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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it?" No. We wouldn't want to give Trump any satisfaction. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? No. We wouldn't want to give Trump any satisfaction. " Not sure it's got anything to do with Trump.. that's just how it's done over there.. | |||
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"So don't eat it. Buy your chicken that states it's British and has the red tractor symbol on it." I guess the issue is it'll work it's way into food chain in other ways. If it's cheap enough then it'll pop up in other places like takeaways, ready meals etc. Course the answer to that is don't eat takeaways etc. etc. but it's not a problem people should worry about. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? No. We wouldn't want to give Trump any satisfaction. Not sure it's got anything to do with Trump.. that's just how it's done over there.." It's one of his conditions in a trade deal he wants to do with the UK. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? No. We wouldn't want to give Trump any satisfaction. " I think you need an hour off the MSM. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it?" it’s a bloody travesty that it will be allowed into this country at all. Just a quick google search of why the chicken is chlorinated will let you know why. | |||
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"So don't eat it. Buy your chicken that states it's British and has the red tractor symbol on it." The Americans also want no labelling of country of origin as part of the negotiations...if so it could end up in curries , sandwiches, etc etc and we would never know we were eating it ...if this happens I for one will be outside downing street with an inflatable chicken throwing nuggets .. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? No. We wouldn't want to give Trump any satisfaction. I think you need an hour off the MSM. " Oh no! Have I read something from reputable journalists that doesn't align with Trump propaganda?! Let's call it fake then, instead of what it really is then - something that shows him negatively. That way we can live in denial and don't have to deal with it. It'smmuch easier than actually answering criticism. If you have a demonstrably better source for accurate news then do let us know. | |||
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"I don't know much about it, but chlorine would probs blow off of any organic substance pretty quickly. Ppl love to scare others with stories of "chemicals" but I'm not too scurred myself...... Nobody ever seems to worry about the chlorine in the salt they throw on their chicken, innit..... " Sodium and chlorine as separate elements are nothing like salt...try drinking hydrogen...which obviously makes up most of water. It would kill you...if you didn't explode .. | |||
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"I don't know much about it, but chlorine would probs blow off of any organic substance pretty quickly. Ppl love to scare others with stories of "chemicals" but I'm not too scurred myself...... Nobody ever seems to worry about the chlorine in the salt they throw on their chicken, innit..... Sodium and chlorine as separate elements are nothing like salt...try drinking hydrogen...which obviously makes up most of water. It would kill you...if you didn't explode .. " Are you a chemist? | |||
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"I don't know much about it, but chlorine would probs blow off of any organic substance pretty quickly. Ppl love to scare others with stories of "chemicals" but I'm not too scurred myself...... Nobody ever seems to worry about the chlorine in the salt they throw on their chicken, innit..... Sodium and chlorine as separate elements are nothing like salt...try drinking hydrogen...which obviously makes up most of water. It would kill you...if you didn't explode .. Are you a chemist?" I have a masters degree in combustion chemistry but I'm not a chemist.. | |||
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"It's just that I actually am. I was pointing out how public see the word chlorine and think barrel bomb... " I think they just think crap quality...I do anyway... | |||
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"It's just that I actually am. I was pointing out how public see the word chlorine and think barrel bomb... I think they just think crap quality...I do anyway..." Perhaps you do, because you are fortunate in that you can make an informed decision based on your knowledge and studies. Others aren't so fortunate and it becomes a Brexit issue rather than a knowledge issue with glow in the dark chicken memes, innit... | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it?" We already eat chlorinated salad! Why not have the chicken to go with it. | |||
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"I think people are missing the point a little bit here, if I may say. Chlorine isn’t really the problem, it’s used in an appropriate way for our benefit in many situations. The fact that it needs to be used means the chicken bodies are muckier than they should be which means the welfare levels the chickens haven’t been as high as they should. " Hallelujah! If only ppl got that - why even mention chlorine, why not just say lower welfare standard? | |||
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"If anyone is unsure, have a read about WHY it's chlorinated. It's disgusting. Chlorine isn't the main issue, it's why they have to do it that is the hideous part. When I lived in America I saw it first hand and I never ate chicken again while I was there. Same with their pork that will be flooding the UK market, full of chemicals that were previously banned here. " Well actually the chlorine is there to cover up two different things.... The lower standard of food hygiene.... and the fact that in the US it is legal to feed chickens antibiotics as part of the process so they don’t lose as much stock thru illness.... The reason why the EU doesn’t allow this into the human food system is the theory that if you are eating things with antibiotics in it, when you do actually need the stuff it becomes less effective as you grow an immunity to it | |||
