FabSwingers.com forum: Black lives matter

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

There should be a thread up.

We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk!

We need to be better!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hell yes!!!

Fuck racism! Fuck discrimination! Fuck police brutality!

I’m sorry...injustice gets me really angry...

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"There should be a thread up.

We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk!

We need to be better! "

All lives matter.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There should be a thread up.

We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk!

We need to be better!

All lives matter."

This boils my piss.

Of course all lives matter. But black lives are the ones in danger right now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There should be a thread up.

We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk!

We need to be better!

All lives matter."

All lives don’t get put at risk by dangerous stereotyping and profiling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There should be a thread up.

We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk!

We need to be better!

All lives matter.

This boils my piss.

Of course all lives matter. But black lives are the ones in danger right now.

Three words:

I CAN’T BREATHE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

We shouldn’t be standing up just because this guy was black . We should be standing up because a man, a human was mistreated in a manner which goes against everything and lost his life because of the actions of another human !

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

It’s not #BlackLivesMatterMore or #JustBlackLivesMatter it’s that they matter, why is that such a difficult concept for people to understand?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

You are completely missing the point! And this response is part of the problem.

Yes. ALL lives matter. We should all be equal. We are all equal in my eyes. But we are not the same! We are not in danger simply because we are white. BLACK lives are the ones at risk right now. They are who need our help. You wouldn't stop shining a light on breast cancer research because other cancers exist, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

It’s not #BlackLivesMatterMore or #JustBlackLivesMatter it’s that they matter, why is that such a difficult concept for people to understand? "

All lives matter, colour is irrelevant x

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

You are completely missing the point! And this response is part of the problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There should be a thread up.

We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk!

We need to be better!

All lives matter.

This boils my piss.

Of course all lives matter. But black lives are the ones in danger right now.

Three words:

I CAN’T BREATHE "

The number of times that gets used during an arrest....

This case was very sad though and possibly not helped by the above....

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

All lives is very important.

It’s just some of the All doesn’t seem to matter at the moment hence Black Lives Matter.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

You are completely missing the point! And this response is part of the problem.

Perfect response

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There should be a thread up.

We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk!

We need to be better!

All lives matter."

Why do people do this ?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try to be black person in a racist society for a day and you will change your views.. !

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

So are you saying that no white person has ever died from police brutality?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

It’s not #BlackLivesMatterMore or #JustBlackLivesMatter it’s that they matter, why is that such a difficult concept for people to understand?

All lives matter, colour is irrelevant x "

To think colour is irrelevant is pretty naive. If he had been white it wouldn’t have even escalated to an arrest, that’s how different it is. White people can go for a jog through a nice neighbourhood without people shooting because they think they’re criminals. Not acknowledging privilege is part of the problem.

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

You are completely missing the point! And this response is part of the problem.

This 100%. If you don't know what white privilige is it's because you're white and priviged!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If a house is on fire, do you throw water on all the other houses in the street first because all houses matter?

No. You throw water on the one in flames...cos that's the one fucking burning!

Fuck off with your ALL lives matter. White people aren't being murdered by racist cops! Black lives are in danger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We all just need to continue to educate our children & have severe consequences towards any form of racism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a house is on fire, do you throw water on all the other houses in the street first because all houses matter?

No. You throw water on the one in flames...cos that's the one fucking burning!

Fuck off with your ALL lives matter. White people aren't being murdered by racist cops! Black lives are in danger. "

If you’re white and don’t understand that yes life can be shit, but you will always be more privileged....then where have you been hiding?!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

So are you saying that no white person has ever died from police brutality? "

Nope. Not saying that at all.

Are you suggesting the numbers are equal?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!"
pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

Oh my god really?

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By *ungscotsman26Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Had it on my status. Blacklivesmatter.

And to those saying all lives matter. Yes they do. But I don't see whites get treated that way. Racism is deeply rooted particularly in America.

Have you seen the video of the white person in the car waving at the camera feeling totally comfortable.

The next car along has black people. Police force entry and taser them. Disgrace.

Meanwhile trump hides in his bunker. The shame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve stayed quiet about this on fab because I know fine well I’ll get myself in trouble because I’m too passionate. And I think, going by this thread, I will indeed stay quiet and not read all the replies.

But yes. Black lives matter. That doesn’t mean WHITE lives don’t matter.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately."

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Young man your missing the point..!!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Black lives matter. Solidarity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately."

Or the fact that nearly 70% of people shot by police in America in the first 3 months of this year we’re white

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I’ve stayed quiet about this on fab because I know fine well I’ll get myself in trouble because I’m too passionate. And I think, going by this thread, I will indeed stay quiet and not read all the replies.

But yes. Black lives matter. That doesn’t mean WHITE lives don’t matter. "

I considered saying nothing for the same reason.

But I can't. I can't be silent on this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!"
if you say racism doesn't work both ways you're delusional.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"There should be a thread up.

We need to be talking about this! Especially us white folk!

We need to be better!

All lives matter."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!if you say racism doesn't work both ways you're delusional. "

No, she’s right.

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By *ungscotsman26Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Police are meant to be there to protect people. Not kill them.

Also reported last nights news that in Washington the vast majority were peaceful protests. But that camera crews witnessed people standing on their doorsteps peacefully protest be shot at with rubber bullets by the police.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But yes. Black lives matter. That doesn’t mean WHITE lives don’t matter.

I considered saying nothing for the same reason.

But I can't. I can't be silent on this."

You should try being black.

I've learned to be silent over the years.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! ST

OP WHITEWASHING SHIT!"

Think you need to calm down.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Oh for God's sake

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The police were kneeling with the protesters. Photos were taken. Then they began to shoot, throw tear gas etc. You only need to go on twitter to see how just bad it is.

People riot because they haven’t been heard.

Protests at the beginning of May because of covid19. White people were screaming in the polices faces, nothing was done. Black people do a peaceful protest? Hmm...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s sickening and not getting any better...believe me as parents of Children who have been on the receiving end way too early in life nothing upsets us more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately."

