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"Just took a chance on Tesco brand low sugar protein powder as I have been struggling to find a nice tasting low carb powder that I don't need to gulp down as quick a possible while pinching my nose. I made it up with almond milk and a little double cream and my goodness it is delicious!! Like a super thick, creamy milkshake for only 4g net carbs. Highly recommend if anyone is also following low carb/keto and finding it hard to get enough protein in, it's only £9 for 17 servings, bargain! "Do you know roughly how many calories are in that please xx | |||
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"Just took a chance on Tesco brand low sugar protein powder as I have been struggling to find a nice tasting low carb powder that I don't need to gulp down as quick a possible while pinching my nose. I made it up with almond milk and a little double cream and my goodness it is delicious!! Like a super thick, creamy milkshake for only 4g net carbs. Highly recommend if anyone is also following low carb/keto and finding it hard to get enough protein in, it's only £9 for 17 servings, bargain!
Do you know roughly how many calories are in that please xx"It's 112 cals and 2.8g carbs for the powder by itself, and then obviously it depends on what you mix it with  | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories "Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off! | |||
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"Don’t worry too much about the carbs it’s the sugar that’s the most important thing to cut down on" Low carb inherently means low sugar though as your body converts carbs to glucose | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off! "Bugger just tried to message you for some advice xx | |||
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"Try the grenade hydra 6 range the chocolate charge flavour is amazing. And more importantly it’s 50/50 whey isolate and casein with only 2.4 grams of carbs - I am in fact just shaking up my pre sleep portion for the night ! " Ooh is it very filling? I need sustenance lol | |||
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"Try the grenade hydra 6 range the chocolate charge flavour is amazing. And more importantly it’s 50/50 whey isolate and casein with only 2.4 grams of carbs - I am in fact just shaking up my pre sleep portion for the night ! " £42  | |||
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"Try the grenade hydra 6 range the chocolate charge flavour is amazing. And more importantly it’s 50/50 whey isolate and casein with only 2.4 grams of carbs - I am in fact just shaking up my pre sleep portion for the night ! Ooh is it very filling? I need sustenance lol" I’m not sure really as I always tend to have stuff with it at breakfast too hot my calorie goal. It seems to be working though | |||
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"Try the grenade hydra 6 range the chocolate charge flavour is amazing. And more importantly it’s 50/50 whey isolate and casein with only 2.4 grams of carbs - I am in fact just shaking up my pre sleep portion for the night ! £42 "For 57 portions | |||
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"Try the grenade hydra 6 range the chocolate charge flavour is amazing. And more importantly it’s 50/50 whey isolate and casein with only 2.4 grams of carbs - I am in fact just shaking up my pre sleep portion for the night ! £42
For 57 portions "Fair. I do think grenade as a whole is pretty expensive though. I used to like their carb killa shakes but they didn't keep me full for very long | |||
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"https://peaksupps.co.uk/products/hydrolysed-collagen-protein-powder?variant=13704164212799 This "Thanks but I can't have that (veggie) | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off! "I'm 12 years down the line with my keto life, stick at it and I promise you will wonder why you only discovered the truth when you did (I'm 14 months carnivore now, life is soooo simple). | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off! "How long have you been losing for ? And how much lost ? | |||
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"Try the grenade hydra 6 range the chocolate charge flavour is amazing. And more importantly it’s 50/50 whey isolate and casein with only 2.4 grams of carbs - I am in fact just shaking up my pre sleep portion for the night ! £42
For 57 portions "Myprotein website does a 5kg bag whey protein for £52 at the minute (current discount). 25g serving, 1g carbs per serving, vegetarian and that would be 200 servings | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off!
How long have you been losing for ?
And how much lost ?"I've lost 2 stone (13kg) since April but not all of it was through keto. I had to stop for a while due to a health issue and gained back around 5 lbs (lots of stress and comfort eating), now been back on keto for about 5 days and already lost everything I gained back so still at the 2 stone mark. Planning to stay with it this time as I figured out the cause of my health issue - I thought it might have been cutting carbs out which is why I stopped keto before. | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off!
I'm 12 years down the line with my keto life, stick at it and I promise you will wonder why you only discovered the truth when you did (I'm 14 months carnivore now, life is soooo simple)."And you look amazing for it! 
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off!
How long have you been losing for ?
And how much lost ?
I've lost 2 stone (13kg) since April but not all of it was through keto. I had to stop for a while due to a health issue and gained back around 5 lbs (lots of stress and comfort eating), now been back on keto for about 5 days and already lost everything I gained back so still at the 2 stone mark. Planning to stay with it this time as I figured out the cause of my health issue - I thought it might have been cutting carbs out which is why I stopped keto before. "Ah that's what I thought You have not lost much if any fat I'm afraid You cannot cannot lose that as fat in that time What you have lost is mainly glycogen water and faeces So sorry | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off!
How long have you been losing for ?
And how much lost ?
I've lost 2 stone (13kg) since April but not all of it was through keto. I had to stop for a while due to a health issue and gained back around 5 lbs (lots of stress and comfort eating), now been back on keto for about 5 days and already lost everything I gained back so still at the 2 stone mark. Planning to stay with it this time as I figured out the cause of my health issue - I thought it might have been cutting carbs out which is why I stopped keto before.
Ah that's what I thought
You have not lost much if any fat I'm afraid
You cannot cannot lose that as fat in that time
What you have lost is mainly glycogen water and faeces
So sorry "Stop the silly keto Go balanced calorie and carb controlled and aim for 1.5 to 2 lbs per week over a year 18 months | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off!
How long have you been losing for ?
And how much lost ?
I've lost 2 stone (13kg) since April but not all of it was through keto. I had to stop for a while due to a health issue and gained back around 5 lbs (lots of stress and comfort eating), now been back on keto for about 5 days and already lost everything I gained back so still at the 2 stone mark. Planning to stay with it this time as I figured out the cause of my health issue - I thought it might have been cutting carbs out which is why I stopped keto before.
