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"Blokes are supposed to cum at the flash of a nipple, yet I struggle if it's someone I don't know, but again that's not a sign of how much I'm enjoying it. Sex is more an experience than a result as far as I'm concerned.... "Oh i like that, what a good way to describe it.... I'm stealing that and i am going to use it regularly... | |||
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"There's meets and there's dates...." Do you mean that you need to be dating someone in order to have an orgasm? | |||
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"Rarely. Though thankfully I have J who only needs seconds to rectify that "Fuck he is good  | |||
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"There's meets and there's dates.... Do you mean that you need to be dating someone in order to have an orgasm?" No, just for me it helps if it's someone familiar that I've taken some time to get to know and to actually want to shag for more than just an orgasm. If I want a mechanical orgasm then I know a bloke called Steve who's best at doing that for me That's just me though, we all have our own ways and wants and I think that's fine....  | |||
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"How often does it happen for you? I've had one once with one person from fab. Doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it, it just doesn't happen too often with another person." I very rarely cum when I am with some women or man , if they have or do something that I really enjoy it happens. My desire is to give them enjoyment, if they orgasm or cum, yes I feel a sense of enjoyment for them and myself. If it doesn't happen to either of us, well thats the way life is. try harder next time.......  | |||
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"Blokes are supposed to cum at the flash of a nipple, yet I struggle if it's someone I don't know, but again that's not a sign of how much I'm enjoying it. *** Sex is more an experience than a result as far as I'm concerned.... "*** I agree. If I want an orgasm I'll just have a wank. | |||
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 but I've only ever met people I've become very familiar with and there's usually a lot of getting to know them. I think that helps x | |||
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"Blokes are supposed to cum at the flash of a nipple, yet I struggle if it's someone I don't know, but again that's not a sign of how much I'm enjoying it. Sex is more an experience than a result as far as I'm concerned....
Oh i like that, what a good way to describe it....
I'm stealing that and i am going to use it regularly... "Some women give you such a hard time if you don’t come in 20mins, but I kind of get it , if she doesn’t come I feel like I’ve not done my job properly or she’s not enjoying it. But some people, male and female, come really easily and some don’t. I don’t think it’s always that much to do with skills, there’s a girl who practically comes when I touch her and others that take a long while or sometimes don’t come. And even the perfect BJ sometimes doesn’t work on me | |||
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"Don't some women cum much, much, much easier though? Like I've had women where you literally just get the tip in and they're like "stop or I'm gonna cum!" and others where they need things stuck up their bumhole and a wand on their clit to even consider an orgasm. I think ppl are just unique and different and that's kinda what makes sex awesome imho.... Imma shut up now with my man wisdom.... "We are all different and what works for one may not work for another. This is why communication is key during sex but some people are too embarrassed to ask for certain things which is a shame | |||
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so most of the guys I’ve met have made me orgasm | |||
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"Don't some women cum much, much, much easier though? Like I've had women where you literally just get the tip in and they're like "stop or I'm gonna cum!" and others where they need things stuck up their bumhole and a wand on their clit to even consider an orgasm. I think ppl are just unique and different and that's kinda what makes sex awesome imho.... Imma shut up now with my man wisdom.... "Your man wisdom is pretty wise in this case though. And it still depends on the fab meet. To answer the question though OP, with someone I know well I can have a speedy orgasm, but as much as I might enjoy sex the first couple of times with someone I've rarely actually got to proper explosion level the first few meets. Just one of the reasons I like to get to know someone first and am not a fan of one offs..... | |||
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"There's meets and there's dates...." Exactly, set the mood, drinks, music, maybe some food, treat her like a lady instead of just something to shag  | |||
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"There's meets and there's dates.... Exactly, set the mood, drinks, music, maybe some food, treat her like a lady instead of just something to shag "That sounds lovely  | |||
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"There's meets and there's dates.... Exactly, set the mood, drinks, music, maybe some food, treat her like a lady instead of just something to shag
That sounds lovely "Thats how I roll x it's all very exciting having quick meets but it's usually the guy that gets to cum, it's nice to know both parties are satisfied  | |||
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"There's meets and there's dates.... Exactly, set the mood, drinks, music, maybe some food, treat her like a lady instead of just something to shag "All my meets treat me like a lady | |||
