FabSwingers.com forum: Decent photographs.

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Is it really pervy to offer a photography session simply because you enjoy doing it yourself? Some of the photos on here are awful, I have a skill I would love to share for free as long as location, time etc works.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s a bit shitty when you word it like that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can try, I can’t see why some people wouldn’t take you up on it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did you get someone else to take your profile pic then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We would be up for it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can offer but be prepared to show off some of your work. There's plenty of threads with "photographers" offering to take pictures for "nothing in return"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would you take some of me?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have heard alot of scary stories about this.

Why would you trust a stranger to take naked pictures? Surely open to abuse.

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By *elle xWoman
over a year ago

Doire Theas

Usually when someone asks me this I look at their own pictures and think are ya sure your a photographer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did you get someone else to take your profile pic then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did you get someone else to take your profile pic then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't trust a sausage to take any pics of me on here. They would probably end up being shared and picked to pieces. I think that's your problem Op, you can't trust anyone on here.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Usually when someone asks me this I look at their own pictures and think are ya sure your a photographer

I was thinking this.

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By *ady23Woman
over a year ago

Coventry

I think lots of people like photo shoots but they are costly when done properly so it's a put off cost wise. We have seen good and bad pics on the site

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

That's why you have lovely pictures that we can see and apreciate your artist work as a photographer , lovely portfolio yours .

But NO THANKS , PASS.

I quite like my awful photos

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

People try their best and have fun trying. I would say mine are better than yours OP and i just use my little phone and timer.

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By *ustyshowoffCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

I can only see two photos on your profile but neither of them are any better than those “awful”

ones you mention.

Presumably you have others that showcase your “skill” more appropriately?

Mark

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

Most of the ones who say they are photographers rarely have a decent portfolio. Or in one case were pictures taken from the internet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest I’d love to go out and take pictures of people. Simply because I love playing with pictures. I’ve done a bit and really enjoy it. Mine mostly taken on my phone with timer, but I do when I have time like getting the camera out. Cost is a big barrier to getting proper pics done but can be well worth it, you see yourself differently.

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By *viatrixWoman
over a year ago

Redhill

Are your own photos part of your portfolio, OP?

Mine are amazing.

I love them.

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By *ustyshowoffCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"To be honest I’d love to go out and take pictures of people. Simply because I love playing with pictures. I’ve done a bit and really enjoy it. Mine mostly taken on my phone with timer, but I do when I have time like getting the camera out. Cost is a big barrier to getting proper pics done but can be well worth it, you see yourself differently."

We love your pics xx

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By *ary1001xMan
over a year ago

Hillsborough

The question about this or indeed with any photographer is who owns the images and what's to stop them being published or even sold by the photographer. Why would anyone let some stranger take pics and leave themselves open.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I actually enjoy taking my pics myself. I can let loose my creativity l.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

You have more pictures on your profile than those who contact us. You've got a flair for photography, I enjoy looking through yours as they're so well taken.

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

We love your pics xx"

Thank you

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

"I actually enjoy taking my pics myself. I can let loose my creativity l."

Can i check ?

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

You have more pictures on your profile than those who contact us. You've got a flair for photography, I enjoy looking through yours as they're so well taken. "

I wonder what camera he uses

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I actually enjoy taking my pics myself. I can let loose my creativity l.

Can i check ?

Please do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I won a competition to do a boudoir photos hoot at a legitimate studio at the end of last year, having had a tough year it was certainly an empowering experience.

A full set of photographs from the shoot on a USB was £600.

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By *ustyshowoffCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"I actually enjoy taking my pics myself. I can let loose my creativity l."

Love your pics

June xx

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By *r Potato HeadMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Think I need someone with "skill" to take my pics....

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

"I actually enjoy taking my pics myself. I can let loose my creativity l.

Can i check ?

Please do

Love them , actually i had add you to my hot list few months ago

, i think you will like mine also , there's similarities

. Not asking you to check my pictures just sugesting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I won a competition to do a boudoir photos hoot at a legitimate studio at the end of last year, having had a tough year it was certainly an empowering experience.

A full set of photographs from the shoot on a USB was £600.

It is i did one ages ago to try and build confidence. My instructions were no editing of my body shape..it was important to see me as I am. He did a really good job. It was great but so expensive for the prints. I love doing my own because I don’t feel judged or self conscious it’s me and...me

Having a handful of pics you can look back on and go wow!! Is a nice empowering feeling.

And so if I can help others achieve the same I would. Why not? Pass it forward!!

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

"Think I need someone with "skill" to take my pics....

I have the skills , ijust don't have the camera

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have more pictures on your profile than those who contact us. You've got a flair for photography, I enjoy looking through yours as they're so well taken. "

Thank you! It’s simply something I enjoy playing with...trying to find new inspiration!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I actually enjoy taking my pics myself. I can let loose my creativity l.

Can i check ?

Please do

Love them , actually i had add you to my hot list few months ago

, i think you will like mine also , there's similarities

. Not asking you to check my pictures just sugesting

Yours are beautiful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I actually enjoy taking my pics myself. I can let loose my creativity l.

Love your pics

June xx"

Thank you, yours too

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By *ecretlivesCouple
over a year ago

FABWatch HQ

"The question about this or indeed with any photographer is who owns the images and what's to stop them being published or even sold by the photographer. Why would anyone let some stranger take pics and leave themselves open."