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"It's just that I actually am. I was pointing out how public see the word chlorine and think barrel bomb... I think they just think crap quality...I do anyway... Perhaps you do, because you are fortunate in that you can make an informed decision based on your knowledge and studies. Others aren't so fortunate and it becomes a Brexit issue rather than a knowledge issue with glow in the dark chicken memes, innit... " I think the knowledge makes it a Brexit issue, you dont need to be an expert I think , it's widely accepted, indeed the Americans will say it, they have a different regime for controlling food standards, less regulation and a reliance on consumer information and the threat of legal action if someone is hurt etc .. to motivate them to maintain standards.. Culturally we just want something better ...I hope.. | |||
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"Pretty soon we could be flooded with it.. " If no-one buys it...as is our choice....then they will soon stop wasting money on bringing it in. Simples! Think of how many brands etc have fallen out of favour and simply disappeared. The whole argument is a non-starter. | |||
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"No I woudlnt, but if the uk get a deal with the usa, uk would get them as the standards will drop as they dont have the same quality checks as the eu have." We have been eating chlorinated salad in this country for years but some people prefer to ignore that because it does no good to their political agenda. | |||
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"Pretty soon we could be flooded with it.. If no-one buys it...as is our choice....then they will soon stop wasting money on bringing it in. Simples! Think of how many brands etc have fallen out of favour and simply disappeared. The whole argument is a non-starter." Tru dat | |||
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"Pretty soon we could be flooded with it.. If no-one buys it...as is our choice....then they will soon stop wasting money on bringing it in. Simples! Think of how many brands etc have fallen out of favour and simply disappeared. The whole argument is a non-starter. Tru dat " But we will all carry on eating chlorinated salad and say absolutely nothing? This seams to be a familiar pattern over the years with people ignoring certain stuff because it does their cause no good. | |||
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"Absolutely not. Fortunately the EU also prohibits the sale of beef raised on recombinant bovine growth hormone as well If that crap is ever brought here, people should demand it's labeled so i'll know what to avoid." | |||
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"Pretty soon we could be flooded with it.. If no-one buys it...as is our choice....then they will soon stop wasting money on bringing it in. Simples! Think of how many brands etc have fallen out of favour and simply disappeared. The whole argument is a non-starter." When you buy a preprepsred meal, a sandwich, kebab,restaurant you have no idea where the chicken comes from..this is why not having labels of origin is in the negotiating table..you will not be able to choose as you simply wont know...unless you avoid all chicken except where you can buy in the butchers etc ...its a very strong arguement...the choice argument is nonsense I think, certainly in the usa, the information is poor, there is loads of advertising to tempt you, it's very cheap and the consumer unknowkegeable...and just used to crap standards of food quality.. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it?" You're next thread should be about chlorinated salad we have been eating for many years? But I think you will brush over that one? | |||
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"Pretty soon we could be flooded with it.. If no-one buys it...as is our choice....then they will soon stop wasting money on bringing it in. Simples! Think of how many brands etc have fallen out of favour and simply disappeared. The whole argument is a non-starter. Tru dat But we will all carry on eating chlorinated salad and say absolutely nothing? This seams to be a familiar pattern over the years with people ignoring certain stuff because it does their cause no good. " chlorinated salad is not the same at all | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it?" There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something?" I think you are..see above | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something?" Too fucking right you are..!! | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something?" Yes... the antibiotics! It’s kinda a biggie | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something?" Yes we all no how stringent the Eu are! We're we not getting horse meat a few years ago from France? | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes... the antibiotics! It’s kinda a biggie" Why? | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes... the antibiotics! It’s kinda a biggie Why? " yes it’s nothing to actually do with chlorinating the chickens it’s the reason for having to do it. Basically the US food hygiene standards are so low they have to do it as basically all If the chickens are diseased | |||
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"Pretty soon we could be flooded with it.. If no-one buys it...as is our choice....then they will soon stop wasting money on bringing it in. Simples! Think of how many brands etc have fallen out of favour and simply disappeared. The whole argument is a non-starter. Tru dat But we will all carry on eating chlorinated salad and say absolutely nothing? This seams to be a familiar pattern over the years with people ignoring certain stuff because it does their cause no good. chlorinated salad is not the same at all" Obvsiouly it isn't! It does your cause no good at all does it? | |||
