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"I was shocked when I watched the Panorama programme about racism in the Ukraine and Poland, but even more shocked to find those countries denying they are racist. Why oh why was this football event cancelled or held elsewhere? How long before there is trouble?" To say you were shocked by it illustrates a certain amount of ignorance. Why is this only becoming an issue now? Ukraine has had this kind of thing going on long before the tournament was announced. Distasteful and unpleasant yes but shocking no. People don't seem to know what the actual meaning of words like shocking and fantastic. I guess everyone is going to be 'shocked' all over again when Russia host it in 2018. | |||
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"I was shocked when I watched the Panorama programme about racism in the Ukraine and Poland, but even more shocked to find those countries denying they are racist. Why oh why was this football event cancelled or held elsewhere? How long before there is trouble? To say you were shocked by it illustrates a certain amount of ignorance. Why is this only becoming an issue now? Ukraine has had this kind of thing going on long before the tournament was announced. Distasteful and unpleasant yes but shocking no. People don't seem to know what the actual meaning of words like shocking and fantastic. I guess everyone is going to be 'shocked' all over again when Russia host it in 2018." Excuse me but yes I was shocked, not by the amount of racism but the fact that once Panorama was aired Euro 2012 is still going on in those countries. I do know the meanings and I do know that a pathetic football game is not worth risking lives. | |||
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"I'm fairly sure there was the same kind of speculation before the 2010 world cup and there was no trouble whatsoever (or at least very little). " But it isn't speculation this time it's fact. I hope and pray there is no trouble. | |||
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"I wasn't arguing with anyone. " By your very postings here it can be read between the lines that your attitude is very negative. Again, I won't be getting into any arguments/conversations with you about racism in the Ukraine or Poland. All I will ask is when was the last time there was a huge football tournament held in either of those countries? | |||
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"but if you look hard enough, you'll find undesirable elements everywhere if you look hard enough." This is what happens when I ramble. I could fucking kick myself. Tautologous statements are tautologous | |||
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"You just think I'm being negative because I'm disagreeing with you a bit. You could say the same about south africa. I guess we'll have to wait and see." answer my question - when was the last time the Ukraine held a huge football tournament? Nope you can disagree with me all you like, you sound very negative and thats how it reads! | |||
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"If you're refusing to get into arguments, what's the point in having a thread? The programme was eye-opening, but not really surprising. I mean, c'mon, we're in England, our football hooligans are world-renowned (perhaps "renowned" isn't the word) - countries lay on extra police whenever we play - even Poland! Racism always seems to crop up when football is involved - much moreso than any other sport I can think of, so if you combine the two, Racist hooligans being connected to football isn't really a massive step. I agree that the denial was quite surprising - and almost comically blatant: "No, they're not doing a Nazi salute, they're all pointing..with their right arms..in the air...", and neo-nazis are not what you'd expect from Poland (unless they have a HUGE sense of irony), but the fact there's violent racism? Not so surprising. Hopefully UEFA are right, and hosting Euro 2012 will bring the spotlight down on the issue in a way that'll either expose these people for what they are, or make them behave, but somehow I doubt it. Remember how Euro '96 eliminated hooliganism from English football? doesn't work like that. UEFA should have looked more deeply into the culture of the host nation's fans before picking one, but if you look hard enough, you'll find undesirable elements everywhere if you look hard enough. Cancelling the tournament or hosting it elsewhere won't help. Maybe if we built a pitch on a platform in the Atlantic and broadcast it from there, with no fans around at all, the problem would go away." Threads are not always created to have arguments. And although I mentioned Euro 2012, why is it acceptable to carry on with this in the Ukraine when it has been highlighted about the racism? Who will be responsible when they have death on their hands? | |||
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"You just think I'm being negative because I'm disagreeing with you a bit. You could say the same about south africa. I guess we'll have to wait and see. answer my question - when was the last time the Ukraine held a huge football tournament? Nope you can disagree with me all you like, you sound very negative and thats how it reads!" I thought you weren't arguing? Never but THE SAME was said of south africa. I get annoyed by people who think their opinion is fact. | |||