Ah that's what I thought
You have not lost much if any fat I'm afraid
You cannot cannot lose that as fat in that time
What you have lost is mainly glycogen water and faeces
So sorry
Stop the silly keto
Go balanced calorie and carb controlled and aim for 1.5 to 2 lbs per week over a year 18 months
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow?" Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). | |||
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"Just took a chance on Tesco brand low sugar protein powder as I have been struggling to find a nice tasting low carb powder that I don't need to gulp down as quick a possible while pinching my nose. I made it up with almond milk and a little double cream and my goodness it is delicious!! Like a super thick, creamy milkshake for only 4g net carbs. Highly recommend if anyone is also following low carb/keto and finding it hard to get enough protein in, it's only £9 for 17 servings, bargain! "Bulk Powders are good value, I like their vanilla. Whey does stimulate insulin though, so real food is preferable. | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off!
How long have you been losing for ?
And how much lost ?
I've lost 2 stone (13kg) since April but not all of it was through keto. I had to stop for a while due to a health issue and gained back around 5 lbs (lots of stress and comfort eating), now been back on keto for about 5 days and already lost everything I gained back so still at the 2 stone mark. Planning to stay with it this time as I figured out the cause of my health issue - I thought it might have been cutting carbs out which is why I stopped keto before.
Ah that's what I thought
You have not lost much if any fat I'm afraid
You cannot cannot lose that as fat in that time
What you have lost is mainly glycogen water and faeces
So sorry "OK | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). " Thanks will take a look.into in more detail.. | |||
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"Just took a chance on Tesco brand low sugar protein powder as I have been struggling to find a nice tasting low carb powder that I don't need to gulp down as quick a possible while pinching my nose. I made it up with almond milk and a little double cream and my goodness it is delicious!! Like a super thick, creamy milkshake for only 4g net carbs. Highly recommend if anyone is also following low carb/keto and finding it hard to get enough protein in, it's only £9 for 17 servings, bargain!
Bulk Powders are good value, I like their vanilla. Whey does stimulate insulin though, so real food is preferable."Bulk p and my pro I think have the same parent co Their prices are almost identical however you need to buy when they send the 45 percent offers | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail.. "Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose "Many, many obese, overweight, and even average sized people have lost tons of weight through keto. Just do a simple Google search or have a look on places like diet doctor and YouTube for the hundreds of success stories. I've tried your calorie based dieting approach more times than I can count and I was eating around 1800 cals (much lower than my BMR) and 160g of carbs per day when I was eating "normally" . If it works for you that's great but guess what, every body is different and what works for some will not work for others. You've feigned an interest in my weight loss only to try and use it to burst my bubble. You've done this previously on threads I've started about weight loss. Just let me live and do things my way. This is the one thing I've found that's working for me and I am not going to let you ruin it | |||
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"With the greatest respect Im not sure i understand what protein powder is Why dont you just eat, well, food? Can someone explain it to me please?" Personally I prefer to get all my protein from real food but sometimes it can be hard to eat it all. I sometimes use protein powder to top it up. When I got really into weight lifting I struggled really badly with soreness and it was still happening after months of going to the gym. Turns out I wasn't eating enough protein so my muscles weren't repairing properly. It's easily done when you don't eat meat. | |||
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"With the greatest respect Im not sure i understand what protein powder is Why dont you just eat, well, food? Can someone explain it to me please?" It depends what you use it for. Some people use it as a meal/snack replacement as it's lower calorie than a full meal but can be just as filling and some people use it to get more protein into their diet. I do the latter as I struggle getting enough protein from my food intake alone. Then you get the body builders who are all about muscle repair and "gains" but you are better off asking one of them as I have no clue about weight lifting lol. | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose
Many, many obese, overweight, and even average sized people have lost tons of weight through keto. Just do a simple Google search or have a look on places like diet doctor and YouTube for the hundreds of success stories.
I've tried your calorie based dieting approach more times than I can count and I was eating around 1800 cals (much lower than my BMR) and 160g of carbs per day when I was eating "normally" . If it works for you that's great but guess what, every body is different and what works for some will not work for others.
You've feigned an interest in my weight loss only to try and use it to burst my bubble. You've done this previously on threads I've started about weight loss. Just let me live and do things my way. This is the one thing I've found that's working for me and I am not going to let you ruin it "No I haven't i dont need to do that I've given straight advice And I'm happy for you to live however you want please do However if you want to succeed it may not be the most effective method And again i was only being blunt with regards the non fat loss i find facts help me achieve things If you're happy please continue But the journey you embark upon has been my point of interest and learning for 30 plus years | |||
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"With the greatest respect Im not sure i understand what protein powder is Why dont you just eat, well, food? Can someone explain it to me please? It depends what you use it for. Some people use it as a meal/snack replacement as it's lower calorie than a full meal but can be just as filling and some people use it to get more protein into their diet. I do the latter as I struggle getting enough protein from my food intake alone. Then you get the body builders who are all about muscle repair and "gains" but you are better off asking one of them as I have no clue about weight lifting lol. " I do | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose
Many, many obese, overweight, and even average sized people have lost tons of weight through keto. Just do a simple Google search or have a look on places like diet doctor and YouTube for the hundreds of success stories.
I've tried your calorie based dieting approach more times than I can count and I was eating around 1800 cals (much lower than my BMR) and 160g of carbs per day when I was eating "normally" . If it works for you that's great but guess what, every body is different and what works for some will not work for others.
You've feigned an interest in my weight loss only to try and use it to burst my bubble. You've done this previously on threads I've started about weight loss. Just let me live and do things my way. This is the one thing I've found that's working for me and I am not going to let you ruin it "Just ignore. I've had the same. I've lost 15kg over a number of years but apparently I'm doing it all wrong  . You're doing great  . | |||
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"With the greatest respect Im not sure i understand what protein powder is Why dont you just eat, well, food? Can someone explain it to me please?" Glad I'm not the only one.. | |||
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"With the greatest respect Im not sure i understand what protein powder is Why dont you just eat, well, food? Can someone explain it to me please? It depends what you use it for. Some people use it as a meal/snack replacement as it's lower calorie than a full meal but can be just as filling and some people use it to get more protein into their diet. I do the latter as I struggle getting enough protein from my food intake alone. Then you get the body builders who are all about muscle repair and "gains" but you are better off asking one of them as I have no clue about weight lifting lol. I do " And I'm not all about muscle repair | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose
Many, many obese, overweight, and even average sized people have lost tons of weight through keto. Just do a simple Google search or have a look on places like diet doctor and YouTube for the hundreds of success stories.