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"If the USA treats it's chicken like it does black guys passing duff $20 bills, then do you really want anything to do with it? " It's the only possible comparison i guess.. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes we all no how stringent the Eu are! We're we not getting horse meat a few years ago from France? " The difference being that the horsemeat scandal showed companies operating illegally. That's why it was a scandal. It's not that the EU doesn't have standards, it's that those standards were being broken. But that aside, you definitely are missing something. It's a point that's been made various times in the thread. The chicken is being chlorinated because the hygiene standards in the raising of the poultry is lower. It's emblematic of the poor animal care and hygiene standards which typify US factory farming. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes... the antibiotics! It’s kinda a biggie Why? yes it’s nothing to actually do with chlorinating the chickens it’s the reason for having to do it. Basically the US food hygiene standards are so low they have to do it as basically all If the chickens are diseased " Is this why all the Americans are dead now? I wondered what had killed them. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes... the antibiotics! It’s kinda a biggie Why? yes it’s nothing to actually do with chlorinating the chickens it’s the reason for having to do it. Basically the US food hygiene standards are so low they have to do it as basically all If the chickens are diseased Is this why all the Americans are dead now? I wondered what had killed them. " there food poisoning and death from food poisoning levels are higher than pretty much rest of the world | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes we all no how stringent the Eu are! We're we not getting horse meat a few years ago from France? The difference being that the horsemeat scandal showed companies operating illegally. That's why it was a scandal. It's not that the EU doesn't have standards, it's that those standards were being broken. But that aside, you definitely are missing something. It's a point that's been made various times in the thread. The chicken is being chlorinated because the hygiene standards in the raising of the poultry is lower. It's emblematic of the poor animal care and hygiene standards which typify US factory farming. " No I can quite clearly see the agenda being set! And the tons of chlorinated salad we eat every year? | |||
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"Pretty soon we could be flooded with it.. If no-one buys it...as is our choice....then they will soon stop wasting money on bringing it in. Simples! Think of how many brands etc have fallen out of favour and simply disappeared. The whole argument is a non-starter. When you buy a preprepsred meal, a sandwich, kebab,restaurant you have no idea where the chicken comes from..this is why not having labels of origin is in the negotiating table..you will not be able to choose as you simply wont know...unless you avoid all chicken except where you can buy in the butchers etc ...its a very strong arguement...the choice argument is nonsense I think, certainly in the usa, the information is poor, there is loads of advertising to tempt you, it's very cheap and the consumer unknowkegeable...and just used to crap standards of food quality.. " Do you not think restaurants and takeaways could use the fact that they only use british or EU meat as a selling point? It would be quite funny for a british chicken chain to overtake kfc as it promised to only use british chicken. I think as selling point, though its by no means unique but it is certainly strong. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes we all no how stringent the Eu are! We're we not getting horse meat a few years ago from France? The difference being that the horsemeat scandal showed companies operating illegally. That's why it was a scandal. It's not that the EU doesn't have standards, it's that those standards were being broken. But that aside, you definitely are missing something. It's a point that's been made various times in the thread. The chicken is being chlorinated because the hygiene standards in the raising of the poultry is lower. It's emblematic of the poor animal care and hygiene standards which typify US factory farming. No I can quite clearly see the agenda being set! And the tons of chlorinated salad we eat every year? " Hahaha this must be what? The fourth time you've brought up chlorinated salad? Like a dog with a chlorinated bone! No agenda, just pointing out the US have lower food standards than the EU | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes we all no how stringent the Eu are! We're we not getting horse meat a few years ago from France? The difference being that the horsemeat scandal showed companies operating illegally. That's why it was a scandal. It's not that the EU doesn't have standards, it's that those standards were being broken. But that aside, you definitely are missing something. It's a point that's been made various times in the thread. The chicken is being chlorinated because the hygiene standards in the raising of the poultry is lower. It's emblematic of the poor animal care and hygiene standards which typify US factory farming. No I can quite clearly see the agenda being set! And the tons of chlorinated salad we eat every year? " Hmm. Premade salad comes with stronger risks of contamination and food poisoning. Chlorine isn't by itself the devil, it's what's behind it. Reducing the risks of salads that carry unacceptably high risks of food poisoning but are otherwise safe? Probably good. Concealing the dangers of lower food and animal welfare standards? Probably bad. Apples and oranges. