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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

is causing a bit of a stir for the tshirt he wore on the podium on sunday, is he taking things too far?

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

Obscuring the logos and names of the team's sponsors is, almost certainly, going to upset them, the team principal and the owners.

It's also, probably, a no-go in his contract and the FIA rules.

Interview without coffee, fine or something more serious; we shall see.

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By *otFun1976Man
over a year ago

Hove

The bloke is a prize bell end.

Had the misfortune of meeting him once when he was at McLaren

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope.

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By *omino51Man
over a year ago

loughborough

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By *ribsaMan
over a year ago

A box at end of your bed

I have never been a fan of Hamilton always thought he was a bit of a ass.

I am starting to watch out for the young British driver Lando Norri seems like very talented guy hopefully he will get the brakes needed to start and kick Hamilton's arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What did the T-shirt say?

He seems to have principles and i like that he uses his public platform for promoting change for the better

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"is causing a bit of a stir for the tshirt he wore on the podium on sunday, is he taking things too far?"

Rather than silly visual totems demanding other people do things. It would perhaps be more credible if he actually took some action and actually did something hinself. So for example, sack his race engineers and replace them with black race engineers... Or pit crew or media team or business team. That would be a wow moment. Wearing a slogan t shirt... Not achieving much anymore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, when an innocent person is shot 8 times in their home, the person who killed him/her should absolutely be arrested. Whether they are police or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What did the T-shirt say?

He seems to have principles and i like that he uses his public platform for promoting change for the better"

"Arrest the cops who killed Breonna Taylor"

Police went to her house and shot her 8 times, just to find out later they had the wrong address, the police are still walking free

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have never been a fan of Hamilton always thought he was a bit of a ass.

I am starting to watch out for the young British driver Lando Norri seems like very talented guy hopefully he will get the brakes needed to start and kick Hamilton's arse. "

ive worked with them both, lando is the real deal, and alot of family money, he should go far

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"What did the T-shirt say?

He seems to have principles and i like that he uses his public platform for promoting change for the better"

D.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have never been a fan of Hamilton always thought he was a bit of a ass.

I am starting to watch out for the young British driver Lando Norri seems like very talented guy hopefully he will get the brakes needed to start and kick Hamilton's arse. "

Lando Norris is a great talent. But if anyone is going to kick Hamiltons arse with the right gear, it would be George Russell

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By *otFun1976Man
over a year ago

Hove


"I have never been a fan of Hamilton always thought he was a bit of a ass.

I am starting to watch out for the young British driver Lando Norri seems like very talented guy hopefully he will get the brakes needed to start and kick Hamilton's arse.

ive worked with them both, lando is the real deal, and alot of family money, he should go far"

Did you work with JB too? Polar opposite of Shamilton. What an amazing fella!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have never been a fan of Hamilton always thought he was a bit of a ass.

I am starting to watch out for the young British driver Lando Norri seems like very talented guy hopefully he will get the brakes needed to start and kick Hamilton's arse.

Lando Norris is a great talent. But if anyone is going to kick Hamiltons arse with the right gear, it would be George Russell"

george is a nice guy, and also supper quick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have never been a fan of Hamilton always thought he was a bit of a ass.

I am starting to watch out for the young British driver Lando Norri seems like very talented guy hopefully he will get the brakes needed to start and kick Hamilton's arse.

ive worked with them both, lando is the real deal, and alot of family money, he should go far

Did you work with JB too? Polar opposite of Shamilton. What an amazing fella!"

many years ago, before he made it big, real gent, and his dads a riot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have never been a fan of Hamilton always thought he was a bit of a ass.

I am starting to watch out for the young British driver Lando Norri seems like very talented guy hopefully he will get the brakes needed to start and kick Hamilton's arse.

Lando Norris is a great talent. But if anyone is going to kick Hamiltons arse with the right gear, it would be George Russell

george is a nice guy, and also supper quick"

LeClerc said something along the lines that hes dreading Russell getting a faster car because in the right car hes almost unbeatable

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too...."

thats a good point, but ive heard on the grape vine, that some are thinking of pulling out over this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too...."

Plus, I don't think the FIA or his sponsors would dare say anything negative about a black man standing up to racism

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too....

Plus, I don't think the FIA or his sponsors would dare say anything negative about a black man standing up to racism"

Good on him... Stand up and be counted... Keep it in the public eye and get people talking

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

Taking to the podium shouldn’t be the opportunity to make a political statement. He was wrong to do it and is pushing the boundaries way too far now.

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By *RSTCouple
over a year ago

S. Northants

He should get his facts right and read the investigation notes that were released a few weeks back.

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By *imon_hydeMan
over a year ago

Stockport

Nothing wrong with the sentiment of the shirt. I don't like the man or the sport but that's down to me and his tax dodging ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too....

thats a good point, but ive heard on the grape vine, that some are thinking of pulling out over this"

and what damage whould that do to them ? a guy standing up for something he belives in who on a million + per race + plus what he erans away from the track...

can see it now hi can you tell us why you pulled the plug on sponsoring lewis ?? yeah we pulled the plug for his support for injustices against black people .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://youtu.be/kq2E7LBClnY

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too....

Plus, I don't think the FIA or his sponsors would dare say anything negative about a black man standing up to racism

Good on him... Stand up and be counted... Keep it in the public eye and get people talking "

Kind of... But dont you think time for talking is long past and its time for action now? Otherwise its just lip service? I mean as a middle class white guy I'm very aware of my ignorance of this... But t shirt slogans aren't actually changing anything are they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too....

