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"He got home and realised he had left his 8 year old daughter in the pub. Someone call social services!" Apparently she was on a bar stool and working through the optics when they got back to the boozer. | |||
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"Totally not his or his missus's fault.. all down to new labour allowing in too many foreign workers who just dont grasp the concept of servitude to the establishment... Well said. I have no idea what it means but well written all the same. " | |||
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"My mum left me in her car and then went and got the bus home !! " Did she leave you the keys? | |||
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"My mum left me in her car and then went and got the bus home !! Did she leave you the keys?" | |||
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation "Better him than a brother who thinks nothing of knifing his sibling in the back. Cameron guffed big time and he knows the press will hammer him for it, but it could have happened to anyone - and has, many times. | |||
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation "actually in this case hes human. | |||
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"And the BBC news implied that Downing street are blaming the security forces" They have a point. Head of Cameron security: All agents, everyone accounted for? Rest of security: No, boss, eldest Cameron child not with rest of party. How feckin easy is that if I can come up with such a simple security check in 2 minutes without any training. | |||
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation
Better him than a brother who thinks nothing of knifing his sibling in the back.
Cameron guffed big time and he knows the press will hammer him for it, but it could have happened to anyone - and has, many times."two cars LMFAO thats a far cry away from when he road a bike into parliament to show his green credentials in a publicity stunt(tho he did have his car driven a couple of yards behind) | |||
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"And the BBC news implied that Downing street are blaming the security forces They have a point. Head of Cameron security: All agents, everyone accounted for? Rest of security: No, boss, eldest Cameron child not with rest of party. How feckin easy is that if I can come up with such a simple security check in 2 minutes without any training." si it's ok for dave to delegate responsibilty for his family but everyone else takes responsibility for theirs | |||
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation
Better him than a brother who thinks nothing of knifing his sibling in the back.
."Do you think? I would say misplacing a child has to be worse for anyone, including him. It seems it was a mix up ....a bit rough though that two parents and a security team leave a kid behind. I wouldn't want that security team looking after me thats for sure  | |||
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation " | |||
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation
Better him than a brother who thinks nothing of knifing his sibling in the back.
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Do you think? I would say misplacing a child has to be worse for anyone, including him.
It seems it was a mix up ....a bit rough though that two parents and a security team leave a kid behind.
I wouldn't want that security team looking after me thats for sure " | |||
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation
Better him than a brother who thinks nothing of knifing his sibling in the back.
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Do you think? I would say misplacing a child has to be worse for anyone, including him.
It seems it was a mix up ....a bit rough though that two parents and a security team leave a kid behind.
I wouldn't want that security team looking after me thats for sure
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation
Better him than a brother who thinks nothing of knifing his sibling in the back.
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Do you think? I would say misplacing a child has to be worse for anyone, including him.
It seems it was a mix up ....a bit rough though that two parents and a security team leave a kid behind.
I wouldn't want that security team looking after me thats for sure
Are you by any chance starting a party-political propaganda campaign ?"nahh cant be bothered .... | |||
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"And the BBC news implied that Downing street are blaming the security forces They have a point. Head of Cameron security: All agents, everyone accounted for? Rest of security: No, boss, eldest Cameron child not with rest of party. How feckin easy is that if I can come up with such a simple security check in 2 minutes without any training. si it's ok for dave to delegate responsibilty for his family but everyone else takes responsibility for theirs" Think about it logically for a second and then put yourself in his shoes. He's Prime Minister of the UK and as such he is a target for whatever crank with a grudge against us or the Americans, so it makes poerfect sense that if someone wants to launch a rocket propelled missle at his car that his children wouldn't be in that car. Take two cars. The fuck up is that whoever was in the car that Cameron wasn't should have known that his children wouldn't be with him. Period. | |||
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"I'd been shopping with my daughter, the two of us walked in her hand in mine, bags in my other and my husband asked had I forgotten anything? No was the reply, I think I got all I went out for. He then asked where was our son. I had left him in his pram outside the grocers. "I confess to soemthing similar just after my first one was born... I left him in the car going shopping, half way down the mall I thought something was missing 
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"I'd been shopping with my daughter, the two of us walked in her hand in mine, bags in my other and my husband asked had I forgotten anything? No was the reply, I think I got all I went out for. He then asked where was our son. I had left him in his pram outside the grocers.
