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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye !" It probably due to the FAKE news and stupid conspiracy theories he spouts. I don't understand how any intelligent person can possibly take him seriously? | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye !" Maybe he’s going back to presenting the darts? | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye ! It probably due to the FAKE news and stupid conspiracy theories he spouts. I don't understand how any intelligent person can possibly take him seriously? " I have listened to his conspiracy theories. Some I believe some were just totally nonsense. From whatever hes been saying at their is 1% of truth in them | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye !" Not really...he's a fucking loon who encourages criminal behaviour. | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye !" He tends to influence gullible people like tom so it's best to stop him. | |||
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"I hold no candle for Mr Icke, I'm just suspicious of any attempt to muzzle people with different views, however unsavoury they may be. The solution is pretty simple. If you dont like what he says, dont watch. I don't need a faceless social media giant to protect me from people I disagree with." That's ok if you have a brain and know how to use it but sadly that doesnt apply to everyone on social media. | |||
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"I hold no candle for Mr Icke, I'm just suspicious of any attempt to muzzle people with different views, however unsavoury they may be. The solution is pretty simple. If you dont like what he says, dont watch. I don't need a faceless social media giant to protect me from people I disagree with. That's ok if you have a brain and know how to use it but sadly that doesnt apply to everyone on social media." Applies to more than half of the American population, or so it would seem | |||
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"I hold no candle for Mr Icke, I'm just suspicious of any attempt to muzzle people with different views, however unsavoury they may be. The solution is pretty simple. If you dont like what he says, dont watch. I don't need a faceless social media giant to protect me from people I disagree with." to be fair he was causing bad behaviour in others x | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye ! It probably due to the FAKE news and stupid conspiracy theories he spouts. I don't understand how any intelligent person can possibly take him seriously? " I agree, but aren't there thousands of people on Facebook doing that? | |||
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"But should be be muzzled. ? What are they trying to hide ?" They’re trying to stop batshit crazy mental cases like him fool gullible people with endless streams of conspiracy horseshit. Prime example, all the numpties burning down 5G masts. | |||
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"I hold no candle for Mr Icke, I'm just suspicious of any attempt to muzzle people with different views, however unsavoury they may be. The solution is pretty simple. If you dont like what he says, dont watch. I don't need a faceless social media giant to protect me from people I disagree with." Unfortunately there are too many who latch on to his lies in an obsessive and dangerous way. His recent hatred of 5G for example has actively encouraged people to commit criminal damage. Cal | |||
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"Must be the interdimentional lizard people got to him! Save yourself while you can." Is it stranger to believe in a race of beings evolved from lizards, or that God exists? Miracles are real, and when you take the eucharist you're actually eating and drinking the physical body of jesus christ? | |||
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"I hold no candle for Mr Icke, I'm just suspicious of any attempt to muzzle people with different views, however unsavoury they may be. The solution is pretty simple. If you dont like what he says, dont watch. I don't need a faceless social media giant to protect me from people I disagree with. Unfortunately there are too many who latch on to his lies in an obsessive and dangerous way. His recent hatred of 5G for example has actively encouraged people to commit criminal damage. Cal " Should we ban Islam because of the Charlie Hebdo shootings? | |||
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"Let's not forget that this is the same man that claimed to be the second coming. He clearly has mental health issues and i find it hard to believe people don't take this into account when listening to his rhetoric. " | |||