Incidents of black on white violence does not equal the same as a pattern and a history of discriminatory behaviour. The likelihood of a white person even having the police called on them in the George Floyd situation is close to zero. Look at all the videos of police being called because black people dare to walk round or even, god forbid, live in a nice neighbourhood.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! ST

OP WHITEWASHING SHIT!

Think you need to calm down."

I'll calm down when people aren't being murdered by our police, governments and other institutions.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It’s sickening and not getting any better...believe me as parents of Children who have been on the receiving end way too early in life nothing upsets us more."

Solidarity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

It’s not #BlackLivesMatterMore or #JustBlackLivesMatter it’s that they matter, why is that such a difficult concept for people to understand?

All lives matter, colour is irrelevant x

Its not naive, its topia. Its the perfect world, the 'naivity' to it is that unfortunately your right in what you say.

I just live my life where colour is irrelevant to me as a human is a human x

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!"

Racism does work both ways. If people believe it doesn't, then they are delusional. I've seen examples of all kinds of racism, even black on black racism. No one is whitewashing (am I allowed to use that term even?) and it was horrific what happened, it doesn't excuse the rioting and looting. I hope the police officer responsible gets locked up for life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Uh oh

All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Uh oh

All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand.....

Helpful....

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Uh oh

All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand.....

Why is that??

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!

No it doesn't.

Racism towards black people has been going on for 100s of years. Systematic racism. Ingrained social racism. White people do not deal with that. At all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Uh oh

All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand.....

We know we won’t ever understand. We’re white, and we’re privileged. But you can stand together.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a thread up last night.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Uh oh

All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand.....

We know we won’t ever understand. We’re white, and we’re privileged. But you can stand together. "

Exactly.

We need to learn. We need to discuss it. We need to wake the fuck up.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I am white. I recognise my privilege. This doesn't erase my other privileges. It just means I don't suffer from this particular systemic oppression, and may benefit from it.

I'm horrified by what's happening. Not just in the US. I'm horrified by attempts to erase or minimise it. And that is not enough, and I'm working to do more.

Black lives matter.

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

People saying “all lives matter” either arent getting it, are inherently prejudiced or just dont understand why black people speaking up makes them feel uncomfortable.

In short, rather than post “all lives matter” try to understand first.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"People saying “all lives matter” either arent getting it, are inherently prejudiced or just dont understand why black people speaking up makes them feel uncomfortable.

In short, rather than post “all lives matter” try to understand first."

I'll be honest. Sometimes stuff like this makes me uncomfortable.

I have to get over my shit when that happens.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!

No it doesn't.

Racism towards black people has been going on for 100s of years. Systematic racism. Ingrained social racism. White people do not deal with that. At all. "

Having experienced this myself, I can confirm it does exist. I dealt with it when I lived abroad. Thanks for your input.

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

I find this thread hugely depressing. I'm white, and I'm very glad of that. I have no idea what it's like to be black. But I do know that if you are black you are disproportionately likely to be arrested, and to die in police custody. When people say black lives matter, they aren't saying back lives matter more, just that black lives matter EVERY BIT AS MUCH!

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"People saying “all lives matter” either arent getting it, are inherently prejudiced or just dont understand why black people speaking up makes them feel uncomfortable.

In short, rather than post “all lives matter” try to understand first.

I'll be honest. Sometimes stuff like this makes me uncomfortable.

I have to get over my shit when that happens."

Thats fine! We should feel uncomfortable! What we shouldnt do is use our priviledge to diminish the BLM movement with empty platitudes about how “all loves matter”.

If we feel uncomfortable we must educate ourselves, learn to understand & LISTEN to what people are saying. We’ll never fully understand, but we can learn to all be more empathetic.

Feeling uncomfortable is a good thing as long as we use that feeling correctly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People saying “all lives matter” either arent getting it, are inherently prejudiced or just dont understand why black people speaking up makes them feel uncomfortable.

In short, rather than post “all lives matter” try to understand first.

I'll be honest. Sometimes stuff like this makes me uncomfortable.

I have to get over my shit when that happens.

Thats fine! We should feel uncomfortable! What we shouldnt do is use our priviledge to diminish the BLM movement with empty platitudes about how “all loves matter”.

If we feel uncomfortable we must educate ourselves, learn to understand & LISTEN to what people are saying. We’ll never fully understand, but we can learn to all be more empathetic.

Feeling uncomfortable is a good thing as long as we use that feeling correctly!"

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"I find this thread hugely depressing. I'm white, and I'm very glad of that. I have no idea what it's like to be black. But I do know that if you are black you are disproportionately likely to be arrested, and to die in police custody. When people say black lives matter, they aren't saying back lives matter more, just that black lives matter EVERY BIT AS MUCH! "

Totally agree.

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By *etite_delightWoman
over a year ago

BunnyLand

Totally agree.

That

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By *edbath 5Man
over a year ago

london

Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?

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By *ungscotsman26Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Unfortunately as long as Trump is in charge not much will change. Potentially bringing in the army to sort it out.

And refuses to admit there is an issue or talk about it. It's just all about his power and how he can enforce it. Sad times.

Keep fighting for what's right.

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By *ungscotsman26Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Exactly

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Ok if this is to be discussed people need to stick within the forum rules or it will end up being pulled.

Stay calm people, stop attacking each other, if you think someone doesn't understand what you are saying, explain it rather than attack

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?"

We all need to be better at challenging systemic racism. We need to listen more & we need to be more open to reducing our own privilege to increase that of others. We need to stand strong & use our given privilege to empower others without that. That means holding power to account & educating the next generation properly.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Uh oh

All the white folks arguing with one another about something they don't understand.....

We know we won’t ever understand. We’re white, and we’re privileged. But you can stand together.

Exactly.

