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"We are a happy safe married cpl and have just past our 31st year Only me playing now Mrs knows always Please see our verification But so many judge me as a cheat Why ? " Simple answer. Get your Mrs to confirm that she knows by phone to any potential meets. Would she do that? | |||
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"I'll stab in the dark and say because people have been burned before. The shitty behaviour of others impacts how people conduct their fab life from that point on." Ignore the nasty comments. No need for it we all have our preferences. Gorgeous pictures btw | |||
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"I'll stab in the dark and say because people have been burned before. The shitty behaviour of others impacts how people conduct their fab life from that point on. Ignore the nasty comments. No need for it we all have our preferences. Gorgeous pictures btw" What nasty comments??? | |||
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"We are a happy safe married cpl and have just past our 31st year Only me playing now Mrs knows always Please see our verification But so many judge me as a cheat Why ? " Some women are happy to meet married men, some even prefer us as it’s less complicated. Others don’t want to share, it’s their preference. If you are married why don’t you use a couples profile that you both have access to. | |||
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"I'll stab in the dark and say because people have been burned before. The shitty behaviour of others impacts how people conduct their fab life from that point on. Ignore the nasty comments. No need for it we all have our preferences. Gorgeous pictures btw What nasty comments???" I mean i generally some people can be mean regardless of awnser im not sure if i miss read the comment now lol. Im tired apologies in advance | |||
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"I'll stab in the dark and say because people have been burned before. The shitty behaviour of others impacts how people conduct their fab life from that point on. Ignore the nasty comments. No need for it we all have our preferences. Gorgeous pictures btw What nasty comments??? I mean i generally some people can be mean regardless of awnser im not sure if i miss read the comment now lol. Im tired apologies in advance " I see no nasty comments | |||
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"We are a happy safe married cpl and have just past our 31st year Only me playing now Mrs knows always Please see our verification But so many judge me as a cheat Why ? Some women are happy to meet married men, some even prefer us as it’s less complicated. Others don’t want to share, it’s their preference. If you are married why don’t you use a couples profile that you both have access to. " This | |||
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"I can't be arsed with the drama and limitations of meeting married people. They can't accommodate or meet evenings and weekends etc .. I'm not a free prostitute to meet on a Tuesday afternoon because your wife isn't giving you any! And the obvious deception and hurt it may cause someone. Dramarama - no thanks. " So that’s a maybe then ?! | |||
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"I can't be arsed with the drama and limitations of meeting married people. They can't accommodate or meet evenings and weekends etc .. I'm not a free prostitute to meet on a Tuesday afternoon because your wife isn't giving you any! And the obvious deception and hurt it may cause someone. Dramarama - no thanks. So that’s a maybe then ?!" I'm not free on Tuesdays | |||
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"We are a happy safe married cpl and have just past our 31st year Only me playing now Mrs knows always Please see our verification But so many judge me as a cheat Why ? " I have a similar situation. A few have been aggressive in their assumptions. Their opinion does not bother me, just means I am saved from some grief! But I would say, most are really not bothered, they are more concerned that I am not a stalker, serial killer or just a common arsehole! | |||
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" Simple answer. Get your Mrs to confirm that she knows by phone to any potential meets. Would she do that?" I read this and think, "can he come out to play please" My wife is happy for me to play but, doesn't want to know about it. Getting a call to "prove" (although I am sure if they are cheating, any woman could make the call) they are genuine is pretty ridiculous! I am not disparaging the other person. There reasons are there own, and need no justification. Just, why would you want/need to go through the additional hassle! If someone is hesitant that I am married and open, then they are not for me. | |||
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"I am happy to meet married men I'm single Their relationship status is not my issue Sx" Precisely! I have met married people in the past, some admit that they are and he/she does not know some don't. It's not my relationship, it is their choice to be open and honest with their partner or not, and has nothing to do with me. Would it be better for those having marital problems to discuss it? Possibly, but people are fickle. Some married people enjoy the cheating aspect, the naughty sneaking around, some just have no option of talking to there other half about it. As well as a multitude of reasons between. Who are we to judge what a person does or, does not do or, say to their partner. It is ultimately their choice. | |||
