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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Seriously if you were put in a position of saving someone’s life (or aiding) would you know how? Would you know how to do basic life saving ?

It’s shocked me how many people don’t know basic life saving skills , to the point I’ve put my 2 teenagers on a short course, as I said to them If I was to go into cardiac arrest would they know what to do?.,, they both said put you into recovery position (which is wrong)

It’s so so important I feel to teach everyone basic life Saving skills, more important our young ones, who agrees?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely agreed.

I have first aid app on my phone and it's good to re read some basics occasionally as we tend to forget skills we dont use.

Fantastic idea about signing up your kids.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agreed.

I have first aid app on my phone and it's good to re read some basics occasionally as we tend to forget skills we dont use.

Fantastic idea about signing up your kids. "

There’s a brilliant app here if anyone wants it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agreed.

I have first aid app on my phone and it's good to re read some basics occasionally as we tend to forget skills we dont use.

Fantastic idea about signing up your kids.

There’s a brilliant app here if anyone wants it. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agreed.

I have first aid app on my phone and it's good to re read some basics occasionally as we tend to forget skills we dont use.

Fantastic idea about signing up your kids.

There’s a brilliant app here if anyone wants it. "

https://life-saver.org.uk/?fbclid=IwAR0OWmxuLhU9CgkfDt6su7VAEhJtiCaI9AISRbqFdT76xdqROj71CbGBJws

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By *entleman55Man
over a year ago

S’th West Mc/r

I think it should be compulsory in schools

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think it should be compulsory in schools

I agree. It is in most scandenavian Schools ( can’t spell sorry ) But they are always very high on most things.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

In I think Sweden ( top of my head) they have about 15% output of cardiac arrest whereas in the U.K. it’s about 9-10

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

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By *entleman55Man
over a year ago

S’th West Mc/r

I’m ex forces so I was trained in most aspects

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Definitely agreed.

I have first aid app on my phone and it's good to re read some basics occasionally as we tend to forget skills we dont use.

Fantastic idea about signing up your kids.

There’s a brilliant app here if anyone wants it.

https://life-saver.org.uk/?fbclid=IwAR0OWmxuLhU9CgkfDt6su7VAEhJtiCaI9AISRbqFdT76xdqROj71CbGBJws"

I will check it out. I use St John's ambulance one.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days."

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!"

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agreed.

I have first aid app on my phone and it's good to re read some basics occasionally as we tend to forget skills we dont use.

Fantastic idea about signing up your kids.

There’s a brilliant app here if anyone wants it.

https://life-saver.org.uk/?fbclid=IwAR0OWmxuLhU9CgkfDt6su7VAEhJtiCaI9AISRbqFdT76xdqROj71CbGBJws

I will check it out. I use St John's ambulance one."

We use this one on the nhs x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving "

I’m not sure it’s fair to have the general population be responsible for saving lives.

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By *urls and DressesWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near here

I know and confident in using it, but then I’m in healthcare so would be worrying if I didn’t.

My young children know basics, their dad is T1 diabetic and has been known to collapse unconscious. They were almost alone with him one evening when he last did it but thankfully I was there as I had a change of heart going out that evening. We now regularly role play what to do if it happens again and how to find help - using and finding amobile phone, going to neighbours or running into the village (about 3/4 miles away) and knocking on every door until someone answers (the village knows my children well, very close knit).

They know about the recovery position, to get a chocolate bar and insulin out (not administer!).

The night they were almost left alone with him scared the poop out of me!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving

I’m not sure it’s fair to have the general population be responsible for saving lives."

You can do basic life saving skills which I’ve got and I do think everyone should have! They are simple life saving skills that could save YOUR life. I know I want my kids to know them. Why wouldn’t you? I’ve level 2 and 3 but level 1 are pue basic skills!!

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

In healthcare also so am confident of knowing what to do if someone needed assistance.x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I know and confident in using it, but then I’m in healthcare so would be worrying if I didn’t.

They know about the recovery position, to get a chocolate bar and insulin out (not administer!).

The night they were almost left alone with him scared the poop out of me!"

That’s great your kids do! But many wouldn’t. Even know the difference!! My children didn’t know the difference between cardiac arrest or fainting or choking!! I was shocked.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In healthcare also so am confident of knowing what to do if someone needed assistance.x"

You are yes!! What about your children?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving

I’m not sure it’s fair to have the general population be responsible for saving lives.

