be something I'd be interested in sexually but that would be as far as it went.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No, of course you don't have to explain your preferences, I am just curious for the reasons, putting politically correct stuff aside. Some interesting comments, and opinions. But surely copying is the sincerest form of flattery, and after all aren't we all mixtures of male and female. It is much more acceptable for a woman to express masculine traits, than for a male to express femenine traits,challenging gender norms.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Quite surprising now how so many born females are wanting to become men. And good luck to them, we all want happiness in life, let's hope the day comes when gender varience is fully accepted and celebrated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most TVs i have seen on here have dicks and boobs. I just don't find it attractive personally. I'm fully straight, I want a dick and a man's chest.

There's not much more to it than that for me!

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By *tarbuck007Man
over a year ago

up2no good

Do tvs have licence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because I have no interest in men dressed as women.

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By *vcarolTV/TS
over a year ago

kilmarnockish

"Because I have no interest in men dressed as women. "

I think you’ll find that each person has the choices and there preference. And it’s about respecting their choice.

Some men go for our type, some hate us, women are the same.

Then there are the undecided.....

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By *ina VonteeseTV/TS
over a year ago

Leicester

I know lots of lovely ladies who are gorgeous fun genuine friend's

I never would dare to date them but its lovely to just chill and have a laugh and banter .

Occasionally things lead to more interaction between us. Never expect never pressure and just enjoy their company.

Some ladies are not interested at all that's fine just respect their views on what they like.

Its no different from anyone else on the scene with preferences .

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Do tvs have licence? "

I do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A massive assumption. Nobody has any idea what most women think, not even the women themselves. They just know what THEY think themselves.....

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By *aastyKnixWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

How about being a bit more positive? Sell the idea.

How about you say what you feel are the reasons anyone would like dating a tv?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because I actually fancy ladies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is obvious ! There are afraid of the competition

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't find them attractive in any way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm just simply not attracted to men dressed as women.

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By *ust_A_Tease_To_PleaseWoman
over a year ago

South Wales: Newport, Chepstow

I'm pan-romantic, but hetrosexual.

Basically I can fall in romantic love with anyone, but only be sexual with men.

So I would be happy to have a wonderful platonic relationship with anyone, including TV's, but I'm only going to be sexually active with cis men.

That's my preference, and I don't speak for all women. I'm sure there are plenty out there who would be totally fine with being sexual with TV's, but like any alternative lifestyle, it's just going to be a smaller pool.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Quite surprising now how so many born females are wanting to become men. And good luck to them, we all want happiness in life, let's hope the day comes when gender varience is fully accepted and celebrated. "

Well said.

Gender clinics are seeing more trans men than women nowadays.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

I would, but I'd have to fancy them in guy mode AND in girl mode.

That's if I was looking to date anyway, and at the moment I'm not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mrs has a fantasy about a 3some with a TV only issue is not local and she would need to be convincing and hot with boobs any out there interested lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about being a bit more positive? Sell the idea.

How about you say what you feel are the reasons anyone would like dating a tv?"

I thought this too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't date a tv who is disrespectful of other tv's. The type who use the term hpw. Or say that if tv's are not 'convincing' they are lesser beings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m not attracted to women. I’ve never met a TV but I like men for their masculinity so can’t imagine ever being attracted to man that dresses as a woman.

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By *urls and DressesWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near here

I’m just genuinely not attracted, my preference. I’d happily socialise and chat etc but sexual relationship, not for me.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I’m just genuinely not attracted, my preference. I’d happily socialise and chat etc but sexual relationship, not for me."

Pretty much this.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

How about being a bit more positive? Sell the idea.

How about you say what you feel are the reasons anyone would like dating a tv?"

This is the crux of the issue for Tgirls on here that are either straight or not, but want to have a relationship with a woman.

A woman that’s never been in a relationship with a TV will always have some misconceptions of what he’d be like. All of my previous relationships weren’t with women looking for a Tgirl but looking for a guy, then found out later I liked to dress. Did they immediately go off and find a ‘real man’ no, I talked through my desires to dress and what it meant to our relationship together.