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"I hold no candle for Mr Icke, I'm just suspicious of any attempt to muzzle people with different views, however unsavoury they may be. The solution is pretty simple. If you dont like what he says, dont watch. I don't need a faceless social media giant to protect me from people I disagree with." You appreciate that his nonsense has encouraged some people to break the law though? Meaning that they very much do need a social media giant to protect them. | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? " It's a slippery slope isn't it. This guy is clearly an idiot but we need people to expose the government, big businesses etc. If we censor him we stop this from happening. | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? " Facebook is very much like this forum and website, the people who own it decide who is censored and who isn't. | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? It's a slippery slope isn't it. This guy is clearly an idiot but we need people to expose the government, big businesses etc. If we censor him we stop this from happening. " Yep. It's OK to censor conspiracy theorists but what happens when the definition of a conspiracy theory is changed? | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye !" Facebook is not 'the authorities', it is a privately owned website whose rules you agree to abide by when you sign up, break the rules they kick you off. He is hardly being dragged off to a Siberian gulag. | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? It's a slippery slope isn't it. This guy is clearly an idiot but we need people to expose the government, big businesses etc. If we censor him we stop this from happening. Yep. It's OK to censor conspiracy theorists but what happens when the definition of a conspiracy theory is changed? " Then you (as a society) revisit the decision about whether to censor something. | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? It's a slippery slope isn't it. This guy is clearly an idiot but we need people to expose the government, big businesses etc. If we censor him we stop this from happening. Yep. It's OK to censor conspiracy theorists but what happens when the definition of a conspiracy theory is changed? Then you (as a society) revisit the decision about whether to censor something. " Society doesn't decide what is censored though. The media, government and big businesses do. Social media was supposed to be able to give the individual the power of expressing their opinions unfiltered. This isn't the actuality though is it. | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye !" He was removed weeks ago. | |||
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"The likes of Facebook can't win. Only a few years ago they were getting hammered for not cracking down on the likes of Cambridge Analytica for spreading misinformation. Since then they've said they'll be tighter on that type of thing, particularly where it encourages dangerous behaviour. In this case, he was saying that a virus can't spread through a handshake amongst other weird things. I know its a fine line, but in this case I think it's probably justified. Problem is that anyone who is banned claims they're being "silenced" and uses it to get their more rabid followers to take up their cause. Not an easy one at all" They could have put a warning up on his page or some other measure. It didn't need to be all or nothing. | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? It's a slippery slope isn't it. This guy is clearly an idiot but we need people to expose the government, big businesses etc. If we censor him we stop this from happening. Yep. It's OK to censor conspiracy theorists but what happens when the definition of a conspiracy theory is changed? Then you (as a society) revisit the decision about whether to censor something. Society doesn't decide what is censored though. The media, government and big businesses do. Social media was supposed to be able to give the individual the power of expressing their opinions unfiltered. This isn't the actuality though is it." Society doesnt mean the individual. It's a combination of people, leaders, religion, industry. Its complex and different for different groups. I'd argue society has decided social media isnt a place where people can say anything they want whenever they want. | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? " Ooh tricky one, parenting nowadays with the influence of social media must be a tricky one.. I suppose Mr Icke can still lawfully go and preach at Hyde Park Corner..? | |||
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"The likes of Facebook can't win. Only a few years ago they were getting hammered for not cracking down on the likes of Cambridge Analytica for spreading misinformation. Since then they've said they'll be tighter on that type of thing, particularly where it encourages dangerous behaviour. In this case, he was saying that a virus can't spread through a handshake amongst other weird things. I know its a fine line, but in this case I think it's probably justified. Problem is that anyone who is banned claims they're being "silenced" and uses it to get their more rabid followers to take up their cause. Not an easy one at all They could have put a warning up on his page or some other measure. It didn't need to be all or nothing. " I'd need to check but I'm sure one of the social media channels said he'd been banned for "repeatedly violated" their regulations (which suggests he'd already had warnings). Ultimately its like any other membership group/club. There are rules, and if you break them on a regular basis, you'll be asked to leave | |||
