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"I did once, all that happened was he saw it as weakness and did it again confident he'd be forgiven again... He wasn't. " What if he hadn't again, do you think it would of worked? | |||
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"No. There's no excuse for it within our relationship. It's not as if I'm not ok with him playing with others. If he went behind my back it would be a huge betrayal. I'd lose all trust and once that's gone the relationship is dead. The sex with someone else is never what hurts, it's the behind your back part. Lu " I agree, it's not the act, it's the deceit, but I'm guessing you wouldn't be able to forgive this kind of thing. | |||
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"I've been cheated on once, I got out of there immediately. I'd say I would do the same if it happened again, though if I were married with kids it would make my decision more difficult." Do you think you'd be able to work through that for the sake of children? | |||
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"No. There's no excuse for it within our relationship. It's not as if I'm not ok with him playing with others. If he went behind my back it would be a huge betrayal. I'd lose all trust and once that's gone the relationship is dead. The sex with someone else is never what hurts, it's the behind your back part. Lu I agree, it's not the act, it's the deceit, but I'm guessing you wouldn't be able to forgive this kind of thing. " I'd forgive him...eventually. But I couldn't be with him. Honesty is the most important thing to me within a relationship, once that's gone, the rest is worthless. Lu | |||
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"I have done and forgive and like said previous I think the other part take it as a weakness and think they can get away with it all the time plays with every emotion going really I went though twice before I ended it all " I get that, and feel for you, it's an awful thing to experience. | |||
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"I've been cheated on once, I got out of there immediately. I'd say I would do the same if it happened again, though if I were married with kids it would make my decision more difficult. Do you think you'd be able to work through that for the sake of children? " I think I would try, kids shouldn't suffer. If I could beleive she wouldn't cheat again then I think I would try and stay together. | |||
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"I tried soooo hard to forgive but it tore me apart.. if i were cheated on again i wouldnt even fight id just walk for my own sanity and self worth. " That's understandable, I've seen people border on breakdowns because of infidelity. | |||
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"It’s kills you if done more than once my ex did twice first tome forgive and stayed together for kids and worked things out but was always on the back of my mind and got me close to a breakdown it makes you feel worthless 2nd time I didn’t even fight I was gone and fought for my rights with kids etc if I had stayed I would have being rock bottom " I am glad you had the strength to walk away and fought your corner for your kids. | |||
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"No. Although it would always depend on circumstances. My ex walked out 2 days after I got out of hospital having nearly died. The lies and deceit I uncovered followed by the gaslighting were worse than the 18month affair. In a weak moment I did try to forgive him (which he begged for as soon as he saw I was moving on!)but I couldn’t and so walked away. " Yes, well that's a total other level of deceitfullness there, and understand you walking away. | |||
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"It depends on the relationship, the circumstances, the motive and the willingness to both learn from what's happened. Sometimes it's possible and can even makea relationship stronger other times its not worth the effort " Could you forgive any infidelity, in relationship your in now, or any hypothetical relationship? | |||
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"One of the many reasons I don't want another traditional relationship is because I don't think happy monogamy is possible. I don't think I could fully forgive a 'slip ' " Do you think that's possibly why many cheat, or have a 'slop' as you put it? | |||
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"Never cheated on anyone,and would never forgive someone who cheated on me no matter what.theyd be gone " It's good that you stick to your standards | |||
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"It depends on the relationship, the circumstances, the motive and the willingness to both learn from what's happened. Sometimes it's possible and can even makea relationship stronger other times its not worth the effort Could you forgive any infidelity, in relationship your in now, or any hypothetical relationship? " The short answer is I don't know. We've been together 40 year, have experienced the usual ups and downs of a long relationship and faced and overcome various problems together. I would have to look at the bigger picture before I made a decision. Neither of us has ever been unfaithful sexually or emotionally though. In a new relationship I'd probably walk away. | |||
