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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

My mum is excited as buying a new car this week. She is almost 81. As much as i admire her independence i worry about her driving. Does anyone else have elderly parents who still drive and how do you feel about them doing so?

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By *abasaurus RexMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

I’d rather my grandma stopped using the car to be honest. I admire her independence (also being in her early 80’s), but having been in the car with her.. I can’t help but feel it’s just a matter of time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you have to be honest with them OP. It's not always easy for them to see that they're becoming dangerous. If it really comes to it, a quiet word with DVLA can help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both my mum and dad still drive. Not so bothered about my dad's driving as he has always driven alot.

I'm not keen on my mum driving and since lockdown she has hardly been out at all. More worried about her confidence with driving more than anything else.

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"I’d rather my grandma stopped using the car to be honest. I admire her independence (also being in her early 80’s), but having been in the car with her.. I can’t help but feel it’s just a matter of time. "

That is how i feel. When she said she was getting rid of the car i was relieved but shocked when she said she was replacing it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm an elderly parent

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"I think you have to be honest with them OP. It's not always easy for them to see that they're becoming dangerous. If it really comes to it, a quiet word with DVLA can help. "

She actually just drives locally now and usually avoids busy times but it is still a concern. Her hearing is not great these days although she will deny this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Older people have far fewer accidents than young people. They were taught to drive with concideration and properly. but there are acceptions But the majority are safer drivers .....

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By *abasaurus RexMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire


"I’d rather my grandma stopped using the car to be honest. I admire her independence (also being in her early 80’s), but having been in the car with her.. I can’t help but feel it’s just a matter of time.

That is how i feel. When she said she was getting rid of the car i was relieved but shocked when she said she was replacing it."

It’s a delicate thing in my case.

She’s actually my step grandma, as my grandpa got re-married (having previously been a widower) at 80 to a younger woman! It was her first marriage though, in her mid seventies, and prior to that she’d always been single, and proudly and fiercely independent.

I don’t feel able to suggest it without crushing her sense of freedom, and with it her happiness. Tough though, as I live 3.5 hours away on a good day and can’t help her day to day.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

My Dad is getting on a bit and I do worry.

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Maybe i worry too much. She never learnt to drive until she was 52 and never been very confident but actually has never been in an accident.

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London

Everyone with any kind of driving licence should be retested every 10 years.

There is a lot of doggy 75+ drivers on the road

But then there are lots of doggy over 40s on the road for other reasons.

It crazy to me you could pass a driving test in the 60/70/80s in a mini

And legally not drive for years then go an buy/hire a modern day performance car with performance faster than actual racing cars from those eras

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield


"Maybe i worry too much. She never learnt to drive until she was 52 and never been very confident but actually has never been in an accident."

I’ve been in a few, generally caused by aggressive male drivers.

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London


"Older people have far fewer accidents than young people. They were taught to drive with concideration and properly. but there are acceptions But the majority are safer drivers ....."

Older driver have less accidents because proportional less drive in their age bracket then younger drivers

They also drive at less busy times

I.e not commuting and usually much shorter distances.

Yes experience plays a factor but how long does it take to a proficient driver 2 maybe 5 years if you don't drive much.

A car from the 60 or 70s is inherently worse and less safe then a modern car in every way as where the standards and techniques. It just there where less cars on the road

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By *moothshaftMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Yeah my mother is nearly 83 and still driving. Her eyes are tested regularly but still a worry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good for her independence, bad for other road users IMO. How will you / her feel if an accident happens due to her age or reaction speed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you stop an older person from driving. you are taking away their independance. As I said earlier most older people are safer drivers than young people. look at the statistics. Maybe should drive more carefully.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

I think older people have less accidents because they have been driving before most of us here were even born!

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

Both of my parents are in their 80s and still driving

My mother looks very glam in her sporty little number

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My granny and grandad both still drive, my grandads 73 and my granny is 69 this year. They’re both totally fine when driving, so no, not nervous about them. Have seen a lot of older drivers though that go about 17mph in a 50

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im 75 Ive bee driving since I was 12. (on the farm).I still ride my motorbike , I drive a Porche I reckon Im not a brilliant driver. but consider myself more tollerant and a safer driver than most.

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Well she has just phone to say she has bought a 4yr old fiat 500.

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan
over a year ago

Torquay

OAP's need to get to dogging sites as well, the buses often don't run that late

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

Dad, who's 84 now, hasn't driven in almost 18 months now since he developed a problem with one of his eyes, but the stubborn old sod says he's not giving it up altogether as he could drive with one eye if he had to

Mum's doing all the driving instead, although she's not as confident as she used to be, but at least they only go out locally these days. In fact, I think their car has just scraped 1000 miles since its MOT in November, and I've done 300 of those just keeping it ticking over....

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria


"Well she has just phone to say she has bought a 4yr old fiat 500."

hopefully an Abarth edition..

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Older people have far fewer accidents than young people. They were taught to drive with concideration and properly. but there are acceptions But the majority are safer drivers ....."

You are quiet correct, However unlike the younger drivers once they do have their one big accident they tend to either give it up or be forced to give it up. However in the most serious of cases involving maiming & death of other road users they are rarely given anymore of a sentence than giving up their licences. Younger drivers could face prison time.

I had a 46yr old biker friend taken out by an 82yr old woman who had been told by her Doctor for several years that she should not be driving, she ignored him. My friend died, Two kids under 15 & a widow.

The 82yr old surrendered her licence to the court, that was it, no fine, nothing more.

So her extra 7yrs of independence cost a lifetime of no father/husband for a family.

Seems a rather expensive seven years to me..

My father in law refused to stop driving, so we forced him in the end, No one would get in the car with him including his wife & we refused point blank to let them take the kids away for a break.

My brother in law is a biker too & we just see too often the outcome of accidents so we felt no shame in ganging up on dad.

Even now that the law has been changed many doctors are unwilling to report their patients to the DVLA. It used to be that they couldn't, now it's more they won't..More so in rural areas where it would cause hardship.

S

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By *uffnsmovCouple
over a year ago

Leeds/Wakefield


"Older people have far fewer accidents than young people. They were taught to drive with concideration and properly. but there are acceptions But the majority are safer drivers ....."

