FabSwingers.com forum: Maggie Thatcher- The Iron Lady

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We have just watched the film. Meryl Streep puts in an incredible performance, it's a shame the film concentrated on her alzheimers more than her rise to power and what happened whilst she was PM.

It did raise a question with us though, because of the way she polarizes people. It has already been decided that she will have a full state funeral, but with the extremes of feelings about her, we can imagine riots on the streets again when it is held.

Thoughts please???

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

We'd attend - to make sure the evil bitch was actually dead. Z

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

the journey to her final resting place should be conducted with dignity, respect and the honours that all previous Prime Ministers have had.

Nothing less, nothing more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

so long as they shoot the 21 gun salute into the coffin i'll be happy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think there will be any rioting as the pondlife that rioted last summer weren't even born when Maggie was doing her thang!

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By *icboyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

All of Scotland will mark her passing with street parties...something to look forward to...

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By *erge3Man
over a year ago

Aspatria

thatcher is my reason to draw breath

i long for the day i can dance on that bastards grave

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"We have just watched the film. Meryl Streep puts in an incredible performance, it's a shame the film concentrated on her alzheimers more than her rise to power and what happened whilst she was PM.

Thoughts please??? "

I don't think there will be riots at all.... but i reckon I could draw a line from "the wash" in east anglia to the bristol channel.... and fairly safely say that 90% of the people above that line will have one hell of a party when she pops it.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Needs to be buried in a coal mine, if you could find one still open by then.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We have just watched the film. Meryl Streep puts in an incredible performance, it's a shame the film concentrated on her alzheimers more than her rise to power and what happened whilst she was PM.

Thoughts please???

There does seem to be a North South divide about her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She once said of the great British Mineworkers "Let them eat grass" when fighting tooth and nail for our jobs and communities so when the bitch does go i for one will not be shedding a tear.

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By *RS79Man
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"We have just watched the film. Meryl Streep puts in an incredible performance, it's a shame the film concentrated on her alzheimers more than her rise to power and what happened whilst she was PM.

Thoughts please???

There does seem to be a North South divide about her "

And that suprises you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the journey to her final resting place should be conducted with dignity, respect and the honours that all previous Prime Ministers have had.

Nothing less, nothing more.

Spot on.

Welcome back View, it's good to see you (I mean read you).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

she had what we need in world leaders today. balls and an iron temperament

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the journey to her final resting place should be conducted with dignity, respect and the honours that all previous Prime Ministers have had.

Nothing less, nothing more.

Spot on.

Welcome back View, it's good to see you (I mean read you). "

I too concur with the above. Mrs Thatcher modernised our country and yet the supposed great Tony Blair, icon to dick head northerners, has the blood of thousands on his hands.

Go figure the mentality of northerners.

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

Bucks

have the DVD here from LoveFilm, so will be watching it in next couple of days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the journey to her final resting place should be conducted with dignity, respect and the honours that all previous Prime Ministers have had.

Nothing less, nothing more.

Spot on.

Welcome back View, it's good to see you (I mean read you).

I too concur with the above. Mrs Thatcher modernised our country and yet the supposed great Tony Blair, icon to dick head northerners, has the blood of thousands on his hands.

Go figure the mentality of northerners."

excuse ME i live in the north and was born near to Maggie and also served in the army under her and she did alot for this country but mension her name and you can spot the blair rights from a mile away as for the minors she didnt cause the pits to close they did that them selfs

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

There is an on-line petition for her 'state' funeral to be sponsored by the private sector/Big Society as the priority of this government is to reduce the deficit. It is interesting to read as it uses Thatcherite language to make the case.

I was not a Thatcher supporter and will never have a soft spot for her but she has been a significant figure in shaping this country (and my life and ideology). She remains a truly unique PM and that should be marked.

I thought the film was promoted in the wrong way. It's interesting to watch if you accept it is entirely fictional but uses some real events to set the timeline and era. As a story of loss, of love, of status, of faculties, it was great. Streep and Colman were outstanding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

give me thatchers and churchills to lead this country any day

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Who says she is getting a state funeral? She was hardly a Churchill or LLoyd George.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Who says she is getting a state funeral? She was hardly a Churchill or LLoyd George."

There is a plan for her state funeral as she is seen as Churchill/Lloyd George figure.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Who says she is getting a state funeral? She was hardly a Churchill or LLoyd George.

There is a plan for her state funeral as she is seen as Churchill/Lloyd George figure."

And people say the Royal Family are a waste of money.

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By *RS79Man
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Well this "Dick head northerner" will be having a party along with many others when she dies

We are akways told this wonderful women saved and modernised this country but you have to wonder why that meant the destruction of proud working communities

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"the journey to her final resting place should be conducted with dignity, respect and the honours that all previous Prime Ministers have had.

Nothing less, nothing more.

I'm not a fan, but agree with this statement.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Is she dead yet ?

She never said, 'Let them eat Grass.'

I think that was Meyrick in Dakota circa 18th C .....

She gets blamed for a lot of things.

She did what she thought was right for the greater good.

I don't mind people disagreeing with her policies but it dosen't make you better people to wish evil on her.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Well this "Dick head northerner" will be having a party along with many others when she dies

We are akways told this wonderful women saved and modernised this country but you have to wonder why that meant the destruction of proud working communities "

Bring back printing blocks , monasteries and chimney sweeps I say!

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By *aceytopWoman
over a year ago

from a town near you

wether i agree with whats been said about her or not is my business

but lowering yourselve to bad mouth a large part of England,just shows your ignorance,

do i know you,do you know me?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well this "Dick head northerner" will be having a party along with many others when she dies

We are akways told this wonderful women saved and modernised this country but you have to wonder why that meant the destruction of proud working communities "

With you mate the bitch abused the country, sold off assets so the idle rich could get richer I will be celebrating when she is 6 ft under for sure and thousands of others will too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"wether i agree with whats been said about her or not is my business

but lowering yourselve to bad mouth a large part of England,just shows your ignorance,

do i know you,do you know me?

well said

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well this "Dick head northerner" will be having a party along with many others when she dies

We are akways told this wonderful women saved and modernised this country but you have to wonder why that meant the destruction of proud working communities

Bring back printing blocks , monasteries and chimney sweeps I say!"