Creativity aside, this is the core of the problem. Without a prexisting contract, pretty much it is the person who presses the button who owns it. The subject is just a model. Yep you can argue the toss but unless money changes hands around a rock solid contract you are going nowhere. If you have done this already your only hope is recent laws around revenge porn, but if you had no relationship, you cant use it. Our advice - don't go there.

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

I won a competition to do a boudoir photos hoot at a legitimate studio at the end of last year, having had a tough year it was certainly an empowering experience.

A full set of photographs from the shoot on a USB was £600.

Having a handful of pics you can look back on and go wow!! Is a nice empowering feeling.

And so if I can help others achieve the same I would. Why not? Pass it forward!!"

£600

Mine all free

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some of the photos on here are awful, I have a skill I would love to share for free as long as location, time etc works."

Great start! Slagging off other peoples work. Clearly, you've never spent even 5 minutes in sales...

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

"I actually enjoy taking my pics myself. I can let loose my creativity l.

Can i check ?

Please do

Love them , actually i had add you to my hot list few months ago

, i think you will like mine also , there's similarities

. Not asking you to check my pictures just sugesting

Yours are beautiful

Thank you

, i must say yours also

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By *r Potato HeadMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Think I need someone with "skill" to take my pics....

I have the skills , ijust don't have the camera

You do have some nice pics. I like a more arty pic than the full on, "here's what I had for breakfast" pics.

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By *r Potato HeadMan
over a year ago

Manchester

You've some interesting locations for your pics as well.

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

I wouldn't trust a sausage to take any pics of me on here. They would probably end up being shared and picked to pieces. I think that's your problem Op, you can't trust anyone on here."

I’d love some professional photos but as Dana says .. I really wouldn’t trust someone I didn’t know from here

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

I wouldn't trust a sausage to take any pics of me on here. They would probably end up being shared and picked to pieces. I think that's your problem Op, you can't trust anyone on here.

I’d love some professional photos but as Dana says .. I really wouldn’t trust someone I didn’t know from here"

You can trust me i just don't have camera

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mostly correct. As a working professional, let me help everybody out, as these issues are often misunderstood.

By default, copyright belongs to the photographer, not the model. The photographer is defined as the person who pressed the button. By way of legally binding contract, this copyright can be transferred to another party (e.g., the model or a business) before or after.

Ownership of copyright does not grant usage rights. So, you may own the copyright to the photo, but you don't automatically own the right to publish or reuse the image anywhere. That is negotiable in the model or property release form. Again, this is legally binding, and agreed between parties. While the model or business may have copies of the image, their own use of said image is also limited to what was agreed. Unless otherwise agreed, you have no rights to duplicate the image.

Money is not the aggregator of copyright or usage rights. Unless otherwise negotiated, they are set to defaults in law.

And on to photography in general....

Beware of a "photographer" who bigs up the equipment they use as a major selling point. Depending on what you want to shoot, and the final usage, a high quality smartphone can be sufficient. A key differentiator is lighting, and control of lighting. If you are putting yourself out there as a photographer, I expect you already have full mastery of any equipment used. People skills are paramount, then your photographic skills.

I wouldn't expect to see a portfolio here, but I would expect to see samples.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haha. I am sort of photography lover myself. Got decent kit and some basic editing skills. I do quite well taking pics of bugs, flowers and selfies, but suck big time when taking pics for anyone else. Ummm... Not the literal sucking way ofc...

Bunny

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

"Haha. I am sort of photography lover myself. Got decent kit and some basic editing skills. I do quite well taking pics of bugs, flowers and selfies, but suck big time when taking pics for anyone else. Ummm... Not the literal sucking way ofc...

Bunny"

If is artist and free i'm in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A full set of photographs from the shoot on a USB was £600.

Did you get this as your "prize" or were you given one or two images with a follow on offer of £600 for the lot?

There is a popular, suspect sales tactic used by lots of studios where the lure customers in for a free or very low cost photo shoot, and then upset a more expensive package.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I won a competition to do a boudoir photos hoot at a legitimate studio at the end of last year, having had a tough year it was certainly an empowering experience.

A full set of photographs from the shoot on a USB was £600.

Having a handful of pics you can look back on and go wow!! Is a nice empowering feeling.

And so if I can help others achieve the same I would. Why not? Pass it forward!!

£600

Mine all free

This was a professional studio, with 3 rooms set up for having photographs taken in plus you got a makeover prior to the shoot too. I can understand why they have to charge those prices, it's just unfortunate it's out of the price range of most people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A full set of photographs from the shoot on a USB was £600.

Did you get this as your "prize" or were you given one or two images with a follow on offer of £600 for the lot?

There is a popular, suspect sales tactic used by lots of studios where the lure customers in for a free or very low cost photo shoot, and then upset a more expensive package."

I got one free photo... Like I said in a post above there were 3 rooms set up for taking photographs in and it was no expense spared plus the prize included a makeover. I knew going in to it, the photographs would be the money maker but I happy just to experience it and get my freebie.

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

I wouldn't trust a sausage to take any pics of me on here. They would probably end up being shared and picked to pieces. I think that's your problem Op, you can't trust anyone on here.

I’d love some professional photos but as Dana says .. I really wouldn’t trust someone I didn’t know from here

You can trust me i just don't have camera

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would you take my bumhole OP....

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"Would you take my bumhole OP....

Your fab straight is showing again nippy....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would you take my bumhole OP....