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"There's meets and there's dates.... Exactly, set the mood, drinks, music, maybe some food, treat her like a lady instead of just something to shag
That sounds lovely
Thats how I roll x
it's all very exciting having quick meets but it's usually the guy that gets to cum, it's nice to know both parties are satisfied "I agree, I would rather spend a relaxed evening with no time constraints, sex then food, more sex, more food etc | |||
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"This has really surprised me.... In a good way?" I’m surprised at the lack of orgasming on meets...I honestly thought that there would be ....more! | |||
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Other than that I think I've orgasmed twice from fab meets, and one was with a toy. Like someone above said, it doesn't mean I don't enjoy it just difficult for me for some reason. | |||
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"There's meets and there's dates.... Exactly, set the mood, drinks, music, maybe some food, treat her like a lady instead of just something to shag
That sounds lovely
Thats how I roll x
it's all very exciting having quick meets but it's usually the guy that gets to cum, it's nice to know both parties are satisfied
I agree, I would rather spend a relaxed evening with no time constraints, sex then food, more sex, more food etc "That's how it is, relaxing for both and a whole lot more satisfying  | |||
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"I am disappointed reading how many women dont orgasm from meets on this thread, for me its about mutual pleasure, perhaps thats why it takes me so long to finally meet someone, I really do take my time x" What makes you think the pleasure isn't mutual? | |||
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"I am disappointed reading how many women dont orgasm from meets on this thread, for me its about mutual pleasure, perhaps thats why it takes me so long to finally meet someone, I really do take my time x" I see where you're coming from. I guess for me mutual pleasure doesn't always mean mutual orgasms and I don't see them as the be-all and end-all, as I can get pleasure from other things. If I wanted an orgasm I could give myself one in just a couple of minutes with not much effort. I have plenty of other reasons for wanting to meet for sex and orgasming is pretty low on that list. | |||
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"This has really surprised me...." Me too! Very rarely would I not cum, fab or otherwise. | |||
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"This has really surprised me.... In a good way? I’m surprised at the lack of orgasming on meets...I honestly thought that there would be ....more!" According to all the TripAdvisor fuck reviews on people's profiles, Fabsters are all sexperts. Squirting gushing orgasming deep throating sex fiends. | |||
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"I am disappointed reading how many women dont orgasm from meets on this thread, for me its about mutual pleasure, perhaps thats why it takes me so long to finally meet someone, I really do take my time x I see where you're coming from. I guess for me mutual pleasure doesn't always mean mutual orgasms and I don't see them as the be-all and end-all, as I can get pleasure from other things. If I wanted an orgasm I could give myself one in just a couple of minutes with not much effort. I have plenty of other reasons for wanting to meet for sex and orgasming is pretty low on that list. " | |||
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"Don't some women cum much, much, much easier though? Like I've had women where you literally just get the tip in and they're like "stop or I'm gonna cum!" and others where they need things stuck up their bumhole and a wand on their clit to even consider an orgasm. I think ppl are just unique and different and that's kinda what makes sex awesome imho.... Imma shut up now with my man wisdom....
We are all different and what works for one may not work for another. This is why communication is key during sex but some people are too embarrassed to ask for certain things which is a shame"I think some ppl genuinely find it much easier though, I don't think that's all about technique or communication either, it's just fact, some ppl just really don't cum easily. And I think that's ok..... | |||
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"I am disappointed reading how many women dont orgasm from meets on this thread, for me its about mutual pleasure, perhaps thats why it takes me so long to finally meet someone, I really do take my time x I see where you're coming from. I guess for me mutual pleasure doesn't always mean mutual orgasms and I don't see them as the be-all and end-all, as I can get pleasure from other things. If I wanted an orgasm I could give myself one in just a couple of minutes with not much effort. I have plenty of other reasons for wanting to meet for sex and orgasming is pretty low on that list. " For you, but its part of the culmination of being together for me, with the men I have met over the years, I have lost count many times (not that I am counting, per se) and I generally have prolonged sessions, so that we can be relaxed and pleasure each other to climax a few times. I guess I was surprised that this isnt the case for seemingly lots of you, both male and female x | |||