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Riots in the streets? Blimey no. But we will want to make sure the witch is actually dead and it aint some horrible hoax.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

Go figure the mentality of northerners

Crikey - rather a sweeping, ignorant,inane, banal( can think of lots more) statement - on what do you base your judgement on? We're all entotled to our opinions of other people - if you had lived in Yorkshire during her 'reign' you would certainly have a different outlook. I, for one, wouldn't deem to be so entitled as to sweepingly judge a large part of the country. How very arrogant of you! Z

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

the question i would ask is the people who liked thatcher would be can you understand why she would be hated in lets say scotland.... or yorkshire.... or south wales... or the north east...

just as i would ask the thatcher haters if they could see why she was loved in the south and south east... for example... allowing people the right to buy their council homes for example at a lower price....

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

I am hopefull that she will lead a long painfull life and suffer as she made others suffer.

And as i have allways lived in south devon the north south divide is crap people all over the country hate her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the journey to her final resting place should be conducted with dignity, respect and the honours that all previous Prime Ministers have had.

Nothing less, nothing more.

Spot on.

Welcome back View, it's good to see you (I mean read you). "

Spot on, both of you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who says she is getting a state funeral? She was hardly a Churchill or LLoyd George.

There is a plan for her state funeral as she is seen as Churchill/Lloyd George figure.

And people say the Royal Family are a waste of money.

And the people who say that are wrong ( In my opinion )

Love her or not Margaret was a PM who will never be forgotten, unlike many before and since.

She deserves the honours of this state... And the circa 50p the state will tax me to bury this historic character will be paid with respect.

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By *RS79Man
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

" just as i would ask the thatcher haters if they could see why she was loved in the south and south east... for example... allowing people the right to buy their council homes for example at a lower price.... "

I think the sale of council houses to tenants is a brilliant idea the problem has always been that the council's are then prevented from reinvesting that money into more sustainable housing which can then be sold on to the next generation in due course

Instead the policy was used to stigmatise those who didn't want to or were unable to buy thier home and to reduce council housing stocks and transfer responsibility for social housing to the "3rd"sector

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who says she is getting a state funeral? She was hardly a Churchill or LLoyd George.

There is a plan for her state funeral as she is seen as Churchill/Lloyd George figure.

And people say the Royal Family are a waste of money.

And the people who say that are wrong ( In my opinion )

Love her or not Margaret was a PM who will never be forgotten, unlike many before and since.

She deserves the honours of this state... And the circa 50p the state will tax me to bury this historic character will be paid with respect.

I like your style

*her*

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland

"Who says she is getting a state funeral? She was hardly a Churchill or LLoyd George.

There is a plan for her state funeral as she is seen as Churchill/Lloyd George figure.

And people say the Royal Family are a waste of money.

And the people who say that are wrong ( In my opinion )

Love her or not Margaret was a PM who will never be forgotten, unlike many before and since.

She deserves the honours of this state... And the circa 50p the state will tax me to bury this historic character will be paid with respect.

It will be 50p well spent as long as it helps to put the bitch in the ground.

I will even donate an extra 50p.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who says she is getting a state funeral? She was hardly a Churchill or LLoyd George.

There is a plan for her state funeral as she is seen as Churchill/Lloyd George figure.

And people say the Royal Family are a waste of money.

And the people who say that are wrong ( In my opinion )

Love her or not Margaret was a PM who will never be forgotten, unlike many before and since.

She deserves the honours of this state... And the circa 50p the state will tax me to bury this historic character will be paid with respect.

It will be 50p well spent as long as it helps to put the bitch in the ground.

I will even donate an extra 50p."

Just for the record, I... we were not a fan of the Iron Lady either - just feel that every PM, well human being deserves respect in death?

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By *edbagioMan
over a year ago

ripon

cant get my head around half the stuff im reading;she is human ;and took over this country in hard times just like

the present gov.

shame to talk about someone with hate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Last time a thread about Maggie came on I got a ban for sticking up for her so I will be a bit more careful this time !

Wishing evil on someone who got us out of the trouble we were in , and put paid to the ludicrous union domination of the time is sick.

She was by far the best pm we have had since Churchill and we could do with someone like her now to get us out of the mire the labour party has put us in again .

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Wishing evil on someone ....

For me it is this wishing evil on anybody that I dont agree with?

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"the journey to her final resting place should be conducted with dignity, respect and the honours that all previous Prime Ministers have had.

Nothing less, nothing more.

Spot on.

Welcome back View, it's good to see you (I mean read you).

I too concur with the above. Mrs Thatcher modernised our country and yet the supposed great Tony Blair, icon to dick head northerners, has the blood of thousands on his hands.

Go figure the mentality of northerners.

I'm with you on that one, my dad was army and Maggie always did good by the armed forces, not like Blair, he will use them for his greater good and then look for as many cutbacks as possible!

Not to mention she had to tackle a mans world at that time, doesn't anyone give her credit for that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"give me thatchers and churchills to lead this country any day "

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

I haven't wished evil on any one - as I live with a Yorkshire man and being a Lancastrian myself (making us both Northern Dickheads)we know what she did to massive areas in the North and Steve has seen first hand what her policies did to peoples lives - ok - some good as well as bad policies during her time as pm - but I certainly won't shed a tear when she dies. Z

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By *RS79Man
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

It is great to see the central thatcherite mantra of I am all right jack holds good today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is the dick head northerners who spout spiteful and hateful bile that I refer too.

Mrs Thatcher brought our country from the brink of oblivion into the modern world. Why people bemoan the closing of pits I don't know? Places where young men worked in disgusting conditions and put themselves at risk of developing all kinds of respiratory problems in later life - a job to aspire to? Don't think so.