I confess to soemthing similar just after my first one was born... I left him in the car going shopping, half way down the mall I thought something was missing
".... similar to myself then, shortly after having my son and I was still experiencing the 'baby fog', where I was active all day with my daughter and up all night with my baby son. | |||
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"I'd been shopping with my daughter, the two of us walked in her hand in mine, bags in my other and my husband asked had I forgotten anything? No was the reply, I think I got all I went out for. He then asked where was our son. I had left him in his pram outside the grocers.
I confess to soemthing similar just after my first one was born... I left him in the car going shopping, half way down the mall I thought something was missing
.... similar to myself then, shortly after having my son and I was still experiencing the 'baby fog', where I was active all day with my daughter and up all night with my baby son. "In all fairness,I agree with you, Laine, that I dont think this should be used as propaganda - it could have happened to anybody, irrespective of their political _iews. | |||
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"cameron is deemed fit to look after our country ,yet he cant look after his own kid any one else would have been charged with neglect one law for those and such as those another law for the rest of us " Straight from the list of standard downloadable responses from north of the border SNP/Labour supporters.  | |||
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"The incident occurred two months ago....The following week her Dad launched a government fund to teach parenting skills by offering £100 tuition vouchers to wayward parents 'who clearly haven't got a clue'
"£100 doesn't buy security of one's family across two cars. Clearly the £100 offer was for Mr & Mrs Chav from Chavsville to keep them in the pub and slamdunk the kids for fucking up their drinking cash if it gets withdrawn for 'bad parenting skills'. Not a good day for the Tories that one. | |||
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"I'd been shopping with my daughter, the two of us walked in her hand in mine, bags in my other and my husband asked had I forgotten anything? No was the reply, I think I got all I went out for. He then asked where was our son. I had left him in his pram outside the grocers.
I confess to soemthing similar just after my first one was born... I left him in the car going shopping, half way down the mall I thought something was missing
.... similar to myself then, shortly after having my son and I was still experiencing the 'baby fog', where I was active all day with my daughter and up all night with my baby son.
In all fairness,I agree with you, Laine, that I dont think this should be used as propaganda - it could have happened to anybody, irrespective of their political _iews. "Mind you though, I don't have nannies drivers or security guards to follow behind me and round up any strays ..... I only have an ageing sheepdog. | |||
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"The incident occurred two months ago....The following week her Dad launched a government fund to teach parenting skills by offering £100 tuition vouchers to wayward parents 'who clearly haven't got a clue'
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" any one else would have been charged with neglect " no they wouldn't | |||
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"cameron is deemed fit to look after our country ,yet he cant look after his own kid any one else would have been charged with neglect one law for those and such as those another law for the rest of us Straight from the list of standard downloadable responses from north of the border SNP/Labour supporters. "Nonsense. Some of us can respect political figures even when we disagree with most if not all of our _iews. But Cameron? The man is an idiot . | |||
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"And the BBC news implied that Downing street are blaming the security forces They have a point. Head of Cameron security: All agents, everyone accounted for? Rest of security: No, boss, eldest Cameron child not with rest of party. How feckin easy is that if I can come up with such a simple security check in 2 minutes without any training." Come on, this is thin stuff... According to the report this morning the detail went with the target, the wife went with the kids. The detail guard the target - they don't organize the family.... Hence Euan Blair going walkabout in leicester sq pissed as a fart - wonder what your opinion was of that Wishy? | |||
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation
Better him than a brother who thinks nothing of knifing his sibling in the back.
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Do you think? I would say misplacing a child has to be worse for anyone, including him.
It seems it was a mix up ....a bit rough though that two parents and a security team leave a kid behind.
I wouldn't want that security team looking after me thats for sure "Do you need a security team? There will have been two or three teams - close protection on the target, possibly a screen team on the route , and probably a team on the pick up / drop off points. It's their job to watch for bandits, not to count children - they'll kind of assume cam and sam will know how many kids they have and where they are... | |||
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation
Better him than a brother who thinks nothing of knifing his sibling in the back.
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Do you think? I would say misplacing a child has to be worse for anyone, including him.
It seems it was a mix up ....a bit rough though that two parents and a security team leave a kid behind.
I wouldn't want that security team looking after me thats for sure
Do you need a security team?
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation
Better him than a brother who thinks nothing of knifing his sibling in the back.
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Do you think? I would say misplacing a child has to be worse for anyone, including him.
It seems it was a mix up ....a bit rough though that two parents and a security team leave a kid behind.
I wouldn't want that security team looking after me thats for sure Do you need a security team?
