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"Yes if I had a driveway or designated parking space I could charge it at. " Same here, that's the limitation really, they are far more efficient | |||
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"Believe it or not. Electric cars are the only ones ever denounced by Amnesty International " Really,, what for? | |||
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"No, too quiet I like vrummmmmm Jo x " I’d keep my vvvruum too | |||
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"No, the environmental claims are pretty much nonsense when you take into account the precious metals etc involved in the manufacture of the batteries etc, and the range, charging speed, charging network, purchase price etc just isn't where it needs to be for mass uptake. The risk to pedestrians from not hearing the quiet motors coming is another issue. I think combustion engines running on synthetic fuel would be a better road to go down long-term. Now F1 teams etc are starting to look at synthetic fuels I really don't think it will be long before we get something Carbon neutral and sustainable." The hydrogen engine.. been around for years. Water vapour being the bi product. | |||
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"No, the environmental claims are pretty much nonsense when you take into account the precious metals etc involved in the manufacture of the batteries etc, and the range, charging speed, charging network, purchase price etc just isn't where it needs to be for mass uptake. The risk to pedestrians from not hearing the quiet motors coming is another issue. I think combustion engines running on synthetic fuel would be a better road to go down long-term. Now F1 teams etc are starting to look at synthetic fuels I really don't think it will be long before we get something Carbon neutral and sustainable." Given how many times a battery can be reused and the fact that the precious metals in them can be 100% recycled, they are better for the environment than using conventional fuels. Complaining about the quietness of them is just silly. In the UK, the cars have to by law make enough sound. If they don't they have to be fitted with speakers to make an audible humm. If this is too quite the law could be changed and the volume upped. Car charge times aren't that bad. I think the Tesla can do about 200 miles after a 30min charge. Yep, the charging network isn't that great yet, but it's actually not that bad. Local driving I'd be fine, but if I were to do lots of long distances, I'd look into hybrid system. Synthetics 'might' be better, but that will be a long way off yet, so for me if I were to replace my car, I'd go electric or hybrid over conventional fuel. | |||
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"Think the batteries are made from cobalt. This is mined in the democratic republic of Conga by children who earn pennies and many die. Someone correct me if I'm wrong " Yes you are correct, and I think most of the cobalt mining in DRC is controlled by the Chinese. | |||
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"Loves scalectrix " Actually a fuel powered scalectrix would be amazing! | |||
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"Wouldn't go full electric yet, need more charging points. Anyone have a hybrid and know how much it will save on petrol? Like how much they used to spend Vs what they spend now. I haven't researched it thoroughly, but seen random claims on the net. " My hybrid costs around half what my previous petrol car cost to run....aiming for full electric next time. | |||
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"Nope. I travel 100km each way for work. When had a 1.4 Hyundai matrix petrol it was €20 a day over 6 days. So in two weeks I'd make 10 journeys to work. So was costing me €120+ Now have a 08 auris and in two weeks I pay 50€ diesel. She's a miser Have thought of a hybrid/petrol but even the guy in the garage said not to bother." I used to do a similar commute to Cambridge , 192 miles round trip per day , 5 days a week , I had a modern diesel 2.0 engine with computer controlled accelerator to maximise fuel , £75 a week , bargain | |||
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"Nope. I travel 100km each way for work. When had a 1.4 Hyundai matrix petrol it was €20 a day over 6 days. So in two weeks I'd make 10 journeys to work. So was costing me €120+ Now have a 08 auris and in two weeks I pay 50€ diesel. She's a miser Have thought of a hybrid/petrol but even the guy in the garage said not to bother. I used to do a similar commute to Cambridge , 192 miles round trip per day , 5 days a week , I had a modern diesel 2.0 engine with computer controlled accelerator to maximise fuel , £75 a week , bargain " omg what a carbon footprint | |||
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" Recharging the batteries from the electric grid is using energy mostly from fossil fuels anyway. " Over 20% is from renewable. 1st quarter 2020 is way over 40%. ALL of a fossil fuel cars power comes from fossil fuel. I'd prefer some reduction rather than none personally. | |||
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"No. They aren't cost efficient without massive government subsidies. The autonomy is lackluster. The mining of the earth minerals required for the batteries has devastating environmental impact. Recharging the batteries from the electric grid is using energy mostly from fossil fuels anyway. The batteries themselves are expensive to replace. Lastly no engine sound " guess you haven't heard of renewable energy ? It's quite a thing these days in Britain anyway | |||