I am a northerner, I was born and live in the north and I feel physically sick at the bile and hatred spouted about a dignified woman who did her best for her country at a time when we were in the shit. Those of you wishing such hideous things on her show no such dignity and in fact show yourself to be simply ignorant and full of misguided hatred.

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

I remember getting school milk every day and that bitch took it away, and she hated scotland and treated us like shite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm with you on that one, my dad was army and Maggie always did good by the armed forces, not like Blair, he will use them for his greater good and then look for as many cutbacks as possible!

Not to mention she had to tackle a mans world at that time, doesn't anyone give her credit for that?

She cut the navy back so far when she started it practically invited the Argentinians to have a go.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

"It is the dick head northerners who spout spiteful and hateful bile that I refer too.

You very obviously are terribly ignorant of the whole mining issue - pleas read up on it and post when you have the faintest idea as to the subject you're trying to talk about. What's this? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha - thump. Me laughing my head off at you! Z

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By *evilwolfCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

" It has already been decided that she will have a full state funeral

...in Toxteth?

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is the dick head northerners who spout spiteful and hateful bile that I refer too.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

Once again, I have to say that I haven't wished any harm to this 'woman' - I said that I will not be upset when she dies - I am entitled to my opinion even if others think otherwise! Z

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By *lubPartyPeepsCouple
over a year ago

London

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By *evilwolfCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Once again, I have to say that I haven't wished any harm to this 'woman' - I said that I will not be upset when she dies - I am entitled to my opinion even if others think otherwise! Z"

Absolutely.

The only ones to benefit from the tories have been the tories themselves. Some people have very short memories...

Thats my opinion.

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By *lubPartyPeepsCouple
over a year ago

London

'Roll out the Thatchers and Churchills in times of war, but don't let them give to the rich and rob from the poor.'

'Show me an honest politician and I will give you an honest man, but don't preach to do unless you know if you can...'

'Give us a leader who will only do good, if it were only that easy then all of us would'

'Give us a government we all want in power, show me the soloution in less than 1000 hours'

'Hate them or love them they all choose to lead, some did it well but were consumed by greed.'

'Leader or politician, their all much the same, at the end of the day we love someone to blame...'

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Not that i agree but there may be street parties in Scotland when she passes. id say she will be going down and not up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wigan has a history of pits and mining and many of my school friends took up apprenticeships with the NCB when we all left school in the late 1970's. I meet these guys in pubs and clubs today and we are all in our 50's. Not one of them reminisces about the gold old days or would wish their kids such a life as they had. Without exception they agree that they went on strike and protested at the time, but now, on reflection they accept that it was a hideous environment to work in.

There are northerners and there are dick head northerners. By dick head, I mean brainless, ignorant and/or stupid in equal proportions. I seem to recall earlier in the thread you said -

"to make sure the evil bitch was actually dead."

I see no, intelligence, rationale or dignity in such a statement - just thoughtless hatred. Why would any mature, intelligent adult make such a hate filled statement?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well this "Dick head northerner" will be having a party along with many others when she dies

We are akways told this wonderful women saved and modernised this country but you have to wonder why that meant the destruction of proud working communities "

Well said, it's easy to speak about things when you have no idea of the absolute destitution that was caused by that bitch. I for one despise the witch and hope she dies a slow painful, malingering undignified death, like all of the communities around here has to suffer

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

If being nasty and vindictive with such venom is the impression you want to give out then some of you did it with so much conviction

From someone who didn't like what Thatcher did but wouldn't be so hateful for a person who was doing her job , even if I did think she was rubbish at it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I do think that some of the posts on here are done by people with inherited hatred of her. Looking at the ages of some of the people spitting bile, I don't imagine they would have been old enough to understand her politics or been in the position to objectively judge her at the time.

The programme on BBC2 about the 70's that was shown recently was superb and gave an unbiased _iew of the mess that she inherited. 2 things struck me in the programme:

The first was that the Right to Buy started under the Labour government, Maggie just gave the policy a brand name.

The second is that if the coal fields were workable and profitable, then why did no private company buy it?

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By *omnlynneCouple
over a year ago

milton keynes

as someone who started working life in the late seventies and had a decent state education from a council estate till my parents could afford to buy their own property and my dad was an open cast coal miner i can honestly say that maggies policies made rich people richer gave rise to a have and have not society we are bearing the fruits of today.

communities decimated in many parts of the country that in many instances have never recovered from.

i am not now nor will i ever be a maggie fan and can see many reflections in call me dave and his policies though in ed balls i see the reicarnation of gordon brown so im not labour either.

maggie no more then anyone else deserves to die with respect and dignity but in no circumstance be afforded a state funeral in my opinion her selling off the railways school playing fields water industry electric board and her crowning glory of the poll tax should be the things that see to to that.

but to pour vitrol on a old woman with a terrible degenarative disease is in my book somehow wrong

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

i am not now nor will i ever be a maggie fan and can see many reflections in call me dave and his policies though in ed balls i see the reicarnation of gordon brown so im not labour either.

but to pour vitrol on a old woman with a terrible degenarative disease is in my book somehow wrong"

Hear Hear!!

Whilst Maggie had her fans and also her detractors too, that is par for the course for all politicians.

But would any of those on here spitting their venom in the direction of Maggie, be any different towards any other politician of any other party suffering in the same way?

Regardless of your political leanings, bias and so on, your opinions etc, please at least show a thread of humanity and treat those in pain with common decency.

If you can't do that, then words fail me for such poor examples of the Human Race!

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By *unwmidscplCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

can only be compared to stalin and hitler , wait till all the secrets come out in time and what kind of a person uses our armed forces to help win another term in office , the falklands, how many died just for her place in history, the truth will out and then all will see what an evil bitch she was

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran

i am not now nor will i ever be a maggie fan and can see many reflections in call me dave and his policies though in ed balls i see the reicarnation of gordon brown so im not labour either.

but to pour vitrol on a old woman with a terrible degenarative disease is in my book somehow wrong

Hear Hear!!