That’s not really addressing the point of my comment, we shouldn’t be expecting the general public to take on the responsibility of saving lives.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

My point on here is , I know basic and intensive life saving. I feel it’s very important that everyone knows basic life saving skills. Not many do, and it makes the difference between saving someone’s life!! And I do believe kids should be taught thus as part of the curriculum

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving

I’m not sure it’s fair to have the general population be responsible for saving lives.

That’s not really addressing the point of my comment, we shouldn’t be expecting the general public to take on the responsibility of saving lives."

Are you messing, seriously? So just leave someone in cardiac arrest? Because you don’t know ??

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving

I’m not sure it’s fair to have the general population be responsible for saving lives.

That’s not really addressing the point of my comment, we shouldn’t be expecting the general public to take on the responsibility of saving lives.

Are you messing, seriously? So just leave someone in cardiac arrest? Because you don’t know ?? "

It’s a basic life skill , like swimming, it’s so easy to perform CPR. YET IT CAN SAVE A LIFE

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving

I’m not sure it’s fair to have the general population be responsible for saving lives.

That’s not really addressing the point of my comment, we shouldn’t be expecting the general public to take on the responsibility of saving lives."

Everyone should have a basic knowledge of first aid, including how to do chest compressions.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving

I’m not sure it’s fair to have the general population be responsible for saving lives.

That’s not really addressing the point of my comment, we shouldn’t be expecting the general public to take on the responsibility of saving lives.

Everyone should have a basic knowledge of first aid, including how to do chest compressions. "

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving

I’m not sure it’s fair to have the general population be responsible for saving lives.

That’s not really addressing the point of my comment, we shouldn’t be expecting the general public to take on the responsibility of saving lives."

Tell me exactly what’s your point??

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving

I’m not sure it’s fair to have the general population be responsible for saving lives.

That’s not really addressing the point of my comment, we shouldn’t be expecting the general public to take on the responsibility of saving lives."

So say for instance you went into cardiac arrest. Who’s responsible for saving your life? A, me who can perform CPR, and level 3 life saving? Or should I wait for a dr? And then you’d be dead ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving

I’m not sure it’s fair to have the general population be responsible for saving lives.

That’s not really addressing the point of my comment, we shouldn’t be expecting the general public to take on the responsibility of saving lives.

So say for instance you went into cardiac arrest. Who’s responsible for saving your life? A, me who can perform CPR, and level 3 life saving? Or should I wait for a dr? And then you’d be dead ?"

Or even my son who’s 15!! Who’s done basic life saving?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had a fair whack of various training so I think I'd do pretty well, the question is more whether I'd have the kit available to do what I had to.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

"I've had a fair whack of various training so I think I'd do pretty well, the question is more whether I'd have the kit available to do what I had to."

Sometimes common sense and basic knowledge is all you need.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've had a fair whack of various training so I think I'd do pretty well, the question is more whether I'd have the kit available to do what I had to.

Sometimes common sense and basic knowledge is all you need.x"

One out of two ain't bad

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

I could competently help someone and myself if needed. My child is too small do anything other than call an ambulance with the right information

Surely first aid should be something to be taught compulsory with secondary school pupils,

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

Yes I do annual life support and defib training in work. I'd also like to add it is good for people to know the heimlich manoeuvre and how to administer an epipen.

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By *olidOak85Couple
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Absolutely agree. I've literally just done it for work and was thinking throughout that I need to get my kids educated in basic First Aid. Great skill to have, you just never know when you're going to need it unfortunately

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By *uttercup and WestleyCouple
over a year ago

Merseyside

I think that schools should educate children about a lot more health issues too. Definitely think everyone should know BLS.

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

I completely a 3 day St John's Ambulance first aid course last yr

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

I’ve done the first aid at work course for a long time, to emphasise how useful it is I’ve probably used the skills more on my family over the years than on work colleagues.

Lack of equipment doesn’t really come into it - you can still know the right thing to do with no equipment at all. Just doing the right thing (or avoiding the wrong thing) is always better than nothing

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

I've done all kinds of first aid training since I was 14.

Insisted that D did one before we had kids and when they are old enough they will be on one aswell.

I agree with you, absolutely should be part of the basic school curriculum, I really don't understand why it isn't!

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Definitely agree. We should teach everyone how to dial 999 these days.

No not 999. That’s emergency service,, you have an 6 min call for cardiac arrest,, in that time you can do a difference!!!

Sorry I obviously mean ring 999 but that can take 6-9 mins. In that time u can be doing basic life saving

I’m not sure it’s fair to have the general population be responsible for saving lives.

That’s not really addressing the point of my comment, we shouldn’t be expecting the general public to take on the responsibility of saving lives."