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"Wouldn't go full electric yet, need more charging points. Anyone have a hybrid and know how much it will save on petrol? Like how much they used to spend Vs what they spend now. I haven't researched it thoroughly, but seen random claims on the net. " I have a prius and get a good 50-55 mpg out of mine.. and mine is almost 9 yrs old now! like i said my plan had changed since i originally was going to get a model 3.... but like i said things changed.... the most realistic thing for me is probably that i will wait for the model y to come over here and then decide... the why is a slightly bigger version of the 3, and from everything i have read people love them and if its only going to be 2-3000 pounds difference i'll take the bigger one! | |||
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"Wouldn't go full electric yet, need more charging points. Anyone have a hybrid and know how much it will save on petrol? Like how much they used to spend Vs what they spend now. I haven't researched it thoroughly, but seen random claims on the net. I have a prius and get a good 50-55 mpg out of mine.. and mine is almost 9 yrs old now! like i said my plan had changed since i originally was going to get a model 3.... but like i said things changed.... the most realistic thing for me is probably that i will wait for the model y to come over here and then decide... the why is a slightly bigger version of the 3, and from everything i have read people love them and if its only going to be 2-3000 pounds difference i'll take the bigger one!" The bugs have been worked out of the 3, the paint issues etc. The Y is ok, Prefer the X but huge price difference. | |||
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"you do realise they set a fire rather quickly and go up rather nasty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F1XiXvklvo parked all night jump to 4.00 mins for this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNso0sgqxjM an electric scooter sets a fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqwh4yUyJuE" Not true, pretty sure ice cars go up just a quick | |||
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"Wouldn't go full electric yet, need more charging points. Anyone have a hybrid and know how much it will save on petrol? Like how much they used to spend Vs what they spend now. I haven't researched it thoroughly, but seen random claims on the net. I have a prius and get a good 50-55 mpg out of mine.. and mine is almost 9 yrs old now! like i said my plan had changed since i originally was going to get a model 3.... but like i said things changed.... the most realistic thing for me is probably that i will wait for the model y to come over here and then decide... the why is a slightly bigger version of the 3, and from everything i have read people love them and if its only going to be 2-3000 pounds difference i'll take the bigger one!" Cheers for that, definitely more than what I'm doing now. I do like Tesla's, bit out of my price range at the minute but maybe in a couple of years. The y is great looking car, I can see the reasoning for waiting. Especially as you're quite a tall chap Fabio | |||
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"you do realise they set a fire rather quickly and go up rather nasty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F1XiXvklvo parked all night jump to 4.00 mins for this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNso0sgqxjM an electric scooter sets a fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqwh4yUyJuE" The first video is not an electric car. It's an electrical fault, but it was not an electric car, it was a diesel. | |||
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"Bloke down the road had a Tesla. It does NOT do the quoted mileage on a full charge, normally 25% less. Fast charging will shorten the life of the battery. " Yeah and Tesla cars aren’t as well built as people think either. They’ve gotten better, but still have problems with panel gaps and things like that. | |||
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"I'd have a Delorean that runs on plutonium, but it must be the special edition with the flux capacitor." I used to have one of those. Im going to get another one, some time in the future. | |||
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"Nope. I travel 100km each way for work. When had a 1.4 Hyundai matrix petrol it was €20 a day over 6 days. So in two weeks I'd make 10 journeys to work. So was costing me €120+ Now have a 08 auris and in two weeks I pay 50€ diesel. She's a miser Have thought of a hybrid/petrol but even the guy in the garage said not to bother." Also should have said charge points in Ireland are few and far between. The town I work in, the nearest charge point is about 1.5 km from the office I'd have to park car at charge point and get à lift to work. | |||
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"Think the batteries are made from cobalt. This is mined in the democratic republic of Conga by children who earn pennies and many die. Someone correct me if I'm wrong " There was a fair amount of cobalt in the original electric batteries... now the amount used is minuscule and again it is the likes of Tesla leading those advances | |||
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"Yes a tesla p100DL with no back seats Is a monster you be smokeing 600-800hp mustangs and corvettes all day long on the street " Or until you run the battery out. Which wouldn't be long! | |||