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"Let's not forget that this is the same man that claimed to be the second coming. He clearly has mental health issues and i find it hard to believe people don't take this into account when listening to his rhetoric. " I think he was misquoted as actually saying that he believed we were all the children of "god". | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? It's a slippery slope isn't it. This guy is clearly an idiot but we need people to expose the government, big businesses etc. If we censor him we stop this from happening. Yep. It's OK to censor conspiracy theorists but what happens when the definition of a conspiracy theory is changed? Then you (as a society) revisit the decision about whether to censor something. Society doesn't decide what is censored though. The media, government and big businesses do. Social media was supposed to be able to give the individual the power of expressing their opinions unfiltered. This isn't the actuality though is it. Society doesnt mean the individual. It's a combination of people, leaders, religion, industry. Its complex and different for different groups. I'd argue society has decided social media isnt a place where people can say anything they want whenever they want. " If you look back at it's introduction that's exactly how it was sold. In regards to society your comment implied that it was a united decision. My point is that it's not and various individual elements of a society make that decision. | |||
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"I find this very odd, Facebook is not censoring anyone, there are things you can't do and say on Facebook and if you do or say those things you get kicked off. There are things you can't do or say on Fabswingers and if you do or say those things you get kicked off here too. I'm no fan of Facebook but to start bandying around nonsense like the 'authorities' are censoring people because Icke broke the rules is just tinfoil hat bollocks. Unless of course Facebook are now the government and I hadn't noticed." Some want their cake and and eat it, the thought that free speech has responsibilities and possible consequences is anathema to some who just want to divide, cause mayhem.. | |||
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"The likes of Facebook can't win. Only a few years ago they were getting hammered for not cracking down on the likes of Cambridge Analytica for spreading misinformation. Since then they've said they'll be tighter on that type of thing, particularly where it encourages dangerous behaviour. In this case, he was saying that a virus can't spread through a handshake amongst other weird things. I know its a fine line, but in this case I think it's probably justified. Problem is that anyone who is banned claims they're being "silenced" and uses it to get their more rabid followers to take up their cause. Not an easy one at all They could have put a warning up on his page or some other measure. It didn't need to be all or nothing. I'd need to check but I'm sure one of the social media channels said he'd been banned for "repeatedly violated" their regulations (which suggests he'd already had warnings). Ultimately its like any other membership group/club. There are rules, and if you break them on a regular basis, you'll be asked to leave" I was thinking of a content warning to the readers that his page contained contentious information. | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? It's a slippery slope isn't it. This guy is clearly an idiot but we need people to expose the government, big businesses etc. If we censor him we stop this from happening. Yep. It's OK to censor conspiracy theorists but what happens when the definition of a conspiracy theory is changed? Then you (as a society) revisit the decision about whether to censor something. Society doesn't decide what is censored though. The media, government and big businesses do. Social media was supposed to be able to give the individual the power of expressing their opinions unfiltered. This isn't the actuality though is it. Society doesnt mean the individual. It's a combination of people, leaders, religion, industry. Its complex and different for different groups. I'd argue society has decided social media isnt a place where people can say anything they want whenever they want. " The question to that is, is that because people want to live in ignorant bliss. The science on how viruses & bacteria are transferred is pretty conclusive. Yet you've got bigger idiots like Trump, who is a leader of billions telling folk to inject disinfectant! now how did that idiot to be president? We'll big business wanted him there so they could do what they like. Including but not limited to making it illegal to protest against any of the oil lines regardless of the damage they do & signing off on extracting resources from the grand canyon, all of which done under lockdown so it couldn't be objected. This is why freedom of speech is important. Bullying doesn't fall under freedom of speech in my opinion. | |||
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"I hold no candle for Mr Icke, I'm just suspicious of any attempt to muzzle people with different views, however unsavoury they may be. The solution is pretty simple. If you dont like what he says, dont watch. I don't need a faceless social media giant to protect me from people I disagree with. Unfortunately there are too many who latch on to his lies in an obsessive and dangerous way. His recent hatred of 5G for example has actively encouraged people to commit criminal damage. Cal ----- Should we ban Islam because of the Charlie Hebdo shootings?" I don't believe they've banned conspiracy theories, or even stupidity. They do however remove people promoting hate or criminal activities in the name of Islam... or any other "cause" Cal | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? It's a slippery slope isn't it. This guy is clearly an idiot but we need people to expose the government, big businesses etc. If we censor him we stop this from happening. Yep. It's OK to censor conspiracy theorists but what happens when the definition of a conspiracy theory is changed? Then you (as a