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"Yeah I think we do, my partner is funny, sexy, intelligent gorgeous all round goody. Bit like me really!! " like you my partner is very much like me. short fat and hairy | |||
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"so in essence i'm asking for opinions on people who both work equally as hard (whatever the job would be)... and peoples who's incomes would roughly be the same." work ethic = yes type of job = no income = no | |||
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"Ok that thread title probably doesn't make sense.. i'll explain. Was wondering earlier do people tend to select partners based on their lifestyles and jobs? As in have you known a lawyer to date a domestic assistant? or a Doctor to date a bin man? Obviously if the people click and get on that's the initial spark, but does a persons 'social status' effect your choice in partner? If you were a multi millionaire who works exceptionally hard would you date someone who had never worked? Im just putting it out there as i thought that like does attract like, so those with high earning jobs do tend to end up with someone with a similar work ethic and drive. " To answer your question Sassy, which no-one else has bothered, probably yes. Of course they are exceptions, but people in work will, generally, socialise with those of a similar position. They will live in areas corresponding to their income, and again, socialise with their neighbours. | |||
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"as long as people have worked, have an intent to work or if their health allowed would work.... we would get on. if they don't, we won't" Well put!! But don't forget - as the great philosopher Paula Abdul once said - "Opposites Attract!" | |||
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"Ok that thread title probably doesn't make sense.. i'll explain. Was wondering earlier do people tend to select partners based on their lifestyles and jobs? As in have you known a lawyer to date a domestic assistant? or a Doctor to date a bin man? Obviously if the people click and get on that's the initial spark, but does a persons 'social status' effect your choice in partner? If you were a multi millionaire who works exceptionally hard would you date someone who had never worked? Im just putting it out there as i thought that like does attract like, so those with high earning jobs do tend to end up with someone with a similar work ethic and drive. " just love sexy women with accomodating assets and a warm smile....lol couldnt care what they did for a job is that shallow of me????? | |||
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"as long as people have worked, have an intent to work or if their health allowed would work.... we would get on. if they don't, we won't" Ah the good old Protestant work ethic, rooted in Calvinism and introduced into Britain by Puritan elements within Protestantism. | |||
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"as long as people have worked, have an intent to work or if their health allowed would work.... we would get on. if they don't, we won't Well put!! But don't forget - as the great philosopher Paula Abdul once said - "Opposites Attract!" " "Hard work is the refuge of somebody who has absolutely nothing better to do". | |||
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"For dating/relationship I prefer people from the same socio-economic background. I've tried outside of that but it doesn't work and I've become resentful." I agree with you - and it is all about being aware and honest with yourself. | |||
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"If the guy doesnt have a similar background and/or tastes then what have you got in common? So for me yes it matters" Take meeting on this site for example, you can have plenty of things sexually in common and that's perhaps why you were drawn to each other initially. I dont ask what a man does for a living i find out as natural conversation flows. If i found out he was Prince Harry (long shot i know) i would for some reason stand off and back away from him as its a different way of living he has. - Extreme example i know | |||
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"If the guy doesnt have a similar background and/or tastes then what have you got in common? So for me yes it matters Take meeting on this site for example, you can have plenty of things sexually in common and that's perhaps why you were drawn to each other initially. I dont ask what a man does for a living i find out as natural conversation flows. If i found out he was Prince Harry (long shot i know) i would for some reason stand off and back away from him as its a different way of living he has. - Extreme example i know" Do you think that in swinging you can have an awesome chemistry with somebody perhaps because you dont know that much about them? | |||
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"If i liked love a man i could not care if a bin man or what ever thay did for job ..... as long as love is there ." Thats because you are a very accepting, tolerant lady - wish I could sometimes be more like that | |||
