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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is?" Yup that's me. I do them, but I've always got better things to do! Dirty house? No chance, but magazine on the floor and the odd mug on the kitchen worktop? That can wait until after the bike ride etc etc | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is?" I’d rather work extra and pay someone else to do it so it’s affecting my mental health that she can’t do it at the moment yeah!!  | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is?" 1 - no. I clean my house. 2 - yes. 3 - very little. 4 - very little. 5 - mental health cant be used as an excuse to being a dirty person. Thats a kop out | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? Yup that's me. I do them, but I've always got better things to do! Dirty house? No chance, but magazine on the floor and the odd mug on the kitchen worktop? That can wait until after the bike ride etc etc " Sounds you’ve found a balance regardless of having better things to do  | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? I’d rather work extra and pay someone else to do it so it’s affecting my mental health that she can’t do it at the moment yeah!! "You do know she can come back to work now? I won’t allow my cleaner back because I know where else she cleans; they’ve not quite figured out what social distancing is 
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is?" yes I'm in the 50%. I could have time if I chose too but I don't. I can't live with any level of dirt but I can live with a level of what I call "ho_eliness". If I'm feeling a bit fed up I don't do as much as if I'm not. | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? I’d rather work extra and pay someone else to do it so it’s affecting my mental health that she can’t do it at the moment yeah!!
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I won’t allow my cleaner back because I know where else she cleans; they’ve not quite figured out what social distancing is
Does your cleaner manage to do EVERYTHING? "I have the kids home though and so does she so not possible really. Yeah she does everything except my office as that’s where I usually am when she’s here. | |||
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"We don't have much time for housework. We do what we have to routinely to keep our home clean and tidy but jobs such as cleaning skirting boards etc, we struggle to find time. We prioritise in what needs done, and we would rather our children eat healthy homemade meals than have gleaming skirting boards." I would say skirting boards aren’t something you’d do every week anyway and healthy food is definitely far more important  | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? 1 - no. I clean my house. 2 - yes. 3 - very little. 4 - very little. 5 - mental health cant be used as an excuse to being a dirty person. Thats a kop out " Have you read much research on poor mental health and it’s impact on daily life? It really isn’t an excuse and if you get chance have a google | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? 1 - no. I clean my house. 2 - yes. 3 - very little. 4 - very little. 5 - mental health cant be used as an excuse to being a dirty person. Thats a kop out " Answer 5 Cleary you do not understand mental health at all, some people struggle to stay alive, let alone get out of bed and clean. | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? 1 - no. I clean my house. 2 - yes. 3 - very little. 4 - very little. 5 - mental health cant be used as an excuse to being a dirty person. Thats a kop out Have you read much research on poor mental health and it’s impact on daily life? It really isn’t an excuse and if you get chance have a google "No it’s not. If you’ve ever suffered from severe depression you’d know what an unbelievable effort and challenge it is to even bring yourself to put a load of washing on. It’s not a kop out. | |||
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"I'm always cleaning.. cant bare a dusty dirty home..and like it all to smell nice " Smell is a massive thing for me especially now we have a dog. No one likes doggy smell | |||
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"I'm always cleaning.. cant bare a dusty dirty home..and like it all to smell nice Smell is a massive thing for me especially now we have a dog. No one likes doggy smell " Haha I’m like that. When ever anyone comes I say be honest with me can you smell dog?  . I light a Yankee every morning and put it out at bedtime! I get through so many now lol | |||
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"If I used the time I spend on fab cleaning my place it would be gleaming " I imagine that resonates with quite a few on here | |||
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"I think 50% is shocking... I couldn't go to bed if there's mess... yes both of us work full time, have children and cook from scratch. With todays technology and millions of cleaning products, its not difficult to keep a tidy house. " .. Agree. No excuse for laziness | |||
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"I like a clean house but that doesn't mean I'm always on it. I think messy is different to it being dirty. If it gets too messy then it gets me down a bit." Things out of place set my teeth on edge, if only the kids felt the same | |||
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"I currently have little else to do other than clean the house. My kitchen is as clean as an operating theatre I reckon. Pre-apocalypse I had a cleaner, so not sure." My house is cleaner without her. I think because she did the basics the stuff that didn’t need doing weekly had a tendency to be put off. Now everyone is home a lot of the time I have to be on top of everything otherwise it’d be horrific in no time | |||
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"I want a cleaner "Good luck with that
I’ve had a fair few, it’s fraught with problems:-
I don’t do....