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"I'll stab in the dark and say because people have been burned before. The shitty behaviour of others impacts how people conduct their fab life from that point on. Ignore the nasty comments. No need for it we all have our preferences. Gorgeous pictures btw What nasty comments??? I mean i generally some people can be mean regardless of awnser im not sure if i miss read the comment now lol. Im tired apologies in advance " I know what you meant. | |||
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"We are a happy safe married cpl and have just past our 31st year Only me playing now Mrs knows always Please see our verification But so many judge me as a cheat Why ? " I won't meet one half of a swinging couple where the partner knows. I don't want them to discuss my meet. If they judge you as a cheat you're not compatible. Don't worry about what they think, you and your wife know the truth. | |||
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"It's interesting how there's a phenomenon of men in couples who are seeking fun away from their partner, and not the other way around. I can't even count the number of men who contact me from couples profiles, telling me she doesn't play, or pretending to be her. One even turned it around on me recently, and told me I was stupid for not sussing him out earlier. My profile clearly says I only speak to the woman of the couple. I also have removed that I am looking for MF couples." Married women cheat too, they just don't make fake couples profiles. | |||
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"It's interesting how there's a phenomenon of men in couples who are seeking fun away from their partner, and not the other way around. I can't even count the number of men who contact me from couples profiles, telling me she doesn't play, or pretending to be her. One even turned it around on me recently, and told me I was stupid for not sussing him out earlier. My profile clearly says I only speak to the woman of the couple. I also have removed that I am looking for MF couples. Married women cheat too, they just don't make fake couples profiles. " I agree, but it's the phenomenon of "fake" couples profiles. | |||
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"I don't want to be anywhere near married/attached men, because a guy told me he was divorced, and spent weeks trying to convince me of this, which I then believed.... and when I met up with him, his wife was tracking and following him, and then physically attacked me and beat me up - twice. And then because she was his wife, and had proof that she had purchased his phone, she got hold of my number and proceeded to harass me for weeks after. So why would I believe any guy who is married? You are bringing a third person in to the situation, and putting me at risk. You can't control how your wife will react." I recently spent 2 years with a married man whom I was assured on multiple occasions was separated and they were only still married because divorce was an expense neither of them wanted. Then lockdown happened and it came to light that his wife took her vows just as seriously as the day she made them. Even more light was shed on the situation and not only that, but their wedding anniversary was the same date as "our anniversary" Yeah, I'm pretty fucking vomitty over it all and I've discovered I'm full of rage about it. I was played good and proper and being a pawn in someone's game is sick, twisted and all kind of fucked up. I don't do games of the emotional kind, they're for psychos or narcissists. So unfortunately OP, unless I was to meet someone's wife, and see their entire back catalogue of 31 years of photos and life they'd built together, I ain't believing jack shit. | |||
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"The trouble you have OP is you "say" your other half is aware - but can you actually prove that? Can understand people being cynical especially as the last veri you have that mentions you as a couple was two and a half years ago. Not saying you *are* cheating, just I can understand why some might think you are - if you have a way of showing your other half is aware, or if she'd be willing to confirm it to anyone that wants it - perhaps include that in your profile text?" So are we saying this man is owned by his wife, and that unless we have her permission we will not get involved? Or maybe, we could treat him as an adult and let him have his private life without needing to control it on behalf of his wife. | |||
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"I can't be arsed with the drama and limitations of meeting married people. They can't accommodate or meet evenings and weekends etc .. I'm not a free prostitute to meet on a Tuesday afternoon because your wife isn't giving you any! And the obvious deception and hurt it may cause someone. Dramarama - no thanks. " well said | |||
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"The trouble you have OP is you "say" your other half is aware - but can you actually prove that? Can understand people being cynical especially as the last veri you have that mentions you as a couple was two and a half years ago. Not saying you *are* cheating, just I can understand why some might think you are - if you have a way of showing your other half is aware, or if she'd be willing to confirm it to anyone that wants it - perhaps include that in your profile text? So are we saying this man is owned by his wife, and that unless we have her permission we will not get involved? Or maybe, we could treat him as an adult and let him have his private life without needing to control it on behalf of his wife. " Nobody is saying this man is owned by his wife, what's quite clearly being said is that those that don't want to get caught up as collateral damage in someone else's web of deceit and possible crushing of peoples lives may want proof, especially if they've been caught out by "pretend permission" before. | |||
