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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

is a proposal to accommodate the need for appropriate and affordable childcare... just heard this being discussed on Sky. I am not sure what I am thinking...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes please, I'll send their teas lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its brilliant, providing I can still drop them off at 8:50

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

they should just do sleep overs as well, save some parents having them at all

please note use of the word SOME

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be surprised if it makes it off the drawing board!

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"they should just do sleep overs as well, save some parents having them at all

please note use of the word SOME

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That was my inittial response and then I was thinking that some little ones would possibly be better off at school than at home

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By *ove2-shareCouple
over a year ago

South Gloucestershire

and if they think thats n

more affordable they are mad, anyway it would never happen, too much resistance as its effectively taking away childrens outside social development. get the feeling its one of those silly things that get aired so as to make other options seem ok

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Be surprised if it makes it off the drawing board!"
What makes you say that?

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Its brilliant, providing I can still drop them off at 8:50 "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"is a proposal to accommodate the need for appropriate and affordable childcare... just heard this being discussed on Sky. I am not sure what I am thinking... "

What alot of bollocks! how about bringing back some good old fashioned parenting.

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"yes please, I'll send their teas lol "
Ahead of the long summer holidays it can sound rather tempting lol

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"is a proposal to accommodate the need for appropriate and affordable childcare... just heard this being discussed on Sky. I am not sure what I am thinking...

What alot of bollocks! how about bringing back some good old fashioned parenting."

And what would that look like? how do we know, I mean really know what good parenting looks like? I m genuinley curious to hear _iews.

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By *tensonSwingersCouple
over a year ago

Stenson Fields

Compulsory boarding education...let em home at end of term only if they pass exams. Then straight into 3 years national service....gets my vote.

And yes we have 4 kids, 2 adults and 2 still at home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will they take boarders as well?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

mind ya, they would manage happy hour in Wetherspoons and still make it by 8pm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Compulsory boarding education...let em home at end of term only if they pass exams. Then straight into 3 years national service....gets my vote.

And yes we have 4 kids, 2 adults and 2 still at home."

Indeed........... It's a vote winner!

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Will they take boarders as well? "
Not sure, I only overheard a brief discussion between 3 so-called experts, on the benefits (or so-called benefits) to all concerned... except the kids!!

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"mind ya, they would manage happy hour in Wetherspoons and still make it by 8pm"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"is a proposal to accommodate the need for appropriate and affordable childcare... just heard this being discussed on Sky. I am not sure what I am thinking...

What alot of bollocks! how about bringing back some good old fashioned parenting.

And what would that look like? how do we know, I mean really know what good parenting looks like? I m genuinley curious to hear _iews."

I allow myself to think now & again that I have the parenting thing down to a fine art. Then my teenager will throw something in the mix that has me in tears (privately of course) from frustration & I'm back to the drawing board. What is good parenting? A balance I'd say. Of everything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"is a proposal to accommodate the need for appropriate and affordable childcare... just heard this being discussed on Sky. I am not sure what I am thinking...

What alot of bollocks! how about bringing back some good old fashioned parenting."

Do you have children where you need to fork out up to a 1/3 of your income on childcare costs?

Childcare costs are astronomical in this country and the situation needs to be addressed if the govt is to combat the welfare trap a lot of parents find themselves in, where the cost of childcare is higher or equal to what they'd earn if they got themselves a job.

Enabling after school childcare up to 8pm will create jobs as out of hours childcare assistants will be needed to look after these kids plus it will allow parents to take jobs with unsocial hours if that's the only work they can find. My only concern is that safeguards will be put in place to prevent the system being abused by childcare providers and unscrupulous employers - and moonlighting parents too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"is a proposal to accommodate the need for appropriate and affordable childcare... just heard this being discussed on Sky. I am not sure what I am thinking...

What alot of bollocks! how about bringing back some good old fashioned parenting.

Do you have children where you need to fork out up to a 1/3 of your income on childcare costs?

Childcare costs are astronomical in this country and the situation needs to be addressed if the govt is to combat the welfare trap a lot of parents find themselves in, where the cost of childcare is higher or equal to what they'd earn if they got themselves a job.

Enabling after school childcare up to 8pm will create jobs as out of hours childcare assistants will be needed to look after these kids plus it will allow parents to take jobs with unsocial hours if that's the only work they can find. My only concern is that safeguards will be put in place to prevent the system being abused by childcare providers and unscrupulous employers - and moonlighting parents too."

