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"I forgot something I left at the office today so had to make a three hour round trip for the second time today. Currently just left Liverpool St. On the way back a woman came up to me. She said she wasn't d*unk and has been asking everyone all night for change. She said she is burying her mum tomorrow and needs seventeen quid for a place for the night. I don't like to just ignore the homeless even if I have nothing to give, I still like to say sorry and acknowledge them. I used to give monthly to charity but have since stopped since I don't believe most of my money goes to the grass roots but that's another topic. Instead I give water and food if I have any. Mostly I come across them outside Tesco and would offer to get a chocolate or sandwich or drink if I'm going in too. But I had no money, only a twenty note and no shops are open at this time currently. Now I just feel bad. The guilt will probably last beyond tonight when I go to sleep. I'm not asking for affirmation of my decision or anything. It's just frustrating and my conscience is going to drive me batty. " Asking for a specific amount like £17 is an old trick. Some bloke tried it with me outside a supermarket. He wanted £2.50 for the bus to take him to the doctors he said. I asked him where, then said id give him a lift. He then said he was meeting his mate and they were both going. Fine, we can pick him up as well i said. He then told me to fuck off. Dont feel guilty. | |||
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"Last time I try to give some food to a homeless girl she was rude and said rather me to give her the money...oh well I try.. " this is what I do now , well did ,,,, before lockdown | |||
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"So you should have give her the £20 why come on here to tell us about it?" No. Are you trolling? I notice you disagree with my posts. Even when I say Marathon and Snickers are definitely not the same! No, I can't go around giving out money to everyone. Even today I encountered two homeless people. Normally it is double figures if I go for a stroll on my lunch break pre lockdown. No my point is its shitty if you ignore them and yet shitty if you can't help them but take a second to 'care'? Not sure if that's the right word. I'm bloody tired! I've noticed some are professional beggars, some will just take your money then go and score some drugs or at the very least fags or booze. In any case, I'm still grafting and I need to pay bills. Doesn't stop me feeling bad though. | |||
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"So you should have give her the £20 why come on here to tell us about it?" Cause it’s a public forum, some people aren’t interested in playing word games | |||
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"So you should have give her the £20 why come on here to tell us about it?No. Are you trolling? I notice you disagree with my posts. Even when I say Marathon and Snickers are definitely not the same! No, I can't go around giving out money to everyone. Even today I encountered two homeless people. Normally it is double figures if I go for a stroll on my lunch break pre lockdown. No my point is its shitty if you ignore them and yet shitty if you can't help them but take a second to 'care'? Not sure if that's the right word. I'm bloody tired! I've noticed some are professional beggars, some will just take your money then go and score some drugs or at the very least fags or booze. In any case, I'm still grafting and I need to pay bills. Doesn't stop me feeling bad though. " Trolling not at all I'm asking you why are you moaning? | |||
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"So you should have give her the £20 why come on here to tell us about it? Cause it’s a public forum, some people aren’t interested in playing word games " Like daisy? | |||
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"Where would she stay ? I thought hotels were shut unless you are a key worker." They are being used to house the homeless. Local authorities have a duty to offer any rough sleepers temporarily accommodation at the moment. | |||
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"Where would she stay ? I thought hotels were shut unless you are a key worker." Don't know. I tried to Google 'London hostel £17' and saw hostels. Would these be open to homeless? Homeless shelters charged £2-5 from my search. Emergency shelters are an option but she would have missed the cut off anyway. That was my haphazard research as I was walking at pace from Chancery Lane to Liverpool St to catch the train. | |||
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"Where would she stay ? I thought hotels were shut unless you are a key worker.Don't know. I tried to Google 'London hostel £17' and saw hostels. Would these be open to homeless? Homeless shelters charged £2-5 from my search. Emergency shelters are an option but she would have missed the cut off anyway. That was my haphazard research as I was walking at pace from Chancery Lane to Liverpool St to catch the train. " https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/26/london-mayor-rough-sleeper-funding-run-out-sadiq-khan-homeless-hotels This is a very useful link. The woman would not have made to date for accommodation because the state is paying for it at the moment. | |||
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"If I could get her food I would have. I cudda done with a bottle of water myself but nothing is open after 11 not that she wanted food but instead money for a hostel. But yeah I thought all homeless were housed under lockdown but wasn't it on the news that the arrangement had ended? Anyway, I'm gonna try and remember to take a bunch of bananas with me next week just in case. Probably would get told to shove it up my arse though Anyway, ten more mins then I'll make myself a cuppa. Things are always better after a cuppa supposedly. " You did what you had to do it's all good no offence meant xxx | |||
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"She might not have been homeless though. She might have travelled from her home elsewhere to be in London for her mum's funeral the next day. " she didn't have a big bag of belongings but had a small rucksack but I wasn't making an analysis at that point. Thinking back I still wouldn't know which way to call it whether she was genuine or not. But I guess the more desperate ones always arouse suspicion more. | |||
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"So you should have give her the £20 why come on here to tell us about it?No. Are you trolling? I notice you disagree with my posts. Even when I say Marathon and Snickers are definitely not the same! No, I can't go around giving out money to everyone. Even today I encountered two homeless people. Normally it is double figures if I go for a stroll on my lunch break pre lockdown. No my point is its shitty if you ignore them and yet shitty if you can't help them but take a second to 'care'? Not sure if that's the right word. I'm bloody tired! I've noticed some are professional beggars, some will just take your money then go and score some drugs or at the very least fags or booze. In any case, I'm still grafting and I need to pay bills. Doesn't stop me feeling bad though. " Why should he have felt bad, that’s just stupid, Yes there are things that are needed to be done to help, but when we work hard to earn what we earn n happy to help for me I’d rather buy a cup of coffee n a sandwich I’d never give cash. Well done you for posting such a sensitive subject, but just in future buy them a coffee if your inclined but never feel guilty | |||
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"Please don't feel bad because at the moment all rough sleepers are being offered hotel accommodation or hostel accommodation regardless of whether they would normally qualify." Media propaganda I afraid , well it is in the part of London I live, the homeless are sleeping in the same spots as they always, | |||
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"I once shared a bag of crisps with a homeless man, till he told me to buy my own one! " | |||
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"I forgot something I left at the office today so had to make a three hour round trip for the second time today. Currently just left Liverpool St. On the way back a woman came up to me. She said she wasn't d*unk and has been asking everyone all night for change. She said she is burying her mum tomorrow and needs seventeen quid for a place for the night. I don't like to just ignore the homeless even if I have nothing to give, I still like to say sorry and acknowledge them. I used to give monthly to charity but have since stopped since I don't believe most of my money goes to the grass roots but that's another topic. Instead I give water and food if I have any. Mostly I come across them outside Tesco and would offer to get a chocolate or sandwich or drink if I'm going in too. But I had no money, only a twenty note and no shops are open at this time currently. Now I just feel bad. The guilt will probably last beyond tonight when I go to sleep. I'm not asking for affirmation of my decision or anything. It's just frustrating and my conscience is going to drive me batty. " Don't feel bad. I'm guessing she might be lying, homeless generally get housed with covid free. And if she is telling truth I'd stay up all night for a funeral if needed. I'm not usually so sceptical but I was conned last week for £2.70 for "baby milk" and then he walked off opposite direction from shop I just tell myself that I'm lucky that I can afford to give it, they're desperate and I might have stopped them mugging some old woman. And when I dont give I always feel guilty too | |||
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