I've tried your calorie based dieting approach more times than I can count and I was eating around 1800 cals (much lower than my BMR) and 160g of carbs per day when I was eating "normally" . If it works for you that's great but guess what, every body is different and what works for some will not work for others.
You've feigned an interest in my weight loss only to try and use it to burst my bubble. You've done this previously on threads I've started about weight loss. Just let me live and do things my way. This is the one thing I've found that's working for me and I am not going to let you ruin it
Just ignore. I've had the same. I've lost 15kg over a number of years but apparently I'm doing it all wrong . You're doing great . "Thank you. I don't care who criticises me lol I'm just so happy this is working for me
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose
Many, many obese, overweight, and even average sized people have lost tons of weight through keto. Just do a simple Google search or have a look on places like diet doctor and YouTube for the hundreds of success stories.
I've tried your calorie based dieting approach more times than I can count and I was eating around 1800 cals (much lower than my BMR) and 160g of carbs per day when I was eating "normally" . If it works for you that's great but guess what, every body is different and what works for some will not work for others.
You've feigned an interest in my weight loss only to try and use it to burst my bubble. You've done this previously on threads I've started about weight loss. Just let me live and do things my way. This is the one thing I've found that's working for me and I am not going to let you ruin it
Just ignore. I've had the same. I've lost 15kg over a number of years but apparently I'm doing it all wrong . You're doing great . "1.5 lbs per month 2 years 15 kg You ate a calorific deficit Low carb can assist It can hinder Sustainability is the only key Keto ie less than 50 g carb daily for most is not For a minority it clicks We most need some carbs for fiber Fiber fuels good gut bacteria Good for skin hormones and many other functions Weat loss is best done long term with as many food groups as possible Keto works short term | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose
Many, many obese, overweight, and even average sized people have lost tons of weight through keto. Just do a simple Google search or have a look on places like diet doctor and YouTube for the hundreds of success stories.
I've tried your calorie based dieting approach more times than I can count and I was eating around 1800 cals (much lower than my BMR) and 160g of carbs per day when I was eating "normally" . If it works for you that's great but guess what, every body is different and what works for some will not work for others.
You've feigned an interest in my weight loss only to try and use it to burst my bubble. You've done this previously on threads I've started about weight loss. Just let me live and do things my way. This is the one thing I've found that's working for me and I am not going to let you ruin it
Just ignore. I've had the same. I've lost 15kg over a number of years but apparently I'm doing it all wrong . You're doing great .
1.5 lbs per month
2 years
15 kg
You ate a calorific deficit
Low carb can assist
It can hinder
Sustainability is the only key
Keto ie less than 50 g carb daily for most is not
For a minority it clicks
We most need some carbs for fiber
Fiber fuels good gut bacteria
Good for skin hormones and many other functions
Weat loss is best done long term with as many food groups as possible
Keto works short term
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose
Many, many obese, overweight, and even average sized people have lost tons of weight through keto. Just do a simple Google search or have a look on places like diet doctor and YouTube for the hundreds of success stories.
I've tried your calorie based dieting approach more times than I can count and I was eating around 1800 cals (much lower than my BMR) and 160g of carbs per day when I was eating "normally" . If it works for you that's great but guess what, every body is different and what works for some will not work for others.
You've feigned an interest in my weight loss only to try and use it to burst my bubble. You've done this previously on threads I've started about weight loss. Just let me live and do things my way. This is the one thing I've found that's working for me and I am not going to let you ruin it
Just ignore. I've had the same. I've lost 15kg over a number of years but apparently I'm doing it all wrong . You're doing great .
Thank you. I don't care who criticises me lol I'm just so happy this is working for me
Congrats on your weight loss, 15kg is amazing "Oh and amber Iv asked details on your threads but never ever knocked what you did You asked about exercises once For a moment I thought I could be inventive enough for a solution for you but realised I could not Walking would be so effective for you but as you say you dont like it thus it's no solution Iv actually only replied as I wanted to help you mentioned the near diabetic But I'm anti fad diets I hope you succeed however keto is not known for people sticking Good luck though And lacy I'm glad lowering your carbs helped your loss but it sounds sensible sustainable and non rapid I'm not convinced it was strict keto | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose
Many, many obese, overweight, and even average sized people have lost tons of weight through keto. Just do a simple Google search or have a look on places like diet doctor and YouTube for the hundreds of success stories.
I've tried your calorie based dieting approach more times than I can count and I was eating around 1800 cals (much lower than my BMR) and 160g of carbs per day when I was eating "normally" . If it works for you that's great but guess what, every body is different and what works for some will not work for others.
You've feigned an interest in my weight loss only to try and use it to burst my bubble. You've done this previously on threads I've started about weight loss. Just let me live and do things my way. This is the one thing I've found that's working for me and I am not going to let you ruin it
Just ignore. I've had the same. I've lost 15kg over a number of years but apparently I'm doing it all wrong . You're doing great .
Thank you. I don't care who criticises me lol I'm just so happy this is working for me
Congrats on your weight loss, 15kg is amazing
Oh and amber
Iv asked details on your threads but never ever knocked what you did
You asked about exercises once
For a moment I thought I could be inventive enough for a solution for you but realised I could not
Walking would be so effective
for you but as you say you dont like it thus it's no solution
Iv actually only replied as I wanted to help you mentioned the near diabetic
But I'm anti fad diets
I hope you succeed however keto is not known for people sticking
Good luck though
And lacy I'm glad lowering your carbs helped your loss but it sounds sensible sustainable and non rapid I'm not convinced it was strict keto
"You've commented these lectures on at least three of my threads about weight loss, I remember because of how much some of your comments upset me. I won't talk about it any more because I don't want a forum ban for airing dirty laundry. Listen you obviously have an amazing body and you know what works for you, that's great! So just keep doing your thing and let others do theirs | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose
Many, many obese, overweight, and even average sized people have lost tons of weight through keto. Just do a simple Google search or have a look on places like diet doctor and YouTube for the hundreds of success stories.
I've tried your calorie based dieting approach more times than I can count and I was eating around 1800 cals (much lower than my BMR) and 160g of carbs per day when I was eating "normally" . If it works for you that's great but guess what, every body is different and what works for some will not work for others.