I only use my own cleaning products
I only clean what I can see
I charge ............ (no I don’t think they should be paid minimum wage but nor do I expect to pay the hourly rate of a barrister)
Then you get cleaners that move things, break things or clean things you don’t want cleaning. I’ll stop before I put you off | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? yes I'm in the 50%. I could have time if I chose too but I don't. I can't live with any level of dirt but I can live with a level of what I call "ho_eliness". If I'm feeling a bit fed up I don't do as much as if I'm not. " That’s sounds like a healthy balance to me | |||
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"I like a clean house but that doesn't mean I'm always on it. I think messy is different to it being dirty. If it gets too messy then it gets me down a bit. Things out of place set my teeth on edge, if only the kids felt the same "My youngest son recently came home after jim.and his partner split. My 3 yr old grandaughter also stayed 3/4 nights a week. I only have a tiny house and oh my, the chaos was believable. They have now worked things out and I have a resemblance of normality. | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? I’d rather work extra and pay someone else to do it so it’s affecting my mental health that she can’t do it at the moment yeah!!
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I won’t allow my cleaner back because I know where else she cleans; they’ve not quite figured out what social distancing is
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I have the kids home though and so does she so not possible really. Yeah she does everything except my office as that’s where I usually am when she’s here. "Mine just does the basics plus anything I request if she has time | |||
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"I currently have little else to do other than clean the house. My kitchen is as clean as an operating theatre I reckon. Pre-apocalypse I had a cleaner, so not sure. My house is cleaner without her. I think because she did the basics the stuff that didn’t need doing weekly had a tendency to be put off. Now everyone is home a lot of the time I have to be on top of everything otherwise it’d be horrific in no time "That makes sense! Mine only needs to do basics because I live on my own and am hardly ever here. I miss her actually, she’s funny. | |||
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"I'm ocd I can't stand dust dirt grime bits on my carpets I need lines in my rug lol.. I hate mess so damn yes I have a clean house..work and have kids and still gets done x" I don’t have ocd but I would like to be more relaxed with chores, I get a bit carried away | |||
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"Cannot stand a dirty house but have so many other things to fill our time that's why we employ a cleaner. " Lots of folk with cleaners on this thread, just shows how times have changed | |||
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"My OCD means everything is gleaming all the time. " You can clean mine save me a job | |||
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"I'm always cleaning.. cant bare a dusty dirty home..and like it all to smell nice Smell is a massive thing for me especially now we have a dog. No one likes doggy smell Haha I’m like that. When ever anyone comes I say be honest with me can you smell dog? . I light a Yankee every morning and put it out at bedtime! I get through so many now lol "I’m a fan of M&S diffusers | |||
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"I enjoy cleaning - I wouldn't say the house is spotless and sometimes if my mood isn't the best I let things build up a bit. Sooner or later I go on a cleaning spree and feel so much better for it." The house being clean and tidy lifts my mood. Gets me down if it’s not | |||
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"I think 50% is shocking... I couldn't go to bed if there's mess... yes both of us work full time, have children and cook from scratch. With todays technology and millions of cleaning products, its not difficult to keep a tidy house. " Some ppl just don’t know how | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is?" I don't have time to do them. Or at least that is my excuse. However, I hate seeing mess. So I pay someone to do the tidy up and protect my mental health! | |||
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"Im incredibly tidy and clean, I think its 12 years in the military that's made me like that" Yeah it’s probably why I’ve had a few relationships with military men | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. " Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests!  | |||
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"There’s a difference between dirty and messy. I’d rather not clean but I cannot cope with dirt- I have dogs and children so I spend a lot of time cleaning! I don’t have the time but I make time. However, it’s a lived in house and you may tread on Lego or a toy upon entering during the day. I love evenings when it stays tidy for a while "The dreaded Lego hurts like hell when you stand on it | |||
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"My house is clean at a basic glance generally but I live with a lot of animals, human and otherwise so I can live with a level of unclean. It's good for our immune system so Im told! I do enough cleaning at work and can release my cleanly obsessions there. " Lots of animals sounds ominous | |||
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"I don’t like dirt but yes my house gets messy. My boys keep me busy both mentally and physically so I don’t always have the time or the inclination to clean as much as I should. My mental health does affect how much I do, the lockdown is really testing me, with no respite I’m struggling to keep myself going and not let my sons see the anxiety that I’m going through x " This must be a difficult time for you Angie. Cleaning shouldn’t be top of your list of priorities, I expect just getting through the day is an achievement. Keep your chin up and on Thursday next week give yourself a clap, you deserve it xxx | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? 1 - no. I clean my house. 2 - yes. 3 - very little. 4 - very little. 5 - mental health cant be used as an excuse to being a dirty person. Thats a kop out " mental health is not a cop out at all. And it is actually something that can be one of the signs of someone needing help. I tend to do it as and when... Its not dirty but if I decide I would rather do something else then I leave it. Like tonight. I had a laugh and giggle with my kids instead. | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! "Will they do that? | |||
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"I like a clean house but that doesn't mean I'm always on it. I think messy is different to it being dirty. If it gets too messy then it gets me down a bit. Things out of place set my teeth on edge, if only the kids felt the same
My youngest son recently came home after jim.and his partner split. My 3 yr old grandaughter also stayed 3/4 nights a week. I only have a tiny house and oh my, the chaos was believable.