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"It depends on the relationship, the circumstances, the motive and the willingness to both learn from what's happened. Sometimes it's possible and can even makea relationship stronger other times its not worth the effort Could you forgive any infidelity, in relationship your in now, or any hypothetical relationship? The short answer is I don't know. We've been together 40 year, have experienced the usual ups and downs of a long relationship and faced and overcome various problems together. I would have to look at the bigger picture before I made a decision. Neither of us has ever been unfaithful sexually or emotionally though. In a new relationship I'd probably walk away. " Well thanks for taking the time to answer and for sharing this. | |||
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"It depends on the relationship, the circumstances, the motive and the willingness to both learn from what's happened. Sometimes it's possible and can even makea relationship stronger other times its not worth the effort Could you forgive any infidelity, in relationship your in now, or any hypothetical relationship? The short answer is I don't know. We've been together 40 year, have experienced the usual ups and downs of a long relationship and faced and overcome various problems together. I would have to look at the bigger picture before I made a decision. Neither of us has ever been unfaithful sexually or emotionally though. In a new relationship I'd probably walk away. " What would you class as being emotionally unfaithful? | |||
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"It depends on the relationship, the circumstances, the motive and the willingness to both learn from what's happened. Sometimes it's possible and can even makea relationship stronger other times its not worth the effort Could you forgive any infidelity, in relationship your in now, or any hypothetical relationship? The short answer is I don't know. We've been together 40 year, have experienced the usual ups and downs of a long relationship and faced and overcome various problems together. I would have to look at the bigger picture before I made a decision. Neither of us has ever been unfaithful sexually or emotionally though. In a new relationship I'd probably walk away. What would you class as being emotionally unfaithful?" Stuff like forming an intimate emotional bond with someone that involved discussing things with them that they hadn't discussed with me. I don't mean friends obviously it's OK for people to have relationships other than their primary partner or partners. | |||
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"It depends on the relationship, the circumstances, the motive and the willingness to both learn from what's happened. Sometimes it's possible and can even makea relationship stronger other times its not worth the effort Could you forgive any infidelity, in relationship your in now, or any hypothetical relationship? The short answer is I don't know. We've been together 40 year, have experienced the usual ups and downs of a long relationship and faced and overcome various problems together. I would have to look at the bigger picture before I made a decision. Neither of us has ever been unfaithful sexually or emotionally though. In a new relationship I'd probably walk away. What would you class as being emotionally unfaithful? Stuff like forming an intimate emotional bond with someone that involved discussing things with them that they hadn't discussed with me. I don't mean friends obviously it's OK for people to have relationships other than their primary partner or partners. " I get that. That’s why I never understand when people say their husband’s/wife’s best friend is a member of the opposite sex and they tell each other everything. To me, that’s being emotionally unfaithful. I’d rather they had meaningless sex with a stranger. | |||
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"One of the many reasons I don't want another traditional relationship is because I don't think happy monogamy is possible. I don't think I could fully forgive a 'slip ' Do you think that's possibly why many cheat, or have a 'slop' as you put it? " A slop? People cheat for different reasons. But the lie is still the same. | |||
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"It depends on the relationship, the circumstances, the motive and the willingness to both learn from what's happened. Sometimes it's possible and can even makea relationship stronger other times its not worth the effort Could you forgive any infidelity, in relationship your in now, or any hypothetical relationship? The short answer is I don't know. We've been together 40 year, have experienced the usual ups and downs of a long relationship and faced and overcome various problems together. I would have to look at the bigger picture before I made a decision. Neither of us has ever been unfaithful sexually or emotionally though. In a new relationship I'd probably walk away. What would you class as being emotionally unfaithful? Stuff like forming an intimate emotional bond with someone that involved discussing things with them that they hadn't discussed with me. I don't mean friends obviously it's OK for people to have relationships other than their primary partner or partners. I get that. That’s why I never understand when people say their husband’s/wife’s best friend is a member of the opposite sex and they tell each other everything. To me, that’s being emotionally unfaithful. I’d rather they had meaningless sex with a stranger." When people discuss problems with their partner on here I often think "just go and shag a random. It's far less damaging than you laying bare their faults and vulnerabilities to other people" | |||