Whilst Maggie had her fans and also her detractors too, that is par for the course for all politicians.

But would any of those on here spitting their venom in the direction of Maggie, be any different towards any other politician of any other party suffering in the same way?

Regardless of your political leanings, bias and so on, your opinions etc, please at least show a thread of humanity and treat those in pain with common decency.

If you can't do that, then words fail me for such poor examples of the Human Race!"

I think you are missing the point that some people are making - she presided of a government and initiated policies that showed little concern for 100,000s of people who only wanted to live decent lives themselves.

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

You can add all former Local Authority workers south of that line who had a steady job before she came to power!

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

"can only be compared to stalin and hitler "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whatever peoples _iews on Mrs T. She should have the same dignity afforded to her at the time of her death, as would be afforded to any other ex PM.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We'd attend - to make sure the evil bitch was actually dead. Z"
can we stand beside you please???

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I know she said "The Lady's not for turning", but which end would you pick in a spitroast

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

All I can say is I wasn't missing the point! I was only pointing out that regardless of any political affiliation, anyone in the Public Eye, should be afforded a thread of decency and dignity whilst they suffer.

Imagine if people started to round on your nearest and dearest in similar circumstances and slagged her off.

Be a human being; show some compassion!

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Did Maggie Thatcher ever fiddle her expenses like a lot of the current self-interest politicians?

I don't know, i suspect not.

But i'd wager many would blame her for that, the harbringer of the selfish human greed we see today.

Having lived through the 70's all i will add is god help everyone of us if she hadn't turned the country around, the mess we'd have been in long ago doesn't bear thinking about.

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran

Imagine if people started to round on your nearest and dearest in similar circumstances and slagged her off.

Be a human being; show some compassion!

why are you picking on me and my nearest and dearest - Im just saying you dont seem to understand why people can have such hatred for someone - some of these people will have seen their nearest and dearest suffering as a consequence of her actions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

is it just me thats see's some irony in the guy calling people 'dickhead northeners' is actually a self professed northener, and the garbage he is spouting is just labelling himself rather than the majority??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There won't be riots, in fact I think we'll all be surprised at what a quiet, uneventful time Mrs T's day will be.

Most people in this country have common sense and will give the woman the dignity to which she is entitled, the same as any other human being on this planet is entitled.

I live in Ashington, the heart of the once Northumberland coalfield and if you are to believe what lots of my friends try to tell you, you'll believe that Mrs Thatcher was directly responsible for them being out of work, when all along, they were the authors of their own demise because all they could say was 'strike' 'strike' 'strike' until one day somebody said, 'hey' coal is cheaper from Poland and Russia than what it is in our own county so lets shut the pits and import the coal and we'll close the pits and sack the greedy UK miners'

Now before anyone jumps on me, I have every respect for my history, for the coal mines and those who worked in bloody dangerous conditions to dig out the black diamonds. In their day they worked hard and got very little pay and worked in dangerous conditions for which they quite rightly rebelled. Changes came, safety was improved, working conditions got better and quite rightly so, but then the pitmen got greedy, held the country to ransom, I remember the 3 day week, the power cuts and all that mullarky. Then back in the 80's the pitmen again got shirty over pay, not forgetting that by this time they were on a bloody damned sight better pay than me, rent free house most of them, free coal (or gas allowance), but still they wern't happy so the pits went .... millions of tons of coal sitting right under my feet, now being taken out by opencast mining with a handful of men. Had the pitmen and their militant unions been reasonable, a lot of them and their offspring may have still been working in deep mines.,

I bet Mr 'King Coal' Scargill is still doing very well for himself .......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"can only be compared to stalin and hitler , wait till all the secrets come out in time and what kind of a person uses our armed forces to help win another term in office , the falklands, how many died just for her place in history, the truth will out and then all will see what an evil bitch she was"

Jeez , how sad is this post ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"can only be compared to stalin and hitler

how can you compare her to people who between them caused over 60 million deaths? That has singularly got to be the most ridiculous statement I have ever read on here!

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Thatcher will be shown the same level of compassion she showed hundreds of thousands of British people when she tore through their jobs with a bloody great scythe when in power....

I won't go as so far as to wish her dead, but I won't bat an eyelid when she finally expires....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Imagine if people started to round on your nearest and dearest in similar circumstances and slagged her off.

Be a human being; show some compassion!

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

If Maggie Thatcher was the Iron Lady i'm so glad i was never a babe magnet.

Until recently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"can only be compared to stalin and hitler

how can you compare her to people who between them caused over 60 million deaths? That has singularly got to be the most ridiculous statement I have ever read on here!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"can only be compared to stalin and hitler , "

What a fucking rediculous thing to say -You should be ashamed of yourself

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Margaret Thatcher = That Great Charmer.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Did Maggie Thatcher ever fiddle her expenses like a lot of the current self-interest politicians?

I don't know, i suspect not.

But i'd wager many would blame her for that, the harbringer of the selfish human greed we see today.

Having lived through the 70's all i will add is god help everyone of us if she hadn't turned the country around, the mess we'd have been in long ago doesn't bear thinking about.

I don't believe she was the sort of politician to fiddle expenses, whatever else I may think of her. But, it was her fudging of increasing MPs pay and setting up the flawed expenses system that created the conditions for those that did fiddle.

But back to the OP - at some point she will die and there is a current plan to afford her a state funeral.

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.

I bet Mr 'King Coal' Scargill is still doing very well for himself ......."

yes i bet he is too!,while miners scraped by the ol' duffer was living rent free and well fed on the unions funds!,didn't his offspring move into rent free union houses too?.

i also remember the miners that were not striking getting taxi's to take them into work and then having to dodge the concrete blocks dropped from bridges to stop them getting in to work!,it was unfortunate that only a couple of taxi drivers were murdered in this way!.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Well this "Dick head northerner" will be having a party along with many others when she dies

We are akways told this wonderful women saved and modernised this country but you have to wonder why that meant the destruction of proud working communities

With you mate the bitch abused the country, sold off assets so the idle rich could get richer I will be celebrating when she is 6 ft under for sure and thousands of others will too.