They have now worked things out and I have a resemblance of normality."Omg that would have been my worst nightmare, thankfully they sorted things out | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. " Babs do not get a cleaner, I’m getting stressed just thinking about it. Although she/he could do the ironing | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? I don't have time to do them. Or at least that is my excuse. However, I hate seeing mess. So I pay someone to do the tidy up and protect my mental health!" You’ve definitely got this worked out | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Babs do not get a cleaner, I’m getting stressed just thinking about it. Although she/he could do the ironing "My bum irons and is happy to do so | |||
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"My house is a mess at the moment. My daughters room is like a bomb-site and my room there’s clothes everywhere. Despite being home more I’m out walking or running or doing something. Washing is getting down but just folded and put on my bed to the floor and from the floor to the bed again and then back on the floor. I’m being lazy. Tomorrow is gonna be a cleaning day. Not gonna step foot out the door cos it’s pissing me off now. " I’m having palpitations reading that | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Babs do not get a cleaner, I’m getting stressed just thinking about it. Although she/he could do the ironing
My bum irons and is happy to do so "Lol | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that? "They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away! | |||
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"I don’t like dirt but yes my house gets messy. My boys keep me busy both mentally and physically so I don’t always have the time or the inclination to clean as much as I should. My mental health does affect how much I do, the lockdown is really testing me, with no respite I’m struggling to keep myself going and not let my sons see the anxiety that I’m going through x This must be a difficult time for you Angie. Cleaning shouldn’t be top of your list of priorities, I expect just getting through the day is an achievement. Keep your chin up and on Thursday next week give yourself a clap, you deserve it xxx" Honestly it is an achievement some days. How I’ve managed to decorate half the house these past few weeks I don’t know. X | |||
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"From mr j Well I always clean, cook, do the washing feed the kids etc etc and work a full time job and still survive yeah the house isn’t spotless but with 3 cats 3 kids (all girls) and a load of other pets it’s hard to be that picky just as tidy as it needs to be "I have a solution......... get rid of the kids | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Babs do not get a cleaner, I’m getting stressed just thinking about it. Although she/he could do the ironing
My bum irons and is happy to do so "Oh god I’ve just remembered when my previous cleaner found my rabbit in the sink | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Babs do not get a cleaner, I’m getting stressed just thinking about it. Although she/he could do the ironing
My bum irons and is happy to do so
Lol"True story, she isn’t joking | |||
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"I don’t like dirt but yes my house gets messy. My boys keep me busy both mentally and physically so I don’t always have the time or the inclination to clean as much as I should. My mental health does affect how much I do, the lockdown is really testing me, with no respite I’m struggling to keep myself going and not let my sons see the anxiety that I’m going through x This must be a difficult time for you Angie. Cleaning shouldn’t be top of your list of priorities, I expect just getting through the day is an achievement. Keep your chin up and on Thursday next week give yourself a clap, you deserve it xxx Honestly it is an achievement some days. How I’ve managed to decorate half the house these past few weeks I don’t know. X " Good lord woman have a rest xxx | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? 1 - no. I clean my house. 2 - yes. 3 - very little. 4 - very little. 5 - mental health cant be used as an excuse to being a dirty person. Thats a kop out Answer 5 Cleary you do not understand mental health at all, some people struggle to stay alive, let alone get out of bed and clean." | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!"Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong "Oh you know me so well | |||
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"I love cleaning....I'm never happier than when I have a bucket of D10" Leaving nothing to chance there | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong "It won't as long as she doesn't shag the cleaner. Mine is a late 60's lady!  | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
Oh you know me so well "Yes and I wouldn’t suggest throwing a cat down the chimney because you have a bird stuck in it | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
It won't as long as she doesn't shag the cleaner. Mine is a late 60's lady! "You had in and out with the cleaner?  | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
It won't as long as she doesn't shag the cleaner. Mine is a late 60's lady! "Oooo I could get some hot tottie to clean. That could be fun. Not naked though | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
Oh you know me so well
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They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
It won't as long as she doesn't shag the cleaner. Mine is a late 60's lady!