Why don't we just open the schools all night and let the parents go work night shift etc and forget about looking after their kids.yup great idea me thins lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nursery is £5 an hour down here and with minimum wage only being £6.08 it does become a lot of money

Yes the government can pay up to 70% of some peoples child care costs but if your a family earning over a certain amount you won't be eligible for any help

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"is a proposal to accommodate the need for appropriate and affordable childcare... just heard this being discussed on Sky. I am not sure what I am thinking...

What alot of bollocks! how about bringing back some good old fashioned parenting.

And what would that look like? how do we know, I mean really know what good parenting looks like? I m genuinley curious to hear _iews.

I allow myself to think now & again that I have the parenting thing down to a fine art. Then my teenager will throw something in the mix that has me in tears (privately of course) from frustration & I'm back to the drawing board. What is good parenting? A balance I'd say. Of everything. "

Totally empthasise with you there. We try so hard and despite best efforts it does not always work. For me good parenting is about listening to your children, making sure I understand what they are really saying to me and acting upon it. I believe in firm but not totalitarian boundaries, some neotiobale and some non-negotiable rules at home and a good sense of humour plus respect both ways.

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Nursery is £5 an hour down here and with minimum wage only being £6.08 it does become a lot of money

Yes the government can pay up to 70% of some peoples child care costs but if your a family earning over a certain amount you won't be eligible for any help"

It sure is not easy to combine parenting and working when you are a single parent - I empathise totally with you.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

think they will take my dogs as well, doggy nursery costs me £15 per day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why don't we just open the schools all night and let the parents go work night shift etc and forget about looking after their kids.yup great idea me thins lol"

or we could follow the Glasgow Initiative and let them run ragged round the streets slashing tyres, stealing radios and sniffing glue eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think a better plan would be to give companies tax incentives to set up work place nurseries where parents can take their kids into work with them and drop them off at the on-site nursery. The roads would be a lot less congested, jobs would be created, work shifts patterns could be introduced and parents could afford childcare because the company subsidises it (because they're getting a tax break for doing so). Obviously, this only applies to pre-school children upto 5 years old, but for some hard-pressed parents out there they simply cannot afford to work if most of what they will earn is swallowed up with childcare costs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why don't we just open the schools all night and let the parents go work night shift etc and forget about looking after their kids.yup great idea me thins lol

or we could follow the Glasgow Initiative and let them run ragged round the streets slashing tyres, stealing radios and sniffing glue eh? "

Indeed! By the way I am not from Glasgow or Scotland.Where I am from we just let the kids go down to the beach to surf before and after school and yes we do slip slop slap them to teach them how to look after themselves lol

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

The kindergarten Jays, grandaughters go to is £65 a day (they go three days a week) its open from 7 in the morning till 7 at night. They dont go those hours but some of them do, the eldest goes to primary school in september.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think a better plan would be to give companies tax incentives to set up work place nurseries where parents can take their kids into work with them and drop them off at the on-site nursery. The roads would be a lot less congested, jobs would be created, work shifts patterns could be introduced and parents could afford childcare because the company subsidises it (because they're getting a tax break for doing so). Obviously, this only applies to pre-school children upto 5 years old, but for some hard-pressed parents out there they simply cannot afford to work if most of what they will earn is swallowed up with childcare costs."

Most factories up here did that years ago.

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By *he tactile technicianMan
over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands


"Compulsory boarding education...let em home at end of term only if they pass exams. Then straight into 3 years national service....gets my vote.

And yes we have 4 kids, 2 adults and 2 still at home."
Worked for me, straight to boarding school at the age of ten, fostered out in the holidays, till I was 17, left school on a Friday, went home, for the weekend, started work in London on the Monday, in a flat with my bro in Islington, never looked back!!! So leaving home at the age of 10 does work, though it was a boys boarding school, and its made me pretty inept around women and having sex with them...any sympathy? lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my kids was at bording schools and working untill late home work done in class room .. Thay would get longer holidays.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always thought Dotheboys Hall had an unjustly bad press.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and where the hell is the extra money going to come from to make this work and who they going to get to run it its a pipe dream only snag is it will only ever be a dream

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why don't we just open the schools all night and let the parents go work night shift etc and forget about looking after their kids.yup great idea me thins lol

or we could follow the Glasgow Initiative and let them run ragged round the streets slashing tyres, stealing radios and sniffing glue eh?

Indeed! By the way I am not from Glasgow or Scotland.Where I am from we just let the kids go down to the beach to surf before and after school and yes we do slip slop slap them to teach them how to look after themselves lol

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great well while u do that try being a single parent who isn't on benefits because they choose to show children a work ethic and yes i agree with lots it would be just as easy for me to be on benefits. childcare is a nightmare a constant juggling act so i can work to keep roof over there heads and yes i had them but i didn't decide for there father to feck off and never pay me matience again

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By *tensonSwingersCouple
over a year ago

Stenson Fields

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Compulsory boarding education...let em home at end of term only if they pass exams. Then straight into 3 years national service....gets my vote.