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"When I've been in poly situations, it's a major turn on for my man to be desired by other women. I would love a call with her before they meet so I can discuss what they might get up to. I may not be physically involved, but I would want to make the most of the situation." I totally get this, I love knowing my husband is desired. The thought of him going off and giving a female lots of pleasure I find immensely exciting. For him to return to me where I can see the flush of sex on his face. It heightens our sex life too. I dont feel threatened, as a cuckquean which I might add is very different to male cuck relationships is hard for other females to understand...classed a "weird" set up. But there are females that find it very sexy knowing I know. | |||
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"When I've been in poly situations, it's a major turn on for my man to be desired by other women. I would love a call with her before they meet so I can discuss what they might get up to. I may not be physically involved, but I would want to make the most of the situation. I totally get this, I love knowing my husband is desired. The thought of him going off and giving a female lots of pleasure I find immensely exciting. For him to return to me where I can see the flush of sex on his face. It heightens our sex life too. I dont feel threatened, as a cuckquean which I might add is very different to male cuck relationships is hard for other females to understand...classed a "weird" set up. But there are females that find it very sexy knowing I know." I'm so encouraged to hear anecdotes like this. And for me this is ethical non monogamy. You cant make decisions, or consent to things, without being informed. | |||
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"Being a married man, I find this an interesting post. I have had a couples profile on here with my wife, and then altered the profile as it became me meeting on my own, but with consent, and even then, it was frowned upon, I was a fraud, and should be at home with my wife or get a divorce, and we ended up turning our back with the scene. Although I’m back, I believe in being honest, and respect those that don’t wish to get involved. My wife now has us elsewhere, but I’m not keen. We all have different routes to getting here, not everything is clear and simple, and I believe that those that are honest, deserve a chance." What do you mean she has you elsewhere? Not keen about what? | |||
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"I really don’t understand the extreme misconceptions towards married men playing alone, especially they say their wife is aware. I’m a married woman and we play totally separately. I mean, introducing our meets to eachothers , going clubs together or verify the other part knows to others are out of question and never happens! Yet, we haven’t come across our settlements caused any issue towards our potential meets. My only guess most woman who calls themselves swingers but doesn’t want to meet a married man, just like the possibility of having a relationship with their meets at some point and simply creates an excuse to not meeting them. I happily meet them (the ones I attracted to) I don’t see any wrong in that either. Swinging evolved however it’s known that actually married people start swapping their spouses in the very begining. " You can't understand why a woman wouldn't want to fuck a married man if his wife was unaware and hadn't given her consent? Swingers cheat too. | |||
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"I really don’t understand the extreme misconceptions towards married men playing alone, especially they say their wife is aware. I’m a married woman and we play totally separately. I mean, introducing our meets to eachothers , going clubs together or verify the other part knows to others are out of question and never happens! Yet, we haven’t come across our settlements caused any issue towards our potential meets. My only guess most woman who calls themselves swingers but doesn’t want to meet a married man, just like the possibility of having a relationship with their meets at some point and simply creates an excuse to not meeting them. I happily meet them (the ones I attracted to) I don’t see any wrong in that either. Swinging evolved however it’s known that actually married people start swapping their spouses in the very begining. " I could have easily destroyed a family because I believed what he said about being separated, same as I could easily destroy a family if I believed someone was meeting with their partners consent when actually not only was there no consent but she was totally in the dark. Not everyone tells the truth, and I've learnt that the hard way. I've met couples in the past, so that blows your wanting a relationship theory out the water, and it's been me who's stopped meeting those couples when the bloke wants to then meet on the sly without the wife knowing. | |||
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" You can't understand why a woman wouldn't want to fuck a married man if his wife was unaware and hadn't given her consent? Swingers cheat too. " I understand if you don’t want to meet a guy who is cheating, I wouldn’t either but not every married man play solo means they are cheating, like every married women plays solo is not cheating either. Not all couples chooses to play together and that’s between them. I find few judgements here quite harsh towards married men. I wouldn’t want my husband to experience those judgements personally. That’s all x | |||