society) revisit the decision about whether to censor something. Society doesn't decide what is censored though. The media, government and big businesses do. Social media was supposed to be able to give the individual the power of expressing their opinions unfiltered. This isn't the actuality though is it. Society doesnt mean the individual. It's a combination of people, leaders, religion, industry. Its complex and different for different groups. I'd argue society has decided social media isnt a place where people can say anything they want whenever they want. If you look back at it's introduction that's exactly how it was sold. In regards to society your comment implied that it was a united decision. My point is that it's not and various individual elements of a society make that decision." Mark Zuckerberg might have wanted that, but society has changed it to suits its needs (an exaggeration I know but I hope you get my point) Societies never speak with one voice because, especially western societies, they are usually conflicted on pretty much every major issue and subject. That is why we elect leaders to make those decisions. True they are influenced by the media and other groups but if we dont like their choice in theory we dont elect them again. | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? It's a slippery slope isn't it. This guy is clearly an idiot but we need people to expose the government, big businesses etc. If we censor him we stop this from happening. Yep. It's OK to censor conspiracy theorists but what happens when the definition of a conspiracy theory is changed? Then you (as a society) revisit the decision about whether to censor something. Society doesn't decide what is censored though. The media, government and big businesses do. Social media was supposed to be able to give the individual the power of expressing their opinions unfiltered. This isn't the actuality though is it. Society doesnt mean the individual. It's a combination of people, leaders, religion, industry. Its complex and different for different groups. I'd argue society has decided social media isnt a place where people can say anything they want whenever they want. If you look back at it's introduction that's exactly how it was sold. In regards to society your comment implied that it was a united decision. My point is that it's not and various individual elements of a society make that decision. Mark Zuckerberg might have wanted that, but society has changed it to suits its needs (an exaggeration I know but I hope you get my point) Societies never speak with one voice because, especially western societies, they are usually conflicted on pretty much every major issue and subject. That is why we elect leaders to make those decisions. True they are influenced by the media and other groups but if we dont like their choice in theory we dont elect them again. " I understand what you say but we both know that political parties are now more of a popularity contest between media friendly leaders these days. The parties are less about standing up for their beliefs and more about how they can court the public without contradicting the core foundations on which they were founded. | |||
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"Is censorship OK and if so who decides who or what's censored? It's a slippery slope isn't it. This guy is clearly an idiot but we need people to expose the government, big businesses etc. If we censor him we stop this from happening. Yep. It's OK to censor conspiracy theorists but what happens when the definition of a conspiracy theory is changed? Then you (as a society) revisit the decision about whether to censor something. Society doesn't decide what is censored though. The media, government and big businesses do. Social media was supposed to be able to give the individual the power of expressing their opinions unfiltered. This isn't the actuality though is it. Society doesnt mean the individual. It's a combination of people, leaders, religion, industry. Its complex and different for different groups. I'd argue society has decided social media isnt a place where people can say anything they want whenever they want. If you look back at it's introduction that's exactly how it was sold. In regards to society your comment implied that it was a united decision. My point is that it's not and various individual elements of a society make that decision. Mark Zuckerberg might have wanted that, but society has changed it to suits its needs (an exaggeration I know but I hope you get my point) Societies never speak with one voice because, especially western societies, they are usually conflicted on pretty much every major issue and subject. That is why we elect leaders to make those decisions. True they are influenced by the media and other groups but if we dont like their choice in theory we dont elect them again. I understand what you say but we both know that political parties are now more of a popularity contest between media friendly leaders these days. The parties are less about standing up for their beliefs and more about how they can court the public without contradicting the core foundations on which they were founded. " Absolutely. Which is why trust in and respect for politicians is pretty much non existent now. Which circles back to conspiracy theorists being able to say the authorities are lying to us all, and people being willing to believe them. | |||
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"Who is that guy? any links to direct me his messages to do a background check " He's a man who consistently broke Facebook's content policy. So they removed his account. That's the full story. | |||