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"You just think I'm being negative because I'm disagreeing with you a bit. You could say the same about south africa. I guess we'll have to wait and see. answer my question - when was the last time the Ukraine held a huge football tournament? Nope you can disagree with me all you like, you sound very negative and thats how it reads! I thought you weren't arguing? Never but THE SAME was said of south africa. I get annoyed by people who think their opinion is fact. There you go again, negativity and argumentative. I don't think my opinions are fact that's why I asked you a question. And as I thought, Ukraine has never hosted anything like this before thanks for answering. " | |||
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"Would be a pretty dull and pointless thread if everyone were to just mindlessly agree with you." Absolutely, couldn't agree more! Now as I have a life I will love you and leave you, bye x | |||
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"even later with my prediction but i think russia will be 2-0 up after half an hour" | |||
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"even later with my prediction but i think russia will be 2-0 up after half an hour" Fuck me you're good! | |||
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"even later with my prediction but i think russia will be 2-0 up after half an hour Fuck me you're good! " it's a gift | |||
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"even later with my prediction but i think russia will be 2-0 up after half an hour Fuck me you're good! it's a gift" Do you do weddings? Barmitzvah's? | |||
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"You just think I'm being negative because I'm disagreeing with you a bit. You could say the same about south africa. I guess we'll have to wait and see." I've added to an rr thread and got into an arguement . Sad I know x you'd think I'd know better x got too much going on at home at the mo to be worrying bout footie x let's hope everyone has a good time x | |||
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"even later with my prediction but i think russia will be 2-0 up after half an hour Fuck me you're good! it's a gift Do you do weddings? Barmitzvah's? " yes but can get bit blue after 9 o'clock | |||
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"also predict still 2-0 at half time" ok youve already got the barmitzvah gig, dont milk it... | |||
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"also predict still 2-0 at half time ok youve already got the barmitzvah gig, dont milk it..." i've got to make as much of my gift while i still have it | |||
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"who cares about chants get on with the footy;poland and russia never having had the world cup or euros deserve a go .stop being so pc let it go we are the only ones carping on" That would be why Michel Platini has had a lot to say on the matter too then huh? | |||
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"who cares about chants get on with the footy;poland and russia never having had the world cup or euros deserve a go .stop being so pc let it go we are the only ones carping on That would be why Michel Platini has had a lot to say on the matter too then huh?" only when the press get at him stayed off the subject | |||
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"I was going to predict 3-1 as well..." but I would have been wrong - my crystal ball is playing up tonight.... | |||
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"I was going to predict 3-1 as well..." Who to? | |||
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"I was going to predict 3-1 as well... Who to? " Man United | |||
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"I was going to predict 3-1 as well... Who to? Man United " Slam dunk. 4-1 to the Ruskies. Ta very muchly. | |||
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"Game 3/31 Holland v Denmark The Danes have totally fucked up my prediction and are 1-0 up already. 2-1 to Denmark I reckon (hope)." i think 2-1 to holland or 1-1 | |||
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"Game 3/31 Holland v Denmark The Danes have totally fucked up my prediction and are 1-0 up already. 2-1 to Denmark I reckon (hope)." 2-1 to Holland | |||
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"I was shocked when I watched the Panorama programme about racism in the Ukraine and Poland, but even more shocked to find those countries denying they are racist. Why oh why was this football event cancelled or held elsewhere? How long before there is trouble? To say you were shocked by it illustrates a certain amount of ignorance. Why is this only becoming an issue now? Ukraine has had this kind of thing going on long before the tournament was announced. Distasteful and unpleasant yes but shocking no. People don't seem to know what the actual meaning of words like shocking and fantastic. I guess everyone is going to be 'shocked' all over again when Russia host it in 2018." Most English people are completely ignorant about what goes on in countries other than the ones to which they go on holiday. I would be willing to bet that most people probably don't know where Ukraine is never mind what goes on there. The one good thing about any international sporting event in Ukraine is that any hooligans who fall foul of the Police there will be dealt with very firmly!!! | |||
