FabSwingers.com forum: Why do straight men contact Tgirls?

By *isaAndNicoleTrans OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

Yesterday I had over 20 messages from "straight" men that according to their profiles are only looking for women or couples and not looking for TVs. Happens pretty much everyday. Personally it makes me feel second rate and a dirty secret that's something that guys are ashamed of. Obviously I don't message them back. Why can't people be more honest on here?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yesterday I had over 20 messages from "straight" men that according to their profiles are only looking for women or couples and not looking for TVs. Happens pretty much everyday. Personally it makes me feel second rate and a dirty secret that's something that guys are ashamed of. Obviously I don't message them back. Why can't people be more honest on here? "

Sorry about that

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By *isaAndNicoleTrans OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

Sorry about that

Just for that I'm going to look at your profile. I know how much you like that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont get this either, just be honest with yourselves. I'm properly miffed at the guys who's profile has some variation of 'gay 4 straight'. What is the fascination with meeting straight men? And are they really straight if they do meet someone of the same gender for sex?

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

I am a bi man/ TV, I have sex with a lot of "straight" men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s a strange one. I class myself as straight because I don’t find blokes attractive at all, yet sometimes fantasise about tgirls because it’s the fun of experimenting with different genitalia while still retaining the femininity that I find attractive. I wouldn’t let it make you feel second rate in any way, I certainly don’t look at tgirls as second rate anyway. I suppose it’s just a different fantasy that takes hold once every so often that only is possible with tgirls. That’s my tuppence worth anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry about that

Just for that I'm going to look at your profile. I know how much you like that

Touché’

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe their curious and not ready to admit to a label? Want to explore first.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe their curious and not ready to admit to a label? Want to explore first. "

They're

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because they're not straight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a bi man/ TV, I have sex with a lot of "straight" men "
Charlie is that you?

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By *isstinseltoesWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

Hi op

I don't think you're second rate,

Some will think being honest would cut their chance of meets.

So they leave themselves as straight just in case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get lots of messages from so called married straight men I do ask why they’re interested in me rather than a real girl the answers I get I won’t repeat but it’s usually the same few answers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Curious aren't they?

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By *isaAndNicoleTrans OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

"Hi op

I don't think you're second rate,

Some will think being honest would cut their chance of meets.

So they leave themselves as straight just in case. "

I think that's what I meant by second rate. I've had guys say that they don't want to admit they are bi on here as it "spoils their chances with women"

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By *andyMinx_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds

"Hi op

I don't think you're second rate,

Some will think being honest would cut their chance of meets.

So they leave themselves as straight just in case.

I think that's what I meant by second rate. I've had guys say that they don't want to admit they are bi on here as it "spoils their chances with women"

Some time ago, I had someone who asked me not to verify them on here for that very reason

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't necessarily think it's due to you being 2nd rate or that they are embarrassed by you, I think they are fighting their own demons and in denial about what they find attractive or what fantasies they have

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

You aren't second rate, you are on fab not hiding who you are or what you want, if they can't do the same then they aren't worthy of your time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They’re not straight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Curious aren't they? "

This....

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By *isaAndNicoleTrans OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

"Curious aren't they? "

Some definitely yes, I guess, but others claim to be very Tgirl experienced but don't want to publicise it. It's like they are ashamed of it. And there's the straight guys on here who have bi profiles on Fabguys! Not you Nippy by the way. But surely those guys are also deceiving all the women and couples on here too?

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

When I first joined fab, I would say "you do realise I'm a T girl" or "have you met a T girl before"

The reply would always be yes I've met loads???.

I generally don't answer them now, as the message is usually less than 3 words.

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

Ok, I've said this before on similar threads. I like women or trans women. It's femininity that excites me. On fab, I have three labels to choose from, gay, bi, straight. I don't find guy's attract me, so I say not gay. If I was bi-sexual and didn't want guys, so I hit "straight".