Your fab straight is showing again nippy....

I know, I'm showing a huge crack.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Something I wana do but just nervous

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"Would you take my bumhole OP....

Your fab straight is showing again nippy....

I know, I'm showing a huge crack....."

Always

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This was a professional studio, with 3 rooms set up for having photographs taken in plus you got a makeover prior to the shoot too. I can understand why they have to charge those prices, it's just unfortunate it's out of the price range of most people. "

Yes, I fully understand the costs involved. Rather than operate my own studio, I just hire one when and where it is required. But it costs money to open the doors, turn the lights on, and equip it. Make up artists have to be paid. Photographers have to be paid. Consumables have to be paid for. Doing things properly costs money. So I'm not passing any judgement on the price, just questioning the method.

Often, after the shoot there is a high-pressure sale involved, with some studios even having finance agreements available help with the purchase.

Free photoshoots / make overs don't always come with free portfolios.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have more pictures on your profile than those who contact us. You've got a flair for photography, I enjoy looking through yours as they're so well taken.

Thank you! It’s simply something I enjoy playing with...trying to find new inspiration!!"

I always love your pics. They are brilliant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Often, after the shoot there is a high-pressure sale involved, with some studios even having finance agreements available help with the purchase.

Free photoshoots / make overs don't always come with free portfolios."

They made me aware of costs involved and none of it was pressured. Yes, they had a finance plan but who doesn't offer finance these days?

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

I wouldn't trust a sausage to take any pics of me on here. They would probably end up being shared and picked to pieces. I think that's your problem Op, you can't trust anyone on here.

I’d love some professional photos but as Dana says .. I really wouldn’t trust someone I didn’t know from here

You can trust me i just don't have camera

I found it

, my phone have camera

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They made me aware of costs involved and none of it was pressured. Yes, they had a finance plan but who doesn't offer finance these days? "

So long as you were aware of the costs BEFORE you set foot inside, that's fair enough. Then, it's their risk that they can produce a package sufficiently compelling for you to sign on the line...

I think you'd look fabulous in a boudoir style shoot anyhow. What's on show on your profile is lovely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've some interesting locations for your pics as well."

Make the most of what’s around....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They made me aware of costs involved and none of it was pressured. Yes, they had a finance plan but who doesn't offer finance these days?

So long as you were aware of the costs BEFORE you set foot inside, that's fair enough. Then, it's their risk that they can produce a package sufficiently compelling for you to sign on the line...

I think you'd look fabulous in a boudoir style shoot anyhow. What's on show on your profile is lovely."

Thank you. I've never been back to see the pics actually...

I was ill on the day I was due to see them and then couldn't find the confidence to go and sit in a room to look at photos of me in my underwear on my own.

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

I just found my phone have camera

, i would like to anounce from now i'm offering a full photograph session full of shoots

, first two photographs are charged for the rest of the full session.

Because the guidelines i will be using 2mm smart phone camera distancing to complying with government guidance

Subscriptions open now !!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Oh god the fun police are out. Firstly.. try taking a selfie with 2kg of camera and no way to light meter correctly etc.. secondly.. I’m not selling anything (so that’s a free £600 hey)

And if people were really worried, they could supply the flash card and I can leave it with them.

As someone said way above.. it’s about trust.. and you can’t trust many on here.

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

"Oh god the fun police are out. Firstly.. try taking a selfie with 2kg of camera and no way to light meter correctly etc.. secondly.. I’m not selling anything (so that’s a free £600 hey)

And if people were really worried, they could supply the flash card and I can leave it with them.

As someone said way above.. it’s about trust.. and you can’t trust many on here. "

We all trust you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Firstly.. try taking a selfie with 2kg of camera and no way to light meter correctly etc.. "

Are you suggesting that you cannot do that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You may use a selfie stick. I don’t.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As an exhibitionist there is nothing more exciting than a photographer with an 'eye' and lighting...doesn't matter about the equipment.. You can achieve amazing things if you have an aptitude for framing, angles and of course lighting

I find it weird that prople are so suspicious?

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By *ily WhiteWoman
over a year ago

"Oh god the fun police are out. Firstly.. try taking a selfie with 2kg of camera and no way to light meter correctly etc.. secondly.. I’m not selling anything (so that’s a free £600 hey)

And if people were really worried, they could supply the flash card and I can leave it with them.

As someone said way above.. it’s about trust.. and you can’t trust many on here. "

But what about if your camera has a second card slot? A lot of people wouldn't be aware of that.

Personally, I wouldn't trust anybody on here enough to use them as a photographer unless I knew them very well - I'd prefer to hire a studio and take them myself, which also lets me exercise my own creativity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You may use a selfie stick. I don’t. "

Tripod(s) best investment to date ..

I have around x3 of them for my Nikon, and x2 for my iPhone ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You may use a selfie stick. I don’t. "

Nope, don't use them, though I'm sure I have on somewhere for my GoPro's. I was asking if you are capable of taking a self portrait? There are lots of ways to do so. You suggested however that it wasn't possible for you. Just wondering why?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don’t believe in self portraits. That’s a discussion for another day and probably too highbrow for here.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

I have a related qualification. A good camera. Decent editing skills. But I've mostly shot landscapes and travel photography previously.

So I would never ask anyone on here until I'd be be able to show them some model shots.