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"think i'll leave it a bit until my germany v portugal prediction" see you in the 85th minute then.... | |||
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"think i'll leave it a bit until my germany v portugal prediction see you in the 85th minute then...." if one team is 5-0 up at half time i may predict in the 80th minute | |||
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"think i'll leave it a bit until my germany v portugal prediction see you in the 85th minute then.... if one team is 5-0 up at half time i may predict in the 80th minute" go onnnnn be a devil | |||
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"think i'll leave it a bit until my germany v portugal prediction see you in the 85th minute then.... if one team is 5-0 up at half time i may predict in the 80th minute go onnnnn be a devil" ok 2-0 germany but that's not my final answer | |||
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" ok 2-0 germany but that's not my final answer" Still have 50/50, phone a friend and ask the audience so take ya time | |||
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" ok 2-0 germany but that's not my final answer Still have 50/50, phone a friend and ask the audience so take ya time" give me an hour and a half? | |||
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"Is it me or have I just spotted Marty Feldman in the German team ?" if i was to fake my death i wouldn't be playing football in front of millions. unless he's hiding in plain sight? | |||
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"i say 0-0 at full time" looking like it. | |||
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"possibly finish 1-0 to gemany but thats not my final answer (unless it does finis 1-0 then it will be)" I can see why you're a copper. You have a nose for sniffing out the correct result. | |||
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"We're about as good at this as predicting the lottery numbers... " i'm 4/4 so far | |||
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"germany and denmark winning,will force holland and portugal,to go all out for the win on wednesday. should be good." Two strong teams will be exiting from this group no matter what and they're not in our half of the knockout stages for the next round. We'll face probably Spain or Italy if we win or come second in our group. | |||
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"I need to amend my prediction...." I knew you would. | |||
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"I need to amend my prediction.... I knew you would. " yeah yeah woteva | |||
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"honestly some people " Well ya never got 1-1 did ya hpm .. not so blimmin clever now huh? I reckon Ireland will win 21-8 in tonight's game. You watch. | |||
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"Game 7/31 The Big One: France v England A toughie this as France are undefeated in 21 games and are one of the in-form clubs of the moment. England go into tonight's game with little expectation (if you believe that bollocks you'll believe anything) but, with a new manager, crocked players and suspensions, and with this year being the Queen's Jubilee, and the London Olympics in a few week's time, the favour of the Gods, a couple of terrorist bombs in the French hotel, an English ref, linesmen and fouth & fifth officials, a big dollop of luck and generally hoping France falls into a deep pit - we just might win it. 2-1 to England. " and I was going to say the irish are delusional | |||
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"come on France" | |||
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"Game 8/31 Ukraine v Sweden Nobody to win. Draw please. Ta." you can have my prdiction...........just not yet | |||
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"erm did you not see that french supporter sleeping in the stands? says it all " he was a frenchman and expected his team to steamroll england for fecks sake!,when they could do that he decided the next best thing to seeing his team lose was to sleep through it as that is what the french do in the afternoon is it not?. i noticed the england fans were wide awake and singing though!. | |||
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"Game 8/31 Ukraine v Sweden Nobody to win. Draw please. Ta. you can have my prdiction...........just not yet" Am I too late to put my prediction in? | |||
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"Game 8/31 Ukraine v Sweden Nobody to win. Draw please. Ta. you can have my prdiction...........just not yet Am I too late to put my prediction in? " no it's ok i gave my prediction of the ireland match the day after | |||
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"Did anyone mention the ref in the first match on Friday being a cunt? Just wondering." Yes, you did, just now. And you're right, he was/is. Where ya been anyway, not seen you posting for a few weeks. | |||
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"Did anyone mention the ref in the first match on Friday being a cunt? Just wondering. Yes, you did, just now. And you're right, he was/is. Where ya been anyway, not seen you posting for a few weeks." I've been here. | |||
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"Did anyone mention the ref in the first match on Friday being a cunt? Just wondering. Yes, you did, just now. And you're right, he was/is. Where ya been anyway, not seen you posting for a few weeks. I've been here." Was thinking you had been culled....nice to see you posting again | |||