That statistic isn't based on miles covered. Miles covered over 75's are 30 times more likely to be involved in an accident.

My father at 85, will not be replacing his vehicle next year.

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London


"Well she has just phone to say she has bought a 4yr old fiat 500."

Let's hope it's not one of those Fiat 500 with a pokey twin air engine in it

Those things are death traps no matter who's in them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Older people have far fewer accidents than young people. They were taught to drive with concideration and properly. but there are acceptions But the majority are safer drivers ....."

With all due respect:

1: Not all young drivers are inconsiderate knobheads

2: It doesn't matter how considerate you are if your reaction times are shot, your hearing is iffy and your eyesight questionable.

In one way or another, for reasons I'm not going to go into I deal with multiple thousands of driving offenders annually, there is very little pattern to be discerned in the "Young drivers are just tossers" theory. In fact generally I'd say that the average age of the offenders will be well into the late 30s.

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London


"Older people have far fewer accidents than young people. They were taught to drive with concideration and properly. but there are acceptions But the majority are safer drivers .....

You are quiet correct, However unlike the younger drivers once they do have their one big accident they tend to either give it up or be forced to give it up. However in the most serious of cases involving maiming & death of other road users they are rarely given anymore of a sentence than giving up their licences. Younger drivers could face prison time.

I had a 46yr old biker friend taken out by an 82yr old woman who had been told by her Doctor for several years that she should not be driving, she ignored him. My friend died, Two kids under 15 & a widow.

The 82yr old surrendered her licence to the court, that was it, no fine, nothing more.

So her extra 7yrs of independence cost a lifetime of no father/husband for a family.

Seems a rather expensive seven years to me..

My father in law refused to stop driving, so we forced him in the end, No one would get in the car with him including his wife & we refused point blank to let them take the kids away for a break.

My brother in law is a biker too & we just see too often the outcome of accidents so we felt no shame in ganging up on dad.

Even now that the law has been changed many doctors are unwilling to report their patients to the DVLA. It used to be that they couldn't, now it's more they won't..More so in rural areas where it would cause hardship.

S"

Statistical it is bullshit.

You can massage any age group to be superior drivers in a number of ways

But I think you emotional comments makes a better point of it.

In the wrong hands a car is a weapon and no mutteringa of independence or quality of life should allow other human being to be endangered because someonelse can't accept changes to their lifestyle as they grow older.

If I became totally blind tomorrow... Should be allowed to drive, incase more of independence was taken away?

Mandatory retesting every 10-15 years

And performance capped limits.

Which need to be renewed also...

If you can afford a Ferrari you can afford £500 for an extra licence to drive it

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

In 3 to 4 years it's mandatory that all new cars come fitted with a speed limiter set with there satellite navigation..

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Older people have far fewer accidents than young people. They were taught to drive with concideration and properly. but there are acceptions But the majority are safer drivers .....

You are quiet correct, However unlike the younger drivers once they do have their one big accident they tend to either give it up or be forced to give it up. However in the most serious of cases involving maiming & death of other road users they are rarely given anymore of a sentence than giving up their licences. Younger drivers could face prison time.

I had a 46yr old biker friend taken out by an 82yr old woman who had been told by her Doctor for several years that she should not be driving, she ignored him. My friend died, Two kids under 15 & a widow.

The 82yr old surrendered her licence to the court, that was it, no fine, nothing more.

So her extra 7yrs of independence cost a lifetime of no father/husband for a family.

Seems a rather expensive seven years to me..

My father in law refused to stop driving, so we forced him in the end, No one would get in the car with him including his wife & we refused point blank to let them take the kids away for a break.

My brother in law is a biker too & we just see too often the outcome of accidents so we felt no shame in ganging up on dad.

Even now that the law has been changed many doctors are unwilling to report their patients to the DVLA. It used to be that they couldn't, now it's more they won't..More so in rural areas where it would cause hardship.

S

Statistical it is bullshit.

You can massage any age group to be superior drivers in a number of ways

But I think you emotional comments makes a better point of it.

In the wrong hands a car is a weapon and no mutteringa of independence or quality of life should allow other human being to be endangered because someonelse can't accept changes to their lifestyle as they grow older.

If I became totally blind tomorrow... Should be allowed to drive, incase more of independence was taken away?

Mandatory retesting every 10-15 years

And performance capped limits.

Which need to be renewed also...

If you can afford a Ferrari you can afford £500 for an extra licence to drive it"

There are minimum eyesight requirements to drive at any age.

Not many can afford Ferrari’s

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London


"Older people have far fewer accidents than young people. They were taught to drive with concideration and properly. but there are acceptions But the majority are safer drivers .....

You are quiet correct, However unlike the younger drivers once they do have their one big accident they tend to either give it up or be forced to give it up. However in the most serious of cases involving maiming & death of other road users they are rarely given anymore of a sentence than giving up their licences. Younger drivers could face prison time.

I had a 46yr old biker friend taken out by an 82yr old woman who had been told by her Doctor for several years that she should not be driving, she ignored him. My friend died, Two kids under 15 & a widow.

The 82yr old surrendered her licence to the court, that was it, no fine, nothing more.

So her extra 7yrs of independence cost a lifetime of no father/husband for a family.

Seems a rather expensive seven years to me..

My father in law refused to stop driving, so we forced him in the end, No one would get in the car with him including his wife & we refused point blank to let them take the kids away for a break.

My brother in law is a biker too & we just see too often the outcome of accidents so we felt no shame in ganging up on dad.

Even now that the law has been changed many doctors are unwilling to report their patients to the DVLA. It used to be that they couldn't, now it's more they won't..More so in rural areas where it would cause hardship.

S

Statistical it is bullshit.

You can massage any age group to be superior drivers in a number of ways

But I think you emotional comments makes a better point of it.

In the wrong hands a car is a weapon and no mutteringa of independence or quality of life should allow other human being to be endangered because someonelse can't accept changes to their lifestyle as they grow older.

If I became totally blind tomorrow... Should be allowed to drive, incase more of independence was taken away?

Mandatory retesting every 10-15 years

And performance capped limits.