You've feigned an interest in my weight loss only to try and use it to burst my bubble. You've done this previously on threads I've started about weight loss. Just let me live and do things my way. This is the one thing I've found that's working for me and I am not going to let you ruin it
Just ignore. I've had the same. I've lost 15kg over a number of years but apparently I'm doing it all wrong . You're doing great .
Thank you. I don't care who criticises me lol I'm just so happy this is working for me
Congrats on your weight loss, 15kg is amazing
Oh and amber
Iv asked details on your threads but never ever knocked what you did
You asked about exercises once
For a moment I thought I could be inventive enough for a solution for you but realised I could not
Walking would be so effective
for you but as you say you dont like it thus it's no solution
Iv actually only replied as I wanted to help you mentioned the near diabetic
But I'm anti fad diets
I hope you succeed however keto is not known for people sticking
Good luck though
And lacy I'm glad lowering your carbs helped your loss but it sounds sensible sustainable and non rapid I'm not convinced it was strict keto
You've commented these lectures on at least three of my threads about weight loss, I remember because of how much some of your comments upset me. I won't talk about it any more because I don't want a forum ban for airing dirty laundry.
Listen you obviously have an amazing body and you know what works for you, that's great! So just keep doing your thing and let others do theirs "Sorry if I said something that was wrong and upset you never my intention If someone said they like drinking battery acid I'm sorry I would be compelled to articulate why I felt it would not benefit them That's my only motive If you want an echo chamber I have no more to say on your thread other than take care | |||
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" And lacy I'm glad lowering your carbs helped your loss but it sounds sensible sustainable and non rapid I'm not convinced it was strict keto Because as always you know more than me about what I put in my body . Next you'll be telling me who I have and haven't fucked. No way I could know all by myself! "I dont know I stated I dont know you gave some data I did some calcs However only you know I will say however my last word and then leave me alone thanks You know exactly what you did and do Keto where carbs are less than 50 g and fat very very high If you genuinely stick to this no adverse effects no issues and your weight is consistent and no yo yo Advocate your method but I urge caution at advocating any extreme activities to another I know how to cut low and I assure you I would never utter a word on the forum as they are not healthy or sustainable I'll stick with cautionary feelings on keto And advocate balance No malice or bad will ever intended only good health happiness and sustained wellbeing Peace | |||
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"Just took a chance on Tesco brand low sugar protein powder as I have been struggling to find a nice tasting low carb powder that I don't need to gulp down as quick a possible while pinching my nose. I made it up with almond milk and a little double cream and my goodness it is delicious!! Like a super thick, creamy milkshake for only 4g net carbs. Highly recommend if anyone is also following low carb/keto and finding it hard to get enough protein in, it's only £9 for 17 servings, bargain!
Bulk Powders are good value, I like their vanilla. Whey does stimulate insulin though, so real food is preferable.
Bulk p and my pro I think have the same parent co
Their prices are almost identical however you need to buy when they send the 45 percent offers "Which is every 5 mins luckily lol! They have some interesting products too, and always the best price. | |||
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" And lacy I'm glad lowering your carbs helped your loss but it sounds sensible sustainable and non rapid I'm not convinced it was strict keto Because as always you know more than me about what I put in my body . Next you'll be telling me who I have and haven't fucked. No way I could know all by myself!
I dont know I stated I dont know you gave some data I did some calcs
However only you know
I will say however my last word and then leave me alone thanks
You know exactly what you did and do
Keto where carbs are less than 50 g and fat very very high
If you genuinely stick to this no adverse effects no issues and your weight is consistent and no yo yo
Advocate your method but I urge caution at advocating any extreme activities to another
I know how to cut low and I assure you I would never utter a word on the forum as they are not healthy or sustainable
I'll stick with cautionary feelings on keto
And advocate balance
No malice or bad will ever intended only good health happiness and sustained wellbeing
Peace "The only person advocating anything is you, I have simply explained what the diet is and that it's worked for a lot of people. At no point did I, or in fact anyone, say "you must do this diet". In fact this whole thread was based off my review of a protein powder, not quite sure how it took such a downward turn... | |||
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"Just took a chance on Tesco brand low sugar protein powder as I have been struggling to find a nice tasting low carb powder that I don't need to gulp down as quick a possible while pinching my nose. I made it up with almond milk and a little double cream and my goodness it is delicious!! Like a super thick, creamy milkshake for only 4g net carbs. Highly recommend if anyone is also following low carb/keto and finding it hard to get enough protein in, it's only £9 for 17 servings, bargain!
Bulk Powders are good value, I like their vanilla. Whey does stimulate insulin though, so real food is preferable.
Bulk p and my pro I think have the same parent co
Their prices are almost identical however you need to buy when they send the 45 percent offers
Which is every 5 mins luckily lol! They have some interesting products too, and always the best price."I usually like them but I tried the chocolate flavour myvegan pea protein recently and it is by far the worst thing I've ever put in my mouth. And that's saying something  I can't bear to throw it away while there are people starving so I chug it with my nose pinched shut over the sink  | |||
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"Just took a chance on Tesco brand low sugar protein powder as I have been struggling to find a nice tasting low carb powder that I don't need to gulp down as quick a possible while pinching my nose. I made it up with almond milk and a little double cream and my goodness it is delicious!! Like a super thick, creamy milkshake for only 4g net carbs. Highly recommend if anyone is also following low carb/keto and finding it hard to get enough protein in, it's only £9 for 17 servings, bargain!
Bulk Powders are good value, I like their vanilla. Whey does stimulate insulin though, so real food is preferable.
Bulk p and my pro I think have the same parent co
Their prices are almost identical however you need to buy when they send the 45 percent offers
Which is every 5 mins luckily lol! They have some interesting products too, and always the best price.
I usually like them but I tried the chocolate flavour myvegan pea protein recently and it is by far the worst thing I've ever put in my mouth. And that's saying something I can't bear to throw it away while there are people starving so I chug it with my nose pinched shut over the sink "Yuk, I could neve do that lol. Mind you, their high protein pancake mix could be used to manufacture frisbees if you let them cool...... | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose "Not so. 7000 under per week doing 56 mins cardio hill walking and I did not lose an ounce. It's always men with muscles think they know better - you guys really do not seem to understand how different female metabolic function can be. | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). " Hmm, I would disagree with this definition I am afraid. To get into ketosis, you simply need to get carbs low, and indeed if you want to lose fat, eating a high proportion of fat in the diet can, for many, be counter-productive. | |||
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" And lacy I'm glad lowering your carbs helped your loss but it sounds sensible sustainable and non rapid I'm not convinced it was strict keto Because as always you know more than me about what I put in my body . Next you'll be telling me who I have and haven't fucked. No way I could know all by myself!