Plus, I don't think the FIA or his sponsors would dare say anything negative about a black man standing up to racism

Good on him... Stand up and be counted... Keep it in the public eye and get people talking

Kind of... But dont you think time for talking is long past and its time for action now? Otherwise its just lip service? I mean as a middle class white guy I'm very aware of my ignorance of this... But t shirt slogans aren't actually changing anything are they? "

A very easy and quick Google search shows that he has set up The Hamilton Commission to help more your black kids get into engineering.. so not just a t-shirt wearer

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By *ribsaMan
over a year ago

A box at end of your bed

There are a lot of good drivers out there. My thoughts are that the drivers should change cars not driving the same one's for the same manufacturer all the time then it takes it away from the manufacturers/cars and more on the drivers and their talent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too....

Plus, I don't think the FIA or his sponsors would dare say anything negative about a black man standing up to racism

Good on him... Stand up and be counted... Keep it in the public eye and get people talking

Kind of... But dont you think time for talking is long past and its time for action now? Otherwise its just lip service? I mean as a middle class white guy I'm very aware of my ignorance of this... But t shirt slogans aren't actually changing anything are they? "

You could say that of any protest? How would anything ever get challenged or changed? I think it is good to keep things in the public eye

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet

A tiresome knob who has availed himself of the privelige afforded to him to get where he is. In the us there are intelligent informed celebs like densil Washington , Morgan freeman and political commentators like candice owens and larry elder who destroy the myth of white privilege and the conflated lies that the police disproportially target and murder black males. When will we get a truly inspirational celeb in this country who pedels the notion that young black males can buy into the notion of hard work and personal responsibility and can achieve almost anything. Instead we have this moron Joshua and bodega peddling a dangerous lie that gets young black men condemned to the abyss of" blame the white man culture".Hatemongers and racial pot stirrers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"is causing a bit of a stir for the tshirt he wore on the podium on sunday, is he taking things too far?"

When innocent people are losing their lives just because of the colour of their skin and where they were born, I don’t think anyone could really question if wearing a T shirt that draws attention to that could be said to be taking things too far.

That said, I don’t think the guy does himself any favours with the hypocrisy he demonstrates on other subjects and undermines himself at times. For example, criticising the public for not sharing his views on reducing carbon emissions whilst travelling the world for fashion shows, encouraging others to do the same to watch races, taking money from Petronas, Mercedes etc. He is morally right in what he says but arguably behaving selfishly in his pursuit of personal ambition now and contributing more to global emissions when he doesn’t need to - he’s rich and successful enough to quit now and do good work for this cause.

However, this is a serious subject, one he rightly cares about and he can champion and draw attention to in a positive way. It’s something where his words and behaviours can be truly aligned and hopefully he can be a force for positive change. If he saves one life by making just a few people think differently about people of another race, religion, sex etc then I don’t think you can knock him for that and for trying to make the world a bit better. Fair play to him on this one I think.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too....

Plus, I don't think the FIA or his sponsors would dare say anything negative about a black man standing up to racism

Good on him... Stand up and be counted... Keep it in the public eye and get people talking

Kind of... But dont you think time for talking is long past and its time for action now? Otherwise its just lip service? I mean as a middle class white guy I'm very aware of my ignorance of this... But t shirt slogans aren't actually changing anything are they?

A very easy and quick Google search shows that he has set up The Hamilton Commission to help more your black kids get into engineering.. so not just a t-shirt wearer "

Good to hear.... BUT not as visible as his crew...that are shown to billions every week on TV... And are all white.... (I think but could be selective memory there).. Just imagine the power of him stating his team would have 2 black engineers by the end of this season, 4 the following season. And similar.... How could his competitors do nothing.? Then how could his sponsors... Its within his power as he is Mr F1 at the moment. Put THAT on his T shirt... "we are making a change not talking about making a change"

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By *icouple69Couple
over a year ago

Colchester

Be nice if he paid a bit of tax in this country too...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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A very easy and quick Google search shows that he has set up The Hamilton Commission to help more your black kids get into engineering.. so not just a t-shirt wearer

Good to hear.... BUT not as visible as his crew...that are shown to billions every week on TV... And are all white.... (I think but could be selective memory there).. Just imagine the power of him stating his team would have 2 black engineers by the end of this season, 4 the following season. And similar.... How could his competitors do nothing.? Then how could his sponsors... Its within his power as he is Mr F1 at the moment. Put THAT on his T shirt... "we are making a change not talking about making a change" "

Well other than employment laws meaning he can just fire his team because they aren't black.......

Something tells me no matter what he didnyou'd ask why he didn't so something else. Im out

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"is causing a bit of a stir for the tshirt he wore on the podium on sunday, is he taking things too far?

Rather than silly visual totems demanding other people do things. It would perhaps be more credible if he actually took some action and actually did something hinself. So for example, sack his race engineers and replace them with black race engineers... Or pit crew or media team or business team. That would be a wow moment. Wearing a slogan t shirt... Not achieving much anymore. "
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That's a great idea .

Can't see him doing it though, his first place requires people that are the best regardless of colour, creed,sexuality or sex, he didn't get the job because he's mixed race he got it because he's the best, so did they.

He's an arse though that avoids tax like it's Corona virus while bemoaning morality about others

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By *arleyfatboy2019Couple
over a year ago

Devon

I think he’s selective.

Mercedes a German company that used foreign slave labour during the Second World War and caused the death of many poles,Jews,Russians etc. I suppose you could say he’s earning blood money from the efforts of slave labour.

I think he was questioned on it but tried to dismiss it . Don’t think you can dismiss that .

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By *orkswatcherMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

He's an utter cockwomble how many millions does he have in the bank

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

he is the best driver in F1 at the moment, I have never regarded sportsmen as the best authority on politics or style. if he keeps winning I dont think anyone will object too strongly

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By *otFun1976Man
over a year ago

Hove

Just posted up on bbc sport

Formula 1 bosses are looking into whether Lewis Hamilton broke rules at the Tuscan Grand Prix by wearing a T-shirt highlighting police brutality.

A spokesman for the FIA said the matter was "under active consideration".

