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"Going to see it on the 24th when it passes nearby  "Same here if I'm up but have a busy night planned for sat and might not be getting in till late lol | |||
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"A friend of mine's disabled grandson is doing one of the torch relays in the Lakes.....just looked at the route and the organisers reckon that it should pass within 10 miles of at least 95% of the population......Arse End is in the remaining 5%, nearest it gets to us is 25 odd miles away so I'll just look out for it on the telly "That was a deliberate ploy by the organisers. They had considered taking the torch through Arse End, but were worried that if the town farted the flame would be extinguished for good. In safety briefings 25 miles was considered the minimum safe distance to avoid such a catastrophe happening | |||
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"A friend of mine's disabled grandson is doing one of the torch relays in the Lakes.....just looked at the route and the organisers reckon that it should pass within 10 miles of at least 95% of the population......Arse End is in the remaining 5%, nearest it gets to us is 25 odd miles away so I'll just look out for it on the telly
That was a deliberate ploy by the organisers. They had considered taking the torch through Arse End, but were worried that if the town farted the flame would be extinguished for good.
In safety briefings 25 miles was considered the minimum safe distance to avoid such a catastrophe happening"PMSL.....in fact, I laughed so much, a tear ran down my leg....could also be if the town did fart, the resulting flame-thrower effect could lay waste to God's own country ruining Cumbria as a tourist destination  | |||
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"i will be standing in my living room window on the 1st of july at 7:30am as it goes past my house its too early to be outside and dressed but will stand in the window drink my cup of tea oh the joys of living on the 1st and second floors i will see it all and not have to stand in a crowd" its in Evesham that day to so i shall pop into town to see it x | |||
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"All that walking & queuing for a 20-second glimpse of a complete stranger running past with a flame. What a pointless exercise, Siren seemed to enjoy it though." dunno why they run, there's no fire.  | |||
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"i will be standing in my living room window on the 1st of july at 7:30am as it goes past my house its too early to be outside and dressed but will stand in the window drink my cup of tea oh the joys of living on the 1st and second floors i will see it all and not have to stand in a crowd its in Evesham that day to so i shall pop into town to see it x" I dont get how the route works out tho as it was in worcester 3 weeks ago you would think it would have done evesham then really wouldnt you | |||
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"Massive waste of money that only serves the few, not the many...... Sorry but I think the vast amount of cash spent could have been used regenerating many places in Britain and not just the wealthy south eastern corner " it has gone/going from north to south, east to west and the smiles on the kids faces the other day as it passed was fantastic..... a life long memory. | |||
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"Massive waste of money that only serves the few, not the many...... Sorry but I think the vast amount of cash spent could have been used regenerating many places in Britain and not just the wealthy south eastern corner " And yet that 'wealthy south eastern corner' that has been developed for the Games features 3 of the boroughs listed as in the poorest 5 in the country. The other two 'Olympic Boroughs' also feature quite high on the overall list. Many there feel that the Games are taking resources away from them too. Londoners are paying additional council tax to help pay for the Games and will have been told that we can't travel around on public transport or use cars or the roads generally. Yet, it is fingers crossed that there will be a regenerative effect and that GDP will increase. It's not a black and white issue. | |||
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"I live in a poor area of the north east with very little investment, lower than average salary and poor social housing yet were told that the Olympics will benefit us all, I just fail to see where. " It may be grim in Grimsby but when has that been the North East? | |||
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"I live in a poor area of the north east with very little investment, lower than average salary and poor social housing yet were told that the Olympics will benefit us all, I just fail to see where. It may be grim in Grimsby but when has that been the North East?" Still classed as north easy england, granted only just, but it is | |||
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"Personally I think it's a waste of public money and resources lining the streets with police etc it's an oversized lighter carried by b list celebs causing traffic jams can't wait for it to be over " And people who have given hours and hours of kindness to others. | |||
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"seeing as not only does the run avoid our town, but also marlow to the south of us (home of Redgrave, probably our greatest modern Olympian) our interest is low" 
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"Personally I think it's a waste of public money and resources lining the streets with police etc it's an oversized lighter carried by b list celebs causing traffic jams can't wait for it to be over And people who have given hours and hours of kindness to others." how exactly ? | |||
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"Personally I think it's a waste of public money and resources lining the streets with police etc it's an oversized lighter carried by b list celebs causing traffic jams can't wait for it to be over And people who have given hours and hours of kindness to others. how exactly ? " Look up the official website and read about the torchbearers.... Larry Smith 85 years of age nominated by his family is one | |||