Trust me, if a family member of yours went into cardiac arrest, you would not want to just sit there and wait for the ambulance. Of course the general public are not responsible for saving lives but someone can only survive for a matter of minutes without oxygen to the brain. CPR keeps oxygen circulating to the brain when your heart has stopped pumping blood around your body so it can keep someone alive until the professionals arrive. You wouldn't be responsible for them dying if you didn't do it and they died but if it's your friend or family, wouldn't you want to know how to give them the best chance?

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

I'd add to that, that since training we have bitb had cause to use it more than once.

I've done cpr twice and D has prevented an old lady and a child choking in a restaurant at different times.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I don’t think most people would be confident enough to either assess cardiac arrest is happening or start CPR. Unless you are trained you would likely panic.

What all the sites forget to tell you is to sing Nelly the Elephant , no one can count 100-120 beats a minute but everyone bows the song...personally I would still pause and inflate them , risk of catching COVID-19 wouldn’t make the slightest difference if I was doing CPR and waiting for an ambulance

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By *hat BlokeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

I think universal first aid and life saving should be a compulsory part or school education (possibly PE). There are many situations where life saving is not just helping those that have lost conscious person, but there is no doubt (on the whole) any action is better than none.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don’t think most people would be confident enough to either assess cardiac arrest is happening or start CPR. Unless you are trained you would likely panic.

They are advising against mouth to mouth , but that would be at your own risk also. Me personally would give mouth to mouth (out of work) that’s my own judgement

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think universal first aid and life saving should be a compulsory part or school education (possibly PE). There are many situations where life saving is not just helping those that have lost conscious person, but there is no doubt (on the whole) any action is better than none."

I totally agree basic life support should be taught as it is an most north European schools.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don’t think most people would be confident enough to either assess cardiac arrest is happening or start CPR. Unless you are trained you would likely panic.

Another song they say is queens “ another one bites the dust” but is sing that one in my head

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By *ily WhiteWoman
over a year ago

I'm first aid and defib trained. I have dealt with someone having a heart attack, although thankfully it was mild and he didn't stop breathing...good job seeing as the ambulance took 27 minutes to get to us

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

Just doing compressions could save someone’s life, kick start their heart again, before paramedics get there. Without it the individual would die.

First aid is a basic skill everyone should know, it really could make a difference whether someone lives or dies waiting for paramedics. My lad was taught in year 6 and they have annual refreshers.

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

I would as i've been trained in it and had a recent refresher.

I've done CPR on someone before. No time to worry if you're fracturing a rib or sternum. You just want to keep the person alive.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just doing compressions could save someone’s life, kick start their heart again, before paramedics get there. Without it the individual would die.

First aid is a basic skill everyone should know, it really could make a difference whether someone lives or dies waiting for paramedics. My lad was taught in year 6 and they have annual refreshers. "

It’s a simple life saving skill, which can save someone’s life while waiting for paramedics. My two children are doing a simple 3 hr course.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would as i've been trained in it and had a recent refresher.

I've done CPR on someone before. No time to worry if you're fracturing a rib or sternum. You just want to keep the person alive."

Definitely, you probably will brake a rib, but to get that heart going it’s worth it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm first aid and defib trained. I have dealt with someone having a heart attack, although thankfully it was mild and he didn't stop breathing...good job seeing as the ambulance took 27 minutes to get to us

That’s so bad! Usually if it’s a heart attack and patient isn’t breathing it’s under 6 mins (I think)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I’m first aid trained, know how to use a defibrillator and I also did my Bronze Medallion many years ago for life saving in water. The latter aim considering updating.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree it really should be part of the curriculum....Learning the basics should be standard.

Either at School or a requirement before taking a driving test.

I have been refreshing my first aid every 3 years for the past 20 and I have used it in and out of work, not had to use it often but has been invaluable when I've needed it

Had to do mouth to mouth on an 18m old girl who went unresponsive after a febrile convulsion, she was fine.

And did CPR on a guy after he collapsed outside our house and the ambulance was an hour away, it is exhausting but you really don't think about it until after. Unfortunately he a suffered massive heart attack there was no coming back from, I was devastated

But yeah, you just never know when you are going to need it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yes I’m first aid trained, know how to use a defibrillator and I also did my Bronze Medallion many years ago for life saving in water. The latter aim considering updating."

Defibrillator is self explanatory now, it’s mainly CPR chest compressions people need to learn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah I’m first aid trained. I know the basics and would do what I could!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I agree it really should be part of the curriculum....Learning the basics should be standard.

Either at School or a requirement before taking a driving test.

