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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The parents of those poor kiddies that died in the house fire in Derby have been arrested for their murder?

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By *uss PussWoman
over a year ago

east cheshire

Thats what they were saying on the news....im shocked TBH

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah you did, it's on the bbc website

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Oh my goodness what on earth goes on in peoples minds to do something like that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's shocking

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

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It always amamzes me that people can cry crocodile tears, if it's the case that they did start the fire.

I believe they were looking for a bigger property, maybe they thought if the building was damamged they would have to be moved.

Not excusing or criticising. Am sure the truth will come out sooner or late

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Although it is just arrested they may have it wrong again so time will tell but if right what an evil act to carry out

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By *uss PussWoman
over a year ago

east cheshire


"It always amamzes me that people can cry crocodile tears, if it's the case that they did start the fire.

I believe they were looking for a bigger property, maybe they thought if the building was damamged they would have to be moved.

Not excusing or criticising. Am sure the truth will come out sooner or late"

That sounds about right.

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

I've not read or seen the news footage, so couldn't comment really, only thing I will say if it had been my girls in the house nothing on earth would prevent me from getting them out, I certainly wouldn't have been in any condition either physically or mentally to give a press conference ..

Tragic,

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By *ovedupstillCouple
over a year ago

mullinwire


"I've not read or seen the news footage, so couldn't comment really, only thing I will say if it had been my girls in the house nothing on earth would prevent me from getting them out, I certainly wouldn't have been in any condition either physically or mentally to give a press conference ..

Tragic, "

i agree with you.

i would have rather died trying, than lived and stood by crying, and im almost certain most others would too (and i have no kids)

if what has been reported is true then it really is a terrbile indictment on the society we live in today, where childrens lives are bartered for wealth, fame, money and property.

and people have asked me why i always refused to have children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The man did an interview. I didnt "feel" his anguish. Something wasnt right.

Who the hell does such things. It bewilders me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

have they been accused of starting the fire?

I have to be honest tho that never crossed my mind i did think how can all your kids die and not you, because they was to young to be left alone and lets be honest whos going to run out of a fire without taking your kids first, something didnt feel right about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lets just all remember one thing tho

they havnt been found guilty, as yet its only an accusation

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By *ovedupstillCouple
over a year ago

mullinwire


"lets just all remember one thing tho

they havnt been found guilty, as yet its only an accusation"

no offence, NN, but the fuzz wouldnt add to a families anguish without good cause, ESPECIALLY in a situation like this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No one has been charged yet - its worth remembering that

I have read that they wanted a bigger property so could have set fire to it to get this .. I also read that he has been in prison for stabbing a girl to death and stabbing her mother

No one knows the truth but god help him and her if they are guilty of this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes the cops do press conferences because they are already suspicious. They would have been looking at body language and expressions.

I was shocked at today's news but not surprised - who want's to go in front of the cameras when you have 5 dead kids and one dying in hospital !

Maybe they turn out to be totally innocent but I doubt the police would make these arrests without some damn good reason and evidence to back it up

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By *enithWoman
over a year ago

closer than you think

just watching news, police confirm petrol was used to start the fire deliberately

parents have been arrested and questioned on suspicion of causing fire

as previously mentioned ..... the truth will come out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sometimes the cops do press conferences because they are already suspicious. They would have been looking at body language and expressions.

I was shocked at today's news but not surprised - who want's to go in front of the cameras when you have 5 dead kids and one dying in hospital !

Maybe they turn out to be totally innocent but I doubt the police would make these arrests without some damn good reason and evidence to back it up "

I've just watched the press conference lead by the father. Not once did he ask/beg/plead for help in catching the killers of his kids ....he did ask for people to back off and leave his family alone and only ask him questions

Someone tell me I'm reading wrongly into it ....I can't bare the thought of parents being able to murder their own ....let alone follow it up with such crocodile tears

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

innocent until proven guilty

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Ever since Susan Smith every time I see these press conferences I think "they did it". The only exception was little Reece in Liverpool.

There have been too many incidents when the nearest and dearest have been responsible for the death. I wasn't surprised or shocked...however...innocent until proven guilty.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

If they are found guilty then the alleged wish will come true.

Jails generally are large properties.

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran


"innocent until proven guilty"

don't forget the "presumed"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lets just all remember one thing tho

they havnt been found guilty, as yet its only an accusation

no offence, NN, but the fuzz wouldnt add to a families anguish without good cause, ESPECIALLY in a situation like this."

the papers would tho, anything to get a story

Not saying they havnt dont it im just saying its innocent till PROVEN guilty in this country

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By *ilandlarryCouple
over a year ago

more north lincs than mids!

The parents weren't even in the property, they were asleep in the caravan at the front of the house.