We need to learn. We need to discuss it. We need to wake the fuck up. "

That surely involves listening to all and taking all points on board and respecting them and staying calm and going about things constructively with consideration? Even wrt the ppl you disagree with, or else you're saying they don't matter so much....

Humans seem to love a good fight, idk why...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about talk about politics on the politics forum and just keep the lounge forum to rating cunts and cocks

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

In the context of here, maybe people can stop labelling, viewing and using them just for their appendage now then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?

This!

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?

This!

Yep. It’s all super simple stuff really. The only thing we have to focus on is actually doing this otherwise every white person who has spoken up to then do nothing has wasted everyones time. We have to say it AND mean it.

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By *edbath 5Man
over a year ago

london

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 02/06/20 10:46:52]"

Are you white?

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By *edbath 5Man
over a year ago

london

"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?

work 6 days a week. I have done most of my life. I live in a council house. My boss is from Nigeria. Lives in a 5 bedroom house he owns that was paid for by his rich father. I’ve met his wife and 3 kids. All lovely people. The wife and kids don’t have had to work bit still respectable people Me and the 12 of us will do anything for his company due to being a great boss.

Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is.

If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

It’s not #BlackLivesMatterMore or #JustBlackLivesMatter it’s that they matter, why is that such a difficult concept for people to understand? "

Thanks for pointing out the obvious as some clearly don’t get it. SMH that you needed to xx

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

All lives matter."

ding ding ding.... you win the prize for the quickest patronising post!

"black lives matter!" doesn't mean just black lives matter..... it means black lives matter ALSO!!!

look... we can have a conversation about race... but anyone who uses the terms "all lives matter" or "blue lives matter" isn't ready for that chat, because you have an inherant misunderstanding of what is going on......

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?

Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is.

If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame."

This is exactly why this dicussion needs to be had. Knowing a successful black individual does not mean these people havent faced racism in their every day lives or wont face systemic racism at some point. Wealth doesnt equate a life free from prejudice for the colour of ones skin.

As well, an individual being successful does not diminish the point of the BLM movement. Many successful black people have overcame odds greater than that of any average white person. Just because your boss is well off it doesnt make him any less likely to have faced discrimination & racial profiling.

At the same time, nobody is asking you to feel guilty - we’re asking people to be understanding, empathetic, human & above all else - not racist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All lives matter.

ding ding ding.... you win the prize for the quickest patronising post!

"black lives matter!" doesn't mean just black lives matter..... it means black lives matter ALSO!!!

I really don't think that's a fair statement. In some cases yes..... but not all.

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

All lives matter.

ding ding ding.... you win the prize for the quickest patronising post!

"black lives matter!" doesn't mean just black lives matter..... it means black lives matter ALSO!!!

Perfectly put - people using these things arent understanding because they dont want to understand. Thats why they fear the BLM movement - its natural to be scared of what you cant comprehend.

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By *edbath 5Man
over a year ago

london

"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?

Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is.

If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?

Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is.

If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame."

Again - are you white?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?

Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is.

If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame."

But he will still get pulled over and racially profiled.

He will still be questioned and thought to not own his fancy car and be assumed to have stolen it

He's less likely to survive a police stop in America.

Your privilege is not about your financial status, it's to do with the fact that you are not perceived to be dangerous and treated differently Just because of the colour of you skin

And as side note black lives matter, does not mean other lives don't, it's means right now black lives matter less, so we need to shout louder for those lives, when their lives are no longer treated less than other lives, then we can say all lives matter.... But right now, unfortunately not all lives are equal

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By *esparate danMan
over a year ago

glasgow

"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?

Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is.

If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame."

Whiteys on the Moon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not read the thread. What do I NEED TO BE BETTER AT?

Please tell where my privilege over this lovely family is.

If you feel some people need to stop being racist then I fully agree. But please don’t tell me just because I’m white I need to feel shame.

Again - are you white?"

There are privileges in life that aren’t anything to do with money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The UK is one of the least racist countries I have ever had the privilege to visit, and live in albeit for a short time. Even I, with my Nigerian heritage, think that "Black lives matter" is an inflammatory statement as such and should be amended to "Black lives matter too". I have experienced very little racism in the UK and I think it is totally unfair that the good white people still suffer the accusations of racism as they are always associated with the bad. When the riots and looting happen, the good still suffer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your privilege is not about your financial status, it's to do with the fact that you are not perceived to be dangerous and treated differently Just because of the colour of you skin

Perfectly put. 100% agreement.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

All lives matter.

ding ding ding.... you win the prize for the quickest patronising post!

"black lives matter!" doesn't mean just black lives matter..... it means black lives matter ALSO!!!

I really don't think that's a fair statement. In some cases yes..... but not all. "

i think it is.... because it shows a complete nievity or lack of understanding.....

how many white people who stick their hands up at the moment and say "yes i gladly swop my position in live for a black man!"???

really???????

i believe i've had to work twice as hard and be twice as good to get to where i am at....

how many times have you had people cross the road when they see you coming?

how many times have you been stopped and searched for no reason?

you have to absolutely understand the inequilties in life and recognised and acknowledge them before we can truely talk about change...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just seen my army mate put up a post about Lee rigby who was killed by 2 black men .. no body rioted then did they he says

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All lives matter, it wasnt good what happened, but that doesnt give the right or a reason to destroy and loot a town, for example take the white farmers in south afrika, they are attacked everyday there, there the statistics is even worse then the usa.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you, someone posted it.

Black lives matter, its so important that we focus on that and stop trying to make this inclusive of everyone. Society has been focused on keeping white people comfortable for too long. It's time to look at and acknowledge the uncomfortable truth that our society is built on years and years of racist behaviours and attitudes.

Its up to us to change that.

I'll say it again, black lives matter.