He said the FIA was a non-political organisation and was considering if Hamilton's T-shirt broke its statutes.

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By *otFun1976Man
over a year ago

Hove


"I think he’s selective.

Mercedes a German company that used foreign slave labour during the Second World War and caused the death of many poles,Jews,Russians etc. I suppose you could say he’s earning blood money from the efforts of slave labour.

I think he was questioned on it but tried to dismiss it . Don’t think you can dismiss that . "

He also has personal sponsorship deal with Hugo Boss who actually designed the SS Uniforms.

The bloke is a hypocrite and a f*****g irritating one too.

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

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I used to love Hamilton back in the early days but he has changed a lot and not necessarily in a good way.

I get that he wants to make a statement when he has so much publicity, but who is truly causing the most change for the better, him or Marcus Rashford who seems to be working hard to change lives without all the drama.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Be nice if he paid a bit of tax in this country too... "

Hes in the top 5000 tax payers in the country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find it mad that people only want to talk about racism when it suits them.

Like "He should talk about it here, but not on the podium because I don't want to hear it then"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Be nice if he paid a bit of tax in this country too... "

And what tax has to do with racism is beyond me

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"A tiresome knob who has availed himself of the privelige afforded to him to get where he is. In the us there are intelligent informed celebs like densil Washington , Morgan freeman and political commentators like candice owens and larry elder who destroy the myth of white privilege and the conflated lies that the police disproportially target and murder black males. When will we get a truly inspirational celeb in this country who pedels the notion that young black males can buy into the notion of hard work and personal responsibility and can achieve almost anything. Instead we have this moron Joshua and bodega peddling a dangerous lie that gets young black men condemned to the abyss of" blame the white man culture".Hatemongers and racial pot stirrers."
absolutely

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

What’s wrong with being a tax exile?

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.


"his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too....

Plus, I don't think the FIA or his sponsors would dare say anything negative about a black man standing up to racism"

They did almost exactly the same to a white woman, obviously totally wrong but why is it racist if they kill a black woman?

Incompetent yes, racist no.

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

LH is the best F1 driver of his time and has demonstrated it time after time and I admire him for his skill and courage behind the wheel . I however took a step back on other fronts when he described living in Stevenage as living in the ghetto. He quickly withdrew that remark and and apologised to the people of Stevenage. However you can't argue with his passion for this cause.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too....

Plus, I don't think the FIA or his sponsors would dare say anything negative about a black man standing up to racism

They did almost exactly the same to a white woman, obviously totally wrong but why is it racist if they kill a black woman?

Incompetent yes, racist no.

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Probably more to do with police brutality, which you can't argue is pretty rife in USA and a lot of other countries. I would say its more to do with why they got away with it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What’s wrong with being a tax exile?

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Nothing, if I was making millions I wouldn't think twice about moving abroad to a better climate and pay less tax

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"What’s wrong with being a tax exile?

Nothing, if I was making millions I wouldn't think twice about moving abroad to a better climate and pay less tax"

Same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What’s wrong with being a tax exile?

Nothing, if I was making millions I wouldn't think twice about moving abroad to a better climate and pay less tax

Same. "

Yeah and then come crawling back when you need the NHS.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"he is the best driver in F1 at the moment, I have never regarded sportsmen as the best authority on politics or style. if he keeps winning I dont think anyone will object too strongly "

Perhaps, the issue is when he decides to insert himself into politics. Then he opens himself up to a whole different discussion. His choice, but once it becomes political they need to be prepared to be challenged or discuss or debate the issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's like on the news when they ask the public to comment on current issues. Most are ill informed or just plain clueless. We need unbiased political commentators to inform and educate, not celebrities with their own agendas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have little doubt he is a talented race driver. you have to be to get into f1 in the first place.

but politics should not enter the sporting area.

its all very well showing support for black lives matter but the movement hasnt provided funds for black people its supposed to represent.

the troubling thing is more white people have been shot and killed by US police since 2017 than black.

50 children have been killed in chicago this year alone.

many black families lack a father figure for kids to look up too so when they encounter authority for the first time (i.e. the police) and they say you cant do that its all of a sudden racism.

im not saying some police are bad people, you get bad people in every job in every town.

but when you got famous people wearing tshirts like saymyname and black lives matter who do they think they are!

because what people do not like to hear is that if criminals like jacob blake were obeying the law and not in an area they were banned from entering and then resisting arrest their wouldnt be trouble.

jacob blake was also charged with a 3rd degree sex offence against a minor (i.e. a pedophile) he was also harrasing the mother of that child.

when you see people including hamilton, lebron james and others defending a movement that has only kicked off because long term criminals and sex offenders get shot i have trouble defending it.

none of them would want jacob blake living next to them and george floyd had large quantities of illegal drugs inside of him and was also known to the police as a repeat and violent offender.

sure the office had no right pressing down on his neck but it sure doesnt help when you are doped up to the eye balls and no complying with the police.

as i said more white people than black have been killed by the police in america but no one is sounding off about that or looting and burning cities down.

i cannot defend violent criminals or sex offenders. they deserve to be removed from society for the benefit of all.

racism exists but i havnt seen any hooded white men on horses going through american cities chasing black folks either.

defund the police.

but dont start complaining when black on black crime, drugs and sex offenses go through the roof when no one comes to help you.

protest peacefully. do not defend or support criminals who damage the image of honest hard working black people.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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If he wants to speak out or wear a tshirt that's up to him, Someone as well known as him will highlight injustice, things going wrong in the world, But it's his sponsors, F1 rules that will have the final say,

But most countries judicial systems are fucked anyway I'm sick of hearing about drug dealers, Bank robbers, Pedophiles etc only getting a few years in jail, It's not a deterrent if they get shot tough shit, Might start putting more people of from doing serious crimes in the future

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"What’s wrong with being a tax exile?

Nothing, if I was making millions I wouldn't think twice about moving abroad to a better climate and pay less tax

Same.