You had in and out with the cleaner? "Way out of my age range! | |||
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They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
It won't as long as she doesn't shag the cleaner. Mine is a late 60's lady!
Oooo I could get some hot tottie to clean. That could be fun. Not naked though "Oh hang on I think I’ve found you a match, Mr Monkey has thighs and cleans | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
It won't as long as she doesn't shag the cleaner. Mine is a late 60's lady!
You had in and out with the cleaner?
Way out of my age range! "Preferences jeez | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
Oh you know me so well
Yes and I wouldn’t suggest throwing a cat down the chimney because you have a bird stuck in it
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They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
It won't as long as she doesn't shag the cleaner. Mine is a late 60's lady!
Oooo I could get some hot tottie to clean. That could be fun. Not naked though
Oh hang on I think I’ve found you a match, Mr Monkey has thighs and cleans "Perfect. I’ll have him Monday Wednesday Friday | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? 1 - no. I clean my house. 2 - yes. 3 - very little. 4 - very little. 5 - mental health cant be used as an excuse to being a dirty person. Thats a kop out Answer 5 Cleary you do not understand mental health at all, some people struggle to stay alive, let alone get out of bed and clean. ".... Do you get money from DWP for saying you have mental health issues? | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
It won't as long as she doesn't shag the cleaner. Mine is a late 60's lady!
Oooo I could get some hot tottie to clean. That could be fun. Not naked though
Oh hang on I think I’ve found you a match, Mr Monkey has thighs and cleans
Perfect. I’ll have him Monday Wednesday Friday "I’ll see if he can fit you in | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
It won't as long as she doesn't shag the cleaner. Mine is a late 60's lady!
Oooo I could get some hot tottie to clean. That could be fun. Not naked though
Oh hang on I think I’ve found you a match, Mr Monkey has thighs and cleans
Perfect. I’ll have him Monday Wednesday Friday
I’ll see if he can fit you in "I’ll still need someone for Tuesday and Thursday. I’ll keep the weekends | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
It won't as long as she doesn't shag the cleaner. Mine is a late 60's lady!
Oooo I could get some hot tottie to clean. That could be fun. Not naked though
Oh hang on I think I’ve found you a match, Mr Monkey has thighs and cleans
Perfect. I’ll have him Monday Wednesday Friday
I’ll see if he can fit you in
I’ll still need someone for Tuesday and Thursday. I’ll keep the weekends "I could do the those days. But I cannot clean. Will that be a problem? | |||
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"I need a clean house and I tend to get chores done before I move onto anything else. Although I sometimes like the thought of a cleaner I just couldn’t cope with someone coming into my house and I would worry about how they cleaned things. Go through a reputable cleaning company who does monthly audit including swab tests! Will they do that?
They should. The same people who clean my business cleans my home too. I am sure you will find someone. It just gives you a piece of mind, and takes the worry away!
Will you stop encouraging her, I’ll have to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong
It won't as long as she doesn't shag the cleaner. Mine is a late 60's lady!