I have been refreshing my first aid every 3 years for the past 20 and I have used it in and out of work, not had to use it often but has been invaluable when I've needed it

Had to do mouth to mouth on an 18m old girl who went unresponsive after a febrile convulsion, she was fine.

But yeah, you just never know when you are going to need it "

Omg I’ve never had to use my training yet, but I’d think it’s an automatic response? I’m so passionate for children to learn this basic life skill. I’m in talks at the minute with someone in education who’s said this should be compulsory as part of the curriculum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes I’m first aid trained, know how to use a defibrillator and I also did my Bronze Medallion many years ago for life saving in water. The latter aim considering updating.

Defibrillator is self explanatory now, it’s mainly CPR chest compressions people need to learn.

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This is true however CPR was all part of my first aid training. I agree CPR is most important. That said many people wouldn’t know a defib is self-explanatory.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yeah I’m first aid trained. I know the basics and would do what I could!"

Brilliant, do you think children should be taught?

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By *ily WhiteWoman
over a year ago

Yes, they got lost, even though it was a massive warehouse and I'd given them the postcode

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had to perform 1st aid to a work colleague who collapsed,no response, started having seizures and struggling to breath, took the ambulance 95 minutes to get there, a very stressful wait!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yes I’m first aid trained, know how to use a defibrillator and I also did my Bronze Medallion many years ago for life saving in water. The latter aim considering updating.

Defibrillator is self explanatory now, it’s mainly CPR chest compressions people need to learn.

This is true however CPR was all part of my first aid training. I agree CPR is most important. That said many people wouldn’t know a defib is self-explanatory. "

Totally agree. Again this needs to be taught.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes I’m first aid trained, know how to use a defibrillator and I also did my Bronze Medallion many years ago for life saving in water. The latter aim considering updating.

Defibrillator is self explanatory now, it’s mainly CPR chest compressions people need to learn.

This is true however CPR was all part of my first aid training. I agree CPR is most important. That said many people wouldn’t know a defib is self-explanatory.

Totally agree. Again this needs to be taught. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yes, they got lost, even though it was a massive warehouse and I'd given them the postcode

Well that’s absolutely awful. As most people wouldn’t survive from cardiac arrest within 7 mins of emergency response and first aid ,, he/she was lucky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree it really should be part of the curriculum....Learning the basics should be standard.

Either at School or a requirement before taking a driving test.

I have been refreshing my first aid every 3 years for the past 20 and I have used it in and out of work, not had to use it often but has been invaluable when I've needed it

Had to do mouth to mouth on an 18m old girl who went unresponsive after a febrile convulsion, she was fine.

But yeah, you just never know when you are going to need it

This is incredible! I wish you all the luck in the world with it! Please keep me updated on the progress and if there is anything I can do to help then please feel free to contact me.

Great to read of a proactive approach

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The defib training is great and should be in schools and all work places. There are defibs dotted all around the city and most people have no idea how to use them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I agree it really should be part of the curriculum....Learning the basics should be standard.

Either at School or a requirement before taking a driving test.

I have been refreshing my first aid every 3 years for the past 20 and I have used it in and out of work, not had to use it often but has been invaluable when I've needed it

Had to do mouth to mouth on an 18m old girl who went unresponsive after a febrile convulsion, she was fine.

But yeah, you just never know when you are going to need it

This is incredible! I wish you all the luck in the world with it! Please keep me updated on the progress and if there is anything I can do to help then please feel free to contact me.

Great to read of a proactive approach

I will do, it’s getting pushed through at the minute but unfortunately won’t be until 2022. So sad really. I’ve put my 2 kids age 14,16 on little private courses (free). But makes me feel better that they have this life skill, not just cpr , choking also.

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over a year ago

"The defib training is great and should be in schools and all work places. There are defibs dotted all around the city and most people have no idea how to use them."

You don’t need training for a defrib! It’s self explanatory. It’s first aid cpr which is critical

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"I agree it really should be part of the curriculum....Learning the basics should be standard.

Either at School or a requirement before taking a driving test.

I have been refreshing my first aid every 3 years for the past 20 and I have used it in and out of work, not had to use it often but has been invaluable when I've needed it

Had to do mouth to mouth on an 18m old girl who went unresponsive after a febrile convulsion, she was fine.

But yeah, you just never know when you are going to need it

This is incredible! I wish you all the luck in the world with it! Please keep me updated on the progress and if there is anything I can do to help then please feel free to contact me.

Great to read of a proactive approach

It’s just such an easy life saving skill to learn yet can save your life or someone else’s. Everyone now days are so ignorant, I for one am ensuring my kids can help someone, maybe even me in future if the moment arose.

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