Yeah and then come crawling back when you need the NHS.

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Why would he need the NHS he could pay for the best treatment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you really want to see how black people are feeling about all of this go look up jericho green on youtube.

also on hamilton being a tax exile.

nothing wron gin that at all but again you cannot support blm and when you distance yourself from the black community and surround yourself with security.

thats called being a hypocrite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lewis Hamilton is living proof of the “systemic racism” he complains about.

A multi-time world champion & he only has;

– 15 supercars

– 4 luxury homes

– A £60 milion a year contract with Mercedes

– A net worth of $285 million

The struggle is real.

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By *utcock61Man
over a year ago

glasgow

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

MK

Yes. He's a idiot. This year he had lost alot of fans.

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By *amish SMan
over a year ago

Eastleigh

It's seems the US citizens are quick to claim the racist card. Anyone who has driven in the states know the rules, keep your hands where the officer can see them. Walking back to a car and reaching in the foot well is going to hurt.

After the recent events in the states, poor policing is clearly the cause of the problems.

As for LH, seems to becoming a right idiot these days, more camp and more pompous each season.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"is causing a bit of a stir for the tshirt he wore on the podium on sunday, is he taking things too far?

When innocent people are losing their lives just because of the colour of their skin and where they were born, I don’t think anyone could really question if wearing a T shirt that draws attention to that could be said to be taking things too far.

That said, I don’t think the guy does himself any favours with the hypocrisy he demonstrates on other subjects and undermines himself at times. For example, criticising the public for not sharing his views on reducing carbon emissions whilst travelling the world for fashion shows, encouraging others to do the same to watch races, taking money from Petronas, Mercedes etc. He is morally right in what he says but arguably behaving selfishly in his pursuit of personal ambition now and contributing more to global emissions when he doesn’t need to - he’s rich and successful enough to quit now and do good work for this cause.

However, this is a serious subject, one he rightly cares about and he can champion and draw attention to in a positive way. It’s something where his words and behaviours can be truly aligned and hopefully he can be a force for positive change. If he saves one life by making just a few people think differently about people of another race, religion, sex etc then I don’t think you can knock him for that and for trying to make the world a bit better. Fair play to him on this one I think."

Absolutely, yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there was a no knock warrent issued at her address so not sure why Hamilton has said the police had the wrong house

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over a year ago


"his sponsors would have loved this as hes in the news again and thats what his sponsors would want ..all for the right reasons too....

Plus, I don't think the FIA or his sponsors would dare say anything negative about a black man standing up to racism

They did almost exactly the same to a white woman, obviously totally wrong but why is it racist if they kill a black woman?

Incompetent yes, racist no.

"
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There's practically no data showing the police has any significant racial bias, there's maybe some small data showing a little bias in the justice system but even that's nuanced, there's data showing the US police force is perhaps over brutal on many occasions but even that has no racial bias, the fact remains in the US your more likely (at around 2.2 times) to be shot by a black police officer than a white one when you average out the figures.

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By *adbod74Man
over a year ago

Dudley

He is just trying to be a brand now I think, he has talent but he has a massive team behind him, me personally he should stick to his sport and working for his sponsors

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Police returned fire after one of their number was shot.

The issue is should the warrant have been issued in the first place as the she had split with the guy who had been getting the packages delivered to her address.

If the Police were under fire they won’t get arrested I reckon as they can clearly claim acting in self defence.

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By *ungscotsman26Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

He's trying to raise awareness of someone being murdered by the police. I don't see why there's so much hate for Hamilton. Using his stature as one of the biggest sports stars in the world to make changes for the better.....

I applaud him for that.

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By *ungscotsman26Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"He's trying to raise awareness of someone being murdered by the police. I don't see why there's so much hate for Hamilton. Using his stature as one of the biggest sports stars in the world to make changes for the better.....

I applaud him for that. "

Also Osaka (tennis star) has been doing similar.

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By *ungscotsman26Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Also you've got me going now but this will be my last point as forums like this tend to turn nasty.

15,000 complaints about Diversity's performance on Britain's got talent shows you the deep rooted issues of racism in our country.

Have a good night everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also you've got me going now but this will be my last point as forums like this tend to turn nasty.

15,000 complaints about Diversity's performance on Britain's got talent shows you the deep rooted issues of racism in our country.

Have a good night everyone."

Instead you wish to shut down the debate with the last word.

Many people understand the political demands BLM have as an organisation and reject it. It isnt as a simple as to say 15,000 racists complained about a dance.

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By *he 5thMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

Pompous prick in a word

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Be nice if he paid a bit of tax in this country too... "

Hamilton is actually in the top 50 tax payers in the uk... according to the Times.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Be nice if he paid a bit of tax in this country too...

Hamilton is actually in the top 50 tax payers in the uk... according to the Times. "

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Police returned fire after one of their number was shot.

The issue is should the warrant have been issued in the first place as the she had split with the guy who had been getting the packages delivered to her address.

If the Police were under fire they won’t get arrested I reckon as they can clearly claim acting in self defence.

"

The "official" story is that the police broke down the door and the lady's boyfriend discharged his gun injuring one officer. Another of the police officers stuck his gun round the corner and fired ten times blindly into the room.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Police returned fire after one of their number was shot.

The issue is should the warrant have been issued in the first place as the she had split with the guy who had been getting the packages delivered to her address.

If the Police were under fire they won’t get arrested I reckon as they can clearly claim acting in self defence.

The "official" story is that the police broke down the door and the lady's boyfriend discharged his gun injuring one officer. Another of the police officers stuck his gun round the corner and fired ten times blindly into the room."

So the Police were under fire?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Be nice if he paid a bit of tax in this country too...