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"If the guy doesnt have a similar background and/or tastes then what have you got in common? So for me yes it matters Take meeting on this site for example, you can have plenty of things sexually in common and that's perhaps why you were drawn to each other initially. I dont ask what a man does for a living i find out as natural conversation flows. If i found out he was Prince Harry (long shot i know) i would for some reason stand off and back away from him as its a different way of living he has. - Extreme example i know Do you think that in swinging you can have an awesome chemistry with somebody perhaps because you dont know that much about them? " sorry meant to add if i went on to date Prince Harry.. if its just NSA sex then it makes no difference to me providing there is sexual chemistry and we get on well together in a social scenario (can have a joke n laugh with) | |||
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"If i liked love a man i could not care if a bin man or what ever thay did for job ..... as long as love is there ." awwwwww Jo xxx | |||
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"If i liked love a man i could not care if a bin man or what ever thay did for job ..... as long as love is there . Thats because you are a very accepting, tolerant lady - wish I could sometimes be more like that " All i know is money and things dont make you happy with out love and friendship its nothing. | |||
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"If i liked love a man i could not care if a bin man or what ever thay did for job ..... as long as love is there . Thats because you are a very accepting, tolerant lady - wish I could sometimes be more like that All i know is money and things dont make you happy with out love and friendship its nothing." No, I agree re money and material things that they dont bring happiness. For me intelligence, wit, similar interests and what I call "manliness" are important though xx | |||
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"So long as a partner understood that I work hard and that because I run my own business I bring work home with me. I've been out with people who are unemployed (which I found tricky being the sole bread winner) and also people earning £100K, none of them have been the right one for me; guess that just shows that money isn't the answer! " Absolutely understand your point about bringing work home, I frequently do. Also agree with you on the principle of "equality" in a relationship and that money is not that important | |||
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"So long as a partner understood that I work hard and that because I run my own business I bring work home with me. I've been out with people who are unemployed (which I found tricky being the sole bread winner) and also people earning £100K, none of them have been the right one for me; guess that just shows that money isn't the answer! " Totally agree with you about the money,i had it lost it and got a bit of it back again,but it doesn't bring a healthy relationship. | |||
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"I hate being bought things and would hate for people to think i was with a man for his money. I know i am not, I'm permanently aware of my financial status/circumstances. I don't even like having a guy buy me a drink. So for me its important to be equal. " I totally agree with this and it drives some men mad that I have these crazy rules. I am slowly learning to accept the odd drink and dinner as long as I balance it by paying for other things, or making a meal etc. | |||
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"see for me and my past history of 'relationships' ive always been aware of his rough income and i can never relax. I hate being bought things and would hate for people to think i was with a man for his money. I know i am not, and that other people's opinions shouldn't matter but it does bother me. I'm permanently aware of my financial status/circumstances. I don't even like having a guy buy me a drink. So for me its important to be equal. He could be the most incredible man in the world, but if i can't relax fully then it would never work long term for me. " I have no qualms about partners buying me stuff at all as I'm equally generous. When we've been abroad say and they've paid for the hotel/flights I've picked up everything else. However, I've been resentful dating someone who lived the life of Reilly at mine but I couldn't flush the toilet at theirs as they were on a water meter. Didn't have food in just had a pub lunch everyday, but never stopped grazing at mine. | |||
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"Ok that thread title probably doesn't make sense.. i'll explain. Was wondering earlier do people tend to select partners based on their lifestyles and jobs? As in have you known a lawyer to date a domestic assistant? or a Doctor to date a bin man? Obviously if the people click and get on that's the initial spark, but does a persons 'social status' effect your choice in partner? If you were a multi millionaire who works exceptionally hard would you date someone who had never worked? Im just putting it out there as i thought that like does attract like, so those with high earning jobs do tend to end up with someone with a similar work ethic and drive. " Had a good old think about this one. I think its more of a class thing rather than a job thing. Some people could never get over the fact that someone was doing a "lesser" job than themselves (not our belief btw) regardless of the actual job. On the flip side, there are some people who are attracted to certain professions such as uniformed roles, and this doesn't seem to apply. We have had more than our fair share of messages from people who think by sending a pic of themselves in an army uniform is enough and don't bother compiling a proper message. Unfortunately for them the male was in the forces for a few years so its not going to hold much sway with us. Reading this back we're not sure this is much of an answer lol x | |||