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"Can infidelity be forgiven? Is this something you could, would or should do? Do you even think it is possible? There's many threads on here about cheating men and cheating women, and I am not saying I condone it, as it can be so destructive and has the potential to tear families apart, but can a relationship come back from this? Would you even try to repair the damage, or would that be it, end of. I have my hard hat and safety goggles at the ready for possible onslaught " I think I could have eventually forgiven the infidelity, if it hadnt been so crafty, sustained and calculated. A one off, maybe, but to find out on the same day your father dies, that they made the decision to end things was the final nail in the coffin. | |||
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"One of the many reasons I don't want another traditional relationship is because I don't think happy monogamy is possible. I don't think I could fully forgive a 'slip ' Do you think that's possibly why many cheat, or have a 'slop' as you put it? A slop? People cheat for different reasons. But the lie is still the same. " Haha, these bloody fat thumbs! But yes, I agree, the lie is still the same. | |||
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"My ex cheated on me with his ex wife after we’d been together 6 months , I loved him so much and I was young so I forgave him but I never forgot it !" Is that why the relationship ultimately ended? | |||
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" I’d rather they had meaningless sex with a stranger. When people discuss problems with their partner on here I often think "just go and shag a random. It's far less damaging than you laying bare their faults and vulnerabilities to other people" " Totally agree with this. One of the most damaging aspects for me was that he had shared very personal things about me, things which only he knew and I trusted him implicitly with, with the other woman. If he had just been shagging her, it wouldn’t have been so damaging. | |||
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"Can infidelity be forgiven? Is this something you could, would or should do? Do you even think it is possible? There's many threads on here about cheating men and cheating women, and I am not saying I condone it, as it can be so destructive and has the potential to tear families apart, but can a relationship come back from this? Would you even try to repair the damage, or would that be it, end of. I have my hard hat and safety goggles at the ready for possible onslaught I think I could have eventually forgiven the infidelity, if it hadnt been so crafty, sustained and calculated. A one off, maybe, but to find out on the same day your father dies, that they made the decision to end things was the final nail in the coffin." Well that seems there was a bit more at play in what you describe, and sounds like you dodged a bullet there. | |||
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"Everyone's situation is different. Cheating is often not the real problem but an indication or symptom that there are other issues in the relationship, communication, investment of time and emotion, respect. If and when it happens often a quick fuck can be a different dynamic to an affair... And 1000 different permutations so I don't think there is a one size fits all answer. I do wish however that we could show more empathy, forgiveness and understanding to people who have "transgressed" or made mistakes. We are all human and none of us are perfect. " Great contribution sir, appreciate it, but would or could you forgive in that situation? | |||
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" I’d rather they had meaningless sex with a stranger. When people discuss problems with their partner on here I often think "just go and shag a random. It's far less damaging than you laying bare their faults and vulnerabilities to other people" Totally agree with this. One of the most damaging aspects for me was that he had shared very personal things about me, things which only he knew and I trusted him implicitly with, with the other woman. If he had just been shagging her, it wouldn’t have been so damaging." Agree with this, it's almost a different kind of betrayal to share personal and intimate things with another person like that. | |||
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"I’m interested, did those who cheated want to be forgiven and to continue in the marriage or relationship? In my case, I was the one who cheated but I didn’t want or ask to be forgiven. " Did your partner make any effort to try salvage the relationship? | |||
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"I’m interested, did those who cheated want to be forgiven and to continue in the marriage or relationship? In my case, I was the one who cheated but I didn’t want or ask to be forgiven. Did your partner make any effort to try salvage the relationship? " Would have been pointless, I didn’t want to salvage it. The relationship was over in my eyes. I wanted a divorce. | |||