Hamilton is actually in the top 50 tax payers in the uk... according to the Times. "

No, he isn't

https://www.news.co.uk/2019/01/the-sunday-times-tax-list-reveals-britains-top-50-taxpayers/

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over a year ago

They create a fence and people automatically jump to one side. The word empathy to me means to place yourself in someone else shoes and try to understand their point of view but you can’t be in the middle there is a fence there.

Hamilton probably feels he is losing the wrong fans and gaining the right ones, thought about that?

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him. "

This is my take on it too.

I struggle to comprehend why so many people dislike him so much.

Are they jealous?

He has become successful in one of of the most difficult motor sports to get into. Lewis didn't come from money, or a motor racing family, unlike most in F1 and I applaud him using his position to fight for something he believes in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

Yeah, team may be unhappy for covering sponsors - but some rich guys get 20 mins less screen time for their product - not the end of the world for me.

I’d say his message was pretty valuable.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him.

This is my take on it too.

I struggle to comprehend why so many people dislike him so much.

Are they jealous?

He has become successful in one of of the most difficult motor sports to get into. Lewis didn't come from money, or a motor racing family, unlike most in F1 and I applaud him using his position to fight for something he believes in."

I think jealousy comes into in some cases for sure. There is a lot of vitriol in this thread that seems somewhat disproportionate with his act.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Be nice if he paid a bit of tax in this country too...

Hamilton is actually in the top 50 tax payers in the uk... according to the Times.

No, he isn't

https://www.news.co.uk/2019/01/the-sunday-times-tax-list-reveals-britains-top-50-taxpayers/"

No you are right... I remember incorrectly. He is in the top 5000 (big difference) but that's still in the top 0.0007% of uk tax payers

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester


"Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him.

This is my take on it too.

I struggle to comprehend why so many people dislike him so much.

Are they jealous?

He has become successful in one of of the most difficult motor sports to get into. Lewis didn't come from money, or a motor racing family, unlike most in F1 and I applaud him using his position to fight for something he believes in."

I really don’t get it. I’m not saying he’s particularly likeable but I don’t need to like someone to respect their success. The guy has given more to charity than most will ever earn.. yet he’s given stick for drawing attention to BLM as a black man in a white sport. It’s irrational hatred and yes jealousy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Be nice if he paid a bit of tax in this country too...

Hamilton is actually in the top 50 tax payers in the uk... according to the Times.

No, he isn't

https://www.news.co.uk/2019/01/the-sunday-times-tax-list-reveals-britains-top-50-taxpayers/

No you are right... I remember incorrectly. He is in the top 5000 (big difference) but that's still in the top 0.0007% of uk tax payers "

Yes..quite a difference lol

But sure, he earns a LOT of money..he should pay a LOT of tax.

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him.

This is my take on it too.

I struggle to comprehend why so many people dislike him so much.

Are they jealous?

He has become successful in one of of the most difficult motor sports to get into. Lewis didn't come from money, or a motor racing family, unlike most in F1 and I applaud him using his position to fight for something he believes in.

I really don’t get it. I’m not saying he’s particularly likeable but I don’t need to like someone to respect their success. The guy has given more to charity than most will ever earn.. yet he’s given stick for drawing attention to BLM as a black man in a white sport. It’s irrational hatred and yes jealousy.

"

Sadly, I suspect that there is an element of racism in it too.

Possibly the most successful F1 driver ever, who came from a working class background and is black.

To top it off he is a philanthropist too.

That won't sit well with some.

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester


"Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him.

This is my take on it too.

I struggle to comprehend why so many people dislike him so much.

Are they jealous?

He has become successful in one of of the most difficult motor sports to get into. Lewis didn't come from money, or a motor racing family, unlike most in F1 and I applaud him using his position to fight for something he believes in.

I really don’t get it. I’m not saying he’s particularly likeable but I don’t need to like someone to respect their success. The guy has given more to charity than most will ever earn.. yet he’s given stick for drawing attention to BLM as a black man in a white sport. It’s irrational hatred and yes jealousy.

Sadly, I suspect that there is an element of racism in it too.

Possibly the most successful F1 driver ever, who came from a working class background and is black.

To top it off he is a philanthropist too.

That won't sit well with some."

And I hope he wins every single race for the remainder of the season just to stick two fingers up to the irrational haters. Isn’t it funny how some sporting legends are loved.. others revered.. either way they are history makers in their own right.

I think a lot of people need some racism education. It’s ugly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him.

This is my take on it too.

I struggle to comprehend why so many people dislike him so much.

Are they jealous?

He has become successful in one of of the most difficult motor sports to get into. Lewis didn't come from money, or a motor racing family, unlike most in F1 and I applaud him using his position to fight for something he believes in.

I really don’t get it. I’m not saying he’s particularly likeable but I don’t need to like someone to respect their success. The guy has given more to charity than most will ever earn.. yet he’s given stick for drawing attention to BLM as a black man in a white sport. It’s irrational hatred and yes jealousy.

Sadly, I suspect that there is an element of racism in it too.

Possibly the most successful F1 driver ever, who came from a working class background and is black.

To top it off he is a philanthropist too.

That won't sit well with some."

there's always going to be some who are racist. and yes he's v successful..through good luck, determination and hard work. he's v talented.

but that doesn't stop others from legitimately criticising his stance and opinions on BLM. He's entitled to them, just as others are entitled to theirs.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Be nice if he paid a bit of tax in this country too...

Hamilton is actually in the top 50 tax payers in the uk... according to the Times.

No, he isn't

https://www.news.co.uk/2019/01/the-sunday-times-tax-list-reveals-britains-top-50-taxpayers/

No you are right... I remember incorrectly. He is in the top 5000 (big difference) but that's still in the top 0.0007% of uk tax payers

Yes..quite a difference lol

But sure, he earns a LOT of money..he should pay a LOT of tax. "

He still pays more tax than over 65 million other Britain's... including me. Those who hate him like to tell us he pays no UK tax, it's just not true. You could have levelled the same complaints about Jenson Button or David Coultard... but nobody did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Be nice if he paid a bit of tax in this country too...