I'm in a local photography club where I was going to get that model experience through group shoots....then we locked down

So I wouldn't expect people to let me shoot them unless I had a decent portfolio.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Usually yes. Although fabs is hardly a photograph competition. Reading above some seem cool where as other would rather pay. So if you wanted to you probably could and learn as you go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t believe in self portraits. That’s a discussion for another day and probably too highbrow for here."

Do you not think that’s Both little presumptuous and condescending???

The belief in self portraits being a discussion too high brow for here?! Based on what exactly?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With modern technology and high end phones haveing some off the best cameras in the industry it’s strating to die out a £20 trypod for ur phone and set it to take a pic in 30s is all you need these days x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"With modern technology and high end phones haveing some off the best cameras in the industry it’s strating to die out a £20 trypod for ur phone and set it to take a pic in 30s is all you need these days x"
respectfully I disagree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Respectfull I don’t conceding a cupple off big Hollywood moves that are on the way out we’re all shot useing multiple iPhone 11 Pro Max’s

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don’t believe in self portraits. That’s a discussion for another day and probably too highbrow for here.

Do you not think that’s Both little presumptuous and condescending???

The belief in self portraits being a discussion too high brow for here?! Based on what exactly?!

I believe a portrait should capture someone in their natural surrounding, it should tell the story of who they are and how they arrived here. It is certainly not a selfie or a photograph of self. I don’t believe someone can truly tell that story of them self.. I find self portrait almost a conflicting statement.. you can never truly see yourself, therefore how can you attempt to capture it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t believe in self portraits. That’s a discussion for another day and probably too highbrow for here.

Do you not think that’s Both little presumptuous and condescending???

The belief in self portraits being a discussion too high brow for here?! Based on what exactly?!

Perspective of one individual and I’m sure there are many who disagree and that in fact the one time you can capture the essence of an individual is what they are totally at ease perhaps on their own. It’s well known that we all portray a certain way in particular environments and to particular people.

The person who has best insight to the self is the self...as long as you are prepared to look. As a photographer you are shown a version. You are privileged to be a part of that individuals journey.

Perspective gained from others is invaluable in developing ideas and most certainly not a conversation too high brow for here. Arrogance like that as a photographer must serve you well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No need for a photographer there, we prefer pics on profiles where they haven’t been done by a pro.

We are the same and enjoy taking pics so having a photographer there would spoil it for us.

Mr C

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No need for a photographer there, we prefer pics on profiles where they haven’t been done by a pro.

We are the same and enjoy taking pics so having a photographer there would spoil it for us.

Mr C"

Nice pics...and heels!

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over a year ago

"I don’t believe in self portraits. That’s a discussion for another day and probably too highbrow for here.

Do you not think that’s Both little presumptuous and condescending???

The belief in self portraits being a discussion too high brow for here?! Based on what exactly?!

The person who has best insight to the self is the self...as long as you are prepared to look. As a photographer you are shown a version. You are privileged to be a part of that individuals journey.

Perspective gained from others is invaluable in developing ideas and most certainly not a conversation too high brow for here. Arrogance like that as a photographer must serve you well."

Respectfully I disagree. I’m not here to be influenced. I like the way I do things and that is reflected in my photography. It’s not arrogance. A photograph who works with the rules is boring. You need to push.. photographers push people..rules..what’s accepted.. one needs to stand out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t believe in self portraits. That’s a discussion for another day and probably too highbrow for here.

Do you not think that’s Both little presumptuous and condescending???

The belief in self portraits being a discussion too high brow for here?! Based on what exactly?!

The person who has best insight to the self is the self...as long as you are prepared to look. As a photographer you are shown a version. You are privileged to be a part of that individuals journey.

Perspective gained from others is invaluable in developing ideas and most certainly not a conversation too high brow for here. Arrogance like that as a photographer must serve you well.

Do you think your profile pics stand out?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t believe in self portraits. That’s a discussion for another day and probably too highbrow for here.

Do you not think that’s Both little presumptuous and condescending???

The belief in self portraits being a discussion too high brow for here?! Based on what exactly?!

The person who has best insight to the self is the self...as long as you are prepared to look. As a photographer you are shown a version. You are privileged to be a part of that individuals journey.

Perspective gained from others is invaluable in developing ideas and most certainly not a conversation too high brow for here. Arrogance like that as a photographer must serve you well.

And do your pics stand out then OP?

Mr C

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t believe in self portraits. That’s a discussion for another day and probably too highbrow for here.

Do you not think that’s Both little presumptuous and condescending???

The belief in self portraits being a discussion too high brow for here?! Based on what exactly?!

The person who has best insight to the self is the self...as long as you are prepared to look. As a photographer you are shown a version. You are privileged to be a part of that individuals journey.

Perspective gained from others is invaluable in developing ideas and most certainly not a conversation too high brow for here. Arrogance like that as a photographer must serve you well.

Nothing you have stated leads me to believe this requires a photographer. This can easily be done by oneself. If one is more at ease this way we push ourselves stripped of self consciousness we strive to do something knowing it’s I observed thus pushing boundaries that unlikely would otherwise be crossed.

Being a photographer does not mean you can and will do this of course a potential is there not a guarantee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No need for a photographer there, we prefer pics on profiles where they haven’t been done by a pro.

We are the same and enjoy taking pics so having a photographer there would spoil it for us.

Mr C

Nice pics...and heels!

Thanks, yours are wicked too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No need for a photographer there, we prefer pics on profiles where they haven’t been done by a pro.