So she’d know but never see me dressed, I’d go away and dress on my own. Or she’d see me dressed but no sex whilst in female mode or actively get involved as it was an exciting new world being opened up, you know like how some couples decide to start swinging.

What they don’t get, is a guy mincing about wearing eyeliner and lipstick in Male mode. But maybe they get a guy who’s happy to help around the house and fix the car, a guy who actually takes an interest in her fashions but at the same time discuss football if she enjoys sports. But most of all can keep his dressing between them in their relationship.

I’m an ex soldier, marathon runner, who’s rides motorbikes and enjoys football. I don’t present outwardly my crossdressing persona if you don’t know you’d probably not guess. I work and have a decent job and a very good father to my young sons, basically I’m not a bad catch in some ways.

But I could have a lot worse traits that some Men have and if crossdressing is my worst secret then for some women who’ve been in really toxic relationships a guy occasionally slipping into a dress would be a welcome relief to much worse behaviour.

My argument won’t convince any woman on here who doesn’t want a guy expressing a feminine side to his character. They are after what they desire and that should always be respected

But as Tgirls maybe it is down to us to convince those women who are sitting on the fence, maybe we are a new experience and can be the best of both worlds a sensitive guy who’s happy shoe shopping but also change the wheel on the car on the way home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Obviously where trans women are concerned it could be different, but I don't find men who dress like women attractive - unless you're Tim Curry.

I find that a lot of cross dressers dress for the male eye too, almost fetishy, which I have no issue with but I don't find it attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m just genuinely not attracted, my preference. I’d happily socialise and chat etc but sexual relationship, not for me."

Same for me. I’m attracted to men and women but not TVs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Very interesting answers and opinions. The trans community is very diverse and encompasses many different groups. But social stigma still leads to people hiding it all their lives, even from wives and children. I have known people lose wives,girlfriends, children, jobs,and some people to end their lives because of discrimination. There is still a long way to go to get true equality in many aspects.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My last two girlfriends have been from fab, and for the majority of the time I'm in 'regular guy' mode with them, I just have an extra side to me.

So to answer the OP, I assure you there are women out there who date TVs

And to those women who do enjoy the best of both worlds, feel free to say hello

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Very interesting answers and opinions. The trans community is very diverse and encompasses many different groups. But social stigma still leads to people hiding it all their lives, even from wives and children. I have known people lose wives,girlfriends, children, jobs,and some people to end their lives because of discrimination. There is still a long way to go to get true equality in many aspects. "

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/19/what-happens-when-your-partner-comes-out-as-trans

It's a long read but there are great stories and perspectives.

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By *eastAndTheHarlotCouple
over a year ago

Hartlepool

I am a bisexual cis woman.

I'm always a little confused with how fab groups things so if I'm misunderstanding just let me know.

I don't find cross dressing attractive, it's that simple.

Preference isn't a choice just as being gay/straight isn't. We can't change what we're attracted to so don't take it personally.

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

OK so this could be a long one so bare with me on this.

Let's get the first thing out of the way, there are many different levels of what people see as crossdressers and that has the biggest bearing of things for most people regardless of looking to date or not, we are all blanketed under the same banner be it from a guy in his wife's knickers through to those who go out shopping to tesco during the day and who live a lot of the time as a 'female

Trans women I will leave out for this as they are women and not what the OP has asked about.

1, women dating crossdressers.

It does happen and probably more frequently than you think. Some are fully aware and embracing of it yet others may not even know their man is a crossdresser.

I've dated women who know I crossdress and have met them because I am a crossdresser. Honesty about being a crossdresser is key here from the get go.

2, Crossdressers being manly....are you serious? If you met me day to day you wouldnt have a damn clue. The only give away is that I have no body hair but then nor do many men, check out a lot of sportsmen and tell me a footballer, athlete or heavyweight boxer isn't manly.

I've got facial stubble, a deep voice, male physique so nobody is going to know unless I've got make up and a dress on....ask those who know me and they will tell you the transformation is glaring.