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"i think the czech will start the quicker of the two and take an early 2-0 lead" Hey, 1-0 to me, I got the score right! | |||
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"i think the czech will start the quicker of the two and take an early 2-0 lead Hey, 1-0 to me, I got the score right! " i thought it wold finish 2-1 too just forgot to say it out loud | |||
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"I was shocked when I watched the Panorama programme about racism in the Ukraine and Poland, but even more shocked to find those countries denying they are racist. Why oh why was this football event cancelled or held elsewhere? How long before there is trouble?" bloody football should be cancelled end of lol | |||
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"I was shocked when I watched the Panorama programme about racism in the Ukraine and Poland, but even more shocked to find those countries denying they are racist. Why oh why was this football event cancelled or held elsewhere? How long before there is trouble? bloody football should be cancelled end of lol " You have the free will, and the ability, to not watch it. | |||
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"erm did you not see that french supporter sleeping in the stands? says it all " I joined him here on the sofa...what a boring game...nodded off halfway through. | |||
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"Game 10/31 Poland v Russia, aka WW3'ish. It seems these two countries don't know the meaning of the word 'friendly' and their relative fans have been at each other's throats all day. Let's hope it's a good match and not too many casualties. 3-2 to Poland (home team advantage) p.s. ITV: sort ya fookin sound out ya cretins." Ill go 2-1 Russians. PS we're sorry about the sound and we are working on it | |||
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" Ill go 2-1 Russians. " And Mr Plod please note I said this BEFORE Russia scored the first goal. Just to avoid any future disputes... | |||
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"best game yet,two teams going for it." My crystal ball aint 'alf playing up | |||
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"best game yet,two teams going for it. My crystal ball aint 'alf playing up " did you have to mention alf. | |||
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"For Ronaldo to miss an open goal " and for bendtner to show the skills we taught him at birmingham city | |||
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"For Ronaldo to miss an open goal " Or Ronaldo,s shorts rip open..to reveal a pair of womens knickers | |||
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"For Ronaldo to miss an open goal Or Ronaldo,s shorts rip open..to reveal a pair of womens knickers" Hell yeah nice lacey ones | |||
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"Holland v Germany predictions? This should be a cracker" 2-1 after extra time. | |||
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"Holland v Germany predictions? This should be a cracker 2-1 after extra time. " i wouldn't bet on that with no chance of extra time | |||
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"Holland v Germany predictions? This should be a cracker 2-1 after extra time. i wouldn't bet on that with no chance of extra time" Wot? No penalties either? | |||
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"Holland v Germany predictions? This should be a cracker 2-1 after extra time. i wouldn't bet on that with no chance of extra time Wot? No penalties either?" no sadly not but at least the news at ten won't have to be moved | |||
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"Good luck Holland...... (can we have a fingers crossed emoticon?)" they're gonna need plenty of it | |||
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"Aww poor Ireland Or am I the only daft bugger watching 2 games a day? " it was always going to be an uphill struggle against spain.just hope this is as bad as it gets. | |||
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"Aww poor Ireland Or am I the only daft bugger watching 2 games a day? " don't worry i'm wth you. i think ireland will lose by at least 3 | |||
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"Aww poor Ireland Or am I the only daft bugger watching 2 games a day? it was always going to be an uphill struggle against spain.just hope this is as bad as it gets." Yep but I always have a soft spot for Ireland, bless 'em | |||
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"its gonna make the predictor league interesting if it stays 3-0" bollocks..4-0 why didn't i keep my fat gob shut? | |||
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"Aww poor Ireland Or am I the only daft bugger watching 2 games a day? don't worry i'm wth you. i think ireland will lose by at least 3" Oooh at least | |||
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"ok at least 4" Wow your crystal balls are firing on all cylinders tonight eh? | |||
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"ok at least 4 Wow your crystal balls are firing on all cylinders tonight eh?" i have very talented balls | |||
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