Which need to be renewed also...

If you can afford a Ferrari you can afford £500 for an extra licence to drive it

There are minimum eyesight requirements to drive at any age.

Not many can afford Ferrari’s

"

And the people who can... Tend to be older.

Don't believe the social media hype... Most exotic car repeat customers are well into their 50s

Guess you've gotta have something more than a pocket full of viagra to impress the 20 somethings at that age

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By *ettyboop61Woman
over a year ago

St Neots


"Older people have far fewer accidents than young people. They were taught to drive with concideration and properly. but there are acceptions But the majority are safer drivers ....."

Well said

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By *abasaurus RexMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"Older people have far fewer accidents than young people. They were taught to drive with concideration and properly. but there are acceptions But the majority are safer drivers .....

Well said "

All drivers are taught properly and to be considerate but older people may be more inclined to remember this once they pass their test.

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By *abasaurus RexMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

The OP is talking about someone they know personally, and have doubts about their competence to still be behind the wheel. It’s not an assassination of all older people. As people age, they tend to have slower reaction times physically, and mentally. There also tend to be more underlying health complications that make it far from a clear cut situation. That’s just a fact of life, generally speaking. There will of course be exceptions.

It’s not ageism, it’s pragmatism.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

I am now 80 and drive almost every day and at any time of the day.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Depends on the driver rather than the age of the driver.

My father eventually had to stop driving as his eyesight failed. My aunt stopped at 84. Neither of them had ever been good drivers and the reason they didn't have accidents was down to other drivers being observant in my opinion. Each case should be judged on its merits. See if you can find a show called "100 year old drivers" anywhere.

As I was driving back from my parents today a guy in his 30s pulled out in front of me and a teen on a motorbike did too. I had to slam my brakes on each time.

Just guage their driving, make sure they stay on roads they know and trust them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well ifi a to be knocked off my motorbike then I hope its you. then you could give me the kiss of life xxxx

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By *uffnsmovCouple
over a year ago

Leeds/Wakefield


"In 3 to 4 years it's mandatory that all new cars come fitted with a speed limiter set with there satellite navigation.. "

No such mandatory legislation is due

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By *ouanna JoWoman
over a year ago

A little village

I worried about my grandad driving in his late 70s. He used to do 20mph along busy motorways, it was so dangerous. He developed dementia not long afterwards and was found miles from home having driven about 2 hours along the M6, with no idea where he was going. Scary what could have happened

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My Mum is 96. Her bestie is 95. Bestie drives them all over.....I cringe...

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"My Mum is 96. Her bestie is 95. Bestie drives them all over.....I cringe... "

Wow. That is quite frightening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My grandad is 83 and still drives no problem. But he’s in great health and drives sensibly, so it’s never worried me. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As much as I would hate to have to take a driving test now, commonsense dictates that over a certain age it may be a very good idea!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"well ifi a to be knocked off my motorbike then I hope its you. then you could give me the kiss of life xxxx"

I hope you never get knocked off though. It wouldn't be very nice for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well thats true. I have been knocked off twice. Once by a young lady who was on her phone. The other time by a deer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And NO I wasnt speeding

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah I feel like I'm going to get smashed up whenever I've been in the car with my father

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London


"As much as I would hate to have to take a driving test now, commonsense dictates that over a certain age it may be a very good idea!"

By no means I this ment to be an insult.

But if you are aware that you driving standards are below the (minimum) requirement.

That's logic telling you either need to brush up your skills

Or retire that licence.

I just wish more people had your honesty.

Cars are lethal in the wrong hands or wrong situation. Its not a joke or something to massage your ego about.

Would we be having the same conversation about old age if this was about a firearms licence?

I wouldnt feel that safe giving an 80 year old a 12 gauge or even a 16 gauge shotgun either.

Age provides wisdom it also takes some of your physical abilities.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Think they should let older drivers use the cycle lanes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think they should let older drivers use the cycle lanes."

Gulp!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At 67 I find I drive slower and take more care, realising my reflexes are not as they were. Have to be more aware and think about it more these days. In Japan you can get a sticker, like an L plate to put on your car indicating you are an elderly person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as they aren't driving a BMW without the optional indicators then they are probably better drivers than most 'millenials'.

At least if you do end up in an accident with an older person, then, they are less likely to be on an attempt to get the record for the Kessel Run (so the results won't be as severe), never mind the lap record at the Nurburgring... (Done that and yep was faster than Sabine Schmitz in her Transit van, nearly hit a twonk in a 911 Turbo who couldn't drive for toffee but that's a different story.

So basically, Stirling Moss (RIP) or Twatty McBoost (it's a measure of restriction not flow ffs), I know which one I'd prefer to be a passenger with.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"As long as they aren't driving a BMW without the optional indicators then they are probably better drivers than most 'millenials'.

At least if you do end up in an accident with an older person, then, they are less likely to be on an attempt to get the record for the Kessel Run (so the results won't be as severe), never mind the lap record at the Nurburgring... (Done that and yep was faster than Sabine Schmitz in her Transit van, nearly hit a twonk in a 911 Turbo who couldn't drive for toffee but that's a different story.

So basically, Stirling Moss (RIP) or Twatty McBoost (it's a measure of restriction not flow ffs), I know which one I'd prefer to be a passenger with.

"

Only in my experience

Many drivers of a certain age are a risk to both themselves and other road users

The risk in my experience is higher than the statisticall risk of younger drivers

My comments above DO NOT exclude the facts

Some young drivers are also lethal and some older drivers are absolutely excellent

Numbers wise however

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As long as they aren't driving a BMW without the optional indicators then they are probably better drivers than most 'millenials'.

At least if you do end up in an accident with an older person, then, they are less likely to be on an attempt to get the record for the Kessel Run (so the results won't be as severe), never mind the lap record at the Nurburgring... (Done that and yep was faster than Sabine Schmitz in her Transit van, nearly hit a twonk in a 911 Turbo who couldn't drive for toffee but that's a different story.

So basically, Stirling Moss (RIP) or Twatty McBoost (it's a measure of restriction not flow ffs), I know which one I'd prefer to be a passenger with.