I don't have too much to say about it, until they have been formally charged anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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as previously mentioned ..... the truth will come out

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always does

S

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By *oonytoonMan
over a year ago

derby

Imagine the thoughts of all the fundraisers collecting money for there funerals and the people good enough to donate which is now in excess of ten grand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Imagine the thoughts of all the fundraisers collecting money for there funerals and the people good enough to donate which is now in excess of ten grand "

The poor children still need buried irregardless.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Can you imagine if they haven't done it how awful to be innocent and accused

Part of me hopes they haven't got it wrong for that reason and part of me hopes they have got it wrong as its too horrific a thought that any parent could do such a heinous act

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran

people are not innocent until proved guilty they are presumed innocent - there is a world of difference - there is probably loads of people walking our streets who have committed a crime but not found guilty in a court of law but they still committed the crime Rant over it's just that this simple phrase is always misquouted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both have been charged, appearing before magistrates tomorrow morning

I am choking at the thought that we actually share this planet with such scum (should they have actually killed their own life and blood)

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Im choked too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hope the cops make it snappy 2 get the crocodile parents into jail were low life scum belong ,,n hope the parents get there just deserts n not 2 cushy ,,

yes they have been fully charged with murder ,,,

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

The cynical part of me wasn't entirely convinced by their performance at the press conference...I just thought NOONE would murder 6 kids....I wish I had been wrong

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

they havent been tried yet, maybe follow the story to its conclusion rther than hanging them right here and now

personally i cant believe that in this day and age people are still shocked when things like this happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they havent been tried yet, maybe follow the story to its conclusion rther than hanging them right here and now

personally i cant believe that in this day and age people are still shocked when things like this happen."

to be fair in any day and age someone killing 6 kids is still shocking

even tho they have not been found guilty the fact they left the house without the kids just seems to make it feel dodgy

lets be honest how many people with kids would sooner die in the fire than run out and leave them, making a few attempts before giving up just dont wash with me, i just look at my kids and think.....you wouldnt leave them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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personally i cant believe that in this day and age people are still shocked when things like this happen."

I think the day most people cease to be shocked by stuff like this, will be the day I bow out.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"they havent been tried yet, maybe follow the story to its conclusion rther than hanging them right here and now

personally i cant believe that in this day and age people are still shocked when things like this happen."
Iultimately I still want to believe that people are good evie....I really do...haven't hung them yet

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


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personally i cant believe that in this day and age people are still shocked when things like this happen.

I think the day most people cease to be shocked by stuff like this, will be the day I bow out. "

actually, i think i should re-phrase cos that makes me sound like a heartless cow - and i'm not

it is shocking to hear of such events and i am disusted if these charges are correct

what i am not shocked about is that elements of this society are desperate/sick/mentally unstable to set fire to a house etc

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By *aceytopWoman
over a year ago

from a town near you

those poor babies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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actually, i think i should re-phrase cos that makes me sound like a heartless cow - and i'm not

"

phew!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The police have only charged them as they were not granted a further extension to question them. It's still very possible they didn't do it.

However, they must have something to be going on. I do wish the press kept out of it though. It's disgusting watching them hounding a community in mourning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and the rest of their family who have lost 6 family members and have to go through this while trying to grieve

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"The police have only charged them as they were not granted a further extension to question them. It's still very possible they didn't do it.

However, they must have something to be going on. I do wish the press kept out of it though. It's disgusting watching them hounding a community in mourning. "

Let us not forget what the press did to the first man accused of Jo Yeates' murder. The police also charged him and the press convicted him before the police got Vincent Tabak.

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By *he tactile technicianMan
over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands

Obviously emotions are going to run wild in such dreadful circumstances where any deaths within the family unit are caused, but let us not forget about the wrongful convictions of Sally Clark and Angela Cannings and keep an open mind for the time being. The press thrive on such tragedies; and more so where it is going to stir the emotions of the general public, fuelling that condemnation for their own commercial benefit

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Only just seen the press conference they did, which so it seems they asked for......if it is anything to go by I would say guilty....it looked very false and staged to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reckon they expected to be able to run in and save the kids, becoming heroes in the process. But, being twattingly stupid, they didn't realise how fiercely petrol burns, or that their route upstairs was right by the front door, where they poured the petrol.

Fucking idiots using kids to boost their benefit lifestyle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Reckon they expected to be able to run in and save the kids, becoming heroes in the process. But, being twattingly stupid, they didn't realise how fiercely petrol burns, or that their route upstairs was right by the front door, where they poured the petrol.

Fucking idiots using kids to boost their benefit lifestyle"

You are probably right. But to carry on the charade and deny you are responsible for the death of your own children is unforgivable

That's IF they are guilty btw.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The police have only charged them as they were not granted a further extension to question them. It's still very possible they didn't do it.

However, they must have something to be going on. I do wish the press kept out of it though. It's disgusting watching them hounding a community in mourning.

Let us not forget what the press did to the first man accused of Jo Yeates' murder. The police also charged him and the press convicted him before the police got Vincent Tabak."

And the first guy that was convicted of the Jill dando murder. He was wrongly convicted again after the press stirred up a frenzy.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


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And the first guy that was convicted of the Jill dando murder. He was wrongly convicted again after the press stirred up a frenzy. "

Then hopefully the cops won't get it wrong this time.

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By *oonytoonMan
over a year ago

derby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

they appeared in court this morning ,,crown court 2morro in nottingham glass house [crown court ],,

they looked guilty on news report ,,,

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By *ick0305Man
over a year ago

plymouth

some ppl dont deserve kids , gas chamber be a gd idea for some ppl

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Might be a good idea to allow them a fair trial first before we start talking about executing them......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

u get abigger sentence if u rob a bank than ppl get for murder,,,

we shud never have got rid of the best deterant we ever had ,,hang em vry hi ...

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