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"So many people were nominated to carry the flame and it has been exciting for those that were selected and those that know them. Sometimes using resources, like the police, in this way does far more positive good than spending the money on a project that benefits a few hundred/thousand or so on one estate. The money might be used for the security etc but it 'buys' that moment when you speak to neighbour you didn't know, that moment when you have a real sense of community and shared joy. It even 'buys' that moment of finding the others that share your _iew it is a waste of money and opens up the conversation on how it could be better spent. In 2008/9 we were discussing whether these should be the 'Austerity Games' as they were in 1948 but the very strong feeling was that to set out to host the Games on the cheap would ensure that there would be no lasting benefits. " The games themselves will be good for the economy bringing people from across the world however carrying the torch not so much Britain caters for football it's the country's main sport then rugby then cricket and a Scottish tennis player I can name probably 3 Olympic athletes for GB that represent Britain I'm afraid it's about money and in the economic climate it's cost Britain millions if not billions with stadiums, policing , ambulances bumped up security rockets being installed in London for terrorist attacks it's never ending but hey at least the kids are smiling | |||
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"Personally I think it's a waste of public money and resources lining the streets with police etc it's an oversized lighter carried by b list celebs causing traffic jams can't wait for it to be over And people who have given hours and hours of kindness to others. how exactly ? Look up the official website and read about the torchbearers.... Larry Smith 85 years of age nominated by his family is one" ok so larry age 85 carrys a torch ! Did it increase his pension ? What kindness was shown ? That money spent policing him running , closing roads could have been spent on homeless and abused kids but nah good old larry wants to run close the roads , Waste waste waste | |||
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"Personally I think it's a waste of public money and resources lining the streets with police etc it's an oversized lighter carried by b list celebs causing traffic jams can't wait for it to be over " are you just bitter cos you didnt get to carry the big flamey thing?? | |||
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"Massive waste of money that only serves the few, not the many...... Sorry but I think the vast amount of cash spent could have been used regenerating many places in Britain and not just the wealthy south eastern corner And yet that 'wealthy south eastern corner' that has been developed for the Games features 3 of the boroughs listed as in the poorest 5 in the country. The other two 'Olympic Boroughs' also feature quite high on the overall list. Many there feel that the Games are taking resources away from them too. Londoners are paying additional council tax to help pay for the Games and will have been told that we can't travel around on public transport or use cars or the roads generally. Yet, it is fingers crossed that there will be a regenerative effect and that GDP will increase. It's not a black and white issue." Yes it is. For the rest of the UK there will be no Olympic legacy. Londoners get forty times as much, per head, in public transport subsidies as people where I live. You get massive subsidies for the cost of public housing via HRA subsidies, where we pay negative subsidies, and you get massive amounts of public investment via the over concentration of public services in your area. A little humility and a little honesty would not go amiss. Incidentally, get your terminology right. The boroughs you cite are three of the worst off in terms of the IMD (Indices of Multiple Deprivation) not the poorest. IMD measures more than income, and there are Super Output Areas and Lower Super Output Areas all round the country that can match those figures - there are three in the borough where I live, 350 miles from London, and all we will get from the games is a bloke from Coca Cola (official suppliers of tooth decay and obesity to the 2012 Olympics) handing out free gifts. | |||
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"Massive waste of money that only serves the few, not the many...... Sorry but I think the vast amount of cash spent could have been used regenerating many places in Britain and not just the wealthy south eastern corner And yet that 'wealthy south eastern corner' that has been developed for the Games features 3 of the boroughs listed as in the poorest 5 in the country. The other two 'Olympic Boroughs' also feature quite high on the overall list. Many there feel that the Games are taking resources away from them too. Londoners are paying additional council tax to help pay for the Games and will have been told that we can't travel around on public transport or use cars or the roads generally. Yet, it is fingers crossed that there will be a regenerative effect and that GDP will increase. It's not a black and white issue. Yes it is. For the rest of the UK there will be no Olympic legacy. Londoners get forty times as much, per head, in public transport subsidies as people where I live. You get massive subsidies for the cost of public housing via HRA subsidies, where we pay negative subsidies, and you get massive amounts of public investment via the over concentration of public services in your area. A little humility and a little honesty would not go amiss. Incidentally, get your terminology right. The boroughs you cite are three of the worst off in terms of the IMD (Indices of Multiple Deprivation) not the poorest. IMD measures more than income, and there are Super Output Areas and Lower Super Output Areas all round the country that can match those figures - there are three in the borough where I live, 350 miles from London, and all we will get from the games is a bloke from Coca Cola (official suppliers of tooth decay and obesity to the 2012 Olympics) handing out free gifts. " Thanks for that. I do know about IMD and SOAs and wrangle with the figures regularly. My point was that the streets of London are not paved with gold. I may just put up a Maurice Glasman thread to stop this one being hijacked further. We can use all the technical jargon we like there.  | |||
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"Personally I think it's a waste of public money and resources lining the streets with police etc it's an oversized lighter carried by b list celebs causing traffic jams can't wait for it to be over are you just bitter cos you didnt get to carry the big flamey thing?? "no I burned my finger on the damn thing it's a health hazard lol | |||