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"I listened to his lectures on you tube.. fascinating.. Blizzard that people believe in imaginary god's yet the moment a second coming arrives then the same people ridicule the idea.. I don't know why he is being silenced. He was a pro goalkeeper at one time. What are they afraid of? " Okay. No one is silencing him, as evidenced by what you just said here: "I listened to his lectures on you tube.. " I'm with you on why people believe in fairy tales. Either religious dogma, or Dave's ramblings about lizard people etc. Does being a pro goal keeper give you access to information the rest of us don't get? | |||
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"Absolutely. Now we're back where we started though with should we be censoring. Great debate though. I loved it. " It's not really censorship though. It's a private company saying they don't want that on their particular platform. There are plenty of other places he can spout whatever madness he wishes. If it were "The Government" locking him away, then I would defend him. At present it's just the same as me not allowing my Uncle Terry into my house, as he is an unconsionable racist. I'm not stopping him anywhere else, just on my property. | |||
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"Absolutely. Now we're back where we started though with should we be censoring. Great debate though. I loved it. It's not really censorship though. It's a private company saying they don't want that on their particular platform. There are plenty of other places he can spout whatever madness he wishes. If it were "The Government" locking him away, then I would defend him. At present it's just the same as me not allowing my Uncle Terry into my house, as he is an unconsionable racist. I'm not stopping him anywhere else, just on my property. " It's the very definition of censorship. Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient." Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions, and other controlling bodies. If you ban your uncle from visiting you based on the fact that you don't want him spitting his racist bile to you and your family then you have censored him. You have denied him a platform in which to state his obnoxious beliefs. | |||
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"Absolutely. Now we're back where we started though with should we be censoring. Great debate though. I loved it. It's not really censorship though. It's a private company saying they don't want that on their particular platform. There are plenty of other places he can spout whatever madness he wishes. If it were "The Government" locking him away, then I would defend him. At present it's just the same as me not allowing my Uncle Terry into my house, as he is an unconsionable racist. I'm not stopping him anywhere else, just on my property. It's the very definition of censorship. Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient." Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions, and other controlling bodies. If you ban your uncle from visiting you based on the fact that you don't want him spitting his racist bile to you and your family then you have censored him. You have denied him a platform in which to state his obnoxious beliefs." I'd argue his communication is not being suppressed. That is entirely different. He is free to provide his own platform and no one would stop him. It's probably semantics though. I think most people use the word censor now, in relation to state censorship. Ultimately, it's perfectly legal to deny someone the use of your privately owned platform. | |||
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"There is more to this than meets the eye" 5G probably... | |||
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"There is more to this than meets the eye" No there's not. The guy is a complete helmet and fully deserves the ban | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye !" Please tell me this is sarcastic. | |||
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"They silenced him .. Who are they ?" You just asked yourself a question. What was the answer? | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye ! Same reason they removed Tommy Robinson. Because they're full of shit" Spot on! | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye ! Same reason they removed Tommy Robinson. Because they're full of shit Spot on! " No comparison here.. | |||
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"I hold no candle for Mr Icke, I'm just suspicious of any attempt to muzzle people with different views, however unsavoury they may be. The solution is pretty simple. If you dont like what he says, dont watch. I don't need a faceless social media giant to protect me from people I disagree with." Agree with you..no matter how crazy or stupid there is supposed to exist a right to free speech for everyone..they do like to play nanny for us | |||
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"I hold no candle for Mr Icke, I'm just suspicious of any attempt to muzzle people with different views, however unsavoury they may be. The solution is pretty simple. If you dont like what he says, dont watch. I don't need a faceless social media giant to protect me from people I disagree with." | |||
