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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The UKs biggest funeral company has begun an inquiry after staff were secretly filmed storing dead bodies like stacking television sets" in a warehouse on an industrial estate off a busy motorway. Did you see this last night ? And what you think ?

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

When you cant blame them...given that undertakers make so little money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Didn't see it, but thats just disgusting and disrespectful

What a sad society we live in today!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"When you cant blame them...given that undertakers make so little money. "
last year thay made £52 million this firm ,

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By *ove2-shareCouple
over a year ago

South Gloucestershire

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By *ove2-shareCouple
over a year ago

South Gloucestershire


"When you cant blame them...given that undertakers make so little money. "

i think they said the industry is worth % Billion a year, they make shedloads, and taking an old lady out of a vehical in the middle od a block of flats with her coffin lid of so anyone (including kids) would have been able to see it is disgusting

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"When you cant blame them...given that undertakers make so little money.

i think they said the industry is worth % Billion a year, they make shedloads, and taking an old lady out of a vehical in the middle od a block of flats with her coffin lid of so anyone (including kids) would have been able to see it is disgusting "
it was and them liying to them people coming in the office saying coffin was damaged but the person was not there and ready to see . Not sure why thay could not tell the truth .

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey


"The UKs biggest funeral company has begun an inquiry after staff were secretly filmed storing dead bodies like stacking television sets" in a warehouse on an industrial estate off a busy motorway. Did you see this last night ? And what you think ?

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No I didn't see it but have heard about it.

I think it is disgusting...the dead should have as much respect given to them as the living.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't watch the prog last night. Were the bodies refridgerated?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I didn't watch the prog last night. Were the bodies refridgerated?"
yes in a warehouse on an industrial estate off a busy motorway miles away from the offices , so when family come in ... thay have to get them back and can be hours and cost them money even .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well i read about it in the paper.

I dont think it matters what happens to you when your dead though.

You arent going to feel anything if your dead are you?

I think the money that funeral companys charge is a rip off, and complete waste of money.

In india they just set fire to the dead bodys in the street, that seems a much better idea.

We should be allowed to be burried in our gardens if we want to as well.

I would rather be cremated though, as i once read about people being buried alive.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Well i read about it in the paper.

I dont think it matters what happens to you when your dead though.

You arent going to feel anything if your dead are you?

I think the money that funeral companys charge is a rip off, and complete waste of money.

In india they just set fire to the dead bodys in the street, that seems a much better idea.

We should be allowed to be burried in our gardens if we want to as well.

I would rather be cremated though, as i once read about people being buried alive."
We should be allowed to be burried in our gardens ? You cant even do that with some anamals now .... just say one of my horses pass .. I have to call people in . To take away of pay to have cremated .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The bit of the programme that i saw was a family who were told they had the wrong body to bury....... it was disgusting, and so upsetting for the family........ I got the impression that they have more than one of these warehouses all over the country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't watch the prog last night. Were the bodies refridgerated?"
yes they were but in one huge cold room...... and none of them were in closed compartments just self after self of bodies.... as they said on the programme they were stacked like tv's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With the high cost of commercial units it's very difficult for a business to store bodies with the amount of respect the deceased relative's demand, and in a nice easy to reach unit in the centre of town but they do treat bodies with decorum. Storage is separate issue entirely as decaying flesh doesn't take long to start to decompose and smell. Stacking coffins in refridgeration units aids the refridgeration process and keeps the corpses 'fresh' - sort of like a block of ice on top of a block of ice assists both to remain ice. It's slightly different in a hospital morgue where corpses are kept in refridgerated rooms 'unboxed' or in metal lockers until released for burial as they have to be vigilant that any diseases present doesn't escape into the wider hospital community.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey


"Well i read about it in the paper.

I dont think it matters what happens to you when your dead though.

You arent going to feel anything if your dead are you?

I think the money that funeral companys charge is a rip off, and complete waste of money.

In india they just set fire to the dead bodys in the street, that seems a much better idea.

We should be allowed to be burried in our gardens if we want to as well.

I would rather be cremated though, as i once read about people being buried alive."

I disagree with most of your comments.

Except the bit about funeral charges being a rip off!

I have buried 2 close family members this month and would be horrified if I thought that they had been treated like this. (whether they can feel it or not )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't watch the prog last night. Were the bodies refridgerated?yes they were but in one huge cold room...... and none of them were in closed compartments just self after self of bodies.... as they said on the programme they were stacked like tv's "

No, that's not right, and they should be forced to store them correctly. Even a cheap pine box is better than that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We should be allowed to be burried in our gardens if we want to as well."