Only in my experience

Many drivers of a certain age are a risk to both themselves and other road users

The risk in my experience is higher than the statisticall risk of younger drivers

My comments above DO NOT exclude the facts

Some young drivers are also lethal and some older drivers are absolutely excellent

Numbers wise however "

Cards on the table, I do remaps, I build engines, design brake systems, etc.

Biggest claim to shame, is probably, building an engine for a customer in Australia that was more powerful, and as it happens, more reliable than a certain one that powered an Elise that Adrian Newey commisioned

I need the Millenials to keep me in work, nut gawd, most can't drive or have any mechanical appreciation.

Don't get me wrong, technology and modern engine management has moved things on leaps and bounds, it's much easier and more efficient to adjust a number on a laptop than it is to drill out a jet or file a needle, don't even mention bob weights, springs, and vacuum for ignition advance.

I just think it's wrong (generally) to judge people on age and not ability.

Most cars these days you don't even need to put a handbrake on manually.

I'll also admit that my daily driver has adaptive cruise control, lane assist, automatic handbrake and a flappy paddle gearbox.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"As long as they aren't driving a BMW without the optional indicators then they are probably better drivers than most 'millenials'.

At least if you do end up in an accident with an older person, then, they are less likely to be on an attempt to get the record for the Kessel Run (so the results won't be as severe), never mind the lap record at the Nurburgring... (Done that and yep was faster than Sabine Schmitz in her Transit van, nearly hit a twonk in a 911 Turbo who couldn't drive for toffee but that's a different story.

So basically, Stirling Moss (RIP) or Twatty McBoost (it's a measure of restriction not flow ffs), I know which one I'd prefer to be a passenger with.

Only in my experience

Many drivers of a certain age are a risk to both themselves and other road users

The risk in my experience is higher than the statisticall risk of younger drivers

My comments above DO NOT exclude the facts

Some young drivers are also lethal and some older drivers are absolutely excellent

Numbers wise however

Cards on the table, I do remaps, I build engines, design brake systems, etc.

Biggest claim to shame, is probably, building an engine for a customer in Australia that was more powerful, and as it happens, more reliable than a certain one that powered an Elise that Adrian Newey commisioned

I need the Millenials to keep me in work, nut gawd, most can't drive or have any mechanical appreciation.

Don't get me wrong, technology and modern engine management has moved things on leaps and bounds, it's much easier and more efficient to adjust a number on a laptop than it is to drill out a jet or file a needle, don't even mention bob weights, springs, and vacuum for ignition advance.

I just think it's wrong (generally) to judge people on age and not ability.

Most cars these days you don't even need to put a handbrake on manually.

I'll also admit that my daily driver has adaptive cruise control, lane assist, automatic handbrake and a flappy paddle gearbox.

"

Youre only 50

Cards on table my average age of clients is 68

More than 30 percent should not be driving

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As long as they aren't driving a BMW without the optional indicators then they are probably better drivers than most 'millenials'.

At least if you do end up in an accident with an older person, then, they are less likely to be on an attempt to get the record for the Kessel Run (so the results won't be as severe), never mind the lap record at the Nurburgring... (Done that and yep was faster than Sabine Schmitz in her Transit van, nearly hit a twonk in a 911 Turbo who couldn't drive for toffee but that's a different story.

So basically, Stirling Moss (RIP) or Twatty McBoost (it's a measure of restriction not flow ffs), I know which one I'd prefer to be a passenger with.

Only in my experience

Many drivers of a certain age are a risk to both themselves and other road users

The risk in my experience is higher than the statisticall risk of younger drivers

My comments above DO NOT exclude the facts

Some young drivers are also lethal and some older drivers are absolutely excellent

Numbers wise however

Cards on the table, I do remaps, I build engines, design brake systems, etc.

Biggest claim to shame, is probably, building an engine for a customer in Australia that was more powerful, and as it happens, more reliable than a certain one that powered an Elise that Adrian Newey commisioned

I need the Millenials to keep me in work, nut gawd, most can't drive or have any mechanical appreciation.

Don't get me wrong, technology and modern engine management has moved things on leaps and bounds, it's much easier and more efficient to adjust a number on a laptop than it is to drill out a jet or file a needle, don't even mention bob weights, springs, and vacuum for ignition advance.

I just think it's wrong (generally) to judge people on age and not ability.

Most cars these days you don't even need to put a handbrake on manually.

I'll also admit that my daily driver has adaptive cruise control, lane assist, automatic handbrake and a flappy paddle gearbox.

Youre only 50

Cards on table my average age of clients is 68

More than 30 percent should not be driving

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I'm actually 48 ya cheeky git, I don't round up/down power figures or my age

30% of people on the road (at least) should never have been given a license, whatever age.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they drive Fiat it is all good

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

The memory of being sat in the car with my Grampy as he drove the wrong way around a roundabout still haunts me. Thankfully it was 6am and nobody else was around

He stopped driving after that.

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By *asher11Man
over a year ago

market harborough

lets face it at 91 my dads less likely to lose control through getting a blow job whilst driving mind you i wouldnt put it passed him lol

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By *r Costa xxMan
over a year ago

stirling


"Well she has just phone to say she has bought a 4yr old fiat 500."

What colour, I’ll make sure I take a wide berth overtaking her at 20mph

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

We have recently confiscated my Dad's car. He was found by the Police 3hrs from home, unable to explain where he was going, not making much sense. I got the old Bill on the phone at 02.30 asking me to collect him (also over 3hrs for me to go). Docs have said he shouldn't drive for 2 months but then take an assessment?! I'm loathed to give it back but if I don't, I've technically stolen it. I don't feel very supported by the relevant authorities. My Dad has obvious dementia but again, they decline to agree, although the episode with the Police has provoked them a bit. I don't live near him, he has my brother and I and that's it, so it's very challenging. I don't want to go into any more detail, but it's all incredibly stressful.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"The OP is talking about someone they know personally, and have doubts about their competence to still be behind the wheel. It’s not an assassination of all older people. As people age, they tend to have slower reaction times physically, and mentally. There also tend to be more underlying health complications that make it far from a clear cut situation. That’s just a fact of life, generally speaking. There will of course be exceptions.