(also, this is a great thread for blocking the "all lives matter" crowd)

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"The UK is one of the least racist countries I have ever had the privilege to visit, and live in albeit for a short time. Even I, with my Nigerian heritage, think that "Black lives matter" is an inflammatory statement as such and should be amended to "Black lives matter too". I have experienced very little racism in the UK and I think it is totally unfair that the good white people still suffer the accusations of racism as they are always associated with the bad. When the riots and looting happen, the good still suffer. "

Have to say very well put

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All lives matter.

ding ding ding.... you win the prize for the quickest patronising post!

"black lives matter!" doesn't mean just black lives matter..... it means black lives matter ALSO!!!

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

Again - this needs to stop. We have to stop equating our own PERSONAL experience with it being the experience of a vast number of people. Growing up with a black best friend I can tell you that the UK is as racist as anywhere else. His skin colour was the source of abuse he recieved & I have seen him racially profiled by police on several occasions. The UK has also deported legal citizens to countries they were never born or lived in purely because of their black heritage.

Just because YOU dont see something - it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"How about talk about politics on the politics forum and just keep the lounge forum to rating cunts and cocks

how about that if you find a topic you don't want to talk about... do something radical and pass it by!

you don't need to post.... you can close your eyes.....

this is the most patronising bullshit.....

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Thank you, someone posted it.

Its up to us to change that.

I'll say it again, black lives matter.

(also, this is a great thread for blocking the "all lives matter" crowd) "

I’m using it for that too. I think i’m wasting time trying to educate with the thinly veiled racists

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The all lives matter crap disgusts me. No one is saying only black lives matter. No one is saying all lives dont matter. Until black lives matter all lives cannot matter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As far as I’m concerned I’ll continue to call out any racism if I encounter it in person as I have done all my days but there’s not much else a little person like myself can do

I’m not allowed to have an opinion on what’s happened in America. The death of George Floyd is inexcusable and the police involved should be strung up but the people (of all races in these crowds) burning out businesses, looting and beating up property owners only works against any movement that’s looking to move forward no matter what colour your skin or what opinion you hold

That’s my two cents and no doubt it’s wrong and someone will find something to pick at

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thank you, someone posted it.

Its up to us to change that.

I'll say it again, black lives matter.

(also, this is a great thread for blocking the "all lives matter" crowd) "

Same, not many threads that get me wound up to the point of blocking! ‘All lives matter’ is an excuse to bury your heads in the sand and it only acts to silence those who are trying to be heard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All lives matter.

ding ding ding.... you win the prize for the quickest patronising post!

"black lives matter!" doesn't mean just black lives matter..... it means black lives matter ALSO!!!

I really don't think that's a fair statement. In some cases yes..... but not all.

i think it is.... because it shows a complete nievity or lack of understanding.....

how many white people who stick their hands up at the moment and say "yes i gladly swop my position in live for a black man!"???

really???????

i believe i've had to work twice as hard and be twice as good to get to where i am at....

how many times have you had people cross the road when they see you coming?

how many times have you been stopped and searched for no reason?

you have to absolutely understand the inequilties in life and recognised and acknowledge them before we can truely talk about change...

I understand all that. However you don't know what is in their heart.

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By *uke OzadeMan
over a year ago

Ho Chi Minge City

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

You are completely missing the point! And this response is part of the problem.

Try telling that to the white farmers in South Africa who are tortured and murdered daily through racial hatred. Maybe you should shine a light on them too, because from where I’m at, it’s exactly the same thing but you didn’t make a thread about them. Racial divide is wrong and humanity dictates that everyone’s life matters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just because YOU dont see something - it doesnt mean it doesnt exist."

I disagree. Personal experiences equate to a reality that mob mentality does not, and should be shared to come to a truthful conclusion. I have lived and worked in many countries of the world and my experiences are not just based on having one black friend many years ago. White people need to actually listen to black people and not make up their own versions of events.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

An analogy. If you are a parent and have 3 kids at school and one is being bullied defending and supporting the bullied kid doesn't take anything away from your love for the other 2 does it? For all 3 kids to be happy you need to address the problem of just 1.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s amazing how whenever we talk about black people being murdered everyone pipes up with ‘white people do as well!’

No one is saying that they don’t

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow what an achievement.... Least racist.... I'm sorry I don't see that as something to be proud of, because least racist still implies the racism exist, black lives still matter less, racial profiling still exists.... Thats Just not good enough for me. Sorry

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over a year ago

"As far as I’m concerned I’ll continue to call out any racism if I encounter it in person as I have done all my days but there’s not much else a little person like myself can do

That’s my two cents and no doubt it’s wrong and someone will find something to pick at "

If all the 'little people' call out racism, if we all stand together, that creates something bigger. It does make a difference.

It's not all looting. There's a lot of stories of peaceful protests. Police walking with the people.

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

Just because YOU dont see something - it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

& this is the problem - not enough white people are listening, because if they listened they wouldnt be saying stupid shit like “all lives matter”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But yes. Black lives matter. That doesn’t mean WHITE lives don’t matter.

I considered saying nothing for the same reason.

But I can't. I can't be silent on this."

Nobody is saying white lives don't. But there is an arsehole over the pond running the show, who, by his actions is saying 'Black lives are not as valuable as white'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as I’m concerned I’ll continue to call out any racism if I encounter it in person as I have done all my days but there’s not much else a little person like myself can do

That’s my two cents and no doubt it’s wrong and someone will find something to pick at

If all the 'little people' call out racism, if we all stand together, that creates something bigger. It does make a difference.

It's not all looting. There's a lot of stories of peaceful protests. Police walking with the people. "

And someone found something to pick at...

I agree with the peaceful protests nothing against them, I applaud the officers and sheriffs laying down their batons and armour to stand with the people in these protests.