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes we all no how stringent the Eu are! We're we not getting horse meat a few years ago from France? The difference being that the horsemeat scandal showed companies operating illegally. That's why it was a scandal. It's not that the EU doesn't have standards, it's that those standards were being broken. But that aside, you definitely are missing something. It's a point that's been made various times in the thread. The chicken is being chlorinated because the hygiene standards in the raising of the poultry is lower. It's emblematic of the poor animal care and hygiene standards which typify US factory farming. No I can quite clearly see the agenda being set! And the tons of chlorinated salad we eat every year? " You are not listening... it’s not the chlorine as such! It the process for why it is washed in chlorine to cover up that is the issue | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes we all no how stringent the Eu are! We're we not getting horse meat a few years ago from France? The difference being that the horsemeat scandal showed companies operating illegally. That's why it was a scandal. It's not that the EU doesn't have standards, it's that those standards were being broken. But that aside, you definitely are missing something. It's a point that's been made various times in the thread. The chicken is being chlorinated because the hygiene standards in the raising of the poultry is lower. It's emblematic of the poor animal care and hygiene standards which typify US factory farming. No I can quite clearly see the agenda being set! And the tons of chlorinated salad we eat every year? You are not listening... it’s not the chlorine as such! It the process for why it is washed in chlorine to cover up that is the issue " Sometimes it does seem like "not getting it" is a tactic. | |||
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"At the end of day the chicken will end up in where? Pies? KFC? Cat food? How about take responsibility for your intake of shit food. Buy British." and eat Frey Bentos, Pot noodle and Greg's? | |||
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"It’s not for me quite picky what I put in my mouth. Has anyone seen the chickens in a can that fall out in jelly like dog food.... raaallph " most stuff on the shelves these day is a "product". If it didnt exist 150 years ago I'm dubious! | |||
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"I'm not too sure guys but I THINK we might already be eating chlorinated salad... " Yes, we are! | |||
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"I'm not too sure guys but I THINK we might already be eating chlorinated salad... " I'm confused, I thought this was the chicken thread. | |||
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"At the end of day the chicken will end up in where? Pies? KFC? Cat food? How about take responsibility for your intake of shit food. Buy British. and eat Frey Bentos, Pot noodle and Greg's? " Good point, they deserve all they get. | |||
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"It's almost as if we have no personal choice in what we eat these days, and no scientific and regulatory experts.... " Yeah, because who cares about enforcing food hygiene standards and factory farms where the conditions are so bad that the US department of agriculture ignores concerns about faecal contamination to the point they get sued by a doctors group... | |||
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"It's almost as if we have no personal choice in what we eat these days, and no scientific and regulatory experts.... Yeah, because who cares about enforcing food hygiene standards and factory farms where the conditions are so bad that the US department of agriculture ignores concerns about faecal contamination to the point they get sued by a doctors group... " Hope you have a great day.... | |||
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"It's almost as if we have no personal choice in what we eat these days, and no scientific and regulatory experts.... Yeah, because who cares about enforcing food hygiene standards and factory farms where the conditions are so bad that the US department of agriculture ignores concerns about faecal contamination to the point they get sued by a doctors group... Hope you have a great day.... " You too | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes we all no how stringent the Eu are! We're we not getting horse meat a few years ago from France? The difference being that the horsemeat scandal showed companies operating illegally. That's why it was a scandal. It's not that the EU doesn't have standards, it's that those standards were being broken. But that aside, you definitely are missing something. It's a point that's been made various times in the thread. The chicken is being chlorinated because the hygiene standards in the raising of the poultry is lower. It's emblematic of the poor animal care and hygiene standards which typify US factory farming. No I can quite clearly see the agenda being set! And the tons of chlorinated salad we eat every year? Hahaha this must be what? The fourth time you've brought up chlorinated salad? Like a dog with a chlorinated bone! No agenda, just pointing out the US have lower food standards than the EU " Looking forward to my chlrorinated chicken! It will go very nicely with my chlrorinated salad and then washed down with a nice cup of tea! Made with my chlorinated tap water ofcourse! Non of that bottled shite for us! Yes that's the fifth time now? But I was'nt counting. | |||
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"It's almost as if we have no personal choice in what we eat these days, and no scientific and regulatory experts.... " Perhaps personal choice is constrained by the regulatory environment in which our choices are found, and scientific and regulatory experts make pronouncements within the environment they find themselves? And the bigger choices around regulation and (dare I say it) public health are sometimes made for political reasons that don't align with what's in the best interest of citizens? | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes we all no how stringent the Eu are! We're we not getting horse meat a few years ago from France? The difference being that the horsemeat scandal showed companies operating illegally. That's why it was a scandal. It's not that the EU doesn't have standards, it's that those standards were being broken. But that aside, you definitely are missing something. It's a point that's been made various times in the thread. The chicken is being chlorinated because the hygiene standards in the raising of the poultry is lower. It's emblematic of the poor animal care and hygiene standards which typify US factory farming. No I can quite clearly see the agenda being set! And the tons of chlorinated salad we eat every year? Hahaha this must be what? The fourth time you've brought up chlorinated salad? Like a dog with a chlorinated bone! No agenda, just pointing out the US have lower food standards than the EU Looking forward to my chlrorinated chicken! It will go very nicely with my chlrorinated salad and then washed down with a nice cup of tea! Made with my chlorinated tap water ofcourse! Non of that bottled shite for us! Yes that's the fifth time now? But I was'nt counting. " Sounds like a delicious meal feed but may I suggest skipping the tap water and taking a ladle to your local swimming pool for a maximum hit? | |||