We are the same and enjoy taking pics so having a photographer there would spoil it for us.

Mr C

Nice pics...and heels!

Thanks, yours are wicked too

Cheers! Pay a visit to stiletto Saturday...pics will go down a treat

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

No need for a photographer there, we prefer pics on profiles where they haven’t been done by a pro.

We are the same and enjoy taking pics so having a photographer there would spoil it for us.

Mr C

Nice pics...and heels!

Thanks, yours are wicked too

Cheers! Pay a visit to stiletto Saturday...pics will go down a treat

Seconded.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No need for a photographer there, we prefer pics on profiles where they haven’t been done by a pro.

We are the same and enjoy taking pics so having a photographer there would spoil it for us.

Mr C

Nice pics...and heels!

Thanks, yours are wicked too

Cheers! Pay a visit to stiletto Saturday...pics will go down a treat

Stiletto Saturday?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No need for a photographer there, we prefer pics on profiles where they haven’t been done by a pro.

We are the same and enjoy taking pics so having a photographer there would spoil it for us.

Mr C

Nice pics...and heels!

Thanks, yours are wicked too

Cheers! Pay a visit to stiletto Saturday...pics will go down a treat

Ah found it in the forums lol, yeah will do

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don’t believe in self portraits. That’s a discussion for another day and probably too highbrow for here.

Do you not think that’s Both little presumptuous and condescending???

The belief in self portraits being a discussion too high brow for here?! Based on what exactly?!

The person who has best insight to the self is the self...as long as you are prepared to look. As a photographer you are shown a version. You are privileged to be a part of that individuals journey.

Perspective gained from others is invaluable in developing ideas and most certainly not a conversation too high brow for here. Arrogance like that as a photographer must serve you well.

Do you think your profile pics stand out?"

No. It’s kinda what this thread is about tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No need for a photographer there, we prefer pics on profiles where they haven’t been done by a pro.

We are the same and enjoy taking pics so having a photographer there would spoil it for us.

Mr C

Nice pics...and heels!

Thanks, yours are wicked too

Cheers! Pay a visit to stiletto Saturday...pics will go down a treat

Seconded. "

Of course! Best day of the week!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t believe in self portraits. That’s a discussion for another day and probably too highbrow for here.

Do you not think that’s Both little presumptuous and condescending???

The belief in self portraits being a discussion too high brow for here?! Based on what exactly?!

The person who has best insight to the self is the self...as long as you are prepared to look. As a photographer you are shown a version. You are privileged to be a part of that individuals journey.

Perspective gained from others is invaluable in developing ideas and most certainly not a conversation too high brow for here. Arrogance like that as a photographer must serve you well.

Do you think your profile pics stand out?

No. It’s kinda what this thread is about tbh"

Doesn’t add up, you have said you have a skill you want to share. We get offers all the time for photo shoots, free massages, single guys asking us to join their kik group full of couples and single bi females which all just seem like a shit attempt to try and get a foot in the door.

We’ve even stated that we don’t want any of these things in our bio due to the volume of offers, who would have known there are so many photographers on fab which are all male

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Agree. All discussed above. However I’m not putting my work on this site. It’s crass.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree. All discussed above. However I’m not putting my work on this site. It’s crass. "

To clarify your work is crass....or the website?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree. All discussed above. However I’m not putting my work on this site. It’s crass. "

Again doesn’t add up, you said you wanted to share this skill earlier. If your not willing to share the stuff you’ve done yourself on here why on earth would anyone let you take those type of pics to post themselves on here as apparently their pics are bad?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You know their are other places to share photos outside of fabs. What people do with content they own is upto them.

Feel free to keep digging. Not sure what your looking for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The smartphone is absolutely killing the photographic equipment industry, and also business of photographers. Many people within the photography industry are in complete denial about this, which will hasten their end.

Smartphones do not produce better quality, or even as good quality as even a low end dSLR or mirrorless camera. They are not more capable, or better ergonomically. A lot of people in the photographic community think this gives them the edge. It doesn't.

Smartphones are more convenient, self contained, very connected and, crucially, always with you. You can share an image, post it online, edit it, straight away without the use of a third party computer. They are not the best quality, but for enough people, the quality is good enough. They are sufficient. And for most people, the better quality and flexibility available with a dedicated camera system does not justify the cost, bulk and complexity involved.

People are interested in pictures, not the equipment, or process.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Respectfull I don’t conceding a cupple off big Hollywood moves that are on the way out we’re all shot useing multiple iPhone 11 Pro Max’s "

Beware of spin. iPhones may well be used, but there is a lot of additional software and equipment used, such as lenses, 4K recorders, audio etc, without mentioning lighting. Then, the data stream is graded, processed, etc...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Respectfully I disagree. I’m not here to be influenced. I like the way I do things and that is reflected in my photography. It’s not arrogance. A photograph who works with the rules is boring. You need to push.. photographers push people..rules..what’s accepted.. one needs to stand out. "

I get your point about not wishing to be influenced, but a lot of what you say comes across as arty bollox. Yes, there are rules, yes they can be broken. But it's knowing when, and how, to break them that matters. Portrature is huge subject in it's own right, and there is no right or wrong here.

You may have a view on "selfies", and you may not like them (not a huge fan personally) but that in no way shape or form dismisses there validity as a type of portraiture.