There will have been two or three teams - close protection on the target, possibly a screen team on the route , and probably a team on the pick up / drop off points.
It's their job to watch for bandits, not to count children - they'll kind of assume cam and sam will know how many kids they have and where they are..."What a silly question. I am glad we have people like you to tell us how things work, where would we be without all this indepth info.
(PS my post was flippant, I didn't really need to know how you think things will work with the PM's security....although I am guessing it wouldn't be public knowledge anyway ) | |||
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"He got home and realised he had left his 8 year old daughter in the pub. Someone call social services!" He is remodelling himself on Frank Gallagher and he always kept his kids.  | |||
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"cameron is deemed fit to look after our country ,yet he cant look after his own kid any one else would have been charged with neglect one law for those and such as those another law for the rest of us " ok question for the parents that hve admited to losing thir kids and calling the police out....were you charged with neglect?? bet they werent!! a family went to portugal and left their 3 kids alone while they went out for a nice meal - one even got taken yet the other 2 have remained with their parents. goes to show you that not all parents answer to social services even when actual neglect happens
what dear old David did was nothing more than many of us mere mortals have admited to doing, and they have been treated exaclty the same | |||
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"Mods don't have an issue with who contributes as long as it within the rules so I really don't see a need for the "tough" comment at all Needless and provocative " Lucky needless. | |||
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"Jeeze,you couldn't make it up could you and this twats in charge of the country. what a great example to his daughter and the nation
Better him than a brother who thinks nothing of knifing his sibling in the back.
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Do you think? I would say misplacing a child has to be worse for anyone, including him.
It seems it was a mix up ....a bit rough though that two parents and a security team leave a kid behind.
I wouldn't want that security team looking after me thats for sure Do you need a security team?
There will have been two or three teams - close protection on the target, possibly a screen team on the route , and probably a team on the pick up / drop off points.
It's their job to watch for bandits, not to count children - they'll kind of assume cam and sam will know how many kids they have and where they are...
What a silly question.
I am glad we have people like you to tell us how things work, where would we be without all this indepth info.
(PS my post was flippant, I didn't really need to know how you think things will work with the PM's security....although I am guessing it wouldn't be public knowledge anyway )"Of course I wasn't being flippant.... And it's easy to see how the PM's security teams work - watch them work... | |||
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"I got to say though ,I decided I dont like being manipulated by the Murdoch press no more,you got to ask ,why have the Sun sat on this story for 2 months.. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This | |||
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"I got to say though ,I decided I dont like being manipulated by the Murdoch press no more,you got to ask ,why have the Sun sat on this story for 2 months..
"This story was a 'banker' for the press. They can sit on certain stories and they won't age too quickly and as there were a lot of other more current events that would have aged quickly (Jubliee celebrations, Hodgson's appointment etc etc) they milked those stories first knowing they can wait for a quiet news day to release a relatively minor story about Cameron forgetting his kid in a pub. | |||
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poor wee nancy though! but really begs the question, why the hell didnt anyone notice the wee one wasnt there?now if i went to the pub and left a child behind im assuming i would have a visit from the s.s? ah but im not one of the elite im one of the dreadful underclass so should be punished! | |||
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"looks like the camerons been reading the kate and gerry guide to childcare......pm the hate mail saves clogging up the thread
poor wee nancy though! but really begs the question, why the hell didnt anyone notice the wee one wasnt there?now if i went to the pub and left a child behind im assuming i would have a visit from the s.s? ah but im not one of the elite im one of the dreadful underclass so should be punished! "No you wouldn't be visited by the SS because you would have gone back for your child as soon as you realised she wasn't in the ONE car you arrived in - so the short distance from the car park to the pub wouldn't have been noticed by anyone. Hammer the guy for leaving his kid but don't link it to him being being rich as it could have happened to anyone. I read posts like yours and all I can see is jealousy over what he has compared to what you haven't got. | |||
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"I got to say though ,I decided I dont like being manipulated by the Murdoch press no more,you got to ask ,why have the Sun sat on this story for 2 months..