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"It's almost as if we have no personal choice in what we eat these days, and no scientific and regulatory experts.... Perhaps personal choice is constrained by the regulatory environment in which our choices are found, and scientific and regulatory experts make pronouncements within the environment they find themselves? And the bigger choices around regulation and (dare I say it) public health are sometimes made for political reasons that don't align with what's in the best interest of citizens?" So instead if legislation and regulation we could hold a referendum maybe, innit... Seems odd to me that ppl on a sex site forum should dictate what we eat in preference to food scientists and industry experts. At the end of it all we all use our own hands to eat, so we choose from whatever choice there is, however limited that is. You could also argue there are clearly ppl in this thread who would demand their "right"to eat chlorinated chicken too, so how would that work when some ppl don't want it in the country? I think there are plenty of problems in the world lately without creating more.... Unpopular as ever, I do realise.... | |||
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"So don't eat it. Buy your chicken that states it's British and has the red tractor symbol on it." Not as simple as that, apparently USA want all these measures removed from packaging to give their crap chicken the best possible chance on the shelf! It is going to be an absolute minefield. | |||
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"Apparently it's safe as houses to eat but critics claim that animal rearing standards are compromised. Would you eat it? There's chlorine in drinking water. Don't see the difference to be honest? Am i missing something? Yes we all no how stringent the Eu are! We're we not getting horse meat a few years ago from France? The difference being that the horsemeat scandal showed companies operating illegally. That's why it was a scandal. It's not that the EU doesn't have standards, it's that those standards were being broken. But that aside, you definitely are missing something. It's a point that's been made various times in the thread. The chicken is being chlorinated because the hygiene standards in the raising of the poultry is lower. It's emblematic of the poor animal care and hygiene standards which typify US factory farming. No I can quite clearly see the agenda being set! And the tons of chlorinated salad we eat every year? Hahaha this must be what? The fourth time you've brought up chlorinated salad? Like a dog with a chlorinated bone! No agenda, just pointing out the US have lower food standards than the EU Looking forward to my chlrorinated chicken! It will go very nicely with my chlrorinated salad and then washed down with a nice cup of tea! Made with my chlorinated tap water ofcourse! Non of that bottled shite for us! Yes that's the fifth time now? But I was'nt counting. Sounds like a delicious meal feed but may I suggest skipping the tap water and taking a ladle to your local swimming pool for a maximum hit? " Excellent idea! The hubby says he's off down there in the morning with a couple of old rusty jerry cans. x | |||
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"It's almost as if we have no personal choice in what we eat these days, and no scientific and regulatory experts.... Perhaps personal choice is constrained by the regulatory environment in which our choices are found, and scientific and regulatory experts make pronouncements within the environment they find themselves? And the bigger choices around regulation and (dare I say it) public health are sometimes made for political reasons that don't align with what's in the best interest of citizens? So instead if legislation and regulation we could hold a referendum maybe, innit... Seems odd to me that ppl on a sex site forum should dictate what we eat in preference to food scientists and industry experts. At the end of it all we all use our own hands to eat, so we choose from whatever choice there is, however limited that is. You could also argue there are clearly ppl in this thread who would demand their "right"to eat chlorinated chicken too, so how would that work when some ppl don't want it in the country? I think there are plenty of problems in the world lately without creating more.... Unpopular as ever, I do realise.... " Or maybe adults are having a conversation and throwing ideas around, on a forum? That some may take to a more appropriate venue, that some might read and think about? I'm not saying that No 10 should listen to Fab. I'm saying these are, so far as I can see, the realities of the situation. The fact that I'm saying it here doesn't mean it carries any less weight than if I were saying it on (fictional as far as I know) fabseriouspolitics dot com. | |||