I dont know I stated I dont know you gave some data I did some calcs
However only you know
I will say however my last word and then leave me alone thanks
You know exactly what you did and do
Keto where carbs are less than 50 g and fat very very high
If you genuinely stick to this no adverse effects no issues and your weight is consistent and no yo yo
Advocate your method but I urge caution at advocating any extreme activities to another
I know how to cut low and I assure you I would never utter a word on the forum as they are not healthy or sustainable
I'll stick with cautionary feelings on keto
And advocate balance
No malice or bad will ever intended only good health happiness and sustained wellbeing
Peace "I've never advocated for a method. I haven't even only used one method. I've never asked you to calculate anything or give me any dietary advice but it keeps being forced upon me. | |||
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"This is all double dutch to me. Why not just eat a low fat diet and cut out the junk?" Because for a high percentage of people the problem is not fat, it's carbohydrates. | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Hmm, I would disagree with this definition I am afraid. To get into ketosis, you simply need to get carbs low, and indeed if you want to lose fat, eating a high proportion of fat in the diet can, for many, be counter-productive." I don't know if it would be possible for someone like me to keep both carbs and fat low though, I'd be miserable! I think for someone of my size I'm probably okay eating high fat for the moment but obviously this is different for everybody. With the amount I am eating at the moment I feel very satiated and it's really helping me to curb my snacking. Also I haven't even thought about a binge in the past week or so, which for me is massive | |||
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"This is all double dutch to me. Why not just eat a low fat diet and cut out the junk? Because for some people fat is not the enemy, carbs are "Should never be cutting carbs worst thing you can do clear is what you want in fact if you eat cleaner you find you will intake more carbs thay you were doing eating durty it’s all about fat to protein count | |||
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"Just took a chance on Tesco brand low sugar protein powder as I have been struggling to find a nice tasting low carb powder that I don't need to gulp down as quick a possible while pinching my nose. I made it up with almond milk and a little double cream and my goodness it is delicious!! Like a super thick, creamy milkshake for only 4g net carbs. Highly recommend if anyone is also following low carb/keto and finding it hard to get enough protein in, it's only £9 for 17 servings, bargain!
Bulk Powders are good value, I like their vanilla. Whey does stimulate insulin though, so real food is preferable.
Bulk p and my pro I think have the same parent co
Their prices are almost identical however you need to buy when they send the 45 percent offers
Which is every 5 mins luckily lol! They have some interesting products too, and always the best price.
I usually like them but I tried the chocolate flavour myvegan pea protein recently and it is by far the worst thing I've ever put in my mouth. And that's saying something I can't bear to throw it away while there are people starving so I chug it with my nose pinched shut over the sink "Unfortunately the vegan protein shake powders are usually very gritty. I've switched to the clear whey isolate which is much more palatable to me than shakes and doesn't seem to upset my stomach like the creamy ones can though there is also a vegan version which apparently mixes just as well. I have the peach tea flavour and it's just like drinking squash which is super refreshing! | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose
Not so. 7000 under per week doing 56 mins cardio hill walking and I did not lose an ounce.
It's always men with muscles think they know better - you guys really do not seem to understand how different female metabolic function can be."Amen !!!!!!!!!! | |||
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"Just took a chance on Tesco brand low sugar protein powder as I have been struggling to find a nice tasting low carb powder that I don't need to gulp down as quick a possible while pinching my nose. I made it up with almond milk and a little double cream and my goodness it is delicious!! Like a super thick, creamy milkshake for only 4g net carbs. Highly recommend if anyone is also following low carb/keto and finding it hard to get enough protein in, it's only £9 for 17 servings, bargain!
Bulk Powders are good value, I like their vanilla. Whey does stimulate insulin though, so real food is preferable.
Bulk p and my pro I think have the same parent co
Their prices are almost identical however you need to buy when they send the 45 percent offers
Which is every 5 mins luckily lol! They have some interesting products too, and always the best price.
I usually like them but I tried the chocolate flavour myvegan pea protein recently and it is by far the worst thing I've ever put in my mouth. And that's saying something I can't bear to throw it away while there are people starving so I chug it with my nose pinched shut over the sink
Unfortunately the vegan protein shake powders are usually very gritty. I've switched to the clear whey isolate which is much more palatable to me than shakes and doesn't seem to upset my stomach like the creamy ones can though there is also a vegan version which apparently mixes just as well. I have the peach tea flavour and it's just like drinking squash which is super refreshing! "Ooh this sounds interesting, although I have to admit I like the fact that when a protein shake is really creamy and tasty it can make me feel like I'm having a dessert. And yeah the vegan stuff is gritty af. I've tried straining it, blending it, adding different flavourings/milks. It's just bad. | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Hmm, I would disagree with this definition I am afraid. To get into ketosis, you simply need to get carbs low, and indeed if you want to lose fat, eating a high proportion of fat in the diet can, for many, be counter-productive. I don't know if it would be possible for someone like me to keep both carbs and fat low though, I'd be miserable! I think for someone of my size I'm probably okay eating high fat for the moment but obviously this is different for everybody. With the amount I am eating at the moment I feel very satiated and it's really helping me to curb my snacking. Also I haven't even thought about a binge in the past week or so, which for me is massive "Whatever works for you - just be aware though that it is protein that gives the most satiety. | |||
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Well eat normal food and read food labels to ensure low carbs. All these potions seem like a money making business to me"It's cheaper than real food though. And I say this as someone who tries to get my full protein intake from food. I personally prefer it but it costs and its hard to eat that much. Especially when you still want to get a decent intake of vegetables as well. | |||
