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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham

2 of the men accused have been given verdicts of not guilty in the case of the atherstone fire that caused the death of 4 of their colleagues (and one of their sons), the third man was equited during the trial.

I am very happy that this has been concluded and that they were found not guilty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"2 of the men accused have been given verdicts of not guilty in the case of the atherstone fire that caused the death of 4 of their colleagues (and one of their sons), the third man was equited during the trial.

I am very happy that this has been concluded and that they were found not guilty.

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Indeed.....but its taken 5 years fir this to be so, what a nightmare for the guys concerned, glad its been concluded and found not guilty

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

and the scum who set the fire have not been caught yet..

does make you wonder if the police/cps 'priorities' were in any sort of balance on this..

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"2 of the men accused have been given verdicts of not guilty in the case of the atherstone fire that caused the death of 4 of their colleagues (and one of their sons), the third man was equited during the trial.

I am very happy that this has been concluded and that they were found not guilty.

"

It's a good result for common sense, just a bit strange that no senior officers were there to answer the same questions on lack of equipment etc

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


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It's a good result for common sense, just a bit strange that no senior officers were there to answer the same questions on lack of equipment etc"

i think the hse have yet to address any other failings on procedures etc

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By *aGaGagging for itCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"2 of the men accused have been given verdicts of not guilty in the case of the atherstone fire that caused the death of 4 of their colleagues (and one of their sons), the third man was equited during the trial.

I am very happy that this has been concluded and that they were found not guilty.

It's a good result for common sense, just a bit strange that no senior officers were there to answer the same questions on lack of equipment etc"

Totally disagree!!

The bulding was well ablaze, there were no persons reported inside, the building was was known to be sandwich panel construction, which has well docummented inherent risks and the fire fighters were sent inside! The principle is that you don't risk life to save property (but will risk life to save saveable life) - Why were they sent in!!! (From a fire fighter)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"2 of the men accused have been given verdicts of not guilty in the case of the atherstone fire that caused the death of 4 of their colleagues (and one of their sons), the third man was equited during the trial.

I am very happy that this has been concluded and that they were found not guilty.

It's a good result for common sense, just a bit strange that no senior officers were there to answer the same questions on lack of equipment etc

Totally disagree!!

The bulding was well ablaze, there were no persons reported inside, the building was was known to be sandwich panel construction, which has well docummented inherent risks and the fire fighters were sent inside! The principle is that you don't risk life to save property (but will risk life to save saveable life) - Why were they sent in!!! (From a fire fighter)"

Just as well you weren't on the bench...

But... I'm sure there will be a few policy and procedure changes going on now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"2 of the men accused have been given verdicts of not guilty in the case of the atherstone fire that caused the death of 4 of their colleagues (and one of their sons), the third man was equited during the trial.

I am very happy that this has been concluded and that they were found not guilty.

"

You have to question why the CPS brought s prosecution if the evidence wasn't sound.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's easy to say the IOC was at fault for sending in crews into a building with no life risk? Is is this true or not ? What happened on the day is difficult to understand we do know the building was well alight persons reported or not who knows. The fact is the firefighters died and the watch manger and his colleuges were put through unesacery stress and suffering the police haven't helped them one bit or the CPS. Yes they has been failing but not by the responding crews but, by building regulations by the factory owners and by the fire Authority not the lads at the pointy end.

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By *aGaGagging for itCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"It's easy to say the IOC was at fault for sending in crews into a building with no life risk? Is is this true or not ? What happened on the day is difficult to understand we do know the building was well alight persons reported or not who knows. The fact is the firefighters died and the watch manger and his colleuges were put through unesacery stress and suffering the police haven't helped them one bit or the CPS. Yes they has been failing but not by the responding crews but, by building regulations by the factory owners and by the fire Authority not the lads at the pointy end.

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There were no persons reported and no life risk. Why the assumption that there was a failing of Building Regulations and the factory owners? - Buildings can still catch fire even when they exceed Building Regulations standards and who says the factory owners were responsible? People need to be accountable for the decisions that they make and especially when there is loss of life, which is why there is an offence of corporate manslaughter on the statute books. It is only right that in such situations the matter is tried in Court and if the decisions made on the day are found to be appropriate when all factors are taken into account, the Defendants will be found not guilty / aquitted. If however, the decisions were not appropriate and resulted in loss of life, then the Defendants should be held accountable for their decisions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The failings on the factory owner come down to the RRO 2005 for not having a sufficient Fire Risk assessment if the building caught fire clearley the risk assessmnent was inadequate, secondly building control knows as does every firefighter / officer about sandwich panels large open area no sprinklers fitted to the building this is only APCOP not a regulation granted but the building collapsed due to heat stress after the fire so was not constructed correctly I go on and on, just please that the lads got off after along ordeal

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

the RRO is a shambles, it has put FS back to the 60's...

it will lead to more deaths for both Ff's and the 'public'..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I totally agree about the RRO been a shambles but It is a piece of legislation that can be used against people New look the clothing company were fined £400k following a fire at its Oxford street store. People have been sentanced as a result from not following it.

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