Oooo I could get some hot tottie to clean. That could be fun. Not naked though
Oh hang on I think I’ve found you a match, Mr Monkey has thighs and cleans
Perfect. I’ll have him Monday Wednesday Friday
I’ll see if he can fit you in
I’ll still need someone for Tuesday and Thursday. I’ll keep the weekends
I could do the those days. But I cannot clean. Will that be a problem?"You can just sit and look pretty ok? I’m not cleaning around you though | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? 1 - no. I clean my house. 2 - yes. 3 - very little. 4 - very little. 5 - mental health cant be used as an excuse to being a dirty person. Thats a kop out " You've obviously never suffered with a sever mental health condition. Being as low as you can go, suicidal, barely functioning, it's not a nice place and certainly isn't a cop out. I speak from experience | |||
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"......say they don’t have time for household chores. Are you in the 50%? Are you in the plenty of time for chores 50%? What level of dirt can you live with? What level of untidiness can you live with? Does your mental health make a difference to chores being done and how clean and tidy your house is? 1 - no. I clean my house. 2 - yes. 3 - very little. 4 - very little. 5 - mental health cant be used as an excuse to being a dirty person. Thats a kop out You've obviously never suffered with a sever mental health condition. Being as low as you can go, suicidal, barely functioning, it's not a nice place and certainly isn't a cop out. I speak from experience " .... & so do i. Far to easy to say you suffer from mental health | |||
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"I love a clean house but sometimes fitting it in can be difficult so just a quick clean round happens until I lose the plot and do a complete weekend of cleaning. When its messy it makes my mind messy" They do say tidy house tidy mind | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. " Or can be the result of poor mental health  | |||
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"If I used the time I spend on fab cleaning my place it would be gleaming "This!! | |||
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"No. I clean my own home, and everyone elses, since I have a cleaning business. When we are sllowed in obvs!" Are clients allowing you back in to clean yet? | |||
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" Or can be the result of poor mental health "So true. I used to have a friend years ago that had so many awful things happen to her that her mental health suffered. Her house was disgusting! It was a massive hoard - just like the ones you see on TV now. In those days it wasnt understood - and I tried to help her but she needed a Councillor as well as someone to help her clean. Very sad. | |||
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"Have you read much research on poor mental health and it’s impact on daily life? It really isn’t an excuse and if you get chance have a google
No it’s not. If you’ve ever suffered from severe depression you’d know what an unbelievable effort and challenge it is to even bring yourself to put a load of washing on. It’s not a kop out. "Very true. As a result of my physical and mental health my house is, well, disgusting | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health "Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple. | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple. "As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear. Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed. I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework. It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant. Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't. | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.".... I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend. | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend."You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ".. You clearly have missed my point. Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?. Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers"Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions. Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ".. The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ..
The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear"Are you trying to say ppl exaggerate their mental heath issues or that they fake having them or that mental health issues are no excuse for not cleaning? | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ..
The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear
Are you trying to say ppl exaggerate their mental heath issues or that they fake having them or that mental health issues are no excuse for not cleaning?". Do people receive money from the government for claiming they suffer from MHI? | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ..
The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear
Are you trying to say ppl exaggerate their mental heath issues or that they fake having them or that mental health issues are no excuse for not cleaning?.
Do people receive money from the government for claiming they suffer from MHI?"I don’t work for the Department of Work and Pensions so I wouldn’t like to say | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ..
The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear
Are you trying to say ppl exaggerate their mental heath issues or that they fake having them or that mental health issues are no excuse for not cleaning?.
Do people receive money from the government for claiming they suffer from MHI?
I don’t work for the Department of Work and Pensions so I wouldn’t like to say ".... Do you think people should recieve financial gain if they say they have MHI | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ..
The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear
Are you trying to say ppl exaggerate their mental heath issues or that they fake having them or that mental health issues are no excuse for not cleaning?.
Do people receive money from the government for claiming they suffer from MHI?
I don’t work for the Department of Work and Pensions so I wouldn’t like to say ....
Do you think people should recieve financial gain if they say they have MHI"Are you referring to benefit fraud as you’ve mentioned ‘financial gain’? Or are you implying that the welfare state should discriminate against those that have mental illness? Or are you implying it’s not an illness and they shouldn’t receive money from the state? | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ..
The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear
Are you trying to say ppl exaggerate their mental heath issues or that they fake having them or that mental health issues are no excuse for not cleaning?.
Do people receive money from the government for claiming they suffer from MHI?
I don’t work for the Department of Work and Pensions so I wouldn’t like to say ....
Do you think people should recieve financial gain if they say they have MHI
Are you referring to benefit fraud as you’ve mentioned ‘financial gain’?