It’s not ageism, it’s pragmatism. "

It's clearly ageism.

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By *ukeM8519Man
over a year ago

South Dublin

Loved this documentary about 3 years ago on TV. ‘100 year old drivers Uk’. Well worth a watch

https://youtu.be/gHBV4n6PyjQ

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

From a 2017 publication

Relative to the two most debated and challenged driver categories, some may argue that this is a fair deal – particularly where young drivers are concerned. After all, young drivers are at a much higher risk of being involved in and causing a car crash. An undeniable force to be reckoned with; there is an estimated 2.7 million people under the age of 25 who hold a full driving license; 1.3 million of which are under the age of 22; totalling 7% of all UK drivers.

What’s more, though drivers aged 17-19 only make up 1.5% of UK license holders; they are involved in 9% of fatal crashes where they are the driver – and altogether, drivers under the age of 25 cause 85% of all ‘serious injury’ accidents therefore, disproportionally effecting insurance claims. In fact, last year, a report by the Department for Transport released statistics detailing the number of fatalities and killed or seriously injured collision cases involving young car drivers specifically (aged 17 – 24-years-old), which altogether amounted to 4,561 incidents.

Nevertheless, some claim that young drivers are no more dangerous on the roads than older drivers. Recent figures from the UK’s Department for Transport revealed that there is an estimated 4.5 million people aged 70 or over in the UK who have a full driver’s licence – 236 of whom are aged 100 or over; a far larger number than young drivers.

It is clear to see from data released by Gov.uk last year, that drivers aged 20–29 pose the most risk on our roads. With dramatically higher figures than any other age group, drivers in their twenties were last year involved in 20,841 road incidents of all severities – considerably higher than any other age group and drastically greater than road incidents of all severities involving drivers aged 70–79 (3,254) and road incidents involving drivers aged 80 and over (1,939.)

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Granny, all the data in the world is not going to make me give my Dad his car back. When you are 3hrs from home at 02.30 with no idea where you are, how you got there or how to get home, with Police querying a stroke (nope, just dementia), you are not fit to drive. I'd say that about anyone at any age if they did the same. How is it safe to drive when it's evident there is no concept of the need for sleep, no ability to plan, no ability to understand where you are etc? The system of allowing people to certify themselves fit is unfit for purpose. Even now, unless I'd removed the vehicle, he could still drive. His doctor told him not to and put it on his medical records, but he doesn't bloody remember!! If the car was there, he'd drive, against the doctors advice and then would be not only confused, but uninsured and heaven forbid his poor planning caused an accident.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I get that.

I didn't stick the stats there in opposition to what you said. I put them there for those that have no evidence but say 'older drivers' shouldn't drive.

You are not stopping your dad due to age. You are stopping him with good reason. Just as I wouldn't stop someone because they are young but would stop them if they had poor eyesight or a damaged limb.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I get that.

I didn't stick the stats there in opposition to what you said. I put them there for those that have no evidence but say 'older drivers' shouldn't drive.

You are not stopping your dad due to age. You are stopping him with good reason. Just as I wouldn't stop someone because they are young but would stop them if they had poor eyesight or a damaged limb.

"

I have a damaged limb

I also have an adapted clutch. Is that OK Granny?!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I get that.

I didn't stick the stats there in opposition to what you said. I put them there for those that have no evidence but say 'older drivers' shouldn't drive.

You are not stopping your dad due to age. You are stopping him with good reason. Just as I wouldn't stop someone because they are young but would stop them if they had poor eyesight or a damaged limb.

I have a damaged limb

I also have an adapted clutch. Is that OK Granny?! "

Yeah. I'll let you off on that one.

Obvs I wasn't talking about disabled drivers ........ hmmmmmmmmmmmm now there's a thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From a 2017 publication

Relative to the two most debated and challenged driver categories, some may argue that this is a fair deal – particularly where young drivers are concerned. After all, young drivers are at a much higher risk of being involved in and causing a car crash. An undeniable force to be reckoned with; there is an estimated 2.7 million people under the age of 25 who hold a full driving license; 1.3 million of which are under the age of 22; totalling 7% of all UK drivers.

What’s more, though drivers aged 17-19 only make up 1.5% of UK license holders; they are involved in 9% of fatal crashes where they are the driver – and altogether, drivers under the age of 25 cause 85% of all ‘serious injury’ accidents therefore, disproportionally effecting insurance claims. In fact, last year, a report by the Department for Transport released statistics detailing the number of fatalities and killed or seriously injured collision cases involving young car drivers specifically (aged 17 – 24-years-old), which altogether amounted to 4,561 incidents.

Nevertheless, some claim that young drivers are no more dangerous on the roads than older drivers. Recent figures from the UK’s Department for Transport revealed that there is an estimated 4.5 million people aged 70 or over in the UK who have a full driver’s licence – 236 of whom are aged 100 or over; a far larger number than young drivers.

It is clear to see from data released by Gov.uk last year, that drivers aged 20–29 pose the most risk on our roads. With dramatically higher figures than any other age group, drivers in their twenties were last year involved in 20,841 road incidents of all severities – considerably higher than any other age group and drastically greater than road incidents of all severities involving drivers aged 70–79 (3,254) and road incidents involving drivers aged 80 and over (1,939.)"

I think lots of people are missing the point. These statisticsl arguments are based on behaviour... hence how accident reduction is targeted. The discussion around older drivers is not around behaviour nor experience it's competence... based on declining reaction times, eye sight etc. Etc. Cognitive decline often causes dangerous driving... but it won't be seen in the same way a 20 year old will miss judge a corner at a high speed. An "older driver" is much more likely to go too slow on a motor way or miss navigate road markings... if we look at the concern addressed in the thread... no doubt people are worried about their boy racer 20 year old son... but address this risk by urging caution or an added box... and in the same way when worrying about older drivers will consider their competence to continue driving. Furthermore, injuries sustained in a crash are far more likely to result in fatalities the older you are.

Here is a little tip I picked up from a friend ... he simply booked a driving refresher/ lesson for his mum and they then gave him some indication afterwards.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

No.