However, earlier you suggested it wasn't possible for you to do a self portrait, and cited technical reasons. YOu've not yet answered what those technical reasons are that prevent you from doing a self portrait?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

People are interested in pictures, not the equipment, or process."

Try doing a wedding on a smart phone.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You may have a view on "selfies", and you may not like them (not a huge fan personally) but that in no way shape or form dismisses there validity as a type of portraiture.

Have a think what they could be. Perhaps 85mm at arms length?

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By *latinumkittenWoman
over a year ago

from Home Counties to Middle Earth

I would decline your offer OP. There are two photographers on another site, with massive following, that suit my style and I'm still umming and arring about a shoot.

I enjoy taking my own and I've taken a few for others, which I agree is enjoyable. There's a huge amount of trust required, that the vast majority of people are not prepared to take.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have a think what they could be. Perhaps 85mm at arms length?"

I wasn't aware that a self (a self portrait) had to be taken at arms length? Mount or place a camera somewhere, compose set exposure and prefocus the shot, trigger the camera remotely or by self timer, or both... I can think of lots of ways to solve the issue. You say you can't do it. Please, do explain why, as a photographer you can't (not won't) do it?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Have a think what they could be. Perhaps 85mm at arms length?

Please explain why you need me to explain first.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would decline your offer OP. There are two photographers on another site, with massive following, that suit my style and I'm still umming and arring about a shoot.

I enjoy taking my own and I've taken a few for others, which I agree is enjoyable. There's a huge amount of trust required, that the vast majority of people are not prepared to take."

It’s not necessarily an offer. More a topic of conversation. It all stems from trust more than anything else. I agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can offer but be prepared to show off some of your work. There's plenty of threads with "photographers" offering to take pictures for "nothing in return"

This

Most of these ‘adverts’ come across a little:

“Anyone fancy letting me watch/photograph them having sex-welcome to a free copy of my wank-fodder as a payment”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Please explain why you need me to explain first. "

What the hell, okay.

1. You stake a claim as to being a skilled photographer.

2. You are touting your services on here as a photographer.

3. You claim that it is technically not possible for you to take a self portrait. Call it a selfie if you like.

Given all of the above, I was wondering why a person who claims to be a skilled photographer with sufficient confidence to offer their services to other people, is saying they are technically unable to take a self portrait.

Again, for clarity UNABLE rather than UNWILLING.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You can offer but be prepared to show off some of your work. There's plenty of threads with "photographers" offering to take pictures for "nothing in return"

This

Most of these ‘adverts’ come across a little:

“Anyone fancy letting me watch/photograph them having sex-welcome to a free copy of my wank-fodder as a payment”

Oi.. that wank folders is worth a few £k

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Prepare for lots of

"What equipment do you have? Where is your portfolio, how many years have you been doing it, you can take the photos but I want the memory card and you can't do any editing of them" type messages

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And I did my own profile pic

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Please explain why you need me to explain first.

What the hell, okay.

1. You stake a claim as to being a skilled photographer.

2. You are touting your services on here as a photographer.

3. You claim that it is technically not possible for you to take a self portrait. Call it a selfie if you like.

Again, for clarity UNABLE rather than UNWILLING."

1 yes

2 no

3 correct. I’m not at liberty to educate you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Prepare for lots of

"What equipment do you have? Where is your portfolio, how many years have you been doing it, you can take the photos but I want the memory card and you can't do any editing of them" type messages"

Yes.. and the trolling. It’s a great photo. I’m struggling to comprehend how you took it.

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By *siancouplehantsCouple
over a year ago

K-PAX

Quite happy with the pics I have taken on our profile,think I have done rather well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Prepare for lots of

"What equipment do you have? Where is your portfolio, how many years have you been doing it, you can take the photos but I want the memory card and you can't do any editing of them" type messages

Yes.. and the trolling. It’s a great photo. I’m struggling to comprehend how you took it.

Tripod and remote trigger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1 yes

2 no

3 correct. I’m not at liberty to educate you."

Actually, 2 is also YES... you were offering your services at the top of tis thread.

That you are unwilling (or unable) to explain why, as a self declared skilled photographer, you are unable to take a selfie / self portrait, despite me at your request explaining the reasons why I and others might find that a reasonable question means myself and others will draw our own conclusions with you declining the opportunity to influence positively.

I don't need your education OP, I've been a photographer for decades, have shot all sorts of material, and all sorts of people, some world famous, some only famous in their own household. There is very little I haven't done in photography.

It was a simple question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There a distinct inability or unwilling to answer questions which have been posed based upon your comments In regard to the skill and decency of picture on profiles here.

The skill you seem to claim to have and wish to share does not seem apparent either on your profile or your ability to articulate your argument or perspective.

Nor is it evidenced by the picture sent to me personally.

And so I ponder exactly what are you trying to gain by this thread?!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No I didn’t.

Famous wow. But you still seek me to educate you? Why? Are you insecure? Maybe you’ve been doing it wrong all these years and your portfolio is worthless in reflection. Your struggling to deal with the shame.

All of the above is ok. I can help.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

There a distinct inability or unwilling to answer questions which have been posed based upon your comments In regard to the skill and decency of picture on profiles here.

The skill you seem to claim to have and wish to share does not seem apparent either on your profile or your ability to articulate your argument or perspective.

Nor is it evidenced by the picture sent to me personally.

And so I ponder exactly what are you trying to gain by this thread?!