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"Everyone's situation is different. Cheating is often not the real problem but an indication or symptom that there are other issues in the relationship, communication, investment of time and emotion, respect. If and when it happens often a quick fuck can be a different dynamic to an affair... And 1000 different permutations so I don't think there is a one size fits all answer. I do wish however that we could show more empathy, forgiveness and understanding to people who have "transgressed" or made mistakes. We are all human and none of us are perfect. Great contribution sir, appreciate it, but would or could you forgive in that situation? " Hypothetically... If it were meaningless sex,I'd like to think probably yes, if it were more intimate and emotional it would be much harder for me. Much easier to say than if genuinely confronted with the situation though. If I were with someone a long time I'd have more invested to make more efforts to try and work things out. Genuine forgiveness takes time though. Life is short and if your are with someone who apart from a fuck, makes you happy... Its worth some effort I'd say. | |||
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"Kindness is a weakness. You never ever give second chances as humans take the piss and will do it again. You move on without them. Let them destroy someone else's life which they will do in time." I moved on. Didn’t destroy anyone’s life Why do some people always have to make everything a drama? | |||
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"Kindness is a weakness. You never ever give second chances as humans take the piss and will do it again. You move on without them. Let them destroy someone else's life which they will do in time. I moved on. Didn’t destroy anyone’s life Why do some people always have to make everything a drama?" You may not have done but there is no denying that infidelity can and does have far reaching consequences for many. | |||
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"Kindness is a weakness. You never ever give second chances as humans take the piss and will do it again. You move on without them. Let them destroy someone else's life which they will do in time. I moved on. Didn’t destroy anyone’s life Why do some people always have to make everything a drama? You may not have done but there is no denying that infidelity can and does have far reaching consequences for many. " I think it’s the actions surrounding the infidelity that can cause far reaching consequences, not necessarily the act of infidelity. | |||
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"The reason I'm single is because I was cheated on. I can't forgive her for that so I'm happy to stay single rather than risk giving my heart away again." Same. I can't trust anyone. | |||
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"The reason I'm single is because I was cheated on. I can't forgive her for that so I'm happy to stay single rather than risk giving my heart away again. Same. I can't trust anyone." This on so many levels..one day | |||
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"No. There's no excuse for it within our relationship. It's not as if I'm not ok with him playing with others. If he went behind my back it would be a huge betrayal. I'd lose all trust and once that's gone the relationship is dead. The sex with someone else is never what hurts, it's the behind your back part. Lu " 100% They don't lie to protect you, they lie to protect themselves. I'd potentially forgive if they were on a night out, did what they did and told me right away. I'd respect the honesty. Hiding it tho, that's deceptive and a conscious decision to keep something pretty fucking important from you. How dare someone withold information that may be life changing and think that's OK? | |||
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"No. There's no excuse for it within our relationship. It's not as if I'm not ok with him playing with others. If he went behind my back it would be a huge betrayal. I'd lose all trust and once that's gone the relationship is dead. The sex with someone else is never what hurts, it's the behind your back part. Lu 100% They don't lie to protect you, they lie to protect themselves. I'd potentially forgive if they were on a night out, did what they did and told me right away. I'd respect the honesty. Hiding it tho, that's deceptive and a conscious decision to keep something pretty fucking important from you. How dare someone withold information that may be life changing and think that's OK? " Yes, I agree that it's the deceitfulness and lies that are more hurtful. And in no way is that to protect unknowing partner. | |||
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"For me it’s a no. Cheating to me is the ultimate lack of respect. Not putting myself through that again for anybody. " I agree that it really isn't something I would do to anyone, but given how many threats there is on the subject, was just wondering if anyone had managed salvage a relationship from this. | |||
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"No. There's no excuse for it within our relationship. It's not as if I'm not ok with him playing with others. If he went behind my back it would be a huge betrayal. I'd lose all trust and once that's gone the relationship is dead. The sex with someone else is never what hurts, it's the behind your back part. Lu 100% They don't lie to protect you, they lie to protect themselves. I'd potentially forgive if they were on a night out, did what they did and told me right away. I'd respect the honesty. Hiding it tho, that's deceptive and a conscious decision to keep something pretty fucking important from you. How dare someone withold information that may be life changing and think that's OK? " That’s what happened to my friend, her hubby had too much to drink at works night out then cheated on her. He was overcome with guilt, confessed a couple days later, he moved out they talked it over and had a toddler so that may have been why they got back together but 12 years on they seem stronger than ever and do a lot more family things than they were doing prior to the affair. I think if both parties are honest about why the affair happened and can talk everything through there is a chance to salvage it but they need to be completely honest and that’s not always easy | |||