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"I am disappointed reading how many women dont orgasm from meets on this thread, for me its about mutual pleasure, perhaps thats why it takes me so long to finally meet someone, I really do take my time x I see where you're coming from. I guess for me mutual pleasure doesn't always mean mutual orgasms and I don't see them as the be-all and end-all, as I can get pleasure from other things. If I wanted an orgasm I could give myself one in just a couple of minutes with not much effort. I have plenty of other reasons for wanting to meet for sex and orgasming is pretty low on that list. " If you can give yourself an orgasm in minutes why would you not incorporate that into a meet as part of the play? Genuinely interested in the dynamic going on here. | |||
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"How often does it happen for you? I've had one once with one person from fab. Doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it, it just doesn't happen too often with another person." If I don’t get an orgasm I’m fed up. So I’m fed up a lot. | |||
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"I am disappointed reading how many women dont orgasm from meets on this thread, for me its about mutual pleasure, perhaps thats why it takes me so long to finally meet someone, I really do take my time x I see where you're coming from. I guess for me mutual pleasure doesn't always mean mutual orgasms and I don't see them as the be-all and end-all, as I can get pleasure from other things. If I wanted an orgasm I could give myself one in just a couple of minutes with not much effort. I have plenty of other reasons for wanting to meet for sex and orgasming is pretty low on that list. If you can give yourself an orgasm in minutes why would you not incorporate that into a meet as part of the play? Genuinely interested in the dynamic going on here. " This one of my favourite parts of foreplay is to masterbate for a man so usually my first orgasm comes from me | |||
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"I am disappointed reading how many women dont orgasm from meets on this thread, for me its about mutual pleasure, perhaps thats why it takes me so long to finally meet someone, I really do take my time x I see where you're coming from. I guess for me mutual pleasure doesn't always mean mutual orgasms and I don't see them as the be-all and end-all, as I can get pleasure from other things. If I wanted an orgasm I could give myself one in just a couple of minutes with not much effort. I have plenty of other reasons for wanting to meet for sex and orgasming is pretty low on that list. If you can give yourself an orgasm in minutes why would you not incorporate that into a meet as part of the play? Genuinely interested in the dynamic going on here. " I've tried. I can rub my clit off until it gets friction burn lol it just doesn't happen. I think it's a mental block for me, even with guys outside of fab. That's why I was so surprised by the meet I mentioned above, he really was the anomaly haha. | |||
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"How often does it happen for you? I've had one once with one person from fab. Doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it, it just doesn't happen too often with another person. If I don’t get an orgasm I’m fed up. So I’m fed up a lot. " You hide it well. | |||
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"There's meets and there's dates.... Do you mean that you need to be dating someone in order to have an orgasm? No, just for me it helps if it's someone familiar that I've taken some time to get to know and to actually want to shag for more than just an orgasm. If I want a mechanical orgasm then I know a bloke called Steve who's best at doing that for me That's just me though, we all have our own ways and wants and I think that's fine.... "I get this. Makes sense. Feeling comfortable for me makes sex so much more than just a fuck. It's more than just an orgasm. | |||
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"I am disappointed reading how many women dont orgasm from meets on this thread, for me its about mutual pleasure, perhaps thats why it takes me so long to finally meet someone, I really do take my time x I see where you're coming from. I guess for me mutual pleasure doesn't always mean mutual orgasms and I don't see them as the be-all and end-all, as I can get pleasure from other things. If I wanted an orgasm I could give myself one in just a couple of minutes with not much effort. I have plenty of other reasons for wanting to meet for sex and orgasming is pretty low on that list. If you can give yourself an orgasm in minutes why would you not incorporate that into a meet as part of the play? Genuinely interested in the dynamic going on here. " Usually there's so much else going on. When alone I can hyper focus on the sensation and get off fairly quickly. With someone else I wouldn't really want to do that anyway, I want to enjoy the experience. When I do have orgasms with others it's usually because I'm super comfortable with them so I don't have the additional anxieties distracting me. The orgasms are also significantly more intense. | |||
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"I know men are 'supposed' to not talk to other men, but I never realised women don't talk to each other either - I thought you'd all be sharing the gory details of your sex meets! Why don't you ppl realise you're all different, sometimes physically, other times mentally? I thought there'd be more understanding and respect of that tbh in a place like fab.... "Do I come across as intolerant of the other views then? | |||
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"I know men are 'supposed' to not talk to other men, but I never realised women don't talk to each other either - I thought you'd all be sharing the gory details of your sex meets! Why don't you ppl realise you're all different, sometimes physically, other times mentally? I thought there'd be more understanding and respect of that tbh in a place like fab....