And yes we have 4 kids, 2 adults and 2 still at home. Worked for me, straight to boarding school at the age of ten, fostered out in the holidays, till I was 17, left school on a Friday, went home, for the weekend, started work in London on the Monday, in a flat with my bro in Islington, never looked back!!! So leaving home at the age of 10 does work, though it was a boys boarding school, and its made me pretty inept around women and having sex with them...any sympathy? lol

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Subject of boarding school is a tough one - I was faced with the option of sending mine as their dad was in the Foces. We chatted about it and decided against as we felt we did not have them in the first palce to let somebody else be the main influence in their upbringing. But hey, for some it is a really good option and some kids really do beenfit. I hear what you are saying , TT about the ability to learn about proper relationships... that can be a bit negelected.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have my own business and im a childcare provider. a lot cheaper than a nursery and more attention is given to children, their education and upbringing by me than a nursery too. too many people don't know about childminders so are assuming ridiculous ideas like this are needed.

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"i have my own business and im a childcare provider. a lot cheaper than a nursery and more attention is given to children, their education and upbringing by me than a nursery too. too many people don't know about childminders so are assuming ridiculous ideas like this are needed. "
Could I ask you how long children stay with you throughout the day?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i have my own business and im a childcare provider. a lot cheaper than a nursery and more attention is given to children, their education and upbringing by me than a nursery too. too many people don't know about childminders so are assuming ridiculous ideas like this are needed. Could I ask you how long children stay with you throughout the day? "

as its my own business in my own home, like any other childminder and unlike nurseries i can work any hour, overnight and weekend care too. x

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"i have my own business and im a childcare provider. a lot cheaper than a nursery and more attention is given to children, their education and upbringing by me than a nursery too. too many people don't know about childminders so are assuming ridiculous ideas like this are needed. Could I ask you how long children stay with you throughout the day? Sounds good and a very flexible service. Are there any mums/ das who leave their offspring for more than say 8 hours? What is the longest anybody is likely to leave kids in your experience?

as its my own business in my own home, like any other childminder and unlike nurseries i can work any hour, overnight and weekend care too. x"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it could work.. Most schools around here are already open till 6pm anyway, from 7:45.. It costs

£3.95 for the morning session and £7 for the evening but you can get both for £10.. and includes a snack both morning and evening.

When you consider how much a childminder costs parents to pick up kids from school and then keep them till 6pm then its a good option.

However for me that would still be £150 pw in child care..

As most schools already have after school care around here I dont think it would change much but I know when I had a job that finished at 5:30 I would panic when I left that I wouldnt get to the school in time to pick them up.

Cali

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

This is already being trialled in some schools. So far it has not proved to be less expensive for parents but has helped with the juggling of finding people to take children from school to after school care of some sort. Schools involved have found it challenging as it means employing two sets of staff in some cases, although some have negotiated additional payments to existing staff to work longer hours.

Some of the free schools are proposing this as their model. It is certainly a way of getting the numbers needed for the school to get the go ahead.

On the other side the cost of work-space would make creating subsidised workplace nurseries completely unrealistic. For large employers that can model how many nursery age children their staff are likely to have then to costs ratios might work out. For most, the additional regulations involved, the staffing and the space requirements would make it impossible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"is a proposal to accommodate the need for appropriate and affordable childcare... just heard this being discussed on Sky. I am not sure what I am thinking... "

Many schools buildings are already open for breakfast clubs from 8am till after 7pm already. Not for academic subjects but for child care. Many have crèches on the same footprint too so I don't see any real change just sky running sensationalist stories as per usual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think its a good idea if people use it for what its ment for, so they can go to work without the worry of paying a child minder, but it wont be, lazy partents who just want a longer day without their kids will use it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why don't we just open the schools all night and let the parents go work night shift etc and forget about looking after their kids.yup great idea me thins lol

or we could follow the Glasgow Initiative and let them run ragged round the streets slashing tyres, stealing radios and sniffing glue eh? "

oh I forgot - all the other inner cities in the country are saintly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

a childminder costs less than nurseries and usually less than after school clubs etc too. they also reduce rates for siblings. a lot of parents should look into childminders as its a lot easier and cheaper, benefits outway schools/nurseries alongside better cost.

xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

also to the questions asked. parents leave children with me usually around 9 hours a day allowing them too and from work. some have been more and then some less too. x

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