3, we may be gay or bisexual.

So may a non crossdressing guy be, your gender has sod all to do with your sexuality. Stereotypes abound here and are often wrong.

Yes I may meet couples but rest assured im coming after the wife and never the husband. I like femininity plain and simple.....I adore women!

As for health and sexual cleanliness, does make up mean im a walking STD? does that even warrant an answer?

As for what women want and look for, that's entirely up to them and there is no single answer at all as its down to personal preference.

Some like alpha males, some like androgynous men, some like effeminate men so that question is moot.

The one thing crossdressing has shown me particularly via FAB is that it is much easier to find women who will like you as a crossdresser but rest assured its because of who you are, not how you are dressed. Crossdressing CAN get you the attention you might be looking for, your personality does the rest.

Ad a side note, my one on one meets have mostly been as a male coming from my crossdressing account and very few have yet to meet Sophie but they will when time allows.

And breathe

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By *uddy and hollyCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

Does this make the lucky one I'm married to a TV/CD and I do understand it's not everybody's cup of tea to be around a guy dressed as a woman believe me it wasn't easy the first time I seen him like that

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

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Hello O.P.

I have a problem with your question.

It seems to be based on the idea that all tv's / ts's are male.

I deduced that because you address the question to women.

Also .... a few posts down you claim surprise at 'just how many women there are wanting to be men' ..... why the surprise? It's not something new.

To answer your Q from my own perspective it wouldn't bother me remotely to date a T.V. In fact quite a few of them are creative, exciting, interesting, arty , bold , highly sexual.

Some just look like blokes in frocks.

I'm not into the ones that think being a woman means looking like a two bit hooker in her little sisters skirt , size 12 shoes and being and entrant in the 'How thick, bright and trashy' make up competition.

The ones that are truly convincing and beautiful wouldn't appeal to me either - not when made up anyway. As a bloke they might.

T.S's are a different kettle of fish altogether. They become women. So .... no interest sexually on my part.

I don't think TV/TS is a good enough label to attach to the wide variety of genders / genderless humans out there.

Cutting to the quick .... in the end it's the person not the gender or the look. If I fancy and fall then I fancy n fall. The rest can be dealt with.

Do I go looking for problems ? NOPE.

I quite fancy Grayson Perry. Used to fancy Eddie Izzard.....

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

P.S. Is Grayson Perry pretty ? / Handsome ?

Nope ...... but I fancy him

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It's a extremely complicated issue, where you have to be careful about the terms used, and now it includes non binary as well. But I was trying to keep it as simple,as possible so people would not be afraid to post a honest reply.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"It's a extremely complicated issue, where you have to be careful about the terms used, and now it includes non binary as well. But I was trying to keep it as simple,as possible so people would not be afraid to post a honest reply. "

I think it's a good Q Shirley.

Food for thought. Most of us aren't aware of our un conscious bias

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

"A massive assumption. Nobody has any idea what most women think, not even the women themselves. They just know what THEY think themselves....."

Its a good job we know you didn't mean that!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"A massive assumption. Nobody has any idea what most women think, not even the women themselves. They just know what THEY think themselves.....

Its a good job we know you didn't mean that! "

You think you know what he means even when he doesn't mean it that the women think they know what they think when they thought it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I have learnt from being trans, all my life, is that I will never understand the female thoughts process, because I was born male, and as such was programmed by society with male ideology. I don't know what it's like to have periods, or what it's like to give birth, have stretch marks, or a vagina. I can see where femenists are coming from, about what makes a woman, and I dare say I will be pilloried for saying it. But in the womb we are all subjected to hormones, which influence our development and sexuality, could it be we are your sisters under the skin? And either way I have great respect for females, and their rights, and would not intentionally be offensive by stating a hypothesis. Perhaps trans is between male and female, like in India with the hijra, trans women. Controversial I know

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Feminists ??

That's not a feminist stance per se.