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" That’s what happened to my friend, her hubby had too much to drink at works night out then cheated on her. He was overcome with guilt, confessed a couple days later, he moved out they talked it over and had a toddler so that may have been why they got back together but 12 years on they seem stronger than ever and do a lot more family things than they were doing prior to the affair. I think if both parties are honest about why the affair happened and can talk everything through there is a chance to salvage it but they need to be completely honest and that’s not always easy " That is great that they have managed to salvage their relationship and aven better that they are stronger than before | |||
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"I tried to forgive and move on (for the sake of the children) but even though he was truly sorry and I was reasonably confident he wouldn’t do it again (and even understood why he’d been tempted in the first place), it just killed something for me. I think I just lost respect for him and once that’s gone, it’s game over. We struggled on for about 3 years (lots of marriage counselling etc) and I just woke up one morning and realised it would never be the same again. As others have said, it’s the deceit not the action itself ..." I agree, once respect is lost for a partner, it is very hard to rebuild, as with trust. And yes I agree also, it isn't the act, it's the deceit. | |||
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" That’s what happened to my friend, her hubby had too much to drink at works night out then cheated on her. He was overcome with guilt, confessed a couple days later, he moved out they talked it over and had a toddler so that may have been why they got back together but 12 years on they seem stronger than ever and do a lot more family things than they were doing prior to the affair. I think if both parties are honest about why the affair happened and can talk everything through there is a chance to salvage it but they need to be completely honest and that’s not always easy That is great that they have managed to salvage their relationship and aven better that they are stronger than before " I think my friend realised they had got so caught up in their baby that they had forgotten each other so it worked for them although he didn’t try to blame her he accepted total responsibility which helps too | |||
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" That’s what happened to my friend, her hubby had too much to drink at works night out then cheated on her. He was overcome with guilt, confessed a couple days later, he moved out they talked it over and had a toddler so that may have been why they got back together but 12 years on they seem stronger than ever and do a lot more family things than they were doing prior to the affair. I think if both parties are honest about why the affair happened and can talk everything through there is a chance to salvage it but they need to be completely honest and that’s not always easy That is great that they have managed to salvage their relationship and aven better that they are stronger than before I think my friend realised they had got so caught up in their baby that they had forgotten each other so it worked for them although he didn’t try to blame her he accepted total responsibility which helps too " Yes, the ability to see from each others point of view is always ideal, but in the moment can be rather difficult, and openness and honesty much needed as well as being able to listen properly. | |||
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"In all these scenarios, it seems as everyone thinks the one cheating wants to be forgiven. That’s not always the case. I cheated on my ex husband, and I didn’t want or ask for forgiveness. Do I think I was the devil incarnate and him the totally innocent party? Do I fuck! Sex was never the reason I cheated. It was simply that I fell in love with someone else." This can be the case, and your situation also can be the case, and more so than some would imagine would be my guess. I wouldn't presume anyone to be the devil incarnate in that instance either. | |||
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"I did once, all that happened was he saw it as weakness and did it again confident he'd be forgiven again... He wasn't. " id go with this. if you accept someones bad behaviour they will see that as weakness and do it again. | |||
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"In all these scenarios, it seems as everyone thinks the one cheating wants to be forgiven. That’s not always the case. I cheated on my ex husband, and I didn’t want or ask for forgiveness. Do I think I was the devil incarnate and him the totally innocent party? Do I fuck! Sex was never the reason I cheated. It was simply that I fell in love with someone else." My ex not only wanted forgiveness, he expected it. He's never really let it go and has stalked me ever since (coming up to 5 years) trying to contact me. From about 6 months after we split up I've made no contact as every conversion resulted in me being guilted and him trying to convince me I was being irrational for not taking him back and that him cheating was all my fault anyway. | |||
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