Hamilton is actually in the top 50 tax payers in the uk... according to the Times.

No, he isn't

https://www.news.co.uk/2019/01/the-sunday-times-tax-list-reveals-britains-top-50-taxpayers/

No you are right... I remember incorrectly. He is in the top 5000 (big difference) but that's still in the top 0.0007% of uk tax payers

Yes..quite a difference lol

But sure, he earns a LOT of money..he should pay a LOT of tax.

He still pays more tax than over 65 million other Britain's... including me. Those who hate him like to tell us he pays no UK tax, it's just not true. You could have levelled the same complaints about Jenson Button or David Coultard... but nobody did."

He pays more tax because he earns more than 65m brits.

But he also avoids paying tax in the UK by arranging his tax affairs to limit his liabilities.

There is a lot of criticism for any famous people who do the same, black or white.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him.

This is my take on it too.

I struggle to comprehend why so many people dislike him so much.

Are they jealous?

He has become successful in one of of the most difficult motor sports to get into. Lewis didn't come from money, or a motor racing family, unlike most in F1 and I applaud him using his position to fight for something he believes in.

I really don’t get it. I’m not saying he’s particularly likeable but I don’t need to like someone to respect their success. The guy has given more to charity than most will ever earn.. yet he’s given stick for drawing attention to BLM as a black man in a white sport. It’s irrational hatred and yes jealousy.

Sadly, I suspect that there is an element of racism in it too.

Possibly the most successful F1 driver ever, who came from a working class background and is black.

To top it off he is a philanthropist too.

That won't sit well with some.

And I hope he wins every single race for the remainder of the season just to stick two fingers up to the irrational haters. Isn’t it funny how some sporting legends are loved.. others revered.. either way they are history makers in their own right.

I think a lot of people need some racism education. It’s ugly. "

Would be great if he does and is remembered in the future with pride.

I don't pretend to be perfect but I try not to be prejudiced.

Nita

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him.

This is my take on it too.

I struggle to comprehend why so many people dislike him so much.

Are they jealous?

He has become successful in one of of the most difficult motor sports to get into. Lewis didn't come from money, or a motor racing family, unlike most in F1 and I applaud him using his position to fight for something he believes in.

I really don’t get it. I’m not saying he’s particularly likeable but I don’t need to like someone to respect their success. The guy has given more to charity than most will ever earn.. yet he’s given stick for drawing attention to BLM as a black man in a white sport. It’s irrational hatred and yes jealousy.

Sadly, I suspect that there is an element of racism in it too.

Possibly the most successful F1 driver ever, who came from a working class background and is black.

To top it off he is a philanthropist too.

That won't sit well with some.

And I hope he wins every single race for the remainder of the season just to stick two fingers up to the irrational haters. Isn’t it funny how some sporting legends are loved.. others revered.. either way they are history makers in their own right.

I think a lot of people need some racism education. It’s ugly.

Would be great if he does and is remembered in the future with pride.

I don't pretend to be perfect but I try not to be prejudiced.

Nita"

I don't pretend to be perfect but I try not to be prejudiced - always a good starting place.

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet


"Also you've got me going now but this will be my last point as forums like this tend to turn nasty.

15,000 complaints about Diversity's performance on Britain's got talent shows you the deep rooted issues of racism in our country.

Have a good night everyone."
he wasn't murdered..the police returned fire to defend themselves and the diversity dance was provocative and blantantly devicive

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him.

This is my take on it too.

I struggle to comprehend why so many people dislike him so much.

Are they jealous?

He has become successful in one of of the most difficult motor sports to get into. Lewis didn't come from money, or a motor racing family, unlike most in F1 and I applaud him using his position to fight for something he believes in.

I really don’t get it. I’m not saying he’s particularly likeable but I don’t need to like someone to respect their success. The guy has given more to charity than most will ever earn.. yet he’s given stick for drawing attention to BLM as a black man in a white sport. It’s irrational hatred and yes jealousy.

Sadly, I suspect that there is an element of racism in it too.

Possibly the most successful F1 driver ever, who came from a working class background and is black.

To top it off he is a philanthropist too.

That won't sit well with some.

And I hope he wins every single race for the remainder of the season just to stick two fingers up to the irrational haters. Isn’t it funny how some sporting legends are loved.. others revered.. either way they are history makers in their own right.

I think a lot of people need some racism education. It’s ugly. "

How ironic, yes I think some people need some racism education. Disagreeing with someone isn't inherently racist. Disliking someone because they have chosen to introduce political slogans into a sport that prevents politics and sport being mixed in its constitution isn't racist. Allowing lh to get away with it because he is black... Is racist.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Pompous prick in a word "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"is causing a bit of a stir for the tshirt he wore on the podium on sunday, is he taking things too far?"

Nope its his choice if that's the way he feels. Now if it affects his sponsorship deals or his wage packet that's down to him but still his choice.

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester


"Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him.

This is my take on it too.

I struggle to comprehend why so many people dislike him so much.

Are they jealous?

He has become successful in one of of the most difficult motor sports to get into. Lewis didn't come from money, or a motor racing family, unlike most in F1 and I applaud him using his position to fight for something he believes in.

I really don’t get it. I’m not saying he’s particularly likeable but I don’t need to like someone to respect their success. The guy has given more to charity than most will ever earn.. yet he’s given stick for drawing attention to BLM as a black man in a white sport. It’s irrational hatred and yes jealousy.

Sadly, I suspect that there is an element of racism in it too.

Possibly the most successful F1 driver ever, who came from a working class background and is black.

To top it off he is a philanthropist too.

That won't sit well with some.

And I hope he wins every single race for the remainder of the season just to stick two fingers up to the irrational haters. Isn’t it funny how some sporting legends are loved.. others revered.. either way they are history makers in their own right.