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" However, I've been resentful dating someone who lived the life of Reilly at mine but I couldn't flush the toilet at theirs as they were on a water meter. Didn't have food in just had a pub lunch everyday, but never stopped grazing at mine. " Yeah that would frustrate me too. For whatever reason i'm normally the one being 'less well off' compared to the guy ive dated at the time.. i hope i have never ever taken advantage of any of them as i too would feel that that's having the piss taken out of me and i was being exploited. I've seen friends being taken for a financial ride and seen the cracks its created in what was originally a loving relationship. | |||
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"as long as people have worked, have an intent to work or if their health allowed would work.... we would get on. if they don't, we won't Ah the good old Protestant work ethic, rooted in Calvinism and introduced into Britain by Puritan elements within Protestantism. " lovely. | |||
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"I dated a bin man many yrs ago...have to say couldnt give a flying......what people do for a living im not dating them.for thier job ....or thier money ive my own money thanks .Money doesnt and will never bring you health and happiness .Im an independent lady and always pay my way and always will.so to the op question......in my eyes no like for like doesnt do it for me....but we are all different be a damn boring world if we werent " Not being funny, but if you're paying your way you wouldn't mind paying somebody elses?!! You seem to take pride in being independent so would you be happy with someone dependent on you? Just asking for clarity. | |||
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"I found this thread VERY interesting. So interesting I read it twice. Are human beings really defined by their occupation ? If I change my job does that make me a better or worse catch? Horrible,shallow responses, every single one of them. Annnnnddddddd ..... Bin men ? Why are they always sited as the LOWEST of the low ? People always say ......... Oh i'd love him even if he was a bin man' like bin men are the dregs of society. The job may be dirty the man may have more desirable qualities than say some shifty, putrid, arsehole that hangs out on swingers sites all day. I need my bin men more than my bankers. " Why is it horrible and shallow? Some people have said they wouldn't date someone "higher" than them as they couldn't keep up. Does that make them horrible and shallow too? | |||
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"I do think that people do assume sometimes unintentionally what a person is like when they have asked the " what do you do for a living ? " Question ! What I find is that when I reply hairdresser its automatically assumed minimum wage slightly dim woman who can only talk about the weather and where people are going on holidays ! I never let on that I am also a qualified toolmaker with 10 yrs experience in that and I run my own quite successful business that has nothing to do with hairdressing ! I just do that job as its a job I absolutely love and studied hard for 3 yrs to achieve the very best I could ! So like for like ?? No thanks I like to explore the person not the persona that is portrayed by the job Good post tho quite refreshing to read xx " Ohh snap i talk about the weather too...funny how we get pigeon holed for the job we do...respect to the hairdresser i say....alot of peeps would be lost without my hair skills and i remind of that constantly | |||
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"I do think that people do assume sometimes unintentionally what a person is like when they have asked the " what do you do for a living ? " Question ! What I find is that when I reply hairdresser its automatically assumed minimum wage slightly dim woman who can only talk about the weather and where people are going on holidays ! I never let on that I am also a qualified toolmaker with 10 yrs experience in that and I run my own quite successful business that has nothing to do with hairdressing ! I just do that job as its a job I absolutely love and studied hard for 3 yrs to achieve the very best I could ! So like for like ?? No thanks I like to explore the person not the persona that is portrayed by the job Good post tho quite refreshing to read xx " People make assumptions about people all the time. I remember years ago being in an adventure playground with my daughter. I got talking with one of the other mums and she mentioned she didn't get much time to bring her daughter there because of the distance to work and she got tired in the evenings. I said I was lucky as I just worked at the nearby college. She said is love to work there it's ideal. If I give you my name and number, when you go in on Monday could you ask your cleaning manager if she could call me is there are any vacancies. I said I didn't know who the cleaning manager was as I was a lecturer. She was so embarrassed bless her, she couldn't get away fast enough. 25 years later career change but assumptions haven't. | |||