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" You can't understand why a woman wouldn't want to fuck a married man if his wife was unaware and hadn't given her consent? Swingers cheat too. I understand if you don’t want to meet a guy who is cheating, I wouldn’t either but not every married man play solo means they are cheating, like every married women plays solo is not cheating either. Not all couples chooses to play together and that’s between them. I find few judgements here quite harsh towards married men. I wouldn’t want my husband to experience those judgements personally. That’s all x" Your getting very deep now. Just for the record I wouldn’t meet married men either. Mainly because I'm not attracted to men | |||
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"When I've been in poly situations, it's a major turn on for my man to be desired by other women. I would love a call with her before they meet so I can discuss what they might get up to. I may not be physically involved, but I would want to make the most of the situation. I totally get this, I love knowing my husband is desired. The thought of him going off and giving a female lots of pleasure I find immensely exciting. For him to return to me where I can see the flush of sex on his face. It heightens our sex life too. I dont feel threatened, as a cuckquean which I might add is very different to male cuck relationships is hard for other females to understand...classed a "weird" set up. But there are females that find it very sexy knowing I know. I'm so encouraged to hear anecdotes like this. And for me this is ethical non monogamy. You cant make decisions, or consent to things, without being informed." I have actually spoken to a single female and instructed her on what to wear ready for their meet ( we had met her previously on a few occasions for a ffm) if meets can not take place at their home for what ever reason we've paid for hotels for her to stay in. I'm always happy to go along to a social meet to make any female feel comfortable and reassured. | |||
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"The trouble you have OP is you "say" your other half is aware - but can you actually prove that? Can understand people being cynical especially as the last veri you have that mentions you as a couple was two and a half years ago. Not saying you *are* cheating, just I can understand why some might think you are - if you have a way of showing your other half is aware, or if she'd be willing to confirm it to anyone that wants it - perhaps include that in your profile text? So are we saying this man is owned by his wife, and that unless we have her permission we will not get involved? Or maybe, we could treat him as an adult and let him have his private life without needing to control it on behalf of his wife. " I'm not saying that in the slightest - purely saying I can understand why some people would be cynical about meeting someone who "says" their partner is aware without having "proof" that they are. Some people don't want to get involved in situations that potentially could lead to misery for all concerned and safeguard themselves by avoiding the potential for that to arise. Ultimately it comes down to the individuals concerned to make that judgement call and people in the OPs situation have to accept that will be the case. I actually applaud the OP for being open and honest about it - there are many that aren't but in doing so he potentially leaves himself open to rejection when by providing that "proof" it may not be - not saying his privacy and that of his partner shouldn't be respected at all just presenting the dilemma that it leaves others with, which essentially boils down to "believe the word of a random stranger on the internet or move on to someone who *seems* to be unattached" (which I know is another belief in a random stranger scenario in itself) | |||
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"When I've been in poly situations, it's a major turn on for my man to be desired by other women. I would love a call with her before they meet so I can discuss what they might get up to. I may not be physically involved, but I would want to make the most of the situation. I totally get this, I love knowing my husband is desired. The thought of him going off and giving a female lots of pleasure I find immensely exciting. For him to return to me where I can see the flush of sex on his face. It heightens our sex life too. I dont feel threatened, as a cuckquean which I might add is very different to male cuck relationships is hard for other females to understand...classed a "weird" set up. But there are females that find it very sexy knowing I know. I'm so encouraged to hear anecdotes like this. And for me this is ethical non monogamy. You cant make decisions, or consent to things, without being informed. I have actually spoken to a single female and instructed her on what to wear ready for their meet ( we had met her previously on a few occasions for a ffm) if meets can not take place at their home for what ever reason we've paid for hotels for her to stay in. I'm always happy to go along to a social meet to make any female feel comfortable and reassured. " Well, you know where i am | |||
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"A lot of very interesting, and valid points. I don't have a couples profile, as my partner would more than likely never be on it anyways, and given a couples profile could be fake, what's the difference? When it comes to proving having permission, I'd have no problem with that, with the right person or persons, not sure how the phone call or whatever would go like though, and a bit like jumping through hoops. But I can see where suspicion will obviously arise, guess its the old Catch23, or something like that " I've had this "why don't you have a couples profile". Because then I'd get everyone looking to meet a couple. I'd be happy for anyone to talk to my partner if they wanted. It's cool if people don't want to meet attached people for whatever reason but it is pretty funny to see some of the outrage about couples meeting separately considering this is a swingers site . | |||