I suppose if fab offered a "nearly straight" label, I'd be fine with that. I really don't know why people find it difficult. I don't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s certainly is strange, heres my view I’ve openly dated trans women and family friends know etc I often make a habit of letting people know I like a women with a penis it’s that’s simple. But I wouldn’t class myself as gay what so ever because I don’t find men/manliness/masculinity attractive in the slightest but I like cock am I allowed to like cock and not be gay who knows but tbh I don’t care ?????. But everyone would “label” me as gay because of this. Just my ten pence worth

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Because they can and will and do now if we reply its up to us

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant

Straight men don't.

Bi men that say they are straight, do.

Fab straight, will.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Straight men don't.

Bi men that say they are straight, do.

Fab straight, will."

Straight men do

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant

"Straight men don't.

Bi men that say they are straight, do.

Fab straight, will.

Straight men do"

You would know better than me, but I would suggest they aren't.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Straight men don't.

Bi men that say they are straight, do.

Fab straight, will.

Straight men do

You would know better than me, but I would suggest they aren't. "

But why do we need label's

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

On my profile, I clearly show, I have veris from transgirls. I also have the filter for "no single guys" on too

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"On my profile, I clearly show, I have veris from transgirls. I also have the filter for "no single guys" on too

So what do you want flowers?

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

"On my profile, I clearly show, I have veris from transgirls. I also have the filter for "no single guys" on too

So what do you want flowers?"

From you?

Hell yes! You've pulled!

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By *ransistersTV/TS
over a year ago

Dover

We mostly attract straight guys, take it as a compliment. Labels mean absolutely nothing on here and probably just as well.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"We mostly attract straight guys, take it as a compliment. Labels mean absolutely nothing on here and probably just as well."

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant

"Straight men don't.

Bi men that say they are straight, do.

Fab straight, will.

Straight men do

You would know better than me, but I would suggest they aren't.

But why do we need label's "

I can only talk for myself. I have no inclination for cock. Just has no appeal. I have no problem with anybody's sexualitiy, I have played with couples with a bi male, all attention on the female. Just not my thing. Label me as straight. Quite happy with that label. If others don't need one, then that's their prerogative.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Well maybe the guys are lying to themselves or dont want to shout about what they do it's their business

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

"Straight men don't.

Bi men that say they are straight, do.

Fab straight, will.

Straight men do

You would know better than me, but I would suggest they aren't.

But why do we need label's

If you choose straight label,great. Some people think it makes you bi if you get in a mmf. Whether you touch or not. That's why I don't label

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant

"Straight men don't.

Bi men that say they are straight, do.

Fab straight, will.

Straight men do

You would know better than me, but I would suggest they aren't.

But why do we need label's

If you choose straight label,great. Some people think it makes you bi if you get in a mmf. Whether you touch or not. That's why I don't label

I would agree with you in a mmf, but I play mfm. Perhaps that's another label, but widely recognised.

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

"Straight men don't.

Bi men that say they are straight, do.

Fab straight, will.

Straight men do

You would know better than me, but I would suggest they aren't.

But why do we need label's

If you choose straight label,great. Some people think it makes you bi if you get in a mmf. Whether you touch or not. That's why I don't label

I would agree with you in a mmf, but I play mfm. Perhaps that's another label, but widely recognised. "

Yeah, buts let's face it, two nekid guy's in the same room!

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

"Straight men don't.

Bi men that say they are straight, do.

Fab straight, will.

Straight men do

You would know better than me, but I would suggest they aren't.

But why do we need label's

If you choose straight label,great. Some people think it makes you bi if you get in a mmf. Whether you touch or not. That's why I don't label

I would agree with you in a mmf, but I play mfm. Perhaps that's another label, but widely recognised.

Yeah, buts let's face it, two nekid guy's in the same room!

Is it to see another guy's cock? With a bi man. Even I'm lost now

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By *isaAndNicoleTrans OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

"Ok, I've said this before on similar threads. I like women or trans women. It's femininity that excites me. On fab, I have three labels to choose from, gay, bi, straight. I don't find guy's attract me, so I say not gay. If I was bi-sexual and didn't want guys, so I hit "straight".