I'd prefer her assets to fund the funeral, which should have dignity, but totally agree and will be one of the thousands to see the vermin not walking the face of the earth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is the dick head northerners who spout spiteful and hateful bile that I refer too.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

thats a stretch too far..

not a fan of her or her kind but they are not mass murderers,even her support for pinochet does'nt put her in their league..

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

To those who appeal for humanity towards Thatcher, all I'd say is give me proof she was human.

No-one with a shred of humanity themselves would impose their alien me-me-me, money-money-money culture on communities whose strengths lay in their common values and basic decencies.

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.

more respect for thatcher than the blair-brown government who sold us down the river and gave brussells all the power to run this country!,blair arranged it saying 'yes!,yes!,i will sign!', to anything brussells asked and brown crept in the back door the day after the other other european chiefs to avoid the cameras and the british press!.

mrs thatcher defended our country from outside inteference!.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"more respect for thatcher than the blair-brown government who sold us down the river and gave brussells all the power to run this country!,blair arranged it saying 'yes!,yes!,i will sign!', to anything brussells asked and brown crept in the back door the day after the other other european chiefs to avoid the cameras and the british press!.

mrs thatcher defended our country from outside inteference!."

think it was ted heath who 'took' us in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Funny how no-one's commented on the (eventually) well paid pitmen who wouldn't go to work because they became too greedy for their own good then priced themselves out of a job ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it's all so easy to blame someone else ....

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

mrs thatcher defended our country from outside inteference!.

think it was ted heath who 'took' us in?"

Wasn't it a public referendum?

On joining a "common market" and not a socialist political union.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To those who appeal for humanity towards Thatcher, all I'd say is give me proof she was human.

No-one with a shred of humanity themselves would impose their alien me-me-me, money-money-money culture on communities whose strengths lay in their common values and basic decencies.

Sarah your 43,hardly old enough to remember her, but stop talking like a ha'penny novel.

Ok you've heard stories about her policies and you don't agree with her - why not leave it at that ? But to ask for proof that she's human - that is just plain fucking stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

mrs thatcher defended our country from outside inteference!.

think it was ted heath who 'took' us in?

Wasn't it a public referendum?

On joining a "common market" and not a socialist political union."

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

wow......... what a thread.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Land of Hope and Glory x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sarah your 43,hardly old enough to remember her, but stop talking like a ha'penny novel.

Ok you've heard stories about her policies and you don't agree with her - why not leave it at that ? But to ask for proof that she's human - that is just plain fucking stupid."

You don't have to be in your 50's to remember her, i've barely turned 28 but can remember the hatred and fear we had of her, the poll tax ( 1 year early up here"), pit closures, shipyards and steelmills closed.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

"Land of Hope and Glory x"

XmwahX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"can only be compared to stalin and hitler ,

What a fucking rediculous thing to say -You should be ashamed of yourself"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Sarah your 43,hardly old enough to remember her, but stop talking like a ha'penny novel.

Ok you've heard stories about her policies and you don't agree with her - why not leave it at that ? But to ask for proof that she's human - that is just plain fucking stupid.

Pits, shipyards and steel mills that were losing fantastic amounts of money, it was not financially sustainable for any government to prop them up. Industries die out, fact, if not we would still cotton mills across the midlands and tin mining in Cornwall!

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

"Who says she is getting a state funeral? She was hardly a Churchill or LLoyd George.

There is a plan for her state funeral as she is seen as Churchill/Lloyd George figure.

And people say the Royal Family are a waste of money.

And the people who say that are wrong ( In my opinion )

Love her or not Margaret was a PM who will never be forgotten, unlike many before and since.

She deserves the honours of this state... And the circa 50p the state will tax me to bury this historic character will be paid with respect.

+1....from a Northerner who did most of her growing up under the Iron Lady, owned my first home at 18, always been lucky enough to be in work and voted Tory all my life bar last but 1 election...the hatred I read against Mrs Thatcher makes me shudder at the lack of basic humanity some people show

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By *illbillMan
over a year ago

dublin

as a non british person in this forum im not suprised at the amount of disrespect for the iron lady...after all did she not show contemt for the people she governed as well as people of other nations. if the british tax payers wish to save money on her funeral ill gladly bury her for free.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

thatcher may not have been everybody's cup of tea.she nurtured a culture of greed,and encouraged the me me me,over society.

having said that she was a genius of a politician,she could stand up in the house of commons,and make abject failure,sound like total success.

i keep my fingers crossed,that someday we have a politician,who has the same political qualities,and uses them,not for the few,but for all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sarah your 43,hardly old enough to remember her, but stop talking like a ha'penny novel.

Ok you've heard stories about her policies and you don't agree with her - why not leave it at that ? But to ask for proof that she's human - that is just plain fucking stupid.

No - you can remember what people have told you ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Theyes money to be made in them, Ravenscraig steelmill was far more efficient and profitable than its english counterparts yet was shut down as there was no tory MP there. Shipyards were still working with ww2 tooling and there was never any investment to modernise them, we could still compete with the germans and others for orders if the government weren't so quick to shit on the working class.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If it was such a great business, why did no private enterprise buy it? Don't make sense to me.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Tin mining is back in Cornwall because there is demand. It is not yet large scale but where there is profit to be made the investment will go there.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Tin mining is back in Cornwall because there is demand. It is not yet large scale but where there is profit to be made the investment will go there."

And if pits, shipyards and steel mills become a viable business, they will get reinvestment and reopen as well....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Steel is being produced on Teeside again .... The blast furnaces were fired upa aain 6 weeks or so ago

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

I have a fairly good reason to hate Mrs Thatcher ,i see her as the reason people died on hospital trolleys in dirty hospital corridors because of the NHS cuts in the 80s ,including my poor old mom left on a trolley with a brain hemorrhage and only offered two aspirins in the 14 hours she waited for a doctor, she left us a week later.....but you know what ,i don't wish the lady dead ,I mean really, what would be the point ,it wont change anything ,to be fair i disagreed with almost every move The Iron Lady made ....but she set a course and unfortunately for many stuck to her guns.....its why in the end in a very British Coup she was taken out of politics .