The stats were based on the number of accidents/deaths per age group.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I get that.

I didn't stick the stats there in opposition to what you said. I put them there for those that have no evidence but say 'older drivers' shouldn't drive.

You are not stopping your dad due to age. You are stopping him with good reason. Just as I wouldn't stop someone because they are young but would stop them if they had poor eyesight or a damaged limb.

I have a damaged limb

I also have an adapted clutch. Is that OK Granny?!

Yeah. I'll let you off on that one.

Obvs I wasn't talking about disabled drivers ........ hmmmmmmmmmmmm now there's a thought "

Oi, gerrof my clutch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mum is 90 and still driving. She doesn't go far. She will have to give up soon. Mascular degeneration.

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By *am450Man
over a year ago

North Kent/Greater London


"My mum is excited as buying a new car this week. She is almost 81. As much as i admire her independence i worry about her driving. Does anyone else have elderly parents who still drive and how do you feel about them doing so?"

You could perhaps try discussing it with them my father gave up his licence not willingly but was " mature" enough to recognise he wasn't as confident as he was although he was aware he had dementia you might even see if you can be with them in the car? Ask for a ride in the new one ask hos it compares is it better?easier to drive? Will it take get used to do they think? May not provide a definitive answer but might help put your mind at rest to some extent....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All these comments are ageist. we could say the same about other drivers of other origins.

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London


"All these comments are ageist. we could say the same about other drivers of other origins. "

All?

No these comments have pointed out statistical facts and including the body and mind degrades over time.

You can wrap that up in whatever discrimination banner you want.

Discrimination works positively and negatively.

One thing I have learnt from this though is... aging doesn't guarantee emotional maturity.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"All these comments are ageist. we could say the same about other drivers of other origins. "

Its ageist to point out that your parent with dementia who was a found confused, by the Police, 3hrs from home, is now unfit to drive??? Several doctors have agreed. The problem is that there is no mechanism to actually prevent him from driving other than confiscating his car. Just writing on medical records "unfit to drive" does not stop the person from driving

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley

My mother still drives and is 86...gir as a fiddle, have no worries about her driving at all...

But if she was to announce she was going to drive more than a 50 mile radius...i would be maybe a little concerned....

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley


"My mother still drives and is 86...gir as a fiddle, have no worries about her driving at all...

But if she was to announce she was going to drive more than a 50 mile radius...i would be maybe a little concerned...."

Fit.....was meant to say...

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

If it was up to me - i make everyone take some kind of test every 5 or 10 years (or so) to show they're still fit to drive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All these comments are ageist. we could say the same about other drivers of other origins.

Its ageist to point out that your parent with dementia who was a found confused, by the Police, 3hrs from home, is now unfit to drive??? Several doctors have agreed. The problem is that there is no mechanism to actually prevent him from driving other than confiscating his car. Just writing on medical records "unfit to drive" does not stop the person from driving"

This I agree with, there is a valid and substantial reason as to why he should not drive, lumping everyone together because of age is, however, not the right thing to do.

I didn't drive for about 18 months due to issues with my vision although I was told I still met the standards, I wasn't confident that I would be a safe and proficient driver so voluntarily didn't drive. The law is very binary, it needs to have a bit of common sense applied sometimes.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"All these comments are ageist. we could say the same about other drivers of other origins.

Its ageist to point out that your parent with dementia who was a found confused, by the Police, 3hrs from home, is now unfit to drive??? Several doctors have agreed. The problem is that there is no mechanism to actually prevent him from driving other than confiscating his car. Just writing on medical records "unfit to drive" does not stop the person from driving

This I agree with, there is a valid and substantial reason as to why he should not drive, lumping everyone together because of age is, however, not the right thing to do.

I didn't drive for about 18 months due to issues with my vision although I was told I still met the standards, I wasn't confident that I would be a safe and proficient driver so voluntarily didn't drive. The law is very binary, it needs to have a bit of common sense applied sometimes."

The problem is that cancelling licenses "on paper" and writing things on medical records still does not stop the person driving. If the family are not able to remove the car or the person voluntarily stops, then they can continue to get into a potentially lethal weapon. I have effectively stolen my Dad's car

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All these comments are ageist. we could say the same about other drivers of other origins.

Its ageist to point out that your parent with dementia who was a found confused, by the Police, 3hrs from home, is now unfit to drive??? Several doctors have agreed. The problem is that there is no mechanism to actually prevent him from driving other than confiscating his car. Just writing on medical records "unfit to drive" does not stop the person from driving

This I agree with, there is a valid and substantial reason as to why he should not drive, lumping everyone together because of age is, however, not the right thing to do.

I didn't drive for about 18 months due to issues with my vision although I was told I still met the standards, I wasn't confident that I would be a safe and proficient driver so voluntarily didn't drive. The law is very binary, it needs to have a bit of common sense applied sometimes.

The problem is that cancelling licenses "on paper" and writing things on medical records still does not stop the person driving. If the family are not able to remove the car or the person voluntarily stops, then they can continue to get into a potentially lethal weapon. I have effectively stolen my Dad's car "

That's when the law needs common sense, you've not stolen it, you've confiscated it for his best interests.

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By *ids_NaughtyCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands


"From a 2017 publication

Relative to the two most debated and challenged driver categories, some may argue that this is a fair deal – particularly where young drivers are concerned. After all, young drivers are at a much higher risk of being involved in and causing a car crash. An undeniable force to be reckoned with; there is an estimated 2.7 million people under the age of 25 who hold a full driving license; 1.3 million of which are under the age of 22; totalling 7% of all UK drivers.

What’s more, though drivers aged 17-19 only make up 1.5% of UK license holders; they are involved in 9% of fatal crashes where they are the driver – and altogether, drivers under the age of 25 cause 85% of all ‘serious injury’ accidents therefore, disproportionally effecting insurance claims. In fact, last year, a report by the Department for Transport released statistics detailing the number of fatalities and killed or seriously injured collision cases involving young car drivers specifically (aged 17 – 24-years-old), which altogether amounted to 4,561 incidents.