I cannot agree with the few select groups who are burning businesses and streets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just because YOU dont see something - it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

& this is the problem - not enough white people are listening, because if they listened they wouldnt be saying stupid shit like “all lives matter”"

"Not enough white people are listening" is your opinion. A white person's opinion. You need to open your ears to all opinions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as I’m concerned I’ll continue to call out any racism if I encounter it in person as I have done all my days but there’s not much else a little person like myself can do

That’s my two cents and no doubt it’s wrong and someone will find something to pick at

If all the 'little people' call out racism, if we all stand together, that creates something bigger. It does make a difference.

It's not all looting. There's a lot of stories of peaceful protests. Police walking with the people.

And someone found something to pick at...

I agree with the peaceful protests nothing against them, I applaud the officers and sheriffs laying down their batons and armour to stand with the people in these protests.

I cannot agree with the few select groups who are burning businesses and streets

How am I picking at what you said? I am agreeing with you.

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

Just because YOU dont see something - it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

& this is the problem - not enough white people are listening, because if they listened they wouldnt be saying stupid shit like “all lives matter”

"Not enough white people are listening" is your opinion. A white person's opinion. You need to open your ears to all opinions."

We are. I’m listening to the black community, on here & out there. These people want equality, I am born into privilege where it is my duty to speak up & be heard, both for & with my black friends

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Cliche and whataboutery bingo card nearly full.

Eyes down for the full house.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

I think what this poster highlights is the psychological impact the term Black Lives Matter has on how we interpret what it stands for. For the poster, and clearly many others on here judging by the comments, it seems segregational and valuing one group over another. If the movement was called Fuck You Racism then more people would probably get on board.

Look into Psychological Construction and the Conceptual Act Theory for more details.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do white people on here think Black Lives Matter is an attack on them? Standing up and supporting black people does not mean you look down to white people. Your fragile egos need to understand this.

To say "all lives matter" is to dilute the issue. The issue now is that POC are being killed just for being black. This does not happen to white people.

Yes, white people have been killed by police, but black people are disproportionately killed by police.

The UK is not a perfect place. Black people get stereotyped by police all the time.

Why do you feel victimised when someone says "black lives matter"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do white people on here think Black Lives Matter is an attack on them? Standing up and supporting black people does not mean you look down to white people. Your fragile egos need to understand this.

To say "all lives matter" is to dilute the issue. The issue now is that POC are being killed just for being black. This does not happen to white people.

Yes, white people have been killed by police, but black people are disproportionately killed by police.

The UK is not a perfect place. Black people get stereotyped by police all the time.

Why do you feel victimised when someone says "black lives matter"?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as I’m concerned I’ll continue to call out any racism if I encounter it in person as I have done all my days but there’s not much else a little person like myself can do

That’s my two cents and no doubt it’s wrong and someone will find something to pick at

If all the 'little people' call out racism, if we all stand together, that creates something bigger. It does make a difference.

It's not all looting. There's a lot of stories of peaceful protests. Police walking with the people.

And someone found something to pick at...

I agree with the peaceful protests nothing against them, I applaud the officers and sheriffs laying down their batons and armour to stand with the people in these protests.

I cannot agree with the few select groups who are burning businesses and streets

How am I picking at what you said? I am agreeing with you. "

I agree with you too if we all do our parts at least we’re helping in some way but to some it’s not good enough to simply care unfortunately

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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago

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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago

Currently Faraway

Things like the George Floyd murder will continue to happen in USA...it's a clear sign of how primitive they are as a country but what exactly are we supposed to do? Threaten USA with a good spanking on the botty if they don't start treating humans of non-Caucasian origin in a civilised manner? Or maybe try to "educate" them? (heaven help us on that one!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as I’m concerned I’ll continue to call out any racism if I encounter it in person as I have done all my days but there’s not much else a little person like myself can do

That’s my two cents and no doubt it’s wrong and someone will find something to pick at

If all the 'little people' call out racism, if we all stand together, that creates something bigger. It does make a difference.

It's not all looting. There's a lot of stories of peaceful protests. Police walking with the people.

And someone found something to pick at...

I agree with the peaceful protests nothing against them, I applaud the officers and sheriffs laying down their batons and armour to stand with the people in these protests.

I cannot agree with the few select groups who are burning businesses and streets

How am I picking at what you said? I am agreeing with you.

I agree with you too if we all do our parts at least we’re helping in some way but to some it’s not good enough to simply care unfortunately

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over a year ago

To say "all lives matter" is to dilute the issue. The issue now is that POC are being killed just for being black. This does not happen to white people.

Yes, white people have been killed by police, but black people are disproportionately killed by police.

The UK is not a perfect place. Black people get stereotyped by police all the time.

Why do you feel victimised when someone says "black lives matter"?"

I think because lots of people are victimised for lots of different reasons. And we shouldn't be singling out one group of people. They aren't more important than any of the others.

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By *killsMan
over a year ago

Never Never Land

So where were all you warriors when Mugabe was ordering the killing of white farmers? Where were all the voices screaming white lives matter? Where was the white privilege when the white women were being gang r***d on his orders? Delusional hypocrites saying white people don't know what it’s like to be discriminated against

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From reading some of the posts on here what comes to mind is the 'OK Karen' thing in trend at present.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No one is born racist, its all learnt mainly taught by parents or peers...In society as general people tend to congregate with their own social ethnic or cultural peers. In our opinion that is the main issue that stops anywhere becoming a racist or prejudice free society. Who honestly has visited an area where you are the minority, be it religious, race or just cultural you feel nervous, need we say more..

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

and i swear if i hear the phrase "bad apple" one more time... someone is really going to hear it from me both barrels....

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over a year ago

To say "all lives matter" is to dilute the issue. The issue now is that POC are being killed just for being black. This does not happen to white people.

Yes, white people have been killed by police, but black people are disproportionately killed by police.

The UK is not a perfect place. Black people get stereotyped by police all the time.

Why do you feel victimised when someone says "black lives matter"?

I think because lots of people are victimised for lots of different reasons. And we shouldn't be singling out one group of people. They aren't more important than any of the others. "

Like I said in my post, this isn't saying one group is more important than another. This is a relevant issue right now which is being highlighted.