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"Massive waste of money that only serves the few, not the many...... Sorry but I think the vast amount of cash spent could have been used regenerating many places in Britain and not just the wealthy south eastern corner And yet that 'wealthy south eastern corner' that has been developed for the Games features 3 of the boroughs listed as in the poorest 5 in the country. The other two 'Olympic Boroughs' also feature quite high on the overall list. Many there feel that the Games are taking resources away from them too. Londoners are paying additional council tax to help pay for the Games and will have been told that we can't travel around on public transport or use cars or the roads generally. Yet, it is fingers crossed that there will be a regenerative effect and that GDP will increase. It's not a black and white issue. Yes it is. For the rest of the UK there will be no Olympic legacy. Londoners get forty times as much, per head, in public transport subsidies as people where I live. You get massive subsidies for the cost of public housing via HRA subsidies, where we pay negative subsidies, and you get massive amounts of public investment via the over concentration of public services in your area. A little humility and a little honesty would not go amiss. Incidentally, get your terminology right. The boroughs you cite are three of the worst off in terms of the IMD (Indices of Multiple Deprivation) not the poorest. IMD measures more than income, and there are Super Output Areas and Lower Super Output Areas all round the country that can match those figures - there are three in the borough where I live, 350 miles from London, and all we will get from the games is a bloke from Coca Cola (official suppliers of tooth decay and obesity to the 2012 Olympics) handing out free gifts. Thanks for that. I do know about IMD and SOAs and wrangle with the figures regularly. My point was that the streets of London are not paved with gold. I may just put up a Maurice Glasman thread to stop this one being hijacked further. We can use all the technical jargon we like there. "If you know the technical jargon why use innacurate and emotive language like 'poorest'? No need for technical jargon in a thread about Glasman - he's scum. | |||
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" funny about those don't get critised for legacy, but yet london does...." A very good point... but then the reasoning does seem to be that London shouldn't have any public development because it is drowning in subsidies from the rest of the country. Weymouth is already benefitting from the Olympic developments there. I realise that in this country football is seen as a common occurrence but I do find it funny that the Olympic tickets they cannot shift are for football being hosted around the country. | |||
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"for those of you who say the legacy left will only benefit london.... when the commonwealth games were in manchester did it leave a legacy... it did in the north west... didn't to the rest of the county When the World University Games were in sheffield.... did it leave a legacy ... it did to those in South yorkshire... didn't to the rest of the country when the Commonwealth Games were in Edinburgh... did it leave a legace... it did to those in the east of Scotland, didn't to the rest of the country... and when the Commonwealth Games are in Glasgow...2 years after the Olympics in London, Will that leave a Legacy.... it will to those in the west of scotland, but won't to the rest of the country funny about those don't get critised for legacy, but yet london does...." It feeds their need to be angry and bitter..... | |||
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" A little humility and a little honesty would not go amiss. Incidentally, get your terminology right. The boroughs you cite are three of the worst off in terms of the IMD (Indices of Multiple Deprivation) not the poorest. IMD measures more than income, and there are Super Output Areas and Lower Super Output Areas all round the country that can match those figures - there are three in the borough where I live, 350 miles from London, and all we will get from the games is a bloke from Coca Cola (official suppliers of tooth decay and obesity to the 2012 Olympics) handing out free gifts. Thanks for that. I do know about IMD and SOAs and wrangle with the figures regularly. My point was that the streets of London are not paved with gold. I may just put up a Maurice Glasman thread to stop this one being hijacked further. We can use all the technical jargon we like there.
If you know the technical jargon why use innacurate and emotive language like 'poorest'?
No need for technical jargon in a thread about Glasman - he's scum."Because, as with all jargon, it excludes people. As for my language being inaccurate and emotive, did you mean the use of words like 'humilty and honesty not... go(ing) amiss'? Or, maybe labelling someone as scum?  | |||
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" funny about those don't get critised for legacy, but yet london does.... A very good point... but then the reasoning does seem to be that London shouldn't have any public development because it is drowning in subsidies from the rest of the country. Weymouth is already benefitting from the Olympic developments there. I realise that in this country football is seen as a common occurrence but I do find it funny that the Olympic tickets they cannot shift are for football being hosted around the country." What's so funny about that? Suppose i bought a ticket for a match at Old Trafford. I haven't got a prayer of which teams i will be watching. Suppose i plumped for a £50 ticket, yet find myself one row in front of a bloke who paid £20 for his ticket. Fecking hilarious it is, yeah. | |||
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" funny about those don't get critised for legacy, but yet london does.... A very good point... but then the reasoning does seem to be that London shouldn't have any public development because it is drowning in subsidies from the rest of the country. Weymouth is already benefitting from the Olympic developments there. I realise that in this country football is seen as a common occurrence but I do find it funny that the Olympic tickets they cannot shift are for football being hosted around the country. What's so funny about that? Suppose i bought a ticket for a match at Old Trafford. I haven't got a prayer of which teams i will be watching. Suppose i plumped for a £50 ticket, yet find myself one row in front of a bloke who paid £20 for his ticket. Fecking hilarious it is, yeah. " I understood that they have had problems even shifting the £10 tickets. Most will have no idea who is competing for the tickets they have for murder ball but those tickets have been selling. | |||
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