Do I come across as intolerant of the other views then?"No I don't think so, do you think you do? | |||
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"I know men are 'supposed' to not talk to other men, but I never realised women don't talk to each other either - I thought you'd all be sharing the gory details of your sex meets! Why don't you ppl realise you're all different, sometimes physically, other times mentally? I thought there'd be more understanding and respect of that tbh in a place like fab....
Do I come across as intolerant of the other views then?
No I don't think so, do you think you do? "I hope not x | |||
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"How often does it happen for you? I've had one once with one person from fab. Doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it, it just doesn't happen too often with another person. If I don’t get an orgasm I’m fed up. So I’m fed up a lot. You hide it well. " I’m a good actress lol. | |||
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"Blokes are supposed to cum at the flash of a nipple, yet I struggle if it's someone I don't know, but again that's not a sign of how much I'm enjoying it. Sex is more an experience than a result as far as I'm concerned.... "Spot on. The popular notion of sex is often reduced to orgasms. There's just so much more! | |||
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"Is it not more the case that most of you gorgeous ladies orgasm from clitoral stimulation more than intercourse? X therefore unless your with a fabber who goes down on you ;P your unlikely to have a true orgasm, all be it still take a good pounding and enjoy the ride xD x " A clitoral orgasm isn't only achievable via oral. Masturbation would be fairly difficult | |||
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"Unless they’ve pissed themselves that can’t be faked .. plus you can see in their eyes ... .. just sayin "What is they close their eyes and you cannot feel the wetness? asking for a friend | |||
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"Unless they’ve pissed themselves that can’t be faked .. plus you can see in their eyes ... .. just sayin
What is they close their eyes and you cannot feel the wetness? asking for a friend " that’s never happened pmsl | |||
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"Unless they’ve pissed themselves that can’t be faked .. plus you can see in their eyes ... .. just sayin
What is they close their eyes and you cannot feel the wetness? asking for a friend
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"Is it not more the case that most of you gorgeous ladies orgasm from clitoral stimulation more than intercourse? X therefore unless your with a fabber who goes down on you ;P your unlikely to have a true orgasm, all be it still take a good pounding and enjoy the ride xD x " Each woman is different. This is the problem in that guys think we all like the same, we don’t and as for pounding, it’s not always ideal. Guys please lose this attitude as it’s not going to get you anywhere! | |||
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"Is it not more the case that most of you gorgeous ladies orgasm from clitoral stimulation more than intercourse? X therefore unless your with a fabber who goes down on you ;P your unlikely to have a true orgasm, all be it still take a good pounding and enjoy the ride xD x A clitoral orgasm isn't only achievable via oral. Masturbation would be fairly difficult "
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"Is it not more the case that most of you gorgeous ladies orgasm from clitoral stimulation more than intercourse? X therefore unless your with a fabber who goes down on you ;P your unlikely to have a true orgasm, all be it still take a good pounding and enjoy the ride xD x " Couldn’t be more wrong. Everyone is different I am the opposite | |||
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"Unless they’ve pissed themselves that can’t be faked .. plus you can see in their eyes ... .. just sayin "are you suggesting that if a woman gushes or squirts she is having an orgasm? As I can assure you it's not always one and the same x | |||
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Shame I’m outside your age range That photo is amazing "Me? | |||
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"May I ask how women aren't feeling a deep rage about this? In almost all cases the men orgasm and we don't? I get the enjoyment for us too but also feel it is selling ourselves short not to ensure our own satisfaction surely?" Deep rage seems an intense emotion. I suspect half the time women are blocking themselves, body conscious (especially with new partners) and not always verbalising what they need next. I find that I cum lots and a lot of my partners sometimes don't cum at all. They are all, however, content if I am happy | |||
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"How often does it happen for you? I've had one once with one person from fab. Doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it, it just doesn't happen too often with another person." Every time - all the time! I’m a freak of nature! | |||
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"A couple of deep thrusts or an expert finger and I’m going off like a rocket so most of the guys I’ve met have made me orgasm "Same here | |||
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"Unless they’ve pissed themselves that can’t be faked .. plus you can see in their eyes ... .. just sayin
What is they close their eyes and you cannot feel the wetness? asking for a friend