That's all well and good if you own a country pile that's been in the family for generations but the average family tend to move around a lot so leaving a dead body in the garden for the next tennant is not really feasible is it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have read about some women who were allowed to have their hubbys buried in their gardens, including sara miles.

she also had her dog stuffed when it died.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"With the high cost of commercial units it's very difficult for a business to store bodies with the amount of respect the deceased relative's demand, and in a nice easy to reach unit in the centre of town but they do treat bodies with decorum. Storage is separate issue entirely as decaying flesh doesn't take long to start to decompose and smell. Stacking coffins in refridgeration units aids the refridgeration process and keeps the corpses 'fresh' - sort of like a block of ice on top of a block of ice assists both to remain ice. It's slightly different in a hospital morgue where corpses are kept in refridgerated rooms 'unboxed' or in metal lockers until released for burial as they have to be vigilant that any diseases present doesn't escape into the wider hospital community.

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if it was my mum or dad i would hate it .. just laying there a number on a bored ... a name tag some not even had covers on ... its wronge .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have read about some women who were allowed to have their hubbys buried in their gardens, including sara miles.

she also had her dog stuffed when it died. "
I think you can dogs and cats but bigger animals you cant in the garden . I am not sure about bodys .. in the garden as could be a health thing ? .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I saw the programme and was shocked.

The warehouse they stored bodies was marketed in the funeral brochure as being kept in a 'funeral home". It wasn't a home but a huge warehouse where bodies from various parts of the country were stored, in cold refrigerated conditions, but nevertheless stacked on top of each other, like on shelves.

They had untrained staff shipping these bodies out to the funeral directors when a family member wanted to view. It was just like stacking car parts.

I found it disrespectful. It doesn't matter that the dead can't feel it. If that was the case why don't we just wrap our parents in ice bags and throw them in the bin.

I can understand that there must be problems in storage but this should be with sensitivity. Not one of us would like our loved ones stored like that.

And the part where they'd got the wrong body at a funeral and had to swap bodies out of coffins in the churchyard was unbelievable. The poor daughter who was burying her mother will have been cheated out of a sensitive and heartfelt goodbye. If you can't have your final ceremony and goodbye to this world go as peaceful and memorable as possible, its a downright disgrace

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The poor daughter who was burying her mother will have been cheated out of a sensitive and heartfelt goodbye. If you can't have your final ceremony and goodbye to this world go as peaceful and memorable as possible, its a downright disgrace ,,,,, Your so right in saying that no one can give her that day back to do right way , I felt sorry for her too ... as thats what she will look back on over the years . x

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

As far as i know it is perfectly lawful to bury human bodies in your own garden subject to certain conditions.

Amongst these they have to be deceased obviously and the precise location must be marked on the deeds to the property.

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By *ove2-shareCouple
over a year ago

South Gloucestershire


"Well i read about it in the paper.

I dont think it matters what happens to you when your dead though.

You arent going to feel anything if your dead are you?

I think the money that funeral companys charge is a rip off, and complete waste of money.

In india they just set fire to the dead bodys in the street, that seems a much better idea.

We should be allowed to be burried in our gardens if we want to as well.

I would rather be cremated though, as i once read about people being buried alive."

Ive seen a public cremation in indonisia

the body was there for all to see, but it was a dignified ceremony full of love and respect, i got talking to one of his relatives and would gladly go that way myself. personally I dont care how i go but for many its deeply important and the methods used here lacked humanity, were financially exploitative, and as i say could shock innocent bystander if they saw.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

As far as i know it is perfectly lawful to bury human bodies in your own garden subject to certain conditions.

Amongst these they have to be deceased obviously and the precise location must be marked on the deeds to the property.

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I think health and safty would be called in .. and you would have to have to get them to say if ok ....as i still dont think it is , lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should be more like here in NI. Here you are buried within 3 days of death and the deceased is kept at home until time of burial, with family and friends welcome to the home to say their goodbyes

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Should be more like here in NI. Here you are buried within 3 days of death and the deceased is kept at home until time of burial, with family and friends welcome to the home to say their goodbyes"
I have been to one of them . We was on holiday and this village everyone was going to the village hall to have a drink with the man that died even us .. was lovely .Not sad at all . He was there and thay say thats how thay know if really dead thay dont drink there wiskey. xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

As far as i know it is perfectly lawful to bury human bodies in your own garden subject to certain conditions.