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"Don’t worry too much about the carbs it’s the sugar that’s the most important thing to cut down on Amen, lay off the sugar and breads and it's plain sailing, during lockdown adjusted my diet and lost a stone. Now I'm sticking to it. How is it possible to lay off the sugar. The brain is sustained by sugar "Your body can convert other molecules into sugar through a process called gluconeogenesis. Easiest is to consume simple sugars, but remember there was once a time when humans did not harvest sugar cane and eat bread etc. | |||
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"This is all double dutch to me. Why not just eat a low fat diet and cut out the junk? Because for some people fat is not the enemy, carbs are
Well eat normal food and read food labels to ensure low carbs. All these potions seem like a money making business to me
It's cheaper than real food though. And I say this as someone who tries to get my full protein intake from food. I personally prefer it but it costs and its hard to eat that much. Especially when you still want to get a decent intake of vegetables as well. "Yep, especially as a vegetarian. The meat replacements often have more carbs than real meat and I also want to be able to have a good amount of veg so protein shakes are the only way for me to get enough protein without going over carb allowance. | |||
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"This is all double dutch to me. Why not just eat a low fat diet and cut out the junk? Because for some people fat is not the enemy, carbs are
Well eat normal food and read food labels to ensure low carbs. All these potions seem like a money making business to me"Haha, I don't eat food with 'labels'. I do eat normal, fresh food, prepared from scratch, and low carb - but I have found I need to hit a minimum protein target for my needs, and sometimes a little top up of concentrated protein just makes that easier. No potions involved. | |||
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Your body can convert other molecules into sugar through a process called gluconeogenesis. Easiest is to consume simple sugars, but remember there was once a time when humans did not harvest sugar cane and eat bread etc."True but when we came across a cherry tree in fruit or a nice fatty mammoth we’d scoff the lot and store the sugar and fat in our bodies as we had no cupboards. The cupboard only got invented after wheat and cows enslaved us and made us make big piles of food everywhere | |||
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"Don’t worry too much about the carbs it’s the sugar that’s the most important thing to cut down on Amen, lay off the sugar and breads and it's plain sailing, during lockdown adjusted my diet and lost a stone. Now I'm sticking to it. How is it possible to lay off the sugar. The brain is sustained by sugar
Your body can convert other molecules into sugar through a process called gluconeogenesis. Easiest is to consume simple sugars, but remember there was once a time when humans did not harvest sugar cane and eat bread etc.
True but when we came across a cherry tree in fruit or a nice fatty mammoth we’d scoff the lot and store the sugar and fat in our bodies as we had no cupboards. The cupboard only got invented after wheat and cows enslaved us and made us make big piles of food everywhere "You are sort of right, but if we look at traditional hunter gatherer communities, they eat very little in the way of fruit etc. You can generate sufficient glucose for energy by rearranging the glycerol units that make up triglycerides, ample of which hunter gatherers obtain from meat, nuts and seeds. Also the bits of proteins we don't pee out can be fed into various metabolic pathways, which lead to the formation of ATP. | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Hmm, I would disagree with this definition I am afraid. To get into ketosis, you simply need to get carbs low, and indeed if you want to lose fat, eating a high proportion of fat in the diet can, for many, be counter-productive." Yeah that Michael Moseley programme on currently gets them into ketosis with a low fat/low carb regime. | |||
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"Don’t worry too much about the carbs it’s the sugar that’s the most important thing to cut down on Amen, lay off the sugar and breads and it's plain sailing, during lockdown adjusted my diet and lost a stone. Now I'm sticking to it. How is it possible to lay off the sugar. The brain is sustained by sugar
Your body can convert other molecules into sugar through a process called gluconeogenesis. Easiest is to consume simple sugars, but remember there was once a time when humans did not harvest sugar cane and eat bread etc.
True but when we came across a cherry tree in fruit or a nice fatty mammoth we’d scoff the lot and store the sugar and fat in our bodies as we had no cupboards. The cupboard only got invented after wheat and cows enslaved us and made us make big piles of food everywhere
You are sort of right, but if we look at traditional hunter gatherer communities, they eat very little in the way of fruit etc. You can generate sufficient glucose for energy by rearranging the glycerol units that make up triglycerides, ample of which hunter gatherers obtain from meat, nuts and seeds. Also the bits of proteins we don't pee out can be fed into various metabolic pathways, which lead to the formation of ATP. "They were lean, fast and strong, but could they bench 100kg? I try to minimise fruit to a few berries per day and the odd half a banana. I do like the variety of hunter gatherer diet, with an occasional meat, fat and bone rampage, a nice lean mammal hunted and eaten with bare hands. | |||
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"Don’t worry too much about the carbs it’s the sugar that’s the most important thing to cut down on Amen, lay off the sugar and breads and it's plain sailing, during lockdown adjusted my diet and lost a stone. Now I'm sticking to it. How is it possible to lay off the sugar. The brain is sustained by sugar
Your body can convert other molecules into sugar through a process called gluconeogenesis. Easiest is to consume simple sugars, but remember there was once a time when humans did not harvest sugar cane and eat bread etc.
True but when we came across a cherry tree in fruit or a nice fatty mammoth we’d scoff the lot and store the sugar and fat in our bodies as we had no cupboards. The cupboard only got invented after wheat and cows enslaved us and made us make big piles of food everywhere
You are sort of right, but if we look at traditional hunter gatherer communities, they eat very little in the way of fruit etc. You can generate sufficient glucose for energy by rearranging the glycerol units that make up triglycerides, ample of which hunter gatherers obtain from meat, nuts and seeds. Also the bits of proteins we don't pee out can be fed into various metabolic pathways, which lead to the formation of ATP.
They were lean, fast and strong, but could they bench 100kg?