Or are you implying that the welfare state should discriminate against those that have mental illness?
Or are you implying it’s not an illness and they shouldn’t receive money from the state?
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ..
The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear
Are you trying to say ppl exaggerate their mental heath issues or that they fake having them or that mental health issues are no excuse for not cleaning?.
Do people receive money from the government for claiming they suffer from MHI?
I don’t work for the Department of Work and Pensions so I wouldn’t like to say ....
Do you think people should recieve financial gain if they say they have MHI
Are you referring to benefit fraud as you’ve mentioned ‘financial gain’?
Or are you implying that the welfare state should discriminate against those that have mental illness?
Or are you implying it’s not an illness and they shouldn’t receive money from the state?
Im implying nothing.."You speak a convincing arguement. All this scrolling down.... | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ..
The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear
Are you trying to say ppl exaggerate their mental heath issues or that they fake having them or that mental health issues are no excuse for not cleaning?.
Do people receive money from the government for claiming they suffer from MHI?
I don’t work for the Department of Work and Pensions so I wouldn’t like to say ....
Do you think people should recieve financial gain if they say they have MHI
Are you referring to benefit fraud as you’ve mentioned ‘financial gain’?
Or are you implying that the welfare state should discriminate against those that have mental illness?
Or are you implying it’s not an illness and they shouldn’t receive money from the state?
Im implying nothing.."At the risk of sounding rude can you get to the point because I’m at a loss as to where you going with your endless questions. You also seem intent on asking me questions I’m not qualified to answer or make a judgment on an entire group of ppl whose illnesses are so varied. Do you have a point or just an axe to grind because someone you know in your opinion is cheating the system? | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ..
The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear
Are you trying to say ppl exaggerate their mental heath issues or that they fake having them or that mental health issues are no excuse for not cleaning?.
Do people receive money from the government for claiming they suffer from MHI?
I don’t work for the Department of Work and Pensions so I wouldn’t like to say ....
Do you think people should recieve financial gain if they say they have MHI
Are you referring to benefit fraud as you’ve mentioned ‘financial gain’?
Or are you implying that the welfare state should discriminate against those that have mental illness?
Or are you implying it’s not an illness and they shouldn’t receive money from the state?
Im implying nothing..
At the risk of sounding rude can you get to the point because I’m at a loss as to where you going with your endless questions. You also seem intent on asking me questions I’m not qualified to answer or make a judgment on an entire group of ppl whose illnesses are so varied. Do you have a point or just an axe to grind because someone you know in your opinion is cheating the system?".. Ive no point to make & no judgement to pass. I answered the 5 topics but people jumped on point 5. Point 5 is still a tricky taboo subject that obviously people feel strongly about. | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ..
The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear
Are you trying to say ppl exaggerate their mental heath issues or that they fake having them or that mental health issues are no excuse for not cleaning?.
Do people receive money from the government for claiming they suffer from MHI?
I don’t work for the Department of Work and Pensions so I wouldn’t like to say ....
Do you think people should recieve financial gain if they say they have MHI
Are you referring to benefit fraud as you’ve mentioned ‘financial gain’?
Or are you implying that the welfare state should discriminate against those that have mental illness?
Or are you implying it’s not an illness and they shouldn’t receive money from the state?
Im implying nothing..
At the risk of sounding rude can you get to the point because I’m at a loss as to where you going with your endless questions. You also seem intent on asking me questions I’m not qualified to answer or make a judgment on an entire group of ppl whose illnesses are so varied. Do you have a point or just an axe to grind because someone you know in your opinion is cheating the system?..
Ive no point to make & no judgement to pass. I answered the 5 topics but people jumped on point 5. Point 5 is still a tricky taboo subject that obviously people feel strongly about."You just feel having seen it yourself, that there are ppl that don’t genuinely have a mental health illness or exaggerate symptoms in order to gain in various areas of their life? Given your experience it’s a reasonable assumption that it isn’t an isolated incident. However, I don’t think your assumption is true only of mental illness and why your posts have been perceived as judgemental and distasteful. Cheating the system is a huge problem in the UK and costs the tax payer and businesses untold amounts every year. I think we can all agree whatever guise is used to achieve this is wrong. | |||
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"Pink I’ve cleaned and scrubbed and my house smells beautiful and fresh as always. It didn’t take long either
I still haven’t done the oven though. I fear I will always be too busy for that. I might buy a new one "I did my grill pan and felt very proud. Id rather buy a new oven than clean mine too | |||
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"I live on my own so my place never gets too bad. It's easier when I stay on top of it and do little bits every day and a top to bottom clean once a week. There are always better things to do than cleaning but it has to be done! I like living in a clean tidy environment- mess is bad for anyones mental health. Or can be the result of poor mental health
Why is that? Your either clean or dirty. You know what is right & wrong in life the same way you know whats clean & dirty. Its that simple.