If someone feels victimised by BLM then it's on them.

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over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!

He died because someone was knealing on his wind pipe.

Stop confusing the facts with your opinion. "

No one is saying that isn't true but the problem is why was he killed? The crime didn't fit the response and this is issue. It's also why it's becoming a bigger matter as this happens in the UK aswell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All lives matter, yes, but there’s a real tangible problem in America for black people. It’s finally, tragically, a demonstrable fact.

But looting and destroying property isn’t the way to go about change. And it really does look like the violence and destruction is being committed by middle class white people hijacking BLM’s agenda.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!

He died because someone was knealing on his wind pipe.

Stop confusing the facts with your opinion.

Unfortunately it was the Police officer involved that made the decision how to handle the situation.

Until the results of the offical enquiry into the man's death are published we can only guess.

In what way is it happening in the UK?

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over a year ago

"So where were all you warriors when Mugabe was ordering the killing of white farmers? Where were all the voices screaming white lives matter? Where was the white privilege when the white women were being gang r***d on his orders? Delusional hypocrites saying white people don't know what it’s like to be discriminated against"

You're going back 20 years to give an example of racism against white people, which shows you just how rare extreme attacks on people with white skin are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How about talk about politics on the politics forum and just keep the lounge forum to rating cunts and cocks

how about that if you find a topic you don't want to talk about... do something radical and pass it by!

you don't need to post.... you can close your eyes.....

this is the most patronising bullshit....."

He has a point fella and so do you, neither are exclusively correct. How about some tolerance and respect generally

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This isn't a political issue. This isn't ideology. This is a human rights issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are a lot of racists on fab. "

Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing.

Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful

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over a year ago

"There are a lot of racists on fab.

Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing.

Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful"

Dip down into the political forum and you'll find loads of the EDL types and those who think that "trump has got a point", to those who think looting tellies is worse than executing black people suspected of minor crimes.

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over a year ago

"There are a lot of racists on fab.

Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing.

Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful

Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad?

. Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....

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By *enatton2Couple
over a year ago

West Midlands

This has been very enlightening, it’s good to know those who are looking to be educated and those who don’t want to be. The block button is now on a break.

Only those basking in the glow of white privilege could respond to black lives matter with all lives matter, whilst constantly looking for outlying incidents to try and play it down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are a lot of racists on fab.

Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing.

Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful

It's why I dont go there anymore. It's not good for my blood pressure!

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By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Racism can be against any race there is no definition that favors another race. Having said that our Western and Eastern establishments are built of racist ideals, policies, marketing and actions. In America for example it’s really detrimental to the African Americans and Native Americans. Racism isn’t right but I don’t think you are ever going to remove it, some deplorable people will use.

What we should be recognizing is governments, police forces and anywhere else that allows this to happen. I’d be amazed if that was the first time that cop did anything racist. The first time anything happened he should be up to a public board.

Until we stop accusing each other of being racist and actually start taking responsibility and actions it isn’t changing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!

He died because someone was knealing on his wind pipe.

Stop confusing the facts with your opinion.

Unfortunately it was the Police officer involved that made the decision how to handle the situation.

Until the results of the offical enquiry into the man's death are published we can only guess.

In what way is it happening in the UK?

Just look at the recent Windrush scandal or families of people being sent to countries they have never been in because the government can't find their paperwork.

If you're asking if the death of black people by police officers is happening here it does happen but at no where near the levels of the US.

You say it was the police officers decision to act that way but there were 3 others with him pinning the man down and not stopping him, they are also responsible for the repercussions of the actions of that day.

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over a year ago

"What we should be recognizing is governments, police forces and anywhere else that allows this to happen. I’d be amazed if that was the first time that cop did anything racist. The first time anything happened he should be up to a public board.

Not even the first time he'd killed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any time I see ‘All Lives Matter’ now I always just picture the spongebob chicken meme.

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By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Not even the first time he'd killed

exactly why the fuck is he out in public, why is no one pulling him up. We love moan but few people take reasonable steps and own them.

I can understand rioting when this crap happens. How many peaceful protests have happened in Trumps term alone and nothing changes.

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over a year ago

Not even the first time he'd killed

exactly why the fuck is he out in public, why is no one pulling him up. We love moan but few people take reasonable steps and own them.

I can understand rioting when this crap happens. How many peaceful protests have happened in Trumps term alone and nothing changes. "

He's been arrested and charged with manslaughter and 3rd degree murder. The riots are about all of the lives lost and violence when officers have kept their jobs and been cleared of crimes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are a lot of racists on fab.

Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing.

Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful

Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad?

. Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....

I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest".

All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums.

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over a year ago

There was a case a few weeks ago in America again!

A black man was walking down the street.

2 white men in a truck thought he was someone who burgled them a few years before so they got out of the truck and shot him!

They claimed self defence and weren't even arrested.

The fact is if you are black some people will always believe you are up to no good.

Anyone saying that racism isn't rife and prejudice doesn't happen is lying to themselves.

Iv had to stop reading and watching things about whats going on at the moment because I get so angry.

Also people's comments make me so sad and worried for our society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are a lot of racists on fab.

Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing.

Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful

Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad?

. Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....

I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest".

All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums.

It didn't look that way to me, my bad. Do you see what I'm saying though. Perception is often what you want to see or hear or what you feel comfortable with, bad is always bad and no bad should be excused.....

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By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Not even the first time he'd killed

exactly why the fuck is he out in public, why is no one pulling him up. We love moan but few people take reasonable steps and own them.

I can understand rioting when this crap happens. How many peaceful protests have happened in Trumps term alone and nothing changes.

He's been arrested and charged with manslaughter and 3rd degree murder. The riots are about all of the lives lost and violence when officers have kept their jobs and been cleared of crimes."

Yup, the riots were triggered by this since the police force response was very heavy handed.