I try to minimise fruit to a few berries per day and the odd half a banana. I do like the variety of hunter gatherer diet, with an occasional meat, fat and bone rampage, a nice lean mammal hunted and eaten with bare hands."Did they need to bench press 100kg? Probably not, so they ate what was required to function as humans needed to function..... | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Hmm, I would disagree with this definition I am afraid. To get into ketosis, you simply need to get carbs low, and indeed if you want to lose fat, eating a high proportion of fat in the diet can, for many, be counter-productive. Yeah that Michael Moseley programme on currently gets them into ketosis with a low fat/low carb regime. Yes, but that's so low calorie it must carry a danger of shutting the metabolism down, which some say can be permanent. I must research that more." It's only for 21 days and only recommended for overweight or obese. | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Hmm, I would disagree with this definition I am afraid. To get into ketosis, you simply need to get carbs low, and indeed if you want to lose fat, eating a high proportion of fat in the diet can, for many, be counter-productive. Yeah that Michael Moseley programme on currently gets them into ketosis with a low fat/low carb regime. Yes, but that's so low calorie it must carry a danger of shutting the metabolism down, which some say can be permanent. I must research that more. It's only for 21 days and only recommended for overweight or obese. " What do you think about high fat / bullet proof coffee first thing ? The idea is the fast sustains you through a fast and helps stay in a state of ketosis | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Hmm, I would disagree with this definition I am afraid. To get into ketosis, you simply need to get carbs low, and indeed if you want to lose fat, eating a high proportion of fat in the diet can, for many, be counter-productive. Yeah that Michael Moseley programme on currently gets them into ketosis with a low fat/low carb regime. Yes, but that's so low calorie it must carry a danger of shutting the metabolism down, which some say can be permanent. I must research that more. It's only for 21 days and only recommended for overweight or obese. What do you think about high fat / bullet proof coffee first thing ? The idea is the fast sustains you through a fast and helps stay in a state of ketosis " Omg this stuff keeps me full for HOURS. I use double cream and coconut oil instead of butter and mct as it's less greasy and doesn't make me feel nauseous. If you add cinnamon, almond extract and a little vanilla it tastes like a magical dessert treat | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Hmm, I would disagree with this definition I am afraid. To get into ketosis, you simply need to get carbs low, and indeed if you want to lose fat, eating a high proportion of fat in the diet can, for many, be counter-productive. Yeah that Michael Moseley programme on currently gets them into ketosis with a low fat/low carb regime. Yes, but that's so low calorie it must carry a danger of shutting the metabolism down, which some say can be permanent. I must research that more. It's only for 21 days and only recommended for overweight or obese. What do you think about high fat / bullet proof coffee first thing ? The idea is the fast sustains you through a fast and helps stay in a state of ketosis Omg this stuff keeps me full for HOURS. I use double cream and coconut oil instead of butter and mct as it's less greasy and doesn't make me feel nauseous. If you add cinnamon, almond extract and a little vanilla it tastes like a magical dessert treat "I’m going to try this , im sceptical about the mct benefits and the upgraded beans is a con ( washing removes mycotoxins) but cream and coconut oil blended with a freshly ground double expresso sounds good | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Hmm, I would disagree with this definition I am afraid. To get into ketosis, you simply need to get carbs low, and indeed if you want to lose fat, eating a high proportion of fat in the diet can, for many, be counter-productive. Yeah that Michael Moseley programme on currently gets them into ketosis with a low fat/low carb regime. Yes, but that's so low calorie it must carry a danger of shutting the metabolism down, which some say can be permanent. I must research that more. It's only for 21 days and only recommended for overweight or obese. " Not sure how long it takes to damage metabolic function. | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Hmm, I would disagree with this definition I am afraid. To get into ketosis, you simply need to get carbs low, and indeed if you want to lose fat, eating a high proportion of fat in the diet can, for many, be counter-productive. Yeah that Michael Moseley programme on currently gets them into ketosis with a low fat/low carb regime. Yes, but that's so low calorie it must carry a danger of shutting the metabolism down, which some say can be permanent. I must research that more. It's only for 21 days and only recommended for overweight or obese. What do you think about high fat / bullet proof coffee first thing ? The idea is the fast sustains you through a fast and helps stay in a state of ketosis Omg this stuff keeps me full for HOURS. I use double cream and coconut oil instead of butter and mct as it's less greasy and doesn't make me feel nauseous. If you add cinnamon, almond extract and a little vanilla it tastes like a magical dessert treat
I’m going to try this , im sceptical about the mct benefits and the upgraded beans is a con ( washing removes mycotoxins) but cream and coconut oil blended with a freshly ground double expresso sounds good "Yeah I just use instant tbh, not a massive coffee snob (around taste or health benefits) so makes no difference to me. Although make sure you do actually blend it otherwise the oil just sits on top, I use a little electric milk frother so I don't have to clean the big blender each time. | |||
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Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off!
I'm 12 years down the line with my keto life, stick at it and I promise you will wonder why you only discovered the truth when you did (I'm 14 months carnivore now, life is soooo simple).
And you look amazing for it!
How long were you vegetarian for? "Thanks. I'm the opposite of vegetarian, I only eat things that are or came from, animals. | |||
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Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off!
How long have you been losing for ?
And how much lost ?
I've lost 2 stone (13kg) since April but not all of it was through keto. I had to stop for a while due to a health issue and gained back around 5 lbs (lots of stress and comfort eating), now been back on keto for about 5 days and already lost everything I gained back so still at the 2 stone mark. Planning to stay with it this time as I figured out the cause of my health issue - I thought it might have been cutting carbs out which is why I stopped keto before.
Ah that's what I thought
You have not lost much if any fat I'm afraid
You cannot cannot lose that as fat in that time
What you have lost is mainly glycogen water and faeces
So sorry "Well that’s not true - I’ve lost 3 stone since March and that includes putting on muscle. I have the photos that prove it was fat that was lost too. Every body is different. | |||
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I’m going to try this , im sceptical about the mct benefits and the upgraded beans is a con ( washing removes mycotoxins) but cream and coconut oil blended with a freshly ground double expresso sounds good
Yeah I just use instant tbh, not a massive coffee snob (around taste or health benefits) so makes no difference to me. Although make sure you do actually blend it otherwise the oil just sits on top, I use a little electric milk frother so I don't have to clean the big blender each time. "Just had my bulletproof, that’s certainly different not what I expected at all! I’m too full for my porridge even, guess that’s idea. It took some getting down but not because it’s bad, it’s just heavy like a meal rather than a coffee. I think I’m going to be experimenting and researching this a bit more | |||
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"What is keto and is it easy to follow? Yes and no. You basically cut out all sugar, grains, fruit, legumes/beans/pulses, starchy veg and eat high fat, moderate protein and very low carb (max 20-30g per day mainly from non starchy veg). It switches your body to a state called ketosis where you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs/glucose. It is easy in the sense that the amount of fat you eat keeps you super full all day (think lots of butter, cheese, cream etc) so it's easy to stop snacking and eat smaller portions but the food options are quite limited and it's very hard to eat out (although not as much of a problem at the moment). Thanks will take a look.into in more detail..