As I said earlier, if you're as low as you can be with depression,anxiety, suicidal thoughts your motivation to do anything can disappear.
Yes you still know right from wrong and clean from dirty but just can't be arsed.
I've been there as have you, I didn't get dressed or leave the house for months, I barely did any housework.
It's not that simple as you put it. Some can still function, some cant.
Just because you did function judging by your comments doesn't give you the right to judge others because they didn't or can't.....
I havent suffered from any mental health issues but i knew someone who did, then used it as an excuse & took the piss for years (bone idle springs to mind).. because of this it gives me the right to my opinion. Me i havent judged anyone. I have no right to judge anyone like no one has the right to judge me. I firmly believe far to many people say they suffer from it. How many people say they have MHI have been sectioned? I understand & know the legal side of sectioning. The term of i feel low is understandable, i get that but go back 20- 30 years plus & if you said you were suffering from MHI to the extent of suicide then the chances of getting locked up was high. Hospitals are modern now but back in the day it was an like entering shawshank prison but the term then was an asylum. You had no legal rights. My point is how many people now adays would say they had MHI if they knew they would be locked up like yesteryear? I take this topic seriously & not aiming to offend.
You clearly don't take it seriously if you think the barbaric and degrading treatment of years ago has any place in this sort of discussion. ..
You clearly have missed my point.
Have you ever taken a shit while the doors open & getting watched?.
Whether it happened 30 years ago plus or less than 15 years ago, yes in the 21st centuary doesnt matter. Barbaric, youve no idea. Im aware personaly.I feel far to many people say the suffer from MHI but in reality its an off day/week. I dont condone the stigma but also dont condone piss takers
Are you a qualified, trained professional in mental health? I doubt it
No one condoned piss takers but until you've walked in their shoes, think long and hard about your opinions.
Now the OP didn't want a debate on mental health rights and wrongs so I think we should leave it there ..
The topic shouldnt have been raised if freedom of speech wasnt allowed. A person may have qualifications in MHI but will that person ever understand?.. i can call piss takers piss takers if thats exactly what they are. I put to everyone. If you owed a business would you employee a person who said they had MHI? To anyone with an opinion. Have you ever been in an asylum? The MHI of today are no where near yesteryear
Are you trying to say ppl exaggerate their mental heath issues or that they fake having them or that mental health issues are no excuse for not cleaning?.
Do people receive money from the government for claiming they suffer from MHI?
I don’t work for the Department of Work and Pensions so I wouldn’t like to say ....
Do you think people should recieve financial gain if they say they have MHI
Are you referring to benefit fraud as you’ve mentioned ‘financial gain’?
Or are you implying that the welfare state should discriminate against those that have mental illness?
Or are you implying it’s not an illness and they shouldn’t receive money from the state?
Im implying nothing..
At the risk of sounding rude can you get to the point because I’m at a loss as to where you going with your endless questions. You also seem intent on asking me questions I’m not qualified to answer or make a judgment on an entire group of ppl whose illnesses are so varied. Do you have a point or just an axe to grind because someone you know in your opinion is cheating the system?..
Ive no point to make & no judgement to pass. I answered the 5 topics but people jumped on point 5. Point 5 is still a tricky taboo subject that obviously people feel strongly about.
You just feel having seen it yourself, that there are ppl that don’t genuinely have a mental health illness or exaggerate symptoms in order to gain in various areas of their life? Given your experience it’s a reasonable assumption that it isn’t an isolated incident. However, I don’t think your assumption is true only of mental illness and why your posts have been perceived as judgemental and distasteful. Cheating the system is a huge problem in the UK and costs the tax payer and businesses untold amounts every year. I think we can all agree whatever guise is used to achieve this is wrong. ". Pink. I agree with what youve just said. | |||
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