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"It's almost as if we have no personal choice in what we eat these days, and no scientific and regulatory experts.... Perhaps personal choice is constrained by the regulatory environment in which our choices are found, and scientific and regulatory experts make pronouncements within the environment they find themselves? And the bigger choices around regulation and (dare I say it) public health are sometimes made for political reasons that don't align with what's in the best interest of citizens? So instead if legislation and regulation we could hold a referendum maybe, innit... Seems odd to me that ppl on a sex site forum should dictate what we eat in preference to food scientists and industry experts. At the end of it all we all use our own hands to eat, so we choose from whatever choice there is, however limited that is. You could also argue there are clearly ppl in this thread who would demand their "right"to eat chlorinated chicken too, so how would that work when some ppl don't want it in the country? I think there are plenty of problems in the world lately without creating more.... Unpopular as ever, I do realise.... Or maybe adults are having a conversation and throwing ideas around, on a forum? That some may take to a more appropriate venue, that some might read and think about? I'm not saying that No 10 should listen to Fab. I'm saying these are, so far as I can see, the realities of the situation. The fact that I'm saying it here doesn't mean it carries any less weight than if I were saying it on (fictional as far as I know) fabseriouspolitics dot com." | |||
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"American = chicken - fat - trump - sexists - racist - corrupt - "dirty chemicals" = me no buy your dirty racists chicken shit! And that's not political at all.....? .....could always start instead by saying "hey friendly American dudes, let's be friends, could you please look after your animals better and then we'd love the eat them more often".... Why not come at it from a positive and inclusive angle? " I wouldn't want low-hygiene chicken if Obama or anyone else is in charge. This isn't about political alignment. I wouldn't care who's in the Whitehouse or Downing Street here. It's about the UK actively dropping standards. Right now we don't allow this stuff in our markets. I say again, last year a doctors group sued the US body who oversees farming standards (USDA) because that body would do nothing about faecal contamination in American meat. The USDA argued that "fecal contamination is a visible defect only". So I guess that means they encourage people to keep their eyes closed and keep eating crap! Not me thanks | |||
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"American = chicken - fat - trump - sexists - racist - corrupt - "dirty chemicals" = me no buy your dirty racists chicken shit! And that's not political at all.....? .....could always start instead by saying "hey friendly American dudes, let's be friends, could you please look after your animals better and then we'd love the eat them more often".... Why not come at it from a positive and inclusive angle? I wouldn't want low-hygiene chicken if Obama or anyone else is in charge. This isn't about political alignment. I wouldn't care who's in the Whitehouse or Downing Street here. It's about the UK actively dropping standards. Right now we don't allow this stuff in our markets. I say again, last year a doctors group sued the US body who oversees farming standards (USDA) because that body would do nothing about faecal contamination in American meat. The USDA argued that "fecal contamination is a visible defect only". So I guess that means they encourage people to keep their eyes closed and keep eating crap! Not me thanks " | |||
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"American = chicken - fat - trump - sexists - racist - corrupt - "dirty chemicals" = me no buy your dirty racists chicken shit! And that's not political at all.....? .....could always start instead by saying "hey friendly American dudes, let's be friends, could you please look after your animals better and then we'd love the eat them more often".... Why not come at it from a positive and inclusive angle? I wouldn't want low-hygiene chicken if Obama or anyone else is in charge. This isn't about political alignment. I wouldn't care who's in the Whitehouse or Downing Street here. It's about the UK actively dropping standards. Right now we don't allow this stuff in our markets. I say again, last year a doctors group sued the US body who oversees farming standards (USDA) because that body would do nothing about faecal contamination in American meat. The USDA argued that "fecal contamination is a visible defect only". So I guess that means they encourage people to keep their eyes closed and keep eating crap! Not me thanks " . We all keep coming back to the same points without listening to others. When did sterilised shit ever kill anyone? The flesh itself presents more of an issue for bacterial growth as it ages surely? If a product is safe and minimal cruelty took place in its production (I say minimal because it involves rearing an animal in unnatural conditions to kill it prematurely), however unpalatable it might sound to some, it should be an option if some ppl would like to consume it.... It's as if none of you folks drive or smoke or drink alcohol or take drugs and medicines or do anything else through personal and hard fought for choice and freedoms that could be damaging to your health.... | |||
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"American = chicken - fat - trump - sexists - racist - corrupt - "dirty chemicals" = me no buy your dirty racists chicken shit! And that's not political at all.....? .....could always start instead by saying "hey friendly American dudes, let's be friends, could you please look after your animals better and then we'd love the eat them more often".... Why not come at it from a positive and inclusive angle? I wouldn't want low-hygiene chicken if Obama or anyone else is in charge. This isn't about political alignment. I wouldn't care who's in the Whitehouse or Downing Street here. It's about the UK actively dropping standards. Right now we don't allow this stuff in our markets. I say again, last year a doctors group sued the US body who oversees farming standards (USDA) because that body would do nothing about faecal contamination in American meat. The USDA argued that "fecal contamination is a visible defect only". So I guess that means they encourage people to keep their eyes closed and keep eating crap! Not me thanks " It's a well known fact that american regulatory standards are not impartial and have been captured by special interest lobbying. Be it the USDA, FDA, EPA , FCC, or FAA. That makes me suspicious of everything they approve of as "safe". | |||