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"Unless they’ve pissed themselves that can’t be faked .. plus you can see in their eyes ... .. just sayin are you suggesting that if a woman gushes or squirts she is having an orgasm? As I can assure you it's not always one and the same x"Erm ? Really ? What about if their eyes roll back ? Is that the clue ? x | |||
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"For me, I had plenty of fun without the need to orgasm. Then it was like I turned a corner and the world was different. I think a lot of the reasons I didn't (for me at least), was down to preconceived ideas, old limiting beliefs, pressure on myself, focussing too much on giving pleasure, body image and not applying the same mental space and physicalities that I did when I orgasmed on my own. Once I had one limiting belief shattered, it brought everything else in to question and the barriers to many earth shattering orgasms literally came tumbling down." | |||
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"May I ask how women aren't feeling a deep rage about this? In almost all cases the men orgasm and we don't? I get the enjoyment for us too but also feel it is selling ourselves short not to ensure our own satisfaction surely?" I don't feel deep rage or any rage at all. For me the journey is as or more important than the destination. | |||
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"May I ask how women aren't feeling a deep rage about this? In almost all cases the men orgasm and we don't? I get the enjoyment for us too but also feel it is selling ourselves short not to ensure our own satisfaction surely? Deep rage seems an intense emotion. I suspect half the time women are blocking themselves, body conscious (especially with new partners) and not always verbalising what they need next. I find that I cum lots and a lot of my partners sometimes don't cum at all. They are all, however, content if I am happy " | |||
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"May I ask how women aren't feeling a deep rage about this? In almost all cases the men orgasm and we don't? I get the enjoyment for us too but also feel it is selling ourselves short not to ensure our own satisfaction surely? I don't feel deep rage or any rage at all. For me the journey is as or more important than the destination." | |||
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"I agree. And it isn't rage in the moment that I'm talking about. More the bigger picture, like the Hite report and many many others that consistently show the vast majority of women not orgasming at all, repeatedly, sometimes for years. At what point do we as women demand some kind of bedroom justice. Anyway, not trying to rile anyone. Just want to query why we should accept it. I love my orgasma, my double orgasms, my multiple orgasms. They move me and earth me. So I find it tough to know it isn't,well... Better leave it there really May I ask how women aren't feeling a deep rage about this? In almost all cases the men orgasm and we don't? I get the enjoyment for us too but also feel it is selling ourselves short not to ensure our own satisfaction surely? I don't feel deep rage or any rage at all. For me the journey is as or more important than the destination." I think you're assuming that the women who don't orgasm with casual, one off partners are passive and accepting of their "fate". Pressure to conform to other people's idea of what I or anybody else want from my sex life isn't a path I want to go down. I'm happy to orgasm on my own or with my life partner. I'm happy that I don't have multiple orgasms, vaginal orgasms or any of the other variations. Maybe if we met someone regularly I would have orgasms but currently I don't and I'm not losing sleep over it | |||
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"I agree. And it isn't rage in the moment that I'm talking about. More the bigger picture, like the Hite report and many many others that consistently show the vast majority of women not orgasming at all, repeatedly, sometimes for years. At what point do we as women demand some kind of bedroom justice. Anyway, not trying to rile anyone. Just want to query why we should accept it. I love my orgasma, my double orgasms, my multiple orgasms. They move me and earth me. So I find it tough to know it isn't,well... Better leave it there really May I ask how women aren't feeling a deep rage about this? In almost all cases the men orgasm and we don't? I get the enjoyment for us too but also feel it is selling ourselves short not to ensure our own satisfaction surely? I don't feel deep rage or any rage at all. For me the journey is as or more important than the destination." What do you mean 'bedroom justice'? | |||
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"How often does it happen for you? I've had one once with one person from fab. Doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it, it just doesn't happen too often with another person." I never had an orgasm during sex until I was in my 40s. That's any type.. in, out or shaking it all about.. I planned a one night stand and told this guy I don't cum but I still enjoy it.. his words were " you will with me - cocky git" Well he was right and we dated for a year lol So since then I've ended up seeing another guy.. and his main aim is to make me cum.. all the time. Been seeing him on and off for two years and he had got this down to a "T". He can make me cum multiple times and every time . He's really shown me how to work my body and now I know it's really easy. Just a bit of directing needed ha ha ha