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"I have someone dependent on me my daughter so yes i pay for her but If i earned enough to pay for a partners share if they were struggling finacially then yes,but seeing as im only a poor single mum who works hard at my buisness and keeps my daughter and myself comfortable i pay my share." Think you missed my point a bit. My daughter and her boyfriend both live with me rent free. They pay for nothing and both work full time but I've told them to save their money for a deposit. My youngest is at uni and I'm supporting her also. If I had a partner that fell on hard times is help them too...that's not what this thread is about or what I meant. My question is, in your situation would you date someone who didn't work who would be dependent on you ie taking food out of your daughter's mouth? | |||
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"I do think that people do assume sometimes unintentionally what a person is like when they have asked the " what do you do for a living ? " Question ! What I find is that when I reply hairdresser its automatically assumed minimum wage slightly dim woman who can only talk about the weather and where people are going on holidays ! I never let on that I am also a qualified toolmaker with 10 yrs experience in that and I run my own quite successful business that has nothing to do with hairdressing ! I just do that job as its a job I absolutely love and studied hard for 3 yrs to achieve the very best I could ! So like for like ?? No thanks I like to explore the person not the persona that is portrayed by the job Good post tho quite refreshing to read xx Ohh snap i talk about the weather too...funny how we get pigeon holed for the job we do...respect to the hairdresser i say....alot of peeps would be lost without my hair skills and i remind of that constantly " I tend not to really talk about the weather these days ..... Living in wales its rain rain rain lol I say power to everyone ! No matter what you do for work as long as it make you happy then that's good ! Saying that hairdressers are the people who are happiest in their work as recent studies have shown | |||
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"I have someone dependent on me my daughter so yes i pay for her but If i earned enough to pay for a partners share if they were struggling finacially then yes,but seeing as im only a poor single mum who works hard at my buisness and keeps my daughter and myself comfortable i pay my share. Think you missed my point a bit. My daughter and her boyfriend both live with me rent free. They pay for nothing and both work full time but I've told them to save their money for a deposit. My youngest is at uni and I'm supporting her also. If I had a partner that fell on hard times is help them too...that's not what this thread is about or what I meant. My question is, in your situation would you date someone who didn't work who would be dependent on you ie taking food out of your daughter's mouth?" Yes I would ! In fact when I met mr newbie 8 yrs ago I was a single parent of 2 and he was out of work | |||
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"If im dating and the guy wasnt working ,yes id help him out,to a certain extent wouldnt let him bleed me.dry if thats what your implying as always my daughter comes first and the guy id be dating would know this and the men i have dated have always been considerate and caring i wouldnt be attracted to a self centered selfish man in the first place regardless whether he worked or not...i mean some guys have money and still depend on women thats not the type of man id go for." Thanks for answering. I wasn't talking partners, it's just the impression I've got from some post is they would be happy to be bled dry as long as they got a shag...or could be my cynical interpretation. | |||
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"I have someone dependent on me my daughter so yes i pay for her but If i earned enough to pay for a partners share if they were struggling finacially then yes,but seeing as im only a poor single mum who works hard at my buisness and keeps my daughter and myself comfortable i pay my share. Think you missed my point a bit. My daughter and her boyfriend both live with me rent free. They pay for nothing and both work full time but I've told them to save their money for a deposit. My youngest is at uni and I'm supporting her also. If I had a partner that fell on hard times is help them too...that's not what this thread is about or what I meant. My question is, in your situation would you date someone who didn't work who would be dependent on you ie taking food out of your daughter's mouth? Yes I would ! In fact when I met mr newbie 8 yrs ago I was a single parent of 2 and he was out of work " Power to you, wouldn't do it. Can't imagine my children and I getting up to go to work while some man I picked up sat at home...but we're all different. | |||
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" Annnnnddddddd ..... Bin men ? Why are they always sited as the LOWEST of the low ? People always say ......... Oh i'd love him even if he was a bin man' like bin men are the dregs of society. " Agrees Comments like that actually really annoy me and get my back up. But that's because my dad used to be a dustman and was for years. Am I ashamed of it, no! | |||