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"All the people slagging off Tesla how many of you actually own one? I’ve had my X a year now and not one single issue. I have free charging for the life of the car. Whereas as before with my RR I had issue after issue. Charging in this country isn’t an issue, yes there are a few areas where there aren’t SuC but there are always other chargers you can use. I’m driving round Europe soon, bouncing from charger to charger so my only cost will be accommodation. My car has a range of 329 miles, and just like an ICE that’s dependant on how you drive. So really not just an electric car thing. " I dont but I did have a 48 hour test drive as I was intrigued. Reasons I didn't but one over either of my 2 current cars Not very well put together, overall build quality felt poor. Poor handling Completely soulless Not very nice to look at It was a bit faster than both of my cars and I get less miles out of my ICE than I would from a Tesla but those 2 points alone are minor. Smiles per gallon is where it's at for me and the Tesla just doesn't make me smile. If one day I have no choice but to buy electric then I may well end up with a Tesla | |||
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"All the people slagging off Tesla how many of you actually own one? I’ve had my X a year now and not one single issue. I have free charging for the life of the car. Whereas as before with my RR I had issue after issue. Charging in this country isn’t an issue, yes there are a few areas where there aren’t SuC but there are always other chargers you can use. I’m driving round Europe soon, bouncing from charger to charger so my only cost will be accommodation. My car has a range of 329 miles, and just like an ICE that’s dependant on how you drive. So really not just an electric car thing. I dont but I did have a 48 hour test drive as I was intrigued. Reasons I didn't but one over either of my 2 current cars Not very well put together, overall build quality felt poor. Poor handling Completely soulless Not very nice to look at It was a bit faster than both of my cars and I get less miles out of my ICE than I would from a Tesla but those 2 points alone are minor. Smiles per gallon is where it's at for me and the Tesla just doesn't make me smile. If one day I have no choice but to buy electric then I may well end up with a Tesla" I’ve had 11 RR and my MX is my first electric car. And also my first car that’s had zero issues in its first year. Ok I paid nearly 100k for it so you expect no issues. However my range rovers all around same price and constant issues. Can say as a year long owner that I can’t agree that are badly put together. I’ve had no issues. But options are just that and as long as you enjoy what your driving it’s all good. I just love the fact I’m faster than most of you lol. | |||
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"Many people are probably unaware, but many of the first cars were electric or steam in the US, an example being the Detroit Electric, with a guaranteed range of 80 miles, with one example able to do more than 200 miles on one charge. It could only do 20mph however, but the quality of roads back then, you probably wouldn’t want to go any faster. Today, electric cars have come on a long way, not so much in range, but in performance. The latest model of Nissan Leaf would leave many cars for dead up to 40mph, largely because it doesn’t have gears, and delivers all of its power from 0rpm. The realistic range is around 140 miles, which for most people would last a few days before needing to be charged. They are very quiet and smooth to drive, which is just one of the reasons why I am considering one soon, along with free road tax (although that won’t last forever), and I can charge it up at work for free. The downside is the initial expense, but then servicing costs and repair costs should be less as there’s less to go wrong, but question marks remain over battery longevity and the cost of replacing them after they begin to deteriorate. It’s still not entirely a green vehicle either, because the emissions are just offloaded to the original source of fuel which makes the electricity to begin with. Also the electrical capacity of our country wouldn’t be able to cope if we all decided to buy electric cars tomorrow. They use many kilowatts to charge up, so our national grid needs some serious upgrading if it is to cope in the coming years. Anyway, back to the question, would you buy an electric car?" It might be none optional in my lifetime so I intend to make the most of rumbling, screaming, throbbing, noisy superbikes and cars before the choice is removed. | |||
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"It might be none optional in my lifetime so I intend to make the most of rumbling, screaming, throbbing, noisy superbikes and cars before the choice is removed." Lol i dont see that happening but i would imagine it might get more difficult or expensive to try and fuel your V8 fire breather the same way classics owners today have issues with cars designed for leaded petrol or 6v electrical systems. The market will still exist to cater to classics owners but you might not be able to buy a new one in the same way you cant go out and buy an MG TF today. In-fact i would imagine EV drive trains will bring a new lease of life to some unreliable or less used classics i have seen some fascinating conversions recently including one built by Aston Martin for the DB5 and if they keep more classics on the road im all for it. The future is coming but the past never dies. | |||
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