Nevertheless, some claim that young drivers are no more dangerous on the roads than older drivers. Recent figures from the UK’s Department for Transport revealed that there is an estimated 4.5 million people aged 70 or over in the UK who have a full driver’s licence – 236 of whom are aged 100 or over; a far larger number than young drivers.

It is clear to see from data released by Gov.uk last year, that drivers aged 20–29 pose the most risk on our roads. With dramatically higher figures than any other age group, drivers in their twenties were last year involved in 20,841 road incidents of all severities – considerably higher than any other age group and drastically greater than road incidents of all severities involving drivers aged 70–79 (3,254) and road incidents involving drivers aged 80 and over (1,939.)"

They don’t really paint any clear picture and usual statistics that miss a whole bunch of other factors. Amount of Miles driven, roads used and how frequently(number of people that drive on a motorway about twice a year for holiday vs everyday commute , times of day and cars used etc - these equally likely to relate to age. I.e car you buy due age(family needs) financial ability. Whether your driving is during peak commuting times, motorway or town, if you have choice not to drive in bad conditions(I.e retired vs working) if you drive your own car, and maybe work vans etc. I don’t think comparing someone whose driving as been the local school run and to the garden centre in their retirement vs someone that commutes everyday on motorways and cities, and then claiming that one Is better that the other. Lewis Hamilton has had more crashes than all of us but not sure we would claim we are better drivers than he his is!

While age will also in some cases link to “risk” for say experience, attitude, or health. I think it’s wrong to just say if you young/old passed a certain age you are at risk. Some 60 yo physically be less healthy than a 90 year old. However I do think there a number of elderly drivers that while I respect their independence need to know when it’s time to jack it in. 3 weeks ago a man in his 70s, pulled straight into the side of me on a dual carriage way - spun my car 360 degrees during rush hour - the dash cam footage UA scary as you see me face at one stage to the traffic which was both lanes full of cars and lorries - all who some how managed to miss me as i spun around. Thankfully nobody was hurt - the elderly gentleman once rescued from his car explained it was his second accident in days - had previously had UA licence taken away because they had a concern about his health, I felt awful for him as clearly he enjoyed his independence and driving - but his clear lack of competence and health now was not just only risking his own life but had i not controlled the spin and had the reaction of the other cars behind been as good his actions could have resulted in the death or serious injuries of many.

So age isn’t the thing - but if someone’s health/attitude and competency isn’t good then they clearly shouldn’t be driving(21 or 91)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't get me started on this! My mum is 76, drives like a Devil and has just ordered herself a new bloody sports car! I'm besides myself right now!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we all just agree that being a decent, safe and considerate driver is not about age but about your attitude and ability.

I've been in 1000bhp plus cars with people that shouldn't be allowed on a skateboard but equally been on track with people that have only 150bhp but make the most of it.

Not everyone is a naturally decent driver just as not everyone is meant to be a rocket brain surgeon scientist engineer

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Update

My mum was as pleased as punch with her new car and actually drove it very well. Then on Monday she tripped whilst getting out of it and broke her hip. Now in hospital recovering from op. Poor soul.

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By *he BWCMan
over a year ago

Stafford


"My mum is excited as buying a new car this week. She is almost 81. As much as i admire her independence i worry about her driving. Does anyone else have elderly parents who still drive and how do you feel about them doing so?"

Feel for you and yes I too have an elderly person I worry about my dad he still drives and I do worry as I know he's hgetting on and he's very independent bless him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

your mum sounds good to me.

shes full of life

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"your mum sounds good to me.

shes full of life"

She was until she fell on Monday. Not such a happy soul now and maybe not drive again.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"your mum sounds good to me.

shes full of life

She was until she fell on Monday. Not such a happy soul now and maybe not drive again."

It's horrible when an older person has a fall. Is she badly hurt? It's surprising how resilient the human body is. Hope she recovers well

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"your mum sounds good to me.

shes full of life

She was until she fell on Monday. Not such a happy soul now and maybe not drive again.

It's horrible when an older person has a fall. Is she badly hurt? It's surprising how resilient the human body is. Hope she recovers well "

Thank you. She fell whilst getting out of the car and broke her hip. She needed an op and is in hospital. Hard for us all as no visitors allowed but she is a tough cookie and doing well.x

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"your mum sounds good to me.

shes full of life

She was until she fell on Monday. Not such a happy soul now and maybe not drive again.

It's horrible when an older person has a fall. Is she badly hurt? It's surprising how resilient the human body is. Hope she recovers well

Thank you. She fell whilst getting out of the car and broke her hip. She needed an op and is in hospital. Hard for us all as no visitors allowed but she is a tough cookie and doing well.x"

Poor thing. Getting in and out of cars is a common problem when it comes to falling.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Sorry to hear about your mum, Bluebell. My brother sold my dad's car (with his consent) so that's another worry off my mind. Phew.

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

I really can not see her driving again now although will never say never as she is very strong willed.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I really can not see her driving again now although will never say never as she is very strong willed."

My aunt had 2 hip replacements and continued to drive. I'm not willing to comment on whether this was advisable or not...

It's amazing what a good recovery period and proper physio can do though.

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By *istalloverCouple
over a year ago

Pays de la Loire -Normandie -Brittany borderFrance

A friend of ours is 85,

he had a small accident 10 mph at a junction

When questioned by the police ,He was asked what was the last thing you remember before the accident.

Being hit by that woman talking on her mobile phone .

(She wasnt ,the passenger was)

Moral is

they may be elder than you but clever with it too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"your mum sounds good to me.

shes full of life

She was until she fell on Monday. Not such a happy soul now and maybe not drive again."

Oh I'm sorry to hear that. I hope she will be alright.

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"I really can not see her driving again now although will never say never as she is very strong willed.

My aunt had 2 hip replacements and continued to drive. I'm not willing to comment on whether this was advisable or not...

It's amazing what a good recovery period and proper physio can do though. "

Apparently she is doing very well and i am sure she will bounce back and surprise us all. Guess it pays to be active in your older years as she walks alot and goes to the aqua aerobics.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I really can not see her driving again now although will never say never as she is very strong willed.

My aunt had 2 hip replacements and continued to drive. I'm not willing to comment on whether this was advisable or not...