I think a lot of people need some racism education. It’s ugly.

How ironic, yes I think some people need some racism education. Disagreeing with someone isn't inherently racist. Disliking someone because they have chosen to introduce political slogans into a sport that prevents politics and sport being mixed in its constitution isn't racist. Allowing lh to get away with it because he is black... Is racist. "

Is it really about his stance though? Or is it because he’s not trying to be likeable. He’s just doing his job.. very well... why is there not uproar about pop stars and influencers taking the same publicity opportunity?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

am not a fan and never ever will be.

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle


"is causing a bit of a stir for the tshirt he wore on the podium on sunday, is he taking things too far?"

Fighting for racial equality is not a step too far. Next.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What’s wrong with being a tax exile?

Nothing, if I was making millions I wouldn't think twice about moving abroad to a better climate and pay less tax

Same.

Yeah and then come crawling back when you need the NHS.

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I think if I was earning millions I'd use private care, like everyone else who earns millions

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"What did the T-shirt say?

He seems to have principles and i like that he uses his public platform for promoting change for the better"

Yeah like his being a vegan and attending his team mates " non vegan" BBQ.

Media whore, total ego maniac.

But not the brightest, obviously.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Nope. The guy works his arse off and is top of his game for a reason. He takes a stand for something which is vital to be kept in current thoughts and conversation. Good on him.

This is my take on it too.

I struggle to comprehend why so many people dislike him so much.

Are they jealous?

He has become successful in one of of the most difficult motor sports to get into. Lewis didn't come from money, or a motor racing family, unlike most in F1 and I applaud him using his position to fight for something he believes in.

I really don’t get it. I’m not saying he’s particularly likeable but I don’t need to like someone to respect their success. The guy has given more to charity than most will ever earn.. yet he’s given stick for drawing attention to BLM as a black man in a white sport. It’s irrational hatred and yes jealousy.

Sadly, I suspect that there is an element of racism in it too.

Possibly the most successful F1 driver ever, who came from a working class background and is black.

To top it off he is a philanthropist too.

That won't sit well with some.

And I hope he wins every single race for the remainder of the season just to stick two fingers up to the irrational haters. Isn’t it funny how some sporting legends are loved.. others revered.. either way they are history makers in their own right.

I think a lot of people need some racism education. It’s ugly.

How ironic, yes I think some people need some racism education. Disagreeing with someone isn't inherently racist. Disliking someone because they have chosen to introduce political slogans into a sport that prevents politics and sport being mixed in its constitution isn't racist. Allowing lh to get away with it because he is black... Is racist.

Is it really about his stance though? Or is it because he’s not trying to be likeable. He’s just doing his job.. very well... why is there not uproar about pop stars and influencers taking the same publicity opportunity? "

Well I can only speak for myself. I don't see any uproar, far from it. It's just a thread about lh and his T shirt slogans. Some are for it and some are against it. For me... I feel the same about pretty much all sports who think wearing a t shirt is somehow doing something. Take football. For gods sake make a change.... Appoint some black directors at the fa and get on with it... Stop wearing a T shirt and deluding yourselves it's doing a thing.

As for lh sporting achievements.. .. I Agree he is fantastic at his sport, there is no denying his achievements and hopefully he goes on to many more wins.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The first black man to race in F1 is speaking about inequality and people have a problem about it. Says it all

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By *ee04Man
over a year ago

Essex

Sorry skipped some of the thread as I’m fucking fed up of all this bollox.

I’m

Not racist sexist or anything elseist.

I’m left wing but no communist.

But the best person for a position should be the one who gets it, irrelevant of colour creed religion or sexual orientation.

I know I am now going to get not all have the same opportunities to which I agree.

This is a result of power hungry elite hanging on to power ensuring that none of the commoners get a chance.

There needs to massive investment in our youth and social services how much talent we have pissed away over the centuries, because of their birth.

You can’t fix stupid, so we just keep voting them into power all with their own agendas of how best to line their own pockets.

I know this is off track but if Lewis Hamilton wearing a t shirt is what shocks, these people need to wake up and have a good look around.

I have become more disillusioned the older I get as nobody want to bite the bullet and spend the money where as a race we will benefit in the long run.

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"What did the T-shirt say?

He seems to have principles and i like that he uses his public platform for promoting change for the better

Yeah like his being a vegan and attending his team mates " non vegan" BBQ.

Media whore, total ego maniac.

But not the brightest, obviously. "

That's the thing, when someone has an agenda they literally make stuff up and spout it like it's the truth!

He's not a vegan!!

There is a lot of physicality in the sport, but to consistently beat your rivals by 100ths of a second, probably comes more from the brain than the body.

I would stop embarrassing yourself now, as you really aren't the brightest!

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By *aoExplorerMan
over a year ago

Plumstead Common


"The first black man to race in F1 is speaking about inequality and people have a problem about it. Says it all"

Basically this. This thread is nuts. Let people use their platform to combat inequality and justice so that everyone can enjoy the things that you all take for granted. Like not having your killers walk free after you're shot in your bed.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"What did the T-shirt say?

He seems to have principles and i like that he uses his public platform for promoting change for the better

Yeah like his being a vegan and attending his team mates " non vegan" BBQ.

Media whore, total ego maniac.

But not the brightest, obviously.

That's the thing, when someone has an agenda they literally make stuff up and spout it like it's the truth!

He's not a vegan!!

There is a lot of physicality in the sport, but to consistently beat your rivals by 100ths of a second, probably comes more from the brain than the body.

I would stop embarrassing yourself now, as you really aren't the brightest!"

Not a Vegan (Since 2017) if you would like to do your homework.

Would you like to borrow a torch to assist with your lighting issues

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"What did the T-shirt say?

He seems to have principles and i like that he uses his public platform for promoting change for the better

Yeah like his being a vegan and attending his team mates " non vegan" BBQ.