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"There's a reason European standards are higher than most countries. It's not done for the fun of it. I have an issue with factory farming as it is. Considering the way American farms do it, i'm even less inclined to fund such practices." It seems Brexit, for better or worse, puts us in a regulatory vacuum. I hope this isn't used to reduce our standards, but I fear that's exactly where we're going. | |||
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"There's a reason European standards are higher than most countries. It's not done for the fun of it. I have an issue with factory farming as it is. Considering the way American farms do it, i'm even less inclined to fund such practices. It seems Brexit, for better or worse, puts us in a regulatory vacuum. I hope this isn't used to reduce our standards, but I fear that's exactly where we're going." It's a double-edged sword. Brexit hands the power to make these decisions back to us. There's nothing in Brexit itself which says we should compromise standards. That's the choice of the Tories, and right now they're not up to it. We've got some of the worst people in charge at a time when we really need the best. | |||
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"There's a reason European standards are higher than most countries. It's not done for the fun of it. I have an issue with factory farming as it is. Considering the way American farms do it, i'm even less inclined to fund such practices. It seems Brexit, for better or worse, puts us in a regulatory vacuum. I hope this isn't used to reduce our standards, but I fear that's exactly where we're going. It's a double-edged sword. Brexit hands the power to make these decisions back to us. There's nothing in Brexit itself which says we should compromise standards. That's the choice of the Tories, and right now they're not up to it. We've got some of the worst people in charge at a time when we really need the best. " Hmm. I think we're in a weakened position to set our own standards by going it alone. And this is a Tory led and shaped Brexit. I was a lot less informed at the time of the referendum, but I voted Remain first and foremost because it seemed to me that the Leave side were fundamentally dishonest. | |||
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"There's a reason European standards are higher than most countries. It's not done for the fun of it. I have an issue with factory farming as it is. Considering the way American farms do it, i'm even less inclined to fund such practices. It seems Brexit, for better or worse, puts us in a regulatory vacuum. I hope this isn't used to reduce our standards, but I fear that's exactly where we're going. It's a double-edged sword. Brexit hands the power to make these decisions back to us. There's nothing in Brexit itself which says we should compromise standards. That's the choice of the Tories, and right now they're not up to it. We've got some of the worst people in charge at a time when we really need the best. Hmm. I think we're in a weakened position to set our own standards by going it alone. And this is a Tory led and shaped Brexit. I was a lot less informed at the time of the referendum, but I voted Remain first and foremost because it seemed to me that the Leave side were fundamentally dishonest." Agree with all of this. | |||
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"No, animal standards in USA are disgusting, the stuff should even be allowed here as it goes against our food standards. " What about USA vegetables and fruit ? | |||
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"No, animal standards in USA are disgusting, the stuff should even be allowed here as it goes against our food standards. What about USA vegetables and fruit ?" As bad as their meat Very dangerous,proven, pesticides used that are banned in eu | |||
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"I work in agriculture and we are justifiably proud of the higher standards we operate too, brought about in no small part to the pressure and lobbying of consumer groups. We feel it would be utter madness to surrender this advantage in trade negotiations. It’s not just animal welfare but traceability and accountability of how we operate and what we apply to crops and cattle in general. Nothing good will come from lowering our standards to appease others be it America or anyone else. I would be happy to raise our standards higher than EU and then tell them to step up. " Great post And a great offer Brexit plan Unfortunately he's going the opposite way | |||
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"I don't agree with most factory farming, whether it be chicks, cattle, pigs, lambs. I'm not totally read up on this, but a lot of livestock is pumped with antibiotics and other stuff to boost growth. I lasted less than half a day at an abattoir, as thought the "process" was horrible. That's why I prefer to shoot. Failing that, have friends that butcher on farm also. " If you thought an abbatoir with EU standards were bad the US version is absolutely disgusting They allow twicevas much pus,yes pus,in their milk and infected meat Plus they allow sickeningly high amounts of rat hair,rat shit,rodent carcasses and lots of other shit And thats their standards,they don't test half as much as we do so most products don't even meet those standards | |||
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"Yes. Its meat. If you care for animal welfare then you cant really eat meat. If you eat meat because little chick lived his short life in an open field ,that just saves your conscience. Results is still the same. Get slaughtered and rolled in breadcrumbs. Nomnom." What about happy eggs ? | |||