I thought it more interesting than the conversations about death, dinner or even cheese. I didn’t realise it would release the hounds.

You make people feel about as welcome as an untrousered genital at a children’s party. Demanding evidence etc.

Read the threads and reflect perhaps. Or don’t I guess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There a distinct inability or unwilling to answer questions which have been posed based upon your comments In regard to the skill and decency of picture on profiles here.

The skill you seem to claim to have and wish to share does not seem apparent either on your profile or your ability to articulate your argument or perspective.

Nor is it evidenced by the picture sent to me personally.

And so I ponder exactly what are you trying to gain by this thread?!

I thought it more interesting than the conversations about death, dinner or even cheese. I didn’t realise it would release the hounds.

You make people feel about as welcome as an untrousered genital at a children’s party. Demanding evidence etc.

Read the threads and reflect perhaps. Or don’t I guess. "

Perhaps one ought to re-examine their attitude throughout the thread. There is a tone of arrogance self importance and an implication that you yourself are better than those here. Remember your remark as to conversation around photography being too “high brow” for here. And yet there are several photographers within this thread and indeed on the site that don’t believe them selves to be better or criticise the picture of others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I mean, by all means mention it on your profile. You never know, some may wish to meet and have their pics taken. Some won't. I wouldn't see it as a deterrent for me if I fancied a guy and wanted to meet him anyway. I just may not be up for having pics taken.

What creeps me out/turns me off immensely are the countless number of guys sliding into my messages claiming to be pro-photographers (with shit photos on their profile). Offering free photoshoots or insulting my pics.

Personally, if I wanted professional images, I'd attend an organised shoot or photography event at my local club.

Perhaps allow a Fabber I knew and trusted to take some. But it wouldn't ever really be something I'd look for on here. Or an incentive to meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No I didn’t."

From your very first post...

"I have a skill I would love to share for free as long as location, time etc works."

So, you were offering!

"Famous wow. But you still seek me to educate you? Why? Are you insecure? Maybe you’ve been doing it wrong all these years and your portfolio is worthless in reflection. Your struggling to deal with the shame.

All of the above is ok. I can help."

As you are failing to comprehend the question, allow me to spell it out one last time:

Please explain what technical issue you as a skilled photographer are unable to overcome that prevents you from taking a self portrait? It would really help the readers of this thread understand your position.

I sincerely doubt there is much for me to learn from you. Not about photography, and certainly not about how to present yourself on a forum. When challenged you turn to abuse. Why? We know why people resort to that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I’m allowed to be arrogant it’s my thread.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No I didn’t.

From your very first post...

I have a skill I would love to share for free as long as location, time etc works.

So, you were offering!

All of the above is ok. I can help.

As you are failing to comprehend the question, allow me to spell it out one last time:

Maybe a decent portrait lens @ 85m and a small area in an apartment that would be suitable for a photograph would suffice. However I’m not sure their will be any pleasing you. Ever. You are however correct that you won’t learn anything from me, as you appear to know everything already.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I mean, by all means mention it on your profile. You never know, some may wish to meet and have their pics taken. Some won't. I wouldn't see it as a deterrent for me if I fancied a guy and wanted to meet him anyway. I just may not be up for having pics taken.

Personally, if I wanted professional images, I'd attend an organised shoot or photography event at my local club.

Perhaps allow a Fabber I knew and trusted to take some. But it wouldn't ever really be something I'd look for on here. Or an incentive to meet "

Your local club. Where you would meet someone like me. Photographers are conscious about image rights. I didn’t read the small print however I would assume a submission forgives ownership.

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over a year ago

"I’m allowed to be arrogant it’s my thread. "

Please explain? I fail to see the logic here

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I’m allowed to be arrogant it’s my thread.

Please explain? I fail to see the logic here "

So when I own a thread am I not entitled to steer the conversation & be a jerk?

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over a year ago

Personally, if I wanted professional images, I'd attend an organised shoot or photography event at my local club.

Perhaps allow a Fabber I knew and trusted to take some. But it wouldn't ever really be something I'd look for on here. Or an incentive to meet

Your local club. Where you would meet someone like me. Photographers are conscious about image rights. I didn’t read the small print however I would assume a submission forgives ownership. "

Assumptions......one should always read the small print.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m allowed to be arrogant it’s my thread.

Please explain? I fail to see the logic here "

You beat me to it!!

I thought it was rather an articulate comment...much along the lines of other arguments that have been put forwards.

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over a year ago

"I’m allowed to be arrogant it’s my thread.

Please explain? I fail to see the logic here

So when I own a thread am I not entitled to steer the conversation & be a jerk?"

Since when has being a jerk Become a good thing. Or simply is This as you are unable to articulate your point?! Or answer well posed questions?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe a decent portrait lens @ 85m and a small area in an apartment that would be suitable for a photograph would suffice. However I’m not sure their will be any pleasing you. Ever. You are however correct that you won’t learn anything from me, as you appear to know everything already."

Oh, you feel you are limited by your equipment? Strike one! Not enough space? Can't you go outside? Strike two! I didn't need to be pleased, I needed you to explain why you feel capable of photographing other people but not yourself. Strike three!

I do not doubt for one minute there are things I can learn, in many walks of life. With photography for example (as with all walks of life), I'm learning every day.

I am confident however that what ever lessons there are for me in life, you are not my teacher.

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over a year ago

Personally, if I wanted professional images, I'd attend an organised shoot or photography event at my local club.