That's a stance without gender or politics.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Listen to germain grear, they no platform her at university talks, but she is entitled to express her opinion, in a free country. Same with j k Rowling,who isn't transphobic,she is just saying what a lot of women think. It doesn't advance the trans cause by villiffying women who have a opinion, same with Mary beard. But Julie bindel is very offensive.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Listen to germain grear, they no platform her at university talks, but she is entitled to express her opinion, in a free country. Same with j k Rowling,who isn't transphobic,she is just saying what a lot of women think. It doesn't advance the trans cause by villiffying women who have a opinion, same with Mary beard. But Julie bindel is very offensive. "

Well that's two women, who just happen to be feminists......... just two.

It's not part of any feminist group's ideology. Why attach it to feminists ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think germain grear qualifies as a femenist, ha ha, she wrote the female eunuch, a seminal work, of femenism

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about being a bit more positive? Sell the idea.

How about you say what you feel are the reasons anyone would like dating a tv?

This is the crux of the issue for Tgirls on here that are either straight or not, but want to have a relationship with a woman.

My argument won’t convince any woman on here who doesn’t want a guy expressing a feminine side to his character. They are after what they desire and that should always be respected

Great explanation Steph!

And OP, some of us women do date TV’s. Some of us even go on to marry them x

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I think germain grear qualifies as a femenist, ha ha, she wrote the female eunuch, a seminal work, of femenism "

Yes. Right.

So because Germaine is a feminist you think that all feminists agree with what she says ? So weird... You think that you can't be a feminist unless you hold Germaine's viewpoint on everything from gender re assignment to cheese ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No, but germain grear is the most well-known femenist. And just has femenist vary, so do trans, people, other than gender varience, you might have nothing else in common.

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By *ustyMilfxxxCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

"A very valid question about sexuality and attraction. Ignore any sniping comments. If people can open threads about what's for tea or how to fix my car, you have every right to ask what you want."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me I just don’t have any attraction towards TVs.

I like men to be very manly.

And the woman I like I prefer large curves that’s something that TVs can not achieve.

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By *aastyKnixWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

The OP asks, why don't women like dating TVs?

Well,there are at least two different scenarios I can envisage here.

Finding out that a partner likes to cross dress.

Specifically looking for a TV to date.

I imagine the first scenario would be quite easy to cope with. What's the harm,after all?

The second scenario? Definitely not for me. I suppose it's not unheard of,just seems unlikely.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

How about being a bit more positive? Sell the idea.

How about you say what you feel are the reasons anyone would like dating a tv?

This is the crux of the issue for Tgirls on here that are either straight or not, but want to have a relationship with a woman.

My argument won’t convince any woman on here who doesn’t want a guy expressing a feminine side to his character. They are after what they desire and that should always be respected

Thank you for this: rare to find a post to make me think/rethink!

I'm guilty of having a stereotypical view ie "mincing around in lipstick" whilst dressed as a man. Yes, that wouldn't be for me but a man who's in touch with his feminine side whilst saving me from tarantulas and wasps the size of chinooks...oooh...Yes please!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The OP asks, why don't women like dating TVs?

Well,there are at least two different scenarios I can envisage here.

Finding out that a partner likes to cross dress.

Specifically looking for a TV to date.

I imagine the first scenario would be quite easy to cope with. What's the harm,after all?

The second scenario? Definitely not for me. I suppose it's not unheard of,just seems unlikely. "

I think that's a really good point!

Maybe if the person is all about being TV, that's what puts some people off. Same as if a person was all about being into football (for example) and nothing else mattered.

If the person liked a bit of sport and a bit of theatre and a bit of gigs, it's different.

I don't think I've explained that well at all, sorry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The OP asks, why don't women like dating TVs?

Well,there are at least two different scenarios I can envisage here.

Finding out that a partner likes to cross dress.

Specifically looking for a TV to date.

I imagine the first scenario would be quite easy to cope with. What's the harm,after all?

The second scenario? Definitely not for me. I suppose it's not unheard of,just seems unlikely.

I think that's a really good point!