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"A lot of very interesting, and valid points. I don't have a couples profile, as my partner would more than likely never be on it anyways, and given a couples profile could be fake, what's the difference? When it comes to proving having permission, I'd have no problem with that, with the right person or persons, not sure how the phone call or whatever would go like though, and a bit like jumping through hoops. But I can see where suspicion will obviously arise, guess its the old Catch23, or something like that I've had this "why don't you have a couples profile". Because then I'd get everyone looking to meet a couple. I'd be happy for anyone to talk to my partner if they wanted. It's cool if people don't want to meet attached people for whatever reason but it is pretty funny to see some of the outrage about couples meeting separately considering this is a swingers site . " I've had it a few times, and to be honest, there's quite a few reasons, first one mainly being, as you said, people looking to meet us as a couple, and I'd probably get a lot of unwanted messages and it's each to their own, we all have our preferences, and yes it can be amusing to see people enraged in a sense, be better just to engage in a conversation though, might learn something, or have better understanding | |||
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"A lot of very interesting, and valid points. I don't have a couples profile, as my partner would more than likely never be on it anyways, and given a couples profile could be fake, what's the difference? When it comes to proving having permission, I'd have no problem with that, with the right person or persons, not sure how the phone call or whatever would go like though, and a bit like jumping through hoops. But I can see where suspicion will obviously arise, guess its the old Catch23, or something like that I've had this "why don't you have a couples profile". Because then I'd get everyone looking to meet a couple. I'd be happy for anyone to talk to my partner if they wanted. It's cool if people don't want to meet attached people for whatever reason but it is pretty funny to see some of the outrage about couples meeting separately considering this is a swingers site . I've had it a few times, and to be honest, there's quite a few reasons, first one mainly being, as you said, people looking to meet us as a couple, and I'd probably get a lot of unwanted messages and it's each to their own, we all have our preferences, and yes it can be amusing to see people enraged in a sense, be better just to engage in a conversation though, might learn something, or have better understanding " Exactly. People complain when messaging a couples profile about them trying to get you to only meet one of them but then complain if you have a profile on your own too. You can't win. I'd see it as false advertising to have a couples profile personally because I'm not offering meets with a couple. I'm offering meets with me. My partner has a profile on here but he hasn't been online in 7 months . But he has another partner of nearly 2 years and isn't as socially involved in the scene as me so I get why he doesn't have much use for this site. Oh well, I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and concentrate on those who get it . | |||
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" Simple answer. Get your Mrs to confirm that she knows by phone to any potential meets. Would she do that? I read this and think, "can he come out to play please" My wife is happy for me to play but, doesn't want to know about it. Getting a call to "prove" (although I am sure if they are cheating, any woman could make the call) they are genuine is pretty ridiculous! I am not disparaging the other person. There reasons are there own, and need no justification. Just, why would you want/need to go through the additional hassle! If someone is hesitant that I am married and open, then they are not for me. " Exactly, some people get it and some don’t. I won’t accom females at home but will book apartments or hotels and my availability is better than most singles as kids are grown up. In my experience here very few people are looking for exclusive relationships, the single women I see have other guys so it’s not really any different to an open marriage | |||
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"A lot of very interesting, and valid points. I don't have a couples profile, as my partner would more than likely never be on it anyways, and given a couples profile could be fake, what's the difference? When it comes to proving having permission, I'd have no problem with that, with the right person or persons, not sure how the phone call or whatever would go like though, and a bit like jumping through hoops. But I can see where suspicion will obviously arise, guess its the old Catch23, or something like that I've had this "why don't you have a couples profile". Because then I'd get everyone looking to meet a couple. I'd be happy for anyone to talk to my partner if they wanted. It's cool if people don't want to meet attached people for whatever reason but it is pretty funny to see some of the outrage about couples meeting separately considering this is a swingers site . " A good point, well made. The whole point of couples on here is that it is a place they can be ethically non-monogamous. That could be in a club, together or separately. Everyone is different but the assumption should not be that everyone is a liar or cheat. | |||