Amongst these they have to be deceased obviously and the precise location must be marked on the deeds to the property.

I think health and safty would be called in .. and you would have to have to get them to say if ok ....as i still dont think it is , lol "

Jo when you loose a horse you have to get permission from the land owner to bury that animal as it won't (or usually won't) be embalmed or encased in a casket, so will be straight into the field. That then causes issues with agriculture and you have to have the permission of the land owner and a guarantee that that land won't be used for farming or grazing purposes for however many years.

I don't know the rules for humans but I would assume you can't just shove them in a hole in the soil.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

As far as i know it is perfectly lawful to bury human bodies in your own garden subject to certain conditions.

Amongst these they have to be deceased obviously and the precise location must be marked on the deeds to the property.

I think health and safty would be called in .. and you would have to have to get them to say if ok ....as i still dont think it is , lol

Jo when you loose a horse you have to get permission from the land owner to bury that animal as it won't (or usually won't) be embalmed or encased in a casket, so will be straight into the field. That then causes issues with agriculture and you have to have the permission of the land owner and a guarantee that that land won't be used for farming or grazing purposes for however many years.

I don't know the rules for humans but I would assume you can't just shove them in a hole in the soil. "
your right about animals and i dont think you can just dig up the garden a shove a person in the ground whos dead i really dont think you can .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

As far as i know it is perfectly lawful to bury human bodies in your own garden subject to certain conditions.

Amongst these they have to be deceased obviously and the precise location must be marked on the deeds to the property.

I think health and safty would be called in .. and you would have to have to get them to say if ok ....as i still dont think it is , lol

Jo when you loose a horse you have to get permission from the land owner to bury that animal as it won't (or usually won't) be embalmed or encased in a casket, so will be straight into the field. That then causes issues with agriculture and you have to have the permission of the land owner and a guarantee that that land won't be used for farming or grazing purposes for however many years.

I don't know the rules for humans but I would assume you can't just shove them in a hole in the soil. your right about animals and i dont think you can just dig up the garden a shove a person in the ground whos dead i really dont think you can . "

Agreed and I don't think you should be able to either should you?

I did watch that documentary though and I think that what they did was compress hours and hours of filming into a short film. If you work in any business there are short cuts and white lies told to keep customers happy. It just so happens that this was a funeral business. What they didn't do was show any filming of a satisfied family where their loved one was treated with respect and dignity, because that wouldn't have made good tv or been the subject of forum discussions. I have used that funeral company twice in the last 2 years and had nothing but excellent service from them, with respect, dignity and care. And I actually emailed them yesterday to let them know I'd seen that programme and thought it in no way reflected the treatment I'd received.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

As far as i know it is perfectly lawful to bury human bodies in your own garden subject to certain conditions.

Amongst these they have to be deceased obviously and the precise location must be marked on the deeds to the property.

I think health and safty would be called in .. and you would have to have to get them to say if ok ....as i still dont think it is , lol

Jo when you loose a horse you have to get permission from the land owner to bury that animal as it won't (or usually won't) be embalmed or encased in a casket, so will be straight into the field. That then causes issues with agriculture and you have to have the permission of the land owner and a guarantee that that land won't be used for farming or grazing purposes for however many years.

I don't know the rules for humans but I would assume you can't just shove them in a hole in the soil. your right about animals and i dont think you can just dig up the garden a shove a person in the ground whos dead i really dont think you can .

Agreed and I don't think you should be able to either should you?

I did watch that documentary though and I think that what they did was compress hours and hours of filming into a short film. If you work in any business there are short cuts and white lies told to keep customers happy. It just so happens that this was a funeral business. What they didn't do was show any filming of a satisfied family where their loved one was treated with respect and dignity, because that wouldn't have made good tv or been the subject of forum discussions. I have used that funeral company twice in the last 2 years and had nothing but excellent service from them, with respect, dignity and care. And I actually emailed them yesterday to let them know I'd seen that programme and thought it in no way reflected the treatment I'd received. "
well i have family work in this for years i know alot what go s on really .... and i know some who have worked for them too , Thay left as told had to make money was about money money and felt dignity and care was not there in the work place. Its was to big and thay like family firms .. Thay have done other things in passed too .. thay was had -up for ... that tv show could have said but did not .. I hated it and no way would have my mum dad or family in a place miles away from there home .. people go to that office sort things and think there mum dad who evers there not miles away .. in a Factory ,, thats just how it looked . And i am glad thay did a good job for you and family .

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