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"WTF.......... Yes it is enjoyable without and O but, but,but........ How are you not insisting? I appreciate some men and women find it difficult to O. However, surely you could and arguably should, insist on and O before carrying on to other delights!! I try to make sure she has at least one before we do anything else! Sometimes it just doesn't happen, but, most of the time yes! I would consider myself a failure if she didn't have at least a couple of O's during a few hours of play! It is my goal after all!" Some women struggle to. I cum very easily, but a man insisting he had to make me cum would radically reduce the number I had and would have me running in the other direction | |||
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"WTF.......... Yes it is enjoyable without and O but, but,but........ How are you not insisting? I appreciate some men and women find it difficult to O. However, surely you could and arguably should, insist on and O before carrying on to other delights!! I try to make sure she has at least one before we do anything else! Sometimes it just doesn't happen, but, most of the time yes! I would consider myself a failure if she didn't have at least a couple of O's during a few hours of play! It is my goal after all!" Why is anybody insisting that women have orgasms when they're clearly and insistently saying it doesn't bother them if they don't? As I said earlier if I met someone regularly it might happen but one sure way to guarantee that it won't is to put pressure on me. If anybody can't or won't understand how an erotic experience can be satisfying then they aren't listening to me and what I want but are just pursuing what they want and wanting me to comply with that. | |||
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"WTF.......... Yes it is enjoyable without and O but, but,but........ How are you not insisting? I appreciate some men and women find it difficult to O. However, surely you could and arguably should, insist on and O before carrying on to other delights!! I try to make sure she has at least one before we do anything else! Sometimes it just doesn't happen, but, most of the time yes! I would consider myself a failure if she didn't have at least a couple of O's during a few hours of play! It is my goal after all! Some women struggle to. I cum very easily, but a man insisting he had to make me cum would radically reduce the number I had and would have me running in the other direction" Totally agree. | |||
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" Some women struggle to. I cum very easily, but a man insisting he had to make me cum would radically reduce the number I had and would have me running in the other direction" Why would you actively discourage someone wanting to make you O? | |||
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"WTF.......... Yes it is enjoyable without and O but, but,but........ How are you not insisting? I appreciate some men and women find it difficult to O. However, surely you could and arguably should, insist on and O before carrying on to other delights!! I try to make sure she has at least one before we do anything else! Sometimes it just doesn't happen, but, most of the time yes! I would consider myself a failure if she didn't have at least a couple of O's during a few hours of play! It is my goal after all! Why is anybody insisting that women have orgasms when they're clearly and insistently saying it doesn't bother them if they don't? As I said earlier if I met someone regularly it might happen but one sure way to guarantee that it won't is to put pressure on me. If anybody can't or won't understand how an erotic experience can be satisfying then they aren't listening to me and what I want but are just pursuing what they want and wanting me to comply with that. "
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" Some women struggle to. I cum very easily, but a man insisting he had to make me cum would radically reduce the number I had and would have me running in the other direction Why would you actively discourage someone wanting to make you O?" Context. A guy trying to make you orgasm as a point of pride or because "all his other lovers do" is the biggest turn off. A guy slowly learning what does it for you, understanding that its not something to get out of the way before the main event of their own orgasm and realising that it's about mutual pleasure is a different story. | |||
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" Some women struggle to. I cum very easily, but a man insisting he had to make me cum would radically reduce the number I had and would have me running in the other direction Why would you actively discourage someone wanting to make you O?" That's not a uncommon attitude. I think every woman I know feels the same, including me. I want to cum, but naturally, through a build up of all the sensations from what we're doing, not feeling like I'm on the clock. A lot of men go into things too focused on the O and that just brings pressure, which usually stops it happening. TL:DR - we need pleasure over pressure | |||
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" Some women struggle to. I cum very easily, but a man insisting he had to make me cum would radically reduce the number I had and would have me running in the other direction Why would you actively discourage someone wanting to make you O?" It reads like "I need to make you do something to prove a point." It's pressure. It's off putting. All men make me orgasm, because like Peachy I'm a freak, but the bold proclamations are about the man's performance and ego, not about my pleasure, it'll make it a less pleasant experience, and I avoid such things. | |||