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over a year ago

Not even the first time he'd killed

exactly why the fuck is he out in public, why is no one pulling him up. We love moan but few people take reasonable steps and own them.

I can understand rioting when this crap happens. How many peaceful protests have happened in Trumps term alone and nothing changes.

He's been arrested and charged with manslaughter and 3rd degree murder. The riots are about all of the lives lost and violence when officers have kept their jobs and been cleared of crimes.

Yup, the riots were triggered by this since the police force response was very heavy handed.

And their president is hardly helping with that.

He makes my blood boil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are a lot of racists on fab.

Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing.

Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful

Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad?

. Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....

I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest".

All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums.

Sure. But the issue here is institutional racism in the states. People looting tellies is irrelevant to the conversation. Its a tactic used by Trump and other alt right types to divert the conversation away from the real issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice.

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By *ibbyhunterCouple
over a year ago

keighley

Coronavirus is not over

America is the worst for deaths from covid 19

Black people are 4 times more likely to get this virus

can you see what i'm getting at.

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By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"There was a case a few weeks ago in America again!

A black man was walking down the street.

2 white men in a truck thought he was someone who burgled them a few years before so they got out of the truck and shot him!

They claimed self defence and weren't even arrested.

The fact is if you are black some people will always believe you are up to no good.

Anyone saying that racism isn't rife and prejudice doesn't happen is lying to themselves.

Iv had to stop reading and watching things about whats going on at the moment because I get so angry.

Also people's comments make me so sad and worried for our society.

Why we should try and direct our frustrations to the people in power. Fighting amongst each other will only exacerbate it. Unless you see something overtly racist, then yea, call it out.

Not easy when people feel marginalized though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The "you are not listening" mantra seems to be in full force on both sides of this thread. Those that say "black lives matter" are as important to listen to as those who say "all lives matter". Both need to be heard and understood, but I am seeing the most intolerance for the latter. Changes will happen when everybody respects and listens to each other without prejudice. "

I disagree, I think those saying all lives matter are correct but it is almost always used as a way of dismissing the issue.

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over a year ago

"There are a lot of racists on fab.

Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing.

Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful

Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad?

. Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....

I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest".

All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums.

That's opinion though, surely? Looting is bad and you dismissed it just as trump dismissed the original crime, so some ppl will be encouraged to loot by your actions just as some ppl will be encouraged the be racist by the Trump.... Always be spotless in your morality if you want a fair world

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment?

People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue.

Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views!

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over a year ago

Listening and agreeing are two very different things. People are listening on here or they wouldn't respond. There is a lot of intolerance here but that's because the post is about the issue that's happening. Telling people it's not as big a issue as they believe or claiming that all lives matter when everyone already knows that we should treat people equal just angers supporters of these riots. You are allowed to express your opinion but telling people who disagree with you that they're not listening is counter intuitive

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over a year ago

Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment?

People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue.

Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views!"

Aww that's plain sad when you lose respect for other humans.... ....how do you expect any respect in return?

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!

He died because someone was knealing on his wind pipe.

Stop confusing the facts with your opinion.

Unfortunately it was the Police officer involved that made the decision how to handle the situation.

Until the results of the offical enquiry into the man's death are published we can only guess.

In what way is it happening in the UK?

Just look at the recent Windrush scandal or families of people being sent to countries they have never been in because the government can't find their paperwork.

If you're asking if the death of black people by police officers is happening here it does happen but at no where near the levels of the US.

Yes I am asking if the deaths of black people by UK Police officers is on the rise. Where is it happening and why?

The other officers involved in the incident will obviously be held accountable for thier actions or lack of. Again they made decisions that resulted in a man's death.

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By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"Coronavirus is not over

America is the worst for deaths from covid 19

Black people are 4 times more likely to get this virus

can you see what i'm getting at."

Far as I know that’s due to vitamin D deficiencies though. Long as they get plenty sunlight or supplements they aren’t any worse off. Although don’t know how well that is being communicated out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are a lot of racists on fab.

Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing.

Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful

Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad?

. Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....

I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest".

All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums.

Well done on trying to divert the conversation away from the issue of institutional racism and the murder of black people by the police in America.

If you think looting is as bad as the police killing POC on a whim for being suspected of a minor crime. You're part of the problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, I think those saying all lives matter are correct but it is almost always used as a way of dismissing the issue. "

Is it? How do you know that? Generalising is not helpful. Remember, you are not always dealing with the same level of intellect as you but all should have a voice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment?

People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue.

Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views!

Aww that's plain sad when you lose respect for other humans.... ....how do you expect any respect in return?

I am comfortable being a non-racist (it's normal by the way, most people are non-racist).

Why do you assume I need or expect any respect from them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Until black lives matter, then all lives don't.... It's quite simple

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By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment?

People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue.

Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views!

Aww that's plain sad when you lose respect for other humans.... ....how do you expect any respect in return?

Nothing is changing if we can’t listen to each other.

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over a year ago

"There are a lot of racists on fab.

Yeah. There are some out and out ines. But I find a thread like this and the casual acceptance and denial of a massive problem way more depressing.

Your BNP/EDL scum you know where you stand with them and at least they own it. This thread and the way the racism is presented is awful

Does it matter who's baddest? Is it like a competition or isn't all bad bad?

. Never overlook any bad it it'll breed acceptance....

I'm not suggesting anyone is "baddest".

All forms of racism are abhorrent. I call it out when I see it in real life. And I call it out when I see it in the fab forums.

Well done on trying to divert the conversation away from the issue of institutional racism and the murder of black people by the police in America.

If you think looting is as bad as the police killing POC on a whim for being suspected of a minor crime. You're part of the problem."

I was just asking you to think buddy. If we only deal with the top news headline then everything else falls to shit while we do. Morals need to be spotless on all subjects at all times in order to build a fair society. Wrong is wrong, simple. Name calling and tribalism isn't going to help you to be happy or any folk who are suffering prejudice...