This story was a 'banker' for the press. They can sit on certain stories and they won't age too quickly and as there were a lot of other more current events that would have aged quickly (Jubliee celebrations, Hodgson's appointment etc etc) they milked those stories first knowing they can wait for a quiet news day to release a relatively minor story about Cameron forgetting his kid in a pub."So nothing to do with it being a "focus the mind exercise" with Mr Cameron sitting in the hot seat at Levison on Thursday ,or am i getting too cynical in my old age,given the total incestuous relationship all politicians have had with the press and the "mafia" like actions of News Int in the last 10 years,nothing would surprise me anymore ,absolutely nothing. As it has traveled Internationally making news in many countries,i dont think you can call it a minor story,a minor story would be a small paragraph on page 5 + not a page one headline. | |||
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"I dont understand why do thay not have a nanny if so much on in there life ..." I think they'd face accusations of elitism if they employed a nanny. I get the impression that Samantha is a hands-on mum and would rather do it herself, but in this instance she thought the eldest child was with Cam, and vice versa. Personally, I'd have got security to radio the other car to make sure. | |||
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"It's a story that doesn't age though, which is why it was supressed until now. Read my post again PD." I did and you said it was a banker saved until a quiet news day ,,,it wasn't a quiet news day though, we had the euro bailout of Spain ,Brown and The current chancellor at Levison,the flooding ,Syria,a plethora of murders and the football quite the reverse in fact..... | |||
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"I dont understand why do thay not have a nanny if so much on in there life ... I think they'd face accusations of elitism if they employed a nanny. I get the impression that Samantha is a hands-on mum and would rather do it herself, but in this instance she thought the eldest child was with Cam, and vice versa. Personally, I'd have got security to radio the other car to make sure." she cant be a hands on mum to not know where her child is ...... in all my years with my 4 never did i have nothing like this .. we can all say if only i did this and that after .... it cant be easy as thay have alot on . It dont make her a bad mum getting help in my eyes ... just covers her when not around ... it could have end-up nasty a missing child like little Maddie comes to mind ... thats how i see it. | |||
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" And it's easy to see how the PM's security teams work - watch them work..." I think you have missed the point, I really am not that interested in how the security works | |||
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"looks like the camerons been reading the kate and gerry guide to childcare......pm the hate mail saves clogging up the thread
poor wee nancy though! but really begs the question, why the hell didnt anyone notice the wee one wasnt there?now if i went to the pub and left a child behind im assuming i would have a visit from the s.s? ah but im not one of the elite im one of the dreadful underclass so should be punished! "I am guessing by the threads about it that a lot of people have misplaced their child before, most kids get found , but unless they were already on an at risk register then I would imagine the SS wouldn't get involved.....unless someone can put us right? | |||
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" And it's easy to see how the PM's security teams work - watch them work... I think you have missed the point, I really am not that interested in how the security works "you told me you were gripped by the downing street security team ....oh hang on ...no you wanted to be gripped by a security team | |||
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"Ah now you are talking....oh maybe I am interested after all "i can see the daydream running through your head now ....all those burly detectives and ex sas guys ,come with us you naughty moderator and help us with our investigations ...lmao... | |||
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"Ah now you are talking....oh maybe I am interested after all
i can see the daydream running through your head now ....all those burly detectives and ex sas guys ,come with us you naughty moderator and help us with our investigations ...lmao..."Ooopps sorry, I was daydreaming then about burly security men and suits and didn't see you answer
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"Ah now you are talking....oh maybe I am interested after all
i can see the daydream running through your head now ....all those burly detectives and ex sas guys ,come with us you naughty moderator and help us with our investigations ...lmao...