Maybe if the person is all about being TV, that's what puts some people off. Same as if a person was all about being into football (for example) and nothing else mattered.

If the person liked a bit of sport and a bit of theatre and a bit of gigs, it's different.

I don't think I've explained that well at all, sorry. "

I understood what you meant

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"The OP asks, why don't women like dating TVs?

Well,there are at least two different scenarios I can envisage here.

Finding out that a partner likes to cross dress.

Specifically looking for a TV to date.

I imagine the first scenario would be quite easy to cope with. What's the harm,after all?

The second scenario? Definitely not for me. I suppose it's not unheard of,just seems unlikely.

I think that's a really good point!

Maybe if the person is all about being TV, that's what puts some people off. Same as if a person was all about being into football (for example) and nothing else mattered.

If the person liked a bit of sport and a bit of theatre and a bit of gigs, it's different.

I don't think I've explained that well at all, sorry. "

I know what you mean.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

"The OP asks, why don't women like dating TVs?

Well,there are at least two different scenarios I can envisage here.

Finding out that a partner likes to cross dress.

Specifically looking for a TV to date.

I imagine the first scenario would be quite easy to cope with. What's the harm,after all?

The second scenario? Definitely not for me. I suppose it's not unheard of,just seems unlikely.

I think that's a really good point!

Maybe if the person is all about being TV, that's what puts some people off. Same as if a person was all about being into football (for example) and nothing else mattered.

If the person liked a bit of sport and a bit of theatre and a bit of gigs, it's different.

I don't think I've explained that well at all, sorry. "

I think you make an important point. I have met girls for whom their life is being TV, and being TV is their entire life. They have trans friends, go to trans events, talk about matters of trans interest, wear trans clothes... On the other hand for some of us being trans is just one aspect of who we are. We have friends, go to events, talk about matters of interest, wear clothes... I see myself as a person who happens to be trans, but being trans is not the whole of my life...

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

How about being a bit more positive? Sell the idea.

How about you say what you feel are the reasons anyone would like dating a tv?

This is the crux of the issue for Tgirls on here that are either straight or not, but want to have a relationship with a woman.

My argument won’t convince any woman on here who doesn’t want a guy expressing a feminine side to his character. They are after what they desire and that should always be respected

Thank you for this: rare to find a post to make me think/rethink!

Thanks for this, as it takes time to try and write something and try not to be patronising or belittling other peoples perspectives. So the fact it made you reconsider some of your concerns, means it was worth writing.

It should also be noted, the reason I joined up, took up boxing whilst in the Army and played rugby (not football thats for sissies

) as when I was younger I’d fight those feelings by trying to be ultra macho, ensure I matched up or bettered other guys. Knowing I had a softer side within that needed expressing outwardly.

Me and my Wife (16 years together) didn’t split up over my crossdressing, in fact she admitted missed my feedback over clothes and borrowing my makeup

but other reasons that long term couples go through.

My crossdressed self is a completely different part of my personality and can only be shared with those I truly feel comfortable with. A partner would always have the right to be totally separate from that part or join in. Just like any hobby if you’re both into it (like swinging) then a new life and interests can be discovered, life’s about new experiences

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

"The OP asks, why don't women like dating TVs?

Well,there are at least two different scenarios I can envisage here.

Finding out that a partner likes to cross dress.

Specifically looking for a TV to date.

I imagine the first scenario would be quite easy to cope with. What's the harm,after all?

The second scenario? Definitely not for me. I suppose it's not unheard of,just seems unlikely.

I think that's a really good point!

Maybe if the person is all about being TV, that's what puts some people off. Same as if a person was all about being into football (for example) and nothing else mattered.

If the person liked a bit of sport and a bit of theatre and a bit of gigs, it's different.

I don't think I've explained that well at all, sorry. "

Explained terribly but totally understood

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

I like men in some womens clothing, but I'm not a fan of a faceful of make up on men or women (or myself) so while I admire the time and skill involved I've never found that kind of TV sexually attractive.