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"5G isn't as great as folk make it out especially for other species like migrating birds, they get disoriented & fly into buildings and die by the flock much in the same way sonar disrupts whales causing them to beach (mainly whilst hunting for oil to rip from the earth) It's not all about humans. Tell me where really is the need to be able to send something a nano second or 2 quicker? There isn't except in a capitalist world and the amount of energy that data centres and servers use (especially for videos, largely porn btw) is ridiculous. Much required less for text & calls. That is part of the reason people are against 5G. Can always use a land-line it doesn't get disputed by cell towers being down. " I'm not convinced by the bird argument. This is not a brand new piece of the spectrum being used here, it's been used for decades (just not for this purpose). However, people can campaign against 5G, that is their right. But that's very different to saying it causes Covid-19, encouraging people to go out and burn these things down. | |||
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"5G isn't as great as folk make it out especially for other species like migrating birds, they get disoriented & fly into buildings and die by the flock much in the same way sonar disrupts whales causing them to beach (mainly whilst hunting for oil to rip from the earth) It's not all about humans. " Can you show any proof of this? The frequencies used for 5G have actually been in use for decades for other uses. Amongst other things, they are commonly used for communication between mobile phone towers, and also for radio telescopes. Cal | |||
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"But why are they silencing him...? " You have been told why. | |||
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"But why are they silencing him...? You have been told why. " Been told..? This is now getting sinister | |||
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"But why are they silencing him...? " They're not silencing him. The owners of YouTube have said his output contravenes their community standards. They are a private company and entitled to ban whoever or whatever they like. Fab won't let you post a fully dressed photo of you holding a kitten. Is this infringing your right to free speech? No, of course not - if you want to upload pics of you holding a kitten there are plenty of sites where you can. Mr 'I believe the the prime minister is a lizard' is able to post his nonsense on numerous sites, he isn't being arrested for it nor taken to court. | |||
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"Things took a turn for the worse when he began saying that Bill Gates is lining himself up to become an unelected leader of some kind of new world order thing. " Was he jealous? | |||
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"They need a laughing emoji on here im in stitches david Icke what a complete nutter" So why silence him | |||
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"They need a laughing emoji on here im in stitches david Icke what a complete nutter So why silence him " Because the nutter is spreading misinformation that people with a low IQ believe. | |||
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"But why are they silencing him...? " It is because he goes against the narrative, the official story of what's happening that is reported in the media, news, newspapers. Facebook/Google/youtube...etc do not want anything that goes against the official narrative hence all the banning, censoring and deletion. | |||
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"Icke is a fuckwit, and anyone that gives the tiniest hint of credence to his fuckwitery is, by extension, a fuckwit " Don't be mean to fuckwits he's much lower down the tree | |||
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"But why are they silencing him...? They're not silencing him. The owners of YouTube have said his output contravenes their community standards. They are a private company and entitled to ban whoever or whatever they like. Fab won't let you post a fully dressed photo of you holding a kitten. Is this infringing your right to free speech? No, of course not - if you want to upload pics of you holding a kitten there are plenty of sites where you can. Mr 'I believe the the prime minister is a lizard' is able to post his nonsense on numerous sites, he isn't being arrested for it nor taken to court. " This makes no sense...if he is a fool why are the authorities so worried ? | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye ! It probably due to the FAKE news and stupid conspiracy theories he spouts. I don't understand how any intelligent person can possibly take him seriously? " You don’t have to take anyone seriously. But shutting people down because you don’t agree with them is more dangerous then what he says. Agenda 21 is becoming real. | |||
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"Icke is a magnet for the paranoid and the dumb. His views say more about his psyche than the real world. I despair that anyone can take him seriously.....get a grip, people. Spread love, not ill conceived notions lol xx" When he was on Wogan years ago he said that the big corporations ran the world and not George Bush and people in the audience laughed. If people criticize anyone then they should at least explain why | |||