I suppose if fab offered a "nearly straight" label, I'd be fine with that. I really don't know why people find it difficult. I don't

Your profile is not a problem whether you define yourself as straight or not but at least you say you are looking to meet TVs and have TV veris. The label isn't that important, it's the guys who state they are straight and only looking for women and couples only. From my point of view anyway.

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant

"Straight men don't.

Bi men that say they are straight, do.

Fab straight, will.

Straight men do

You would know better than me, but I would suggest they aren't.

But why do we need label's

If you choose straight label,great. Some people think it makes you bi if you get in a mmf. Whether you touch or not. That's why I don't label

I would agree with you in a mmf, but I play mfm. Perhaps that's another label, but widely recognised.

Yeah, buts let's face it, two nekid guy's in the same room!

Is it to see another guy's cock? With a bi man. Even I'm lost now

Just looked at your profile, it says you are straight with verifications from TV/TS. It seems you have the problem with labels. Why label yourself as straight? If you don't like or have a problem with labels, why not say you are bi, bi curious etc.

I always find it funny that those who think they are the most liberal and free thinking have a problem with me describing myself as straight because my sexual preferences don't include men or cock.

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

Perhaps, I don't like labels when other people choose them for me. You keep telling me, you want to be labelled straight, which I should accept at face value. Can I not have the same courtesy

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

If I call myself bi-curious or bi. What do I tell the bi guys who message?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because they aren’t straight

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant

"Perhaps, I don't like labels when other people choose them for me. You keep telling me, you want to be labelled straight, which I should accept at face value. Can I not have the same courtesy

I've previously said, I have no problems with what you call yourself.

Your straight isn't the same as mine. Or what I class as straight.

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

"Perhaps, I don't like labels when other people choose them for me. You keep telling me, you want to be labelled straight, which I should accept at face value. Can I not have the same courtesy

I've previously said, I have no problems with what you call yourself.

Your straight isn't the same as mine. Or what I class as straight. "

That's cool. But why ask me to put bi or straight?

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

I might as well have this as a copy and paste for the amount of times this crops up.

If a guy wants to meet me and is thinking its for sex (and he won't as I don't like men) then he isn't straight, he is at the very least bi/curious depending on him having zero experiences with a crossdresser or another man.

I am a man in a dress. Its as simple as that so if he meets someone like me and has sex with them then by that very clear definition he is NOT straight.

Meet a trangender woman (woman being rhe defining word there) who still has a penis and then its a different story and that is better left up to those who have more knowledge of trangender issues than I do.

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

"Because they aren’t straight "

Maybe not, but you got lovely boobs, so I'm not that queer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm pretty sure that I saw somewhere that a well known porn site shown that mostly 'straight' guys watch trans porn, I can see it being an extention of that, personally I dont mind if somebody has straight in there profile here as long as they treat me with respect, now If was dating or it turned into a regular fwb it would be a different situation..

Coming out can be hard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe that the reason is because mainstream society, is heteronormative and still doesn't understand gender varience, or same sex, activity. The unwritten male code of conduct looks down on gender varience and male sexual activity with another person with a penis. And a lot ofborn women don't like it, so men hide their sexuality because of being shamed, and losing out on the chance of action with a born female. The pressure to conform to sexual and gender norms, is huge.

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley

"I believe that the reason is because mainstream society, is heteronormative and still doesn't understand gender varience, or same sex, activity. The unwritten male code of conduct looks down on gender varience and male sexual activity with another person with a penis. And a lot ofborn women don't like it, so men hide their sexuality because of being shamed, and losing out on the chance of action with a born female. The pressure to conform to sexual and gender norms, is huge. "

Said beautifully

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over a year ago

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant

I don't agree about an unwritten male code for of conduct. I certainly don't look down on you, bi or gay or any other variance.

From past discussions I know that this is a discussion viewed differently by both 'sides' for their own reasons.

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