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" Some women struggle to. I cum very easily, but a man insisting he had to make me cum would radically reduce the number I had and would have me running in the other direction Why would you actively discourage someone wanting to make you O? Context. A guy trying to make you orgasm as a point of pride or because "all his other lovers do" is the biggest turn off. A guy slowly learning what does it for you, understanding that its not something to get out of the way before the main event of their own orgasm and realising that it's about mutual pleasure is a different story. " I fully agree. For me, the pleasure I get from my own O, pales in comparison to the HUGE amount of pleasure (physical and phsycological) I get from giving an O! It is far from a sense of pride or getting it out of the way! It is me doing what I ADORE! Much the same,I assume, as the comments from women who are happy not to cum! I derive so much more pleasure from giving O's, than anything else! | |||
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"I see, perhaps the wording I used was wrong. There is no pressure for her to O. This is something that I put on myself! For me, the intent and goal is to give pleasure and iltimately O's. It would be a pointless exercise, in my opinion, if it was not! You may be happy not to cum, but I would see it as a failure on my part, to understand what she likes, how she likes it and where she likes it. For me it would mean that I have not listened to her, paid enough attention to her physical reactions enough. Yes sometimes it doesn't happen but, for me that should be rare!" We usually tell the guys we plan to meet that it probably won't happen. It gives them the opportunity to back out. | |||
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"I see, perhaps the wording I used was wrong. There is no pressure for her to O. This is something that I put on myself! For me, the intent and goal is to give pleasure and iltimately O's. It would be a pointless exercise, in my opinion, if it was not! You may be happy not to cum, but I would see it as a failure on my part, to understand what she likes, how she likes it and where she likes it. For me it would mean that I have not listened to her, paid enough attention to her physical reactions enough. Yes sometimes it doesn't happen but, for me that should be rare!" Listen to us, too. Don't pressure yourself. Don't pressure her. Enjoy the person you're with. It's not a competition and doing so shuts some women down. | |||
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" Some women struggle to. I cum very easily, but a man insisting he had to make me cum would radically reduce the number I had and would have me running in the other direction Why would you actively discourage someone wanting to make you O? Context. A guy trying to make you orgasm as a point of pride or because "all his other lovers do" is the biggest turn off. A guy slowly learning what does it for you, understanding that its not something to get out of the way before the main event of their own orgasm and realising that it's about mutual pleasure is a different story. I fully agree. For me, the pleasure I get from my own O, pales in comparison to the HUGE amount of pleasure (physical and phsycological) I get from giving an O! It is far from a sense of pride or getting it out of the way! It is me doing what I ADORE! Much the same,I assume, as the comments from women who are happy not to cum! I derive so much more pleasure from giving O's, than anything else! " Then somebody like me isn't the kind of woman you'd be interested in. | |||
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" Then somebody like me isn't the kind of woman you'd be interested in. "Perhaps but, wouldn't it be fun to try | |||
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" Then somebody like me isn't the kind of woman you'd be interested in.
Perhaps but, wouldn't it be fun to try "I wasn't throwing down the gauntlet. I'm very happy how I am. The fun for me isn't in trying to achieve an orgasm, it's the whole experience. Let me turn this around. Wouldn't it be fun to not try? | |||
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" Then somebody like me isn't the kind of woman you'd be interested in.
Perhaps but, wouldn't it be fun to try "Aw you're so well intentioned, but you're not listening to a word of this are you ? | |||
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" Then somebody like me isn't the kind of woman you'd be interested in.
Perhaps but, wouldn't it be fun to try
Aw you're so well intentioned, but you're not listening to a word of this are you ?"Yeah... I'm not hearing "I care about a woman's pleasure or experience", I'm hearing "I have a point to prove and it doesn't matter what you say" | |||
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" Then somebody like me isn't the kind of woman you'd be interested in.
Perhaps but, wouldn't it be fun to try "No it really wouldn't be fun. I hate this attitude. I don't cum on meets. I enjoy the whole experience. If a man doesn't listen when I've told him this, and says he *will* make me cum, or he will try anyway, I just won't meet him. He doesn't care about me as a person, I'm just a tick box for his ego. | |||
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" Then somebody like me isn't the kind of woman you'd be interested in.
Perhaps but, wouldn't it be fun to try
No it really wouldn't be fun. I hate this attitude.
I don't cum on meets. I enjoy the whole experience. If a man doesn't listen when I've told him this, and says he *will* make me cum, or he will try anyway, I just won't meet him.
He doesn't care about me as a person, I'm just a tick box for his ego. "Yes totally, my amazing wife has achieved it a few times, but it's never the objective and not something she's after. All these rubbish profiles saying it's guaranteed with them just shows how naff their understanding of women is. | |||
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" Then somebody like me isn't the kind of woman you'd be interested in.
Perhaps but, wouldn't it be fun to try
No it really wouldn't be fun. I hate this attitude.