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"I don't agree with most factory farming, whether it be chicks, cattle, pigs, lambs. I'm not totally read up on this, but a lot of livestock is pumped with antibiotics and other stuff to boost growth. I lasted less than half a day at an abattoir, as thought the "process" was horrible. That's why I prefer to shoot. Failing that, have friends that butcher on farm also. If you thought an abbatoir with EU standards were bad the US version is absolutely disgusting They allow twicevas much pus,yes pus,in their milk and infected meat Plus they allow sickeningly high amounts of rat hair,rat shit,rodent carcasses and lots of other shit And thats their standards,they don't test half as much as we do so most products don't even meet those standards " I can only imagine, and the thought is absolutely sickening. Yes we have better standards, but I didn't like the actual process of truck loads of animals being led single file... Then you can imagine the rest. When I have hunted or fished, I've always been mindful of what I am doing, and always thabkful for the sustenance it will give me and my family, and think this is far more humane than mass produced meat. If I was in America, I'd probably live off elk, deer etc. | |||
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"If people are worried then just buy British.....America might not want to have their products labelled where they are from but most British products are proud to display " If I was a poultry farmer I would be getting labels made up saying in big letters NOT CHLORINATED! I probably wouldn't buy chicken from the U.S. (Or most other countries) as I dislike the idea of the environmental impact incurred transporting them plus also other countries don't have the same animal welfare standards. Although the chlorination process doesn't really worry me as such, I'd eat American chicken in the USA with no real worries. | |||
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"If people are worried then just buy British.....America might not want to have their products labelled where they are from but most British products are proud to display " What are you going to do when you eat out? School dinners? Hospitals? When your kids visit other kids? As it is,you know all those are safe | |||
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"If people are worried then just buy British.....America might not want to have their products labelled where they are from but most British products are proud to display If I was a poultry farmer I would be getting labels made up saying in big letters NOT CHLORINATED! I probably wouldn't buy chicken from the U.S. (Or most other countries) as I dislike the idea of the environmental impact incurred transporting them plus also other countries don't have the same animal welfare standards. Although the chlorination process doesn't really worry me as such, I'd eat American chicken in the USA with no real worries." You are literally saying you are happy to eat shit And rat shit at that Mind boggling | |||
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"If people are worried then just buy British.....America might not want to have their products labelled where they are from but most British products are proud to display If I was a poultry farmer I would be getting labels made up saying in big letters NOT CHLORINATED! I probably wouldn't buy chicken from the U.S. (Or most other countries) as I dislike the idea of the environmental impact incurred transporting them plus also other countries don't have the same animal welfare standards. Although the chlorination process doesn't really worry me as such, I'd eat American chicken in the USA with no real worries. You are literally saying you are happy to eat shit And rat shit at that Mind boggling" So where does this rat shit come into this? More tabloid scaremongering?? If US chicken is so bad how come so many people (Americans and tourists alike) haven't been taken ill? The USA has a well funded department of Agriculture and one of the highest qualities of life. I doubt this would be possible if their food was so unhygenic? Also, do you question where your cheap chicken currently comes from? Those supermarket meal deal sandwiches mainly contain chicken imported from Thailand. I wonder how their farming compares with a first world country's? | |||
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"If people are worried then just buy British.....America might not want to have their products labelled where they are from but most British products are proud to display If I was a poultry farmer I would be getting labels made up saying in big letters NOT CHLORINATED! I probably wouldn't buy chicken from the U.S. (Or most other countries) as I dislike the idea of the environmental impact incurred transporting them plus also other countries don't have the same animal welfare standards. Although the chlorination process doesn't really worry me as such, I'd eat American chicken in the USA with no real worries. You are literally saying you are happy to eat shit And rat shit at that Mind boggling So where does this rat shit come into this? More tabloid scaremongering?? If US chicken is so bad how come so many people (Americans and tourists alike) haven't been taken ill? The USA has a well funded department of Agriculture and one of the highest qualities of life. I doubt this would be possible if their food was so unhygenic? Also, do you question where your cheap chicken currently comes from? Those supermarket meal deal sandwiches mainly contain chicken imported from Thailand. I wonder how their farming compares with a first world country's?" They do be taken I'll Food poisoning is multiples of what it is here The rat shit comes from rats and it is allowed by their standards.fact Like I said you seem to be happy to eat shit so Boris is doing good for you | |||
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"Not a great fan of chicken anyway, but if I buy it, I buy decent stuff, not the shite own brand stuff that has only had so much free space to roam after it was butchered and killed. Like most of our food products, meat especially, it is too cheap. But while people don't care about food standards (and farmers being ripped off by the supermarkets) it will continue to happen." How much room does a chicken need to roam after it’s butchered and killed? | |||
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