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"would never meet anyone who is married, m or f, either stick with the relationdhip or leave, understand there may be kids etc, but if you arent happy then you arent happy so grow a pair and move on" We’re both very happy with our marriage we just like to have extra boy and girlfriends , there’s none of the jealousy and issues that you find with married swinging couples who insist on having same room sex, to us that is weird ! | |||
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"A lot of very interesting, and valid points. I don't have a couples profile, as my partner would more than likely never be on it anyways, and given a couples profile could be fake, what's the difference? When it comes to proving having permission, I'd have no problem with that, with the right person or persons, not sure how the phone call or whatever would go like though, and a bit like jumping through hoops. But I can see where suspicion will obviously arise, guess its the old Catch23, or something like that I've had this "why don't you have a couples profile". Because then I'd get everyone looking to meet a couple. I'd be happy for anyone to talk to my partner if they wanted. It's cool if people don't want to meet attached people for whatever reason but it is pretty funny to see some of the outrage about couples meeting separately considering this is a swingers site . A good point, well made. The whole point of couples on here is that it is a place they can be ethically non-monogamous. That could be in a club, together or separately. Everyone is different but the assumption should not be that everyone is a liar or cheat. " Yep. If my situation isn't for other people that is fine but they do not have more say than me and my partner about whether our relationship is acceptable or not and they don't get to say we're cheaters when doing anything we have mutually agreed to. | |||
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"Easy way to prove she knows is to make a video together saying she approves of you meeting solo. There are a lot of couples where the wife meets solo so why not the husband. For us personally we would always talk to the wife to make sure and have a social with both. And we would never play separate from each other as we are in this for us both. For mutual fun. " What a great idea. As long as the wife mentions the site and their username then that would be great. | |||
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" You can't understand why a woman wouldn't want to fuck a married man if his wife was unaware and hadn't given her consent? Swingers cheat too. I understand if you don’t want to meet a guy who is cheating, I wouldn’t either but not every married man play solo means they are cheating, like every married women plays solo is not cheating either. Not all couples chooses to play together and that’s between them. I find few judgements here quite harsh towards married men. I wouldn’t want my husband to experience those judgements personally. That’s all x" x | |||
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"would never meet anyone who is married, m or f, either stick with the relationdhip or leave, understand there may be kids etc, but if you arent happy then you arent happy so grow a pair and move on We’re both very happy with our marriage we just like to have extra boy and girlfriends , there’s none of the jealousy and issues that you find with married swinging couples who insist on having same room sex, to us that is weird ! " What turn us on is watching each other with other people it’s not a case of insisting we have sex in same room because we get jealous . It does absolutely nothing sexual for us to be separate I find that also rather strange..That’s what makes swinging so interesting is all the different dynamics . | |||
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"When I've been in poly situations, it's a major turn on for my man to be desired by other women. I would love a call with her before they meet so I can discuss what they might get up to. I may not be physically involved, but I would want to make the most of the situation. I totally get this, I love knowing my husband is desired. The thought of him going off and giving a female lots of pleasure I find immensely exciting. For him to return to me where I can see the flush of sex on his face. It heightens our sex life too. I dont feel threatened, as a cuckquean which I might add is very different to male cuck relationships is hard for other females to understand...classed a "weird" set up. But there are females that find it very sexy knowing I know. I'm so encouraged to hear anecdotes like this. And for me this is ethical non monogamy. You cant make decisions, or consent to things, without being informed. I have actually spoken to a single female and instructed her on what to wear ready for their meet ( we had met her previously on a few occasions for a ffm) if meets can not take place at their home for what ever reason we've paid for hotels for her to stay in. I'm always happy to go along to a social meet to make any female feel comfortable and reassured. Well, you know where i am" Ya saucy little mix If ever we're your way we'll have to meet up for a few drinks | |||
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"Pleased to see not all condemn me for playing alone Good idea to get a video done X" I don't think anyone condemns it, and it's no reflection on you personally or accusing you of being a cheat, however lots of people, myself included have been lied to by men with persmission (when there is none) or "single" men who's wives are completely unaware. Once you've been scammed you're more careful in the future, or simply don't put yourself in a position where the same mistake can be made again and you do things differently from that point on. It's a sad situation that people feel the need to be FBI agents and get confirmation, but it's down to the liars and situation manipulators unfortunately. | |||
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