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over a year ago

Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment?

People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue.

Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views!"

"Normal" people's views??????? Who are you to decide who is "normal" or not? That is an inflammatory statement made by a white person who thinks they are better than others, whether it is intelligence, upbringing or skin colour. You are not, you are equal.

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over a year ago

Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment?

People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue.

Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views!"

People dont like to be made to feel uncomfortable about a situation they have never been in or circumstances that dont relate to them. Rather than listen and try and understand its all 'what about this' instead to try and stop them feeling bad about things that are pretty fucking awful.

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over a year ago

I disagree, I think those saying all lives matter are correct but it is almost always used as a way of dismissing the issue.

Is it? How do you know that? Generalising is not helpful. Remember, you are not always dealing with the same level of intellect as you but all should have a voice."

It might not be intentional but it is always dismissing the issue, that’s why that movement was created. It’s condescending when people try and generalise an issue rather than letting the people who are angry be angry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

He was murdered BECAUSE he was black. Don't you see?! That is the fucking issue. He would not have died if he was white! That is why we must speak up for black people. Because we are treated differently. Racism exists. It is everywhere. Fuck sake people. Wake UP!pretty sure if a white person was treated the same way they would of died too... there's stories out there that arent even being mentioned, like the elderly white man being punched in the head continuously to death by a black carer... nothing has been mentioned about that on mainstream media just in a newspaper.

Racism works both ways unfortunately.

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!

HE DIED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK! THAT SCUM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOOD ON A WHITE MAN'S NECK. PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THIS ATTITUDE! STOP WHITEWASHING SHIT!

He died because someone was knealing on his wind pipe.

Stop confusing the facts with your opinion.

Unfortunately it was the Police officer involved that made the decision how to handle the situation.

Until the results of the offical enquiry into the man's death are published we can only guess.

In what way is it happening in the UK?

Just look at the recent Windrush scandal or families of people being sent to countries they have never been in because the government can't find their paperwork.

If you're asking if the death of black people by police officers is happening here it does happen but at no where near the levels of the US.

Yes I am asking if the deaths of black people by UK Police officers is on the rise. Where is it happening and why?

The other officers involved in the incident will obviously be held accountable for thier actions or lack of. Again they made decisions that resulted in a man's death.

There hasn't been a rise here or in the US, the riots aren't just about the killing of black people by police officers but the while way they are treated by their governments and police.

You say the officers will be held accountable but there have been too many instances of officers getting away with these things regularly. They don't lose there job or get punished beyond taking administrative leave while their friends investigate and claim nothing was wrong.

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over a year ago

I think from reading through a lot of folk are getting upset and defensive at being accused of aiding and abetting racism by not being openly anti racist. I see a lot of social media accusing white people of being silent on the issue, but I don’t see that in the protests and public outpouring of emotion for this murder and the plight of black Americans. I saw a sea of white faces at the London protests. That’s encouraging.

Like most intense subjects these days it’s easy to descend into tribalism and shout at each other. Barking that people are showing ‘white fragility’ when they rile at being called racist for not doing enough doesn’t help. Imagine being black and a white person calling you racist because you didn’t show enough empathy to a subject like the situation in Zimbabwe? It’s insulting and doesn’t achieve unity. Likewise just saying ‘all lives matter’ in response to black lives matter doesn’t help. It diminishes the issue.

I don’t think anyone is in fundamentally in disagreement here.

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By *tephanjMan
over a year ago

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"Stop with all this black lives matter bullshit . Things like this make the divide even more evident ! EVERY life matters not just black lives, not white lives , not asian lives but ALL of us.

Doesn’t matter if you’re black or white , your life still matters just as much as the person next to you

Here here

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

This 100%. If you don't know what white privilige is it's because you're white and priviged! "

Tell that to the white homeless guy that had all his possessions set fire to by protesters.

Tell that to the white guy who died in almost the exact same circumstances as George...

Let's see the outrage at the death of a black female police officer in America.

Or do black lives only matter if they aren't wearing a badge?

This goes deeper than just racism.

There needs to be massive changes in the police and the community.

In America approximately 13% of the population is black.

Black victims account for 52% of murders, with 88% of the suspects/murderers being black.

Approximately 52% of police officers murdered on duty are murdered by black people.

Drugs, poverty are a huge problem for the black community in the USA and here but to a lesser degree, whether this down to lack of opportunities and education due to racism within the system I don't know.

What I do know is that if an American police officer of any sex or colour is called to deal with a black person, their risk assessment is going to be heightened, the black person seeing a police officer is going to have a heightened sense of fear or anger.

Straight away something simple has become a tense situation before a single word has been exchanged.

People are blaming this squarely on the police.

In this particular case the officer is guilty of murder/manslaughter, I don't understand American law but to blame every officer, every white person is wrong.

Black, white, Hispanic, Asian people are using this to cause decision, they loot, vandalise, beat people etc they are doing nothing for this cause of for racial harmony.

Yet they will stand up and proudly say they did it for George, his family say he would not have wanted this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do we need to listen to the "all lives matter" people at this moment?

People who insist on trying to dilute the conversation this way have an agenda of diverting attention away form the issue.

Not every opinion need to be respected. For example I don't respect Trump, or other racists. Why should we give their views as much weight as normal people's views!

Read carefully and guess from the context.....

Nope?

"Normal people", in this context are non-racists. There isn't a word for "non-racist", (as far as I know), because it's normal. Hence the phrase "normal people".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All lives matter?

This is a narrow minded outlook, have all lives always been privileged? Have all lives faced discrimination, oppression, profiling?

The Matter at hand isn’t about all lives but it’s to bring awareness injustices faced by the black community, being judged because of the colour of your skin is something that we (White people) will never understand and thats why we need to stand up and support, raise awareness and educate others on the Black Lives Matter movement.

Saying ‘All lives matter’ make you just as bad as those who actively take part in racial discrimination.

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