Media whore, total ego maniac.

But not the brightest, obviously.

That's the thing, when someone has an agenda they literally make stuff up and spout it like it's the truth!

He's not a vegan!!

There is a lot of physicality in the sport, but to consistently beat your rivals by 100ths of a second, probably comes more from the brain than the body.

I would stop embarrassing yourself now, as you really aren't the brightest!

Not a Vegan (Since 2017) if you would like to do your homework.

Would you like to borrow a torch to assist with your lighting issues "

Put him in a lesser car and see how good he really is.

Agree he's a great ambassador for F1 but his ego lets him down, getting a little too Footballer for us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, when an innocent person is shot 8 times in their home, the person who killed him/her should absolutely be arrested. Whether they are police or not"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's a total knob!

BLM yer right Lewis then give some of your millions to underdeveloped countries in the third world.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"is causing a bit of a stir for the tshirt he wore on the podium on sunday, is he taking things too far?"

nope..... in fact more people should know the situation he was bringing to light (and judging by the amount of questions asked on google and brought up on twitter, it did its job!!)

as a sidebar yesterday the local city council of louisville agreed a $12 million dollar settlement with the family of Breonna Taylor with regard to her murder (let call it what it is!)

the Cops still haven't been charged with anything... and until they are then i hope people still "say her name"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"is causing a bit of a stir for the tshirt he wore on the podium on sunday, is he taking things too far?

nope..... in fact more people should know the situation he was bringing to light (and judging by the amount of questions asked on google and brought up on twitter, it did its job!!)

as a sidebar yesterday the local city council of louisville agreed a $12 million dollar settlement with the family of Breonna Taylor with regard to her murder (let call it what it is!)

the Cops still haven't been charged with anything... and until they are then i hope people still "say her name""

Lewis Hamilton still a litte prick regardless.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"is causing a bit of a stir for the tshirt he wore on the podium on sunday, is he taking things too far?

nope..... in fact more people should know the situation he was bringing to light (and judging by the amount of questions asked on google and brought up on twitter, it did its job!!)

as a sidebar yesterday the local city council of louisville agreed a $12 million dollar settlement with the family of Breonna Taylor with regard to her murder (let call it what it is!)

the Cops still haven't been charged with anything... and until they are then i hope people still "say her name"

Lewis Hamilton still a litte prick regardless."

Why?

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"What did the T-shirt say?

He seems to have principles and i like that he uses his public platform for promoting change for the better

Yeah like his being a vegan and attending his team mates " non vegan" BBQ.

Media whore, total ego maniac.

But not the brightest, obviously.

That's the thing, when someone has an agenda they literally make stuff up and spout it like it's the truth!

He's not a vegan!!

There is a lot of physicality in the sport, but to consistently beat your rivals by 100ths of a second, probably comes more from the brain than the body.

I would stop embarrassing yourself now, as you really aren't the brightest!

Not a Vegan (Since 2017) if you would like to do your homework.

Would you like to borrow a torch to assist with your lighting issues

Put him in a lesser car and see how good he really is.

Agree he's a great ambassador for F1 but his ego lets him down, getting a little too Footballer for us."
didn’t he drive the reasonable priced car on top gear and was quicker than the others F1 drivers? So perhaps he is a better driver than the rest Mind didn’t Nigel mansell get the top spot ? Off to look it up

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

but politics should not enter the sporting area.

"

so does that mean Marcus Rashford should not talk about Free School Meals....

Or Naomi Osaka not talk about George Floyd, Or Ahmad Aubrey, Or Tamir Rice

or Lebron James talk about Jacob Blake?

or Dak Prescott, who last week talked about the lack of mental health help after his brother committed suicide....

everything is politics... just because they are famous should they be barred?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Police returned fire after one of their number was shot.

The issue is should the warrant have been issued in the first place as the she had split with the guy who had been getting the packages delivered to her address.

If the Police were under fire they won’t get arrested I reckon as they can clearly claim acting in self defence.

The "official" story is that the police broke down the door and the lady's boyfriend discharged his gun injuring one officer. Another of the police officers stuck his gun round the corner and fired ten times blindly into the room.

So the Police were under fire? "

sort of... but there are a few things that need mentioning at this point

a) neither her, or her boyfriend, were the intended target of the raid..

b) her boyfriend, had a legal gun license for his handgun, and thought their house was being broken into

c) the intended target of the raid, was already in police custody 10 miles away!

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Police returned fire after one of their number was shot.

The issue is should the warrant have been issued in the first place as the she had split with the guy who had been getting the packages delivered to her address.

If the Police were under fire they won’t get arrested I reckon as they can clearly claim acting in self defence.

The "official" story is that the police broke down the door and the lady's boyfriend discharged his gun injuring one officer. Another of the police officers stuck his gun round the corner and fired ten times blindly into the room.

So the Police were under fire?

sort of... but there are a few things that need mentioning at this point

a) neither her, or her boyfriend, were the intended target of the raid..

b) her boyfriend, had a legal gun license for his handgun, and thought their house was being broken into

c) the intended target of the raid, was already in police custody 10 miles away!"

The boyfriend never gets mentioned in this what happened to him?

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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sort of... but there are a few things that need mentioning at this point

a) neither her, or her boyfriend, were the intended target of the raid..

But the police did have a warrant due to the intended target being her former boyfriend.

b) her boyfriend, had a legal gun license for his handgun, and thought their house was being broken into,

He fired the first shot that hit a police man,

c) the intended target of the raid, was already in police custody 10 miles away!"

They still had grounds to to search the house

They obviously made a few mistakes resulting in the lady being killed but it wouldn't matter what colour the people was in the house, A gun was fired at the police they was always going to return fire,

I still think if someone wants to highlight issues like this they can and should but it's down to the people who run whatever the rules whatever sport/industry they're in

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