It's amazing what a good recovery period and proper physio can do though.

Apparently she is doing very well and i am sure she will bounce back and surprise us all. Guess it pays to be active in your older years as she walks alot and goes to the aqua aerobics."

Definitely! My father is mid nineties, he's hurt his back. A paramedic phoned him to prescribe some medication and asked how he did it.

"Building a shed" was my dad's reply.

The paramedic just said, after a lengthy pause

"Good God man!"

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over a year ago

My mum is 91 and still driving. Still doing the housework though she has a gardener now. She says to me she forgets how old she is and runs up the stairs and then has to sit down when she gets to the top!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Erm not really, my dads 68 he does regular track days with me i have to say hes bloody sharp and not many get past him.

My mums 66 i feel safer with her driving than many of my mates my age.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"I think older people have less accidents because they have been driving before most of us here were even born! "
driving was much more difficult years back. Try driving a car without power steering. Today's lot of drivers have it so much easier and yet many shouldn't be let loose on a, road

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've just managed to get Dad to part with his car

He's 83 and has dementia

He hasn't driven for over 12 months, but liked to look outside and see his car

I thought he was over it, until yesterday when I found him on his laptop looking at, you guessed it... Cars

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My mum is excited as buying a new car this week. She is almost 81. As much as i admire her independence i worry about her driving. Does anyone else have elderly parents who still drive and how do you feel about them doing so?"

My great grandparents still drive and they’re both in their 90’s, I’d rather get in a car with them than my mum.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"We've just managed to get Dad to part with his car

He's 83 and has dementia

He hasn't driven for over 12 months, but liked to look outside and see his car

I thought he was over it, until yesterday when I found him on his laptop looking at, you guessed it... Cars "

Are you my brother?!

We sold my dad's car in September, he agreed etc. Now he's talking about buying.........a car

It's like groundhog day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We've just managed to get Dad to part with his car

He's 83 and has dementia

He hasn't driven for over 12 months, but liked to look outside and see his car

I thought he was over it, until yesterday when I found him on his laptop looking at, you guessed it... Cars

Are you my brother?!

We sold my dad's car in September, he agreed etc. Now he's talking about buying.........a car

It's like groundhog day "

Please don't do that to me

The panic was telling on my face as I quickly rushed to check your ages

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Ironically after starting this thread 14weeks ago my mum has had an accident involving her new car. She fell when getting out the bloody thing and broke her hip.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"We've just managed to get Dad to part with his car

He's 83 and has dementia

He hasn't driven for over 12 months, but liked to look outside and see his car

I thought he was over it, until yesterday when I found him on his laptop looking at, you guessed it... Cars

Are you my brother?!

We sold my dad's car in September, he agreed etc. Now he's talking about buying.........a car

It's like groundhog day

Please don't do that to me

The panic was telling on my face as I quickly rushed to check your ages "

Sorry, it was tongue in cheek! My Dad is only 81

Bluebell - sorry to hear about your mum and her hip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ironically after starting this thread 14weeks ago my mum has had an accident involving her new car. She fell when getting out the bloody thing and broke her hip."

Oh Deary me

I hope she is on the road to recovery

(no pun intended )

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By *luebell888 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"Ironically after starting this thread 14weeks ago my mum has had an accident involving her new car. She fell when getting out the bloody thing and broke her hip.

Oh Deary me

I hope she is on the road to recovery

(no pun intended ) "

Thanks. She is making a speedy recovery and said she will be driving again by Xmas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My Dad was 84 when he gave up his licence.

He had been taught to drive in the Army when he joined the transport regiment in 1948. Not a bad thing you'd think. The only things he was taught to drive were petrol bowsers, lorries of all sizes and tank transporters and not cars!!

He never passed a civilian test but got a civvy licence when he left the army in 1951 by some quirk of the rules at the time.

In all the years of driving he never had a bump at all. He drove many thousands of miles during his time on the road.

The reason why he surrendered his licence was that he said he realised he had difficulty in judging speed and distance when he was at a junction where he had to give way.

I'm in my 60s now and been driving since 1973 and - touch wood - never had a bump. Mind you I was a policeman then and it was a requirement that we had to drive due to the wide rural area that was part of our patch. I was taught to drive at the West Yorkshire Constabulary driving centre at Crofton by advanced road traffic police drivers and passed my test at first attempt. At the time that test was recognised by the Institute of Advanced Motorists. There has been many an occasion for me to thank my training for getting me out of situations that could have had serious consequences resulting in a collision.

In my humble opinion, every driver should be made to have a driving theory and practical test at the age of 70 and every 5 years thereafter. Plus a mandatory eyesight test at the same time. That should make the roads that little bit safer.

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By *inkyfun2013Couple
over a year ago

lewisham

We had concerns about Mr K's mum driving. She's 88 and had a couple of minor prangs but of course they were never her fault...

She was diagnosed with early-stage dementia earlier this year and generally functions well but we asked the doctor to refuse to approve her driving licence being renewed as we felt it was too risky for not only her but other road users. She lives on a road with 2 schools and we were worried about her reactions. When DVLA wrote to her and said they were revoking her licence she was absolutely furious. She's still complaining about it but we haven't told her that we asked for it as she'd find that really disloyal. We have no regrets though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mum was still driving at 84, went everywhere with my sunny as navigator, she was 87 and her job was to look out for speed cameras and the police! Priceless

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough


"She is almost 81. As much as i admire her independence i worry about her driving. "

I suggested that my dad (also 81) might hang up his driving gloves after being a front seat passenger on a terrifying drive from his home to Sheffield.

Using the central markers on the road to position the car and driving at 50 mph on the motorway convinced me to have the necessary conversation.

Allowing someone to continue driving if they are medically unfit or no longer competent goes way beyond the issue of independence.

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By *yrdsisWoman
over a year ago

Gleam Street

Dad is only 73... has started driving like he's on Top Gear.. think that years of throwing a van around has given him a sense if "yeah.. whatever!"

Will admit he's great when his Grandpuppy is in the boot.. m

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Treat your parent to an off road experience and ask the instructor to do an honest review of the day's driving.

Sneaky, but caring.

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