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By *aceytopWoman
over a year ago

from a town near you

"I have a fairly good reason to hate Mrs Thatcher ,i see her as the reason people died on hospital trolleys in dirty hospital corridors because of the NHS cuts in the 80s ,including my poor old mom left on a trolley with a brain hemorrhage and only offered two aspirins in the 14 hours she waited for a doctor, she left us a week later.....but you know what ,i don't wish the lady dead ,I mean really, what would be the point ,it wont change anything ,to be fair i disagreed with almost every move The Iron Lady made ....but she set a course and unfortunately for many stuck to her guns.....its why in the end in a very British Coup she was taken out of politics ."
i dont like her either but very well said

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

Looking at the posts on here I wonder why we bother with people on this site!

We have also had a similar conversation on another forum and although there has been dislike for Mrs Thatchers policies, there has been none of the hatred seen on this thread! Perhaps because it's free to join, that makes a difference...

I was surprised at Zoe! "Evil witch"? And then say you try to make out you don't wish evil on her? Doh!

There have been others who as has been said, haven't a clue what went on because they were too young (Doc 84) who was only 6 at the time she LEFT power and has only only heresay but still spit venom and bile! Of course, these people will love Blair and his cronies, they offered them money at every election... I may not have liked a politician, but to hate someone so violently, speakes volumes about the hater...

In 1979, 29 million working days were lost in the UK, through strikes. They cripled the country and held the rest of us to ransome. In 1990, when Margaret Thatcher left powe, it was down to 2 million. Is anyone really saying that 29 million days lost through srtikes was a good thing?

Some of you really dismay me with your judgmental attitude and hatred......

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran

very selective in the use of statistics

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By *omnlynneCouple
over a year ago

milton keynes

it would also bear well to remember that it wasnt her alone she was the head of a cabinet the likes of norman (on ya bike) tebbit and others like howe who even had the gaul to contemplate letting liverpool die economically and but for the likes of heseltine it would have happened.

she was a figurehead no more no less.

lets also remember that as a country there was an election and she won so the policies she inflicted with the rest of the tories of the time we voted for the same way we voted for blair/brown

next time theres an election maybe we will think hard before we put an X in the box as the old adage goes be careful what you wish for.....

regardless comparing her to stalin and hitler etc is ludicrous i wont be sad to see her pass but i hope she dies with the dignity that we all deserve.

she did cause the greed is good society destroy communities and wreak havoc with the workforce of this country but at the end of the day that was nigh on 30 years ago she should be allowed to pass and no state funeral but to be buried privately with family left to grieve the passing of a mother

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have just watched the film. Meryl Streep puts in an incredible performance, it's a shame the film concentrated on her alzheimers more than her rise to power and what happened whilst she was PM.

Thoughts please???

There will be a fair few south of line having a shindig tto, believe it baby!

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By *omnlynneCouple
over a year ago

milton keynes

in addition to the 29 million days lost to strikes how many days were lost to her overseeing 3 million plus unemployed because of the policies she oversaw?

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"very selective in the use of statistics"

They ARE the statistics of what I said.. No more, no less... In 1979, 29 million days lost through strikes. In 1990, 2 million lost through strikes!

How can that be selective? Just bare bones...

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By *ex.IncCouple
over a year ago

Castleford

"We'd attend - to make sure the evil bitch was actually dead. Z"

Well said that man.

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By *ex.IncCouple
over a year ago

Castleford

Another topic of flamebait. Good job OP. I thought people would have kept religion and politics far away from here as it only causes problems.

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran

"very selective in the use of statistics

They ARE the statistics of what I said.. No more, no less... In 1979, 29 million days lost through strikes. In 1990, 2 million lost through strikes!

How can that be selective? Just bare bones...

!984 25 million lost because of her

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"very selective in the use of statistics

They ARE the statistics of what I said.. No more, no less... In 1979, 29 million days lost through strikes. In 1990, 2 million lost through strikes!

Oh and the days lost were because of Scargill! Funny how people never remember how he lead the miners into the fire pit for his own political aims. Funny how no one remembers that he was OK being kept by the union.

How can that be selective? Just bare bones...

!984 25 million lost because of her"

Now who is beling selective?

That was the miners strike that caused the rise and that was for one year only. I never said that it was a smooth transition, I said at the beginning was this figure and at the end was another figure!

If you are going to try smoke and mirrors, make sure you actually have oily rags and sheets of glass!

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran

"very selective in the use of statistics

They ARE the statistics of what I said.. No more, no less... In 1979, 29 million days lost through strikes. In 1990, 2 million lost through strikes!

How can that be selective? Just bare bones...

!984 25 million lost because of her

Now who is beling selective?

If you are going to try smoke and mirrors, make sure you actually have oily rags and sheets of glass!"

Well the way you used your stats suggested that the norm was 27m before she came to power which wasnt the case thats why you were being selective and you didnt mention record unemploment record interest rates record difference between rich and poor

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It amazes me how many experts we have on here that seem to know what went off and how us ungrateful northern monkeys should be grateful for what the great leader did for us.

Were you living in areas that were left to rot for years and years, as they deliberately witheld funding from us until once proud communities were turned into no go areas, with almost blanket unemployment, and poverty rife? What was mister 'ten bob' income tax doing at 15? I bet he wasnt being fed in soup kitchens and risking life and limb everyday by burrowing into railway embankments using crude 18th century mining techniques just to be able to get coal for the elderly residents and the rest of the community.

We were bled dry round here by the obnoxious woman and her cronies, big business getting themselves fat on the privatisation of the country's assets while the areas that were deemed some kind of enemy territory were unceremoniously decimated with a venom much worse than anything said on here.