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"I dont understand why do thay not have a nanny if so much on in there life ... and cant cope ... what about if there was some crazy person kid napped her ... it could have been so easy ... thay must now see this and i hope done somthing about it all." I think they have employed a nanny - from Australia. | |||
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"I dont understand why do thay not have a nanny if so much on in there life ... and cant cope ... what about if there was some crazy person kid napped her ... it could have been so easy ... thay must now see this and i hope done somthing about it all. I think they have employed a nanny - from Australia." well i am glad as the children have to come first no matter who you are....I would think when thay go out even as a family everyone would like a peace of them to be seen to be in the in crowed and cant be easy even if she wish to be a hands on mum. | |||
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"I dont understand why do thay not have a nanny if so much on in there life ... and cant cope ... what about if there was some crazy person kid napped her ... it could have been so easy ... thay must now see this and i hope done somthing about it all. I think they have employed a nanny - from Australia. well i am glad as the children have to come first no matter who you are....I would think when thay go out even as a family everyone would like a peace of them to be seen to be in the in crowed and cant be easy even if she wish to be a hands on mum." DC has always been a bit cavalier with his security,remember the early days dismissing the out riders and going walkabout without guards,he has to understand his family are now very much a target for extremists and anti govt malcontents. I hope its been a bit of a wake up call to be honest,like one of the papers in the states said "can you imagine this happening with obama's kids" ,i am glad he took it on the chin taking full responsibility, rather than the blame game with his security team. I am sure it will never happen again. | |||
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"I dont understand why do thay not have a nanny if so much on in there life ... and cant cope ... what about if there was some crazy person kid napped her ... it could have been so easy ... thay must now see this and i hope done somthing about it all. I think they have employed a nanny - from Australia." Do Australian Nanny's do things differently? | |||
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"I dont understand why do thay not have a nanny if so much on in there life ... and cant cope ... what about if there was some crazy person kid napped her ... it could have been so easy ... thay must now see this and i hope done somthing about it all. I think they have employed a nanny - from Australia. I don't think so but they couldn't find anyone they liked here so went global. I think Cameron inter_iewed her on skype after Sam had chosen her. Do Australian Nanny's do things differently? " | |||
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"I dont understand why do thay not have a nanny if so much on in there life ... and cant cope ... what about if there was some crazy person kid napped her ... it could have been so easy ... thay must now see this and i hope done somthing about it all. I think they have employed a nanny - from Australia. I don't think so but they couldn't find anyone they liked here so went global. I think Cameron inter_iewed her on skype after Sam had chosen her. Do Australian Nanny's do things differently? "It makes you smile when Cameron always goes on about immigrants don't you think. | |||
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"I dont understand why do thay not have a nanny if so much on in there life ... and cant cope ... what about if there was some crazy person kid napped her ... it could have been so easy ... thay must now see this and i hope done somthing about it all. I think they have employed a nanny - from Australia. I don't think so but they couldn't find anyone they liked here so went global. I think Cameron inter_iewed her on skype after Sam had chosen her. Do Australian Nanny's do things differently?
It makes you smile when Cameron always goes on about immigrants don't you think. "fair point | |||
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"I dont understand why do thay not have a nanny if so much on in there life ... and cant cope ... what about if there was some crazy person kid napped her ... it could have been so easy ... thay must now see this and i hope done somthing about it all. I think they have employed a nanny - from Australia. I don't think so but they couldn't find anyone they liked here so went global. I think Cameron inter_iewed her on skype after Sam had chosen her. Do Australian Nanny's do things differently?
It makes you smile when Cameron always goes on about immigrants don't you think. "He says that to court the public but somehow him and the rest of his cronies like minimum wage foreign nationals to work for them. Tory's like skilled people on the cheep its good for the wallet. | |||
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"It's a story that doesn't age though, which is why it was supressed until now. Read my post again PD. I did and you said it was a banker saved until a quiet news day ,,,it wasn't a quiet news day though, we had the euro bailout of Spain ,Brown and The current chancellor at Levison,the flooding ,Syria,a plethora of murders and the football quite the reverse in fact..... " Spain (or one of the others) is ALWAYS in the news re the Euro Brown is hardly worth a mention, and definately OLD news The flooding was last week Syria people are bored to death with ...and we got a draw against France - big deal. News-wise, it was a quiet enough day to bring it alive with Cameron's mishap. | |||
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"Flooding is this week, 50 places are on flood alert and people are still in a mess with the weekends floods....so it is now "Yes I know it's ongoing but it was big news last week. The media _iew things slightly different to you and me and they categorise stories as to the mileage they can get out of them. I'd bet quite a few kids still get savaged by dogs every week but it's old news so they don't run them. | |||