Never say never tho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The OP asks, why don't women like dating TVs?

Well,there are at least two different scenarios I can envisage here.

Finding out that a partner likes to cross dress.

Specifically looking for a TV to date.

I imagine the first scenario would be quite easy to cope with. What's the harm,after all?

The second scenario? Definitely not for me. I suppose it's not unheard of,just seems unlikely.

I think that's a really good point!

Maybe if the person is all about being TV, that's what puts some people off. Same as if a person was all about being into football (for example) and nothing else mattered.

If the person liked a bit of sport and a bit of theatre and a bit of gigs, it's different.

I don't think I've explained that well at all, sorry.

Perfectly explained Polly! That goes for Abby too. Mostly we lead a normal life together but it’s always handy if I’ve run out of nail Polish or need some stockings!

Hope you’re keeping well x

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By *ightowlingWoman
over a year ago

Near Taunton

This is the way I feel:

Why do you not like to date tvs? Because I'm attracted to men, and I like them to look like men. I wouldn't find my/a man dressed as a woman attractive.

Is it because we are to much like you? No

Because of not being manly? Yes

Because we may be gay, bisexual? The above is the main reason, I don't know if TVs are gay/bi or if it varies by individual.

You are worried about sexual health issues? Now you mention it, maybe, if you're meeting men.

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over a year ago

"This is the way I feel:

Why do you not like to date tvs? Because I'm attracted to men, and I like them to look like men. I wouldn't find my/a man dressed as a woman attractive.

Is it because we are to much like you? No

Because of not being manly? Yes

Because we may be gay, bisexual? The above is the main reason, I don't know if TVs are gay/bi or if it varies by individual.

You are worried about sexual health issues? Now you mention it, maybe, if you're meeting men. "

Can I ask out of genuine interest, what is the difference between a female meeting a male and a TV meeting a male for sexual purposes?

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over a year ago

"This is the way I feel:

Why do you not like to date tvs? Because I'm attracted to men, and I like them to look like men. I wouldn't find my/a man dressed as a woman attractive.

Is it because we are to much like you? No

Because of not being manly? Yes

Because we may be gay, bisexual? The above is the main reason, I don't know if TVs are gay/bi or if it varies by individual.

You are worried about sexual health issues? Now you mention it, maybe, if you're meeting men.

Can I ask out of genuine interest, what is the difference between a female meeting a male and a TV meeting a male for sexual purposes?

Sorry, should add that the question is in reply to your answer about sexual health worries.

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

I've had sex with women and couples in swingers clubs, there are some women that find us attractive sexually and some that don't. Just like any other preference. As for dating well that's a different matter. My ex wife knew all about Lisa from day one and was happy with it but it was me, as a man, she lived with the majority of the time. When we visited swingers clubs or met other couples at home I was always Lisa then. Unless you live full time as a girl then any woman, who could accept cross dressing, has still got to be attracted to the "man" underneath first and foremost when it comes to dating.

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By *ightowlingWoman
over a year ago

Near Taunton

"This is the way I feel:

Why do you not like to date tvs? Because I'm attracted to men, and I like them to look like men. I wouldn't find my/a man dressed as a woman attractive.

Is it because we are to much like you? No

Because of not being manly? Yes

Because we may be gay, bisexual? The above is the main reason, I don't know if TVs are gay/bi or if it varies by individual.

You are worried about sexual health issues? Now you mention it, maybe, if you're meeting men.

Can I ask out of genuine interest, what is the difference between a female meeting a male and a TV meeting a male for sexual purposes?

Sorry, should add that the question is in reply to your answer about sexual health worries."

There shouldn't be, I know. It's a crappy preconception that men are more likely to engage in high risk behaviour. Rationally I know that's not true for all men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've had sex with women and couples in swingers clubs, there are some women that find us attractive sexually and some that don't. Just like any other preference. As for dating well that's a different matter. My ex wife knew all about Lisa from day one and was happy with it but it was me, as a man, she lived with the majority of the time. When we visited swingers clubs or met other couples at home I was always Lisa then. Unless you live full time as a girl then any woman, who could accept cross dressing, has still got to be attracted to the "man" underneath first and foremost when it comes to dating. "

That last sentence is so true Lisa. I wouldn’t be comfortable with “Abby” taking over altogether. I still need the male that I met and fell in love with. Luckily over time we have got it right.