I don't cum on meets. I enjoy the whole experience. If a man doesn't listen when I've told him this, and says he *will* make me cum, or he will try anyway, I just won't meet him.
He doesn't care about me as a person, I'm just a tick box for his ego. "Agreed. I don't squirt. I just don't. I don't meet anyone who says they'll make me. I don't want you to mash my genitals to prove you're an incredible lover. It won't be fun. | |||
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" Some women struggle to. I cum very easily, but a man insisting he had to make me cum would radically reduce the number I had and would have me running in the other direction Why would you actively discourage someone wanting to make you O? Context. A guy trying to make you orgasm as a point of pride or because "all his other lovers do" is the biggest turn off. A guy slowly learning what does it for you, understanding that its not something to get out of the way before the main event of their own orgasm and realising that it's about mutual pleasure is a different story. " this
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" Then somebody like me isn't the kind of woman you'd be interested in.
Perhaps but, wouldn't it be fun to try "It looks like you're issuing a challenge. .any guy who says they " will" get you to cum makes.you more stressed and pressurised. | |||
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"I agree. And it isn't rage in the moment that I'm talking about. More the bigger picture, like the Hite report and many many others that consistently show the vast majority of women not orgasming at all, repeatedly, sometimes for years. At what point do we as women demand some kind of bedroom justice. Anyway, not trying to rile anyone. Just want to query why we should accept it. I love my orgasma, my double orgasms, my multiple orgasms. They move me and earth me. So I find it tough to know it isn't,well... Better leave it there really May I ask how women aren't feeling a deep rage about this? In almost all cases the men orgasm and we don't? I get the enjoyment for us too but also feel it is selling ourselves short not to ensure our own satisfaction surely? I don't feel deep rage or any rage at all. For me the journey is as or more important than the destination. What do you mean 'bedroom justice'? " | |||
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"Bedroom justice is a term I came upon. When a man comes but you don't eg he makes no effort to pleasure a woman to climax how she wishes or even checks in. I totally agree that this shouldn't be a pressurized thing. But for example I get my best orgasms from cunnilingus or being rimmed. To not even have that offered when the man receives oral or climaxes and for him not to even realize that injustice doesn't sit well with me anymore. To have it dismissed when you ask even worse. " Isn't it as much a woman's responsibility to ask for what she wants? Anyone who tolerates years of bad sex without at least trying to change things is contributing to the problem in my opinion. | |||
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Shame I’m outside your age range That photo is amazing
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"Bedroom justice is a term I came upon. When a man comes but you don't eg he makes no effort to pleasure a woman to climax how she wishes or even checks in. I totally agree that this shouldn't be a pressurized thing. But for example I get my best orgasms from cunnilingus or being rimmed. To not even have that offered when the man receives oral or climaxes and for him not to even realize that injustice doesn't sit well with me anymore. To have it dismissed when you ask even worse. Isn't it as much a woman's responsibility to ask for what she wants? Anyone who tolerates years of bad sex without at least trying to change things is contributing to the problem in my opinion." | |||
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"Absolutely but when it is consistently 70%+ of the female population in survey after survey there is something more structural going on. Bedroom justice is a term I came upon. When a man comes but you don't eg he makes no effort to pleasure a woman to climax how she wishes or even checks in. I totally agree that this shouldn't be a pressurized thing. But for example I get my best orgasms from cunnilingus or being rimmed. To not even have that offered when the man receives oral or climaxes and for him not to even realize that injustice doesn't sit well with me anymore. To have it dismissed when you ask even worse. Isn't it as much a woman's responsibility to ask for what she wants? Anyone who tolerates years of bad sex without at least trying to change things is contributing to the problem in my opinion." I don't think it's fair to say its always a man's fault though. I agree that there are selfish men who couldn't give a damn whether a woman enjoys sex or not but somebody is allowing them to get away with it. I also think that nobody has the right to tell me how *I* should enjoy my sexual and erotic experiences, man or woman. If it takes me six months or a year of meeting somebody and enjoying sexual interaction with them before we both understand my triggers well enough, that's fine by me and I won't accept that I'm wrong or there's something wrong with me or the guy because of it. | |||
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"Absolutely but when it is consistently 70%+ of the female population in survey after survey there is something more structural going on. " I've read similar things. It isn't one of my priorities in terms of seeking justice (there's so much, I'm so tired ), but I suspect there are lingering inequalities and issues that manifest themselves. | |||
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