So yes, I hate the woman , I hate what she did to our communities (Many of which were only just getting back on their feet in the last year or two, after regeneration programmes instigated by labour, so i have litle hope in any further improvement coming from the current lot),I hate what she did to the weak, the old and the poor in our communities, I hate the fact that our schools were so poorly funded that they were basically run by kids.

Then again i didnt ought to be surprised with the 'I'm alright Jack' mentalities on here as, after all that is her legacy

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

I voted against her at every opportunity, gave money and food to the miners and was an active Labour Party member and worked incredibly hard to defeat her.

But I have a grudging respect. A lot of what she did paid off in the end and unemployment eventually fell.

The best friend the working class have is full employment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There have been others who as has been said, haven't a clue what went on because they were too young (Doc 84) who was only 6 at the time she LEFT power and has only only heresay but still spit venom and bile! Of course, these people will love Blair and his cronies, they offered them money at every election... I may not have liked a politician, but to hate someone so violently, speakes volumes about the hater...

I may have been 6, but i can still remember my parents struggling and my brother explaining to me why i seen my my parents crying one night as they could barely afford to keep a roof over our heads, who the hell are you to tell me about what i experienced.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have just watched the film. Meryl Streep puts in an incredible performance, it's a shame the film concentrated on her alzheimers more than her rise to power and what happened whilst she was PM.

Thoughts please???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will make sure I am not in the north when she has her state funeral. For such liberal minded, nice and ideological people, the lefties really embarrass themselves when it comes to attacking figures like Bush and Thatcher.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

IMHO Mrs Thatcher is responsible for:-

Destruction of respect, particularly for the Police force, but also of old to young young to old and community to community. Putting the police at war with the workers is something we will never recover from.

Creating a society of division and greed, selling the council houses has a lot more to do with getting people into debt with mortgages so they can't strike than it has to do with giving people a home to own, also as said previously she made the councils invest the revenue in banks not in new housing so the current shortage of rental accomodation is a direct result.

The destruction of the countires major industries as a self contained unit.

Asset stripping by selling off all the nationalised industry's, most of the profits they made were by laying off workers who were admitedly surplus to requirements and a drain on the companies... so they went on the dole instead, letting the stock holders make profits and the tax payer paid the price!!

And worst of all destruction of the "community" by making the aim personal gain, greed and debt that haunts us all today have a lot to do her policies. Most (including me) were too foolish to see the end result, until about 4 years ago!!

But all that said and done she has earned the right to a public funeral on the same level as would be given to any ex prime minister.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"very selective in the use of statistics

They ARE the statistics of what I said.. No more, no less... In 1979, 29 million days lost through strikes. In 1990, 2 million lost through strikes!

How can that be selective? Just bare bones...

!984 25 million lost because of her

Now who is beling selective?

If you are going to try smoke and mirrors, make sure you actually have oily rags and sheets of glass!

No mention on here from the Labour supporters about the inflation rate under the Labour government. The average rise in inflation in the 70's was 13%, during the Labour government, this raised to 25%. This would have hit everyone in their pockets.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Will make sure I am not in the north when she has her state funeral. For such liberal minded, nice and ideological people, the lefties really embarrass themselves when it comes to attacking figures like Bush and Thatcher. "

I would describe myself as quite liberal and yet I would never agree to denying a person, PM or not the right to a respectful funeral!

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By *ovedupstillCouple
over a year ago

mullinwire

cba to read the entire thread because it will just be the same vitriol and disgusting abuse aimed at someone that done 'what she thought' was best for the country at the time.

look at facts, in her time the union grip on the country was broken, and we got back to making the country run again, hence being prosperous under the last labour government, then once they get into power, it all goes back to the unions and we are in the same situation now.

i was brought up in the Midlands

did i love maggie? i was too young, but i know my old man never had a good word to say about her (staunch labourite that even didnt vote red in the last election, so tells you something).

my old dear liked her, although didnt do our family many favours, we benefitted from the biggy, and managed to buy a 3 bed house for £13k.

for me, she was a better premiere than many that went before, or have come since.

and i will be saving my dance for Blair, thank you very much!!!

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

If you imagine the amount of variables we face when driving a car ,imagine them as a prime minister ,no prime minister can be in office and not make an error,the nature of the job means situations change quickly,and at the end of the day no matter what PM is in office ,we the people put them there ,we LEND them OUR power for a maximum of 5 years and if we are not happy chuck em out .

We put Thatcher and Blair and all the others in power and the only time i feel anger is when they do not carry out their manifesto of commitments without good reason,or act in a manner deleterious to the nation.

We need to remember they are public servants who we hire and fire as we collectively wish .

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By *ovedupstillCouple
over a year ago

mullinwire

"If you imagine the amount of variables we face when driving a car ,imagine them as a prime minister ,no prime minister can be in office and not make an error,the nature of the job means situations change quickly,and at the end of the day no matter what PM is in office ,we the people put them there ,we LEND them OUR power for a maximum of 5 years and if we are not happy chuck em out .

We need to remember they are public servants who we hire and fire as we collectively wish . "

hear hear

the day a PM puts a manifestos promises into law is the day i start taking politics seriously again

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.

mrs thatcher defended our country from outside inteference!.

think it was ted heath who 'took' us in?"

yes!,edward heath did take us into a purely european trading union in very early 70s,but as recently as 4-5 years ago blair & brown signed away all our rights to govern ourselves to brussells despite promising us a referendum!,that was why a shamefaced gordon brown crept in a day later than all ther other signees and went in through the back door to sign the documents going back on all the promises he had made.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well this "Dick head northerner" will be having a party along with many others when she dies

We are akways told this wonderful women saved and modernised this country but you have to wonder why that meant the destruction of proud working communities

With you mate the bitch abused the country, sold off assets so the idle rich could get richer I will be celebrating when she is 6 ft under for sure and thousands of others will too.