Perhaps allow a Fabber I knew and trusted to take some. But it wouldn't ever really be something I'd look for on here. Or an incentive to meet

Your local club. Where you would meet someone like me. Photographers are conscious about image rights. I didn’t read the small print however I would assume a submission forgives ownership. "

Nope. An organised Club event purely for photographers and models (both pro and amateur). Where you'd discuss in advance ideas, expectations and sign any necessary agreements. Always on a TFP basis

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By *siancouplehantsCouple
over a year ago

K-PAX

Been observing this thread for a while and someone is acting like a complete donkey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's see your selection of decent photographs first, OP.

I'll wait.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's so creepy. It's always mainly a sly married bloke who only replies to the women for perverted pictures. Makes my skin crawl and I'm a bloke.

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over a year ago

"It's so creepy. It's always mainly a sly married bloke who only replies to the women for perverted pictures. Makes my skin crawl and I'm a bloke. "

It’s not so much the principle of offering service as much as the attitude.

Would it be viewed differently if a woman was to offer this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can offer but be prepared to show off some of your work. There's plenty of threads with "photographers" offering to take pictures for "nothing in return"

This

Most of these ‘adverts’ come across a little:

“Anyone fancy letting me watch/photograph them having sex-welcome to a free copy of my wank-fodder as a payment”

Oi.. that wank folders is worth a few £k"

Is it now. Ok, then...how will you be paying us, we don’t take PayPal or mcdonalds monopoly vouchers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m allowed to be arrogant it’s my thread.

Please explain? I fail to see the logic here

So when I own a thread am I not entitled to steer the conversation & be a jerk?"

Why would you choose be a jerk anywhere? I don’t get it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why would you choose be a jerk anywhere? I don’t get it?"

I'm guessing, as a jerk he doesn't get it either, and presumably its not a choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why would you choose be a jerk anywhere? I don’t get it?

I'm guessing, as a jerk he doesn't get it either, and presumably its not a choice."

Not laughing here at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let jerks be jerks

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By *elle xWoman
over a year ago

Doire Theas

"Why would you choose be a jerk anywhere? I don’t get it?

I'm guessing, as a jerk he doesn't get it either, and presumably its not a choice."

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over a year ago

"Why would you choose be a jerk anywhere? I don’t get it?

I'm guessing, as a jerk he doesn't get it either, and presumably its not a choice."

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over a year ago

"It's so creepy. It's always mainly a sly married bloke who only replies to the women for perverted pictures. Makes my skin crawl and I'm a bloke.

It’s not so much the principle of offering service as much as the attitude.

Would it be viewed differently if a woman was to offer this?"

A woman wouldn't offer though as they normally aren't perverted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's so creepy. It's always mainly a sly married bloke who only replies to the women for perverted pictures. Makes my skin crawl and I'm a bloke.

It’s not so much the principle of offering service as much as the attitude.

Would it be viewed differently if a woman was to offer this?

A woman wouldn't offer though as they normally aren't perverted. "

What an assumption! Why do you have to be perverted to offer to take pictures?!

I’d happily take pictures for individuals or couples should they ask....doesn’t make someone a pervert!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's so creepy. It's always mainly a sly married bloke who only replies to the women for perverted pictures. Makes my skin crawl and I'm a bloke.

It’s not so much the principle of offering service as much as the attitude.

Would it be viewed differently if a woman was to offer this?

A woman wouldn't offer though as they normally aren't perverted.

What an assumption! Why do you have to be perverted to offer to take pictures?!

I’d happily take pictures for individuals or couples should they ask....doesn’t make someone a pervert!! "

Does in my book when it's creepy old men on Fab offering it free just to women

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

So your skill is bugger all to do with photography then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So your skill is bugger all to do with photography then? "

Not is it advocating his perspective...or answering questions....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So your skill is bugger all to do with photography then? "

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By *airytaleOfNewPorkMan
over a year ago

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"People try their best and have fun trying. I would say mine are better than yours OP and i just use my little phone and timer."

Can't beat the phone and timer!!! Love my tike taking pictures of myself ha

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By *ic_khan2341Man
over a year ago

Manchester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's so creepy. It's always mainly a sly married bloke who only replies to the women for perverted pictures. Makes my skin crawl and I'm a bloke.

It’s not so much the principle of offering service as much as the attitude.

Would it be viewed differently if a woman was to offer this?

A woman wouldn't offer though as they normally aren't perverted.

What an assumption! Why do you have to be perverted to offer to take pictures?!

I’d happily take pictures for individuals or couples should they ask....doesn’t make someone a pervert!!

Does in my book when it's creepy old men on Fab offering it free just to women

My point being as a woman...does that make me creepy and perverted in offering to take pictures?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My point being as a woman...does that make me creepy and perverted in offering to take pictures?!

Ask me... and find out!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My point being as a woman...does that make me creepy and perverted in offering to take pictures?!

Ask me... and find out!

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By *ecretlivesCouple
over a year ago

FABWatch HQ

Seldom has a thread made us laugh as much, seemingly unintentionally. To be in the presence of such self assurance unimpeded by any or irony or low self-esteem has been a pleasure. Its only a shame your original profile pics have suddenly been hidden. Whilst we realise it was pearls before swine, we were looking forward to enjoying again the delights you deigned to share with us crass plebs. Still, we have the memories.

Thank you OP Thank you