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"I have someone dependent on me my daughter so yes i pay for her but If i earned enough to pay for a partners share if they were struggling finacially then yes,but seeing as im only a poor single mum who works hard at my buisness and keeps my daughter and myself comfortable i pay my share. Think you missed my point a bit. My daughter and her boyfriend both live with me rent free. They pay for nothing and both work full time but I've told them to save their money for a deposit. My youngest is at uni and I'm supporting her also. If I had a partner that fell on hard times is help them too...that's not what this thread is about or what I meant. My question is, in your situation would you date someone who didn't work who would be dependent on you ie taking food out of your daughter's mouth? Yes I would ! In fact when I met mr newbie 8 yrs ago I was a single parent of 2 and he was out of work Power to you, wouldn't do it. Can't imagine my children and I getting up to go to work while some man I picked up sat at home...but we're all different. " Firstly I would like to point out even though he was out of work he never once sponged off me and I didn't have to take food out of my kids mouths to feed him ! Also I didn't get up with the kids and leave him just dossing around in my house he stayed at his looking for work and did bits and bobs for me too if I did ask him to ( which was not often ) He was not long out of work. He would never be the type of guy who is a kept man and let's face it the people on jeremy kyle give the unemployed a bad name not all who are out of work are the lazy Dossing round type ! | |||
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" Horrible,shallow responses, every single one of them. " I don't think they were, and mine certainly wasn't, it was very balanced and noted much more than just the money side of things, as did a few others. | |||
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"I found this thread VERY interesting. So interesting I read it twice. Are human beings really defined by their occupation ? If I change my job does that make me a better or worse catch? Horrible,shallow responses, every single one of them. Annnnnddddddd ..... Bin men ? Why are they always sited as the LOWEST of the low ? People always say ......... Oh i'd love him even if he was a bin man' like bin men are the dregs of society. The job may be dirty the man may have more desirable qualities than say some shifty, putrid, arsehole that hangs out on swingers sites all day. I need my bin men more than my bankers. Why is it horrible and shallow? Some people have said they wouldn't date someone "higher" than them as they couldn't keep up. Does that make them horrible and shallow too?" I said the responses were shallow. I didn't say the people were. I've read it all again. Twice again. I haven't changed my stance. | |||
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" Horrible,shallow responses, every single one of them. I don't think they were, and mine certainly wasn't, it was very balanced and noted much more than just the money side of things, as did a few others." Nah ... | |||
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"I meant it's used in general sassy. I wasnt' referring directly to your use of Bin Men as an example" i understand that, and i know what you mean. after you posted i kinda felt 'ah shit it did read as another bin man slating' it was cos he'd literally just finished work and i saw him i used his occupation as a job title x | |||
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"I have someone dependent on me my daughter so yes i pay for her but If i earned enough to pay for a partners share if they were struggling finacially then yes,but seeing as im only a poor single mum who works hard at my buisness and keeps my daughter and myself comfortable i pay my share. Think you missed my point a bit. My daughter and her boyfriend both live with me rent free. They pay for nothing and both work full time but I've told them to save their money for a deposit. My youngest is at uni and I'm supporting her also. If I had a partner that fell on hard times is help them too...that's not what this thread is about or what I meant. My question is, in your situation would you date someone who didn't work who would be dependent on you ie taking food out of your daughter's mouth? Yes I would ! In fact when I met mr newbie 8 yrs ago I was a single parent of 2 and he was out of work Power to you, wouldn't do it. Can't imagine my children and I getting up to go to work while some man I picked up sat at home...but we're all different. Firstly I would like to point out even though he was out of work he never once sponged off me and I didn't have to take food out of my kids mouths to feed him ! Also I didn't get up with the kids and leave him just dossing around in my house he stayed at his looking for work and did bits and bobs for me too if I did ask him to ( which was not often ) He was not long out of work. He would never be the type of guy who is a kept man and let's face it the people on jeremy kyle give the unemployed a bad name not all who are out of work are the lazy Dossing round type ! " No need to be defensive, I wasn't implying your oh was sponging off you. I was merely stating I wouldn't entertain someone who wasn't working, leaving him in bed whilst my kids and I set out for work. | |||
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