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"It's a story that doesn't age though, which is why it was supressed until now. Read my post again PD. I did and you said it was a banker saved until a quiet news day ,,,it wasn't a quiet news day though, we had the euro bailout of Spain ,Brown and The current chancellor at Levison,the flooding ,Syria,a plethora of murders and the football quite the reverse in fact..... Spain (or one of the others) is ALWAYS in the news re the Euro Brown is hardly worth a mention, and definately OLD news The flooding was last week Syria people are bored to death with ...and we got a draw against France - big deal. News-wise, it was a quiet enough day to bring it alive with Cameron's mishap." its interesting even the AP news service think there is more to the timing,than meets the eye and created linkage between the two events in there newswire service reported by papers overseas,i personally believe the timing of this is not the result of a slow news day ,(especially as it actually wasn't a slow news day at all). if you think floods ,pestilence and a major public inquiry on media and political corruption in this country are slow news days i don't know what you would consider a fast news day. from AP news service .... The incident was first reported in Rupert Murdoch's tabloid newspaper the Sun in the week that Cameron is due to give evidence at Britain's media ethics inquiry. Newspaper executives declined to specify how the story came to the newspaper's attention, and the pub telephone was not answered Monday. Britain's contentious press took a generally bemused attitude toward the high-profile parenting lapse, although the Guardian newspaper did suggest the prime minister may be too relaxed for his own good at a time of great crisis in the global economy. | |||
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"Flooding is this week, 50 places are on flood alert and people are still in a mess with the weekends floods....so it is now
Yes I know it's ongoing but it was big news last week. The media _iew things slightly different to you and me and they categorise stories as to the mileage they can get out of them. I'd bet quite a few kids still get savaged by dogs every week but it's old news so they don't run them."Isn't Cameron about to answer question at an inquiry this week? Great smokescreen if he is. | |||
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"Ss wouldn't have been called even if he had been a normal poor person. I know this as i lost my daughter on a holiday outing. I was in a state... And I kept saying what sort of mother was I to lose my little girl. The police told me It's a daily occurrence down by the beach that a child is lost. I've lost a child in a shop before too.. and once when I had all the kids and a friends brood too .. got off the train. Did a head count.. then realised we had counted someone else's child. We had to get them to escort the 11 year old back from the next station. It happens and was only news worthy because it was who it was. Cali " Ta for answering about the SS....I would imagine if SS was called after every child wandered off they would be realllllyyy busy. Sorry but I did at counting someone else's child in on the head count. | |||
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"could simply be the 'murdoch's' letting cameron know that they still have their tentacles (albeit slimy fecking ones)at the 'highest level'.. " After John Majors evidence at Levison today (where he came across with loads of cred) I have to agree ,he said Murdoch senior sat opposite him and stated clearly ,"if you want the support of the Sun and my organization at the next election you will change your policies over Europe" We knew it went on, but to have a former PM say he was shocked at an individual trying to tell a acting PM what to do and how angry he was ..made me angry.. Thankfully John Major had the credibility and honor to do right by the country and declined the offer. He has become a top bloke in my eyes. | |||
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"could simply be the 'murdoch's' letting cameron know that they still have their tentacles (albeit slimy fecking ones)at the 'highest level'.. After John Majors evidence at Levison today (where he came across with loads of cred) I have to agree ,he said Murdoch senior sat opposite him and stated clearly ,"if you want the support of the Sun and my organization at the next election you will change your policies over Europe" We knew it went on, but to have a former PM say he was shocked at an individual trying to tell a acting PM what to do and how angry he was ..made me angry.. Thankfully John Major had the credibility and honor to do right by the country and declined the offer. He has become a top bloke in my eyes. " I also thought he came across well today, not a fan but he was honest | |||
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"could simply be the 'murdoch's' letting cameron know that they still have their tentacles (albeit slimy fecking ones)at the 'highest level'.. After John Majors evidence at Levison today (where he came across with loads of cred) I have to agree ,he said Murdoch senior sat opposite him and stated clearly ,"if you want the support of the Sun and my organization at the next election you will change your policies over Europe" We knew it went on, but to have a former PM say he was shocked at an individual trying to tell a acting PM what to do and how angry he was ..made me angry.. Thankfully John Major had the credibility and honor to do right by the country and declined the offer. He has become a top bloke in my eyes. I also thought he came across well today, not a fan but he was honest" well you know View i question all the info we have about these people now as we have clearly been manipulated for years by murdoch I sort of always suspected it, but i really had no idea until Levison that his influence subverted democracy so much. I am angry that no one took him on before to put a stop to it,its like Reggie and Ronny Kray took over parliament . Major for me always came across as a grey man with no personality and was in the job as a holding leader ,but listening to him today ,he was intelligent astute and above all came over as honest sincere and well meaning,quite rare in the era of the soundbite | |||
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"Major for me always came across as a grey man with no personality and was in the job as a holding leader ,but listening to him today ,he was intelligent astute and above all came over as honest sincere and well meaning,quite rare in the era of the soundbite" That's pretty much how I _iewed the guy, and in some respects Spitting Image portrayed him as that to such an extent that us plebs thought they must know him better than we do and a lot of people bought the lie, it seems. When someone is working diligently in the background without creating too much of a fuss those are the ones probably doing the best work. It's just the media like to have 'up and at em' leaders to write about - how else could someone like George Bush Jnr get elected otherwise. | |||
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