Or ignore keto until you need it ie when you reach single figure body fat
As long as carbs are between 80 to 200 g per day and calories 3500 less than bazel per week you will lose
Many, many obese, overweight, and even average sized people have lost tons of weight through keto. Just do a simple Google search or have a look on places like diet doctor and YouTube for the hundreds of success stories.
I've tried your calorie based dieting approach more times than I can count and I was eating around 1800 cals (much lower than my BMR) and 160g of carbs per day when I was eating "normally" . If it works for you that's great but guess what, every body is different and what works for some will not work for others.
You've feigned an interest in my weight loss only to try and use it to burst my bubble. You've done this previously on threads I've started about weight loss. Just let me live and do things my way. This is the one thing I've found that's working for me and I am not going to let you ruin it " | |||
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" I've lost 2 stone (13kg) since April but not all of it was through keto. I had to stop for a while due to a health issue and gained back around 5 lbs (lots of stress and comfort eating), now been back on keto for about 5 days and already lost everything I gained back so still at the 2 stone mark. Planning to stay with it this time as I figured out the cause of my health issue - I thought it might have been cutting carbs out which is why I stopped keto before. Ah that's what I thought You have not lost much if any fat I'm afraid You cannot cannot lose that as fat in that time What you have lost is mainly glycogen water and faeces So sorry Well that’s not true - I’ve lost 3 stone since March and that includes putting on muscle. I have the photos that prove it was fat that was lost too. Every body is different." Presumably they meant the 5lbs in 5 days not the 2stone since April Well done on the loss And well done OP If it's working for you and you're happy keep going | |||
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" I've lost 2 stone (13kg) since April but not all of it was through keto. I had to stop for a while due to a health issue and gained back around 5 lbs (lots of stress and comfort eating), now been back on keto for about 5 days and already lost everything I gained back so still at the 2 stone mark. Planning to stay with it this time as I figured out the cause of my health issue - I thought it might have been cutting carbs out which is why I stopped keto before. Ah that's what I thought You have not lost much if any fat I'm afraid You cannot cannot lose that as fat in that time What you have lost is mainly glycogen water and faeces So sorry Well that’s not true - I’ve lost 3 stone since March and that includes putting on muscle. I have the photos that prove it was fat that was lost too. Every body is different. Presumably they meant the 5lbs in 5 days not the 2stone since April Well done on the loss And well done OP If it's working for you and you're happy keep going" Thank you! I think he was just nitpicking my entire approach tbh, and it's not the first time which is why I got a bit inflamed. It is pretty obvious that it's not possible to lose 5lbs of fat in 5 days... But I put that weight on pretty quickly so probably stored a lot of water with it which is what I've just lost. Explains why I feel much less bloated. Either way I'm happy to see the scales go down | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off!
How long have you been losing for ?
And how much lost ?
I've lost 2 stone (13kg) since April but not all of it was through keto. I had to stop for a while due to a health issue and gained back around 5 lbs (lots of stress and comfort eating), now been back on keto for about 5 days and already lost everything I gained back so still at the 2 stone mark. Planning to stay with it this time as I figured out the cause of my health issue - I thought it might have been cutting carbs out which is why I stopped keto before.
Ah that's what I thought
You have not lost much if any fat I'm afraid
You cannot cannot lose that as fat in that time
What you have lost is mainly glycogen water and faeces
So sorry
Well that’s not true - I’ve lost 3 stone since March and that includes putting on muscle. I have the photos that prove it was fat that was lost too. Every body is different."That's incredible, congratulations! | |||
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" Just had my bulletproof, that’s certainly different not what I expected at all! I’m too full for my porridge even, guess that’s idea. It took some getting down but not because it’s bad, it’s just heavy like a meal rather than a coffee. I think I’m going to be experimenting and researching this a bit more "Glad you liked it! Yeah it's definitely something you need to sip and not gulp down haha. I would recommend not eating anything with it as you may put on weight that way, it's meant to be like a meal within itself. I use it to get through whole nights of studying (I'm a night owl) as the caffeine buzz and mental clarity it gives me is amazing compared to a normal cup of coffee. Also I tend to snack and graze a lot when I study which has totally stopped now because of how filling it is. | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off!
I'm 12 years down the line with my keto life, stick at it and I promise you will wonder why you only discovered the truth when you did (I'm 14 months carnivore now, life is soooo simple).
And you look amazing for it!
How long were you vegetarian for?
Thanks. I'm the opposite of vegetarian, I only eat things that are or came from, animals.
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"Just took a chance on Tesco brand low sugar protein powder as I have been struggling to find a nice tasting low carb powder that I don't need to gulp down as quick a possible while pinching my nose. I made it up with almond milk and a little double cream and my goodness it is delicious!! Like a super thick, creamy milkshake for only 4g net carbs. Highly recommend if anyone is also following low carb/keto and finding it hard to get enough protein in, it's only £9 for 17 servings, bargain! "Adding double cream will bust your fat and carbs. | |||
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"Just took a chance on Tesco brand low sugar protein powder as I have been struggling to find a nice tasting low carb powder that I don't need to gulp down as quick a possible while pinching my nose. I made it up with almond milk and a little double cream and my goodness it is delicious!! Like a super thick, creamy milkshake for only 4g net carbs. Highly recommend if anyone is also following low carb/keto and finding it hard to get enough protein in, it's only £9 for 17 servings, bargain!
Adding double cream will bust your fat and carbs. "Don't know what kind of cream you're buying that's full of carbs... | |||
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"Carbs are the new calories
Haha yep and I can see why, years of calorie counting has never done anything for me apart from make me miserable and gain more weight but with keto the weight is flying off!
How long have you been losing for ?
And how much lost ?
I've lost 2 stone (13kg) since April but not all of it was through keto. I had to stop for a while due to a health issue and gained back around 5 lbs (lots of stress and comfort eating), now been back on keto for about 5 days and already lost everything I gained back so still at the 2 stone mark. Planning to stay with it this time as I figured out the cause of my health issue - I thought it might have been cutting carbs out which is why I stopped keto before.
Ah that's what I thought
You have not lost much if any fat I'm afraid
You cannot cannot lose that as fat in that time
What you have lost is mainly glycogen water and faeces
So sorry "Your talking shit. | |||
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