Considering no-one can beat the Blair/Brown genius of selling off 60% of Britains gold reserves when gold was at an all time low - and then mismanaged the economy to the extent we all know - i'd personally love to see her in power again now.

Pretty sure she'd do a hell of a better job than any current 'career politician'.

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By *ixson-BallsMan
over a year ago

Blackpool

I lived in a council house when Mrs T was in power...I was young ,militant, and had fire in my belly...

I stood toe to toe with the lads at Orgreave, got chinned by a copper for it...

I detested the woman... but hindsight is a wonderful thing and now i'm older, wiser and due to the policies of the Thatcher government a lot more affluent,AS are most of the friends I stood toe to toe with!!

she'll get my grudging respect when she goes for giving me and this country the kick up the arse it needed

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

mrs thatcher defended our country from outside inteference!.

think it was ted heath who 'took' us in?

The biggest mistake Ted made was giving in to the last minute signing of a document, 1 hour before the ceremony of the signing of our Entry ,he was told without it the ceremony could not take place ,being pro European he trusted and signed it ....It was the Common Agricultural Policy ...putting 30 quid a week on everyone's shopping bill

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.

"the biggest mistake Ted made was giving in to the last minute signing of a document, 1 hour before the ceremony of the signing of our Entry ,he was told without it the ceremony could not take place ,being pro European he trusted and signed it ....It was the Common Agricultural Policy ...putting 30 quid a week on everyone's shopping bill"

30 quid was a weeks wage in 1972,how on earth did we manage?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

30 quid was a weeks wage in 1972,how on earth did we manage?.

that is todays rate ,it represents 47% of the EU budget ,thank god its reducing next year ..

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.

With you mate the bitch abused the country, sold off assets so the idle rich could get richer I will be celebrating when she is 6 ft under for sure and thousands of others will too.

Pretty sure she'd do a hell of a better job than any current 'career politician'."

can offer my spade and an hour or two of my time to dig a big hole for blair-brown if needed?,but would prefer to give a gallon or two of unleaded and see the bastards burn!.

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

"I don't think there will be any rioting as the pondlife that rioted last summer weren't even born when Maggie was doing her thang!

The soap dodgers wont miss out on the chance of a riot..especially during the summer when uni is closed and Mummy and Daddy are away in Cloisters for a few weeks..

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

She appeared to look at the so called 'working classes' as if they were shit under her shoe..and epitomised everything that is the conservative ideal..but you have to give her credit, she rose to the top in what is predominately a male dominated world..even if she did hoodwink a lot of housewifes into thinking she was 'one of them' by having publicity videos and pictures of herself taking buying food in the high street..

Love her or loath her she was a very clever and powerful woman..

Anyone remember the Spitting image doll of her though...smoking a cigar and standing up for a piss!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone remember the Spitting image doll of her though...smoking a cigar and standing up for a piss!

Spitting Image caught the moment of the times perfectly in their charicatures. I wish they'd bring that prog back and inject some humour into politics. MP's were of the opinion that if they made it onto Spitting Image they'd 'arrived' as policitians.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

can offer my spade and an hour or two of my time to dig a big hole for blair-brown if needed?,but would prefer to give a gallon or two of unleaded and see the bastards burn!.

I'd much rather they were left alive to see how good a country can be when run properly.

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

"She appeared to look at the so called 'working classes' as if they were shit under her shoe..and epitomised everything that is the conservative ideal..but you have to give her credit, she rose to the top in what is predominately a male dominated world..even if she did hoodwink a lot of housewifes into thinking she was 'one of them' by having publicity videos and pictures of herself taking buying food in the high street..

Love her or loath her she was a very clever and powerful woman..

Anyone remember the Spitting image doll of her though...smoking a cigar and standing up for a piss!

In the restaurant with the cabinet...

Waitress:How would you like your steak Sir?

Mrs T:Raw

Waitress:And the vegetables?

Mrs T:They'll have the same

Was watching some Spitting Image a few weeks ago on YouTube and realised that was the only time I could ever name the entire cabinet - and I wasn't even old enough to vote at that time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

she had balls il give her that, but she also destroyed entire communities the length and breadth of the country, she created your sink estates with the right to buy, in principle a great idea as when you buy your house and time goes on and you need care you can sell it to pay for your care leaving zilch to show for your hard work! the poll tax, now there was another great policy!

but her policies could have been reversed when the government changed leaders.....

the removal of education grants just so you working classes didnt get ideas above your station...

i for one will raise a glass when she shuffles off and not being mean but i hope she dies with dignity as alzehimers a terrible disease that i wouldnt wish on my worst enemy!

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

"Anyone remember the Spitting image doll of her though...smoking a cigar and standing up for a piss!

I dont think will happen Wish...everyone is too worried about being sued these days..I think it was David Steel who actually blamed his parties loss in one of the elections of the early eighties solely on his caricature..

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over a year ago

"Anyone remember the Spitting image doll of her though...smoking a cigar and standing up for a piss!

I guess it was easier for Steel to blame Spitting Image than analyse his party's policies for failing to win an election.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Anyone remember the Spitting image doll of her though...smoking a cigar and standing up for a piss!

politicians now are so bland I think they would have trouble making puppets that people would recognise.

My fav puppet in the 80's was Tebbit with his leather bover boy jacket

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A woman so deluded her party ousted her and preferred John Major. It says a lot about how poor she had become.

I wouldn't wish her harm but have little interest if she lives or dies.

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

"Anyone remember the Spitting image doll of her though...smoking a cigar and standing up for a piss!

I guess it was easier for Steel to blame Spitting Image than analyse his party's policies for failing to win an election.

A politician shifting the blame onto someone else?...come on, as if!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never been convinced of the need for her to have a state funeral, Churchill was almost universally admired for his WW2 leadership, though he didnt really have a chance to make a hash of too many domestic policies.

Thatcher splits opinion to such an extent it would be hard to justify it being in the interest of the vast majority of the public to hold one. Although if some rich Tory grandees want to donate lots of money to hold a lavish funeral for her then that is upto them, big society and all.

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