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

"I don't know any TV's to be honest.

But I wouldn't rule it out - I'm not looking to meet TV's on Fab but there are a couple of people here that I quite fancy

Hopes xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a sexy couple on here and the guy is a TV.

I'm sure there are plenty more.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Some TV's are very fortunate to have supportive wives and girlfriends and family members, but a lot don't. For some women it's definitely a deal breaker, I have been dumped immediately for being honest, on fourth date. One burst in to tears. Men definitely have more issues with it, I was outed at work, and got lots of abuse and sexual innuendo. But it's best to be honest, than live a lie.

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Ok here’s my thoughts, I’ve been a bit of a play around man, I have been pretty bad and very unfaithful. Now I’m a tv I still love women and am so attracted to a bald pussy, tattoos mmmmmmm. Pierced nipples mmmmmm too.,.i love dressing and started very late in life, mainly through depression anger issues, medication etc, they give guys like me estrogen to counter act the excessive testosterone, this I feel more feminine now..

I’ve been very very ill and therapy even gave me a stroke...

Life’s been very difficult over last few years, but hey I’m still here.

I love life now..

I love being alive, being here for my wife my kids etc, I’m human first..

Now I adore the female form, but I don’t get erections now, so I’m mostly useless to females now,that’s not my fault, it’s life and hard facts.

But I still enjoy the thought and my imagination is still full or eroticism.

Don’t paint TV’s as bad press..

I’d date women if I could, wife isn’t bothered about sexanymore, but my magic pills help.

If I had the opportunity to meet any ladies off here I would very much like to do that

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By *unmatt888Man
over a year ago

Duns

"This is the way I feel:

Why do you not like to date tvs? Because I'm attracted to men, and I like them to look like men. I wouldn't find my/a man dressed as a woman attractive.

Is it because we are to much like you? No

Because of not being manly? Yes

Because we may be gay, bisexual? The above is the main reason, I don't know if TVs are gay/bi or if it varies by individual.

You are worried about sexual health issues? Now you mention it, maybe, if you're meeting men.

Can I ask out of genuine interest, what is the difference between a female meeting a male and a TV meeting a male for sexual purposes?

Sorry, should add that the question is in reply to your answer about sexual health worries.

There shouldn't be, I know. It's a crappy preconception that men are more likely to engage in high risk behaviour. Rationally I know that's not true for all men. "

It's more just that men - on the whole - are far less discerning than women when it comes to casual sex partners, and thus the average gay/bi man will have had more sexual partners than the average straight man. Every extra person is an increased risk, hence the greater prevalence in the MSM population as a whole.

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By *arnsley guy100Man
over a year ago

Sheffield

I can't believe the question has been asked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't believe the question has been asked"

What question is that?

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

That last sentence is so true Lisa. I wouldn’t be comfortable with “Abby” taking over altogether. I still need the male that I met and fell in love with. Luckily over time we have got it right.

Absolutely right. I was together with my ex for 17 years and I told her about Lisa (well I was called Tanya then but that's irrelevant!) from day 1 as I can't live a lie or deceive someone. I'd say 95% of the time I was the guy she fell in love with but she also loved Lisa/Tanya too. We split up 3 years ago (nothing to do with the cross dressing) but we are still great friends and still go out clothes shopping etc together.

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over a year ago

That last sentence is so true Lisa. I wouldn’t be comfortable with “Abby” taking over altogether. I still need the male that I met and fell in love with. Luckily over time we have got it right.

Honesty is always best. We know many TV’s who sadly have to live a double life but that’s another thread altogether!

Glad you’ve remained friends

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Some interesting points of view. Think a lot of people still cling to the old stereotypes, but ultimately its down to the person.

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