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"Icke is a magnet for the paranoid and the dumb. His views say more about his psyche than the real world. I despair that anyone can take him seriously.....get a grip, people. Spread love, not ill conceived notions lol xx When he was on Wogan years ago he said that the big corporations ran the world and not George Bush and people in the audience laughed. If people criticize anyone then they should at least explain why" I saw that and Wogan was laughing at him.. This guy is unlocking doors and they are worried...someone is silencing his debate.. Very very sinister | |||
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"Icke is a magnet for the paranoid and the dumb. His views say more about his psyche than the real world. I despair that anyone can take him seriously.....get a grip, people. Spread love, not ill conceived notions lol xx When he was on Wogan years ago he said that the big corporations ran the world and not George Bush and people in the audience laughed. If people criticize anyone then they should at least explain why" I saw that and Wogan was laughing at him.. This guy is unlocking doors and they are worried...someone is silencing his debate.. Very very sinister | |||
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"Icke is a magnet for the paranoid and the dumb. His views say more about his psyche than the real world. I despair that anyone can take him seriously.....get a grip, people. Spread love, not ill conceived notions lol xx When he was on Wogan years ago he said that the big corporations ran the world and not George Bush and people in the audience laughed. If people criticize anyone then they should at least explain why" Because in America, businesses lobby & pay politicians to pass bills in their favour with money into their campaign funds, so he's correct there. Obama made this illegal & Trump's first order was to reverse it, so Trump is the ultimate version of this, since he's also in bed with Russia. | |||
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"But why are they silencing him...? It is because he goes against the narrative, the official story of what's happening that is reported in the media, news, newspapers. Facebook/Google/youtube...etc do not want anything that goes against the official narrative hence all the banning, censoring and deletion. This makes sense...very concerning " This is why you'll get Google censoring search results, government warnings about misinformation on facebook and Wikipedia links at top of youtube page if you enter a controversial word. These sites are run by powerful establishments who are worried about anything that goes against the official narrative and people reading it. | |||
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"If David icke is starting to sound reasonable to you, it's time to get a hobby.. " Why is that then? | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye !" My daughter went to school with his son and had a brief relationship with him. Trust me the man is a lunatic. I saw first hand what a crock of shit he spouts | |||
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"Icke is a magnet for the paranoid and the dumb. His views say more about his psyche than the real world. I despair that anyone can take him seriously.....get a grip, people. Spread love, not ill conceived notions lol xx When he was on Wogan years ago he said that the big corporations ran the world and not George Bush and people in the audience laughed. If people criticize anyone then they should at least explain why Because in America, businesses lobby & pay politicians to pass bills in their favour with money into their campaign funds, so he's correct there. Obama made this illegal & Trump's first order was to reverse it, so Trump is the ultimate version of this, since he's also in bed with Russia. " Oh dear. The press really have got in to your head. It was proven this week that the great Obama set all that story in motion to bring him down. | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye ! My daughter went to school with his son and had a brief relationship with him. Trust me the man is a lunatic. I saw first hand what a crock of shit he spouts" Just out of interest. Did the son have the same views? | |||
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"Icke is a magnet for the paranoid and the dumb. His views say more about his psyche than the real world. I despair that anyone can take him seriously.....get a grip, people. Spread love, not ill conceived notions lol xx When he was on Wogan years ago he said that the big corporations ran the world and not George Bush and people in the audience laughed. If people criticize anyone then they should at least explain why Because in America, businesses lobby & pay politicians to pass bills in their favour with money into their campaign funds, so he's correct there. Obama made this illegal & Trump's first order was to reverse it, so Trump is the ultimate version of this, since he's also in bed with Russia. Oh dear. The press really have got in to your head. It was proven this week that the great Obama set all that story in motion to bring him down. " Proven? Really? Please provide links to this proof | |||
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"If David icke is starting to sound reasonable to you, it's time to get a hobby.. Why is that then?" Because if you look at anything he says with a little objectivety and reasoned though, you will clearly see that the man is spouting absolute fucking bilge. | |||
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"There is an official narrative to every world event.. JFK killed by loneshooter lee harvey oswald 9/11 twin towers attacked by terrorists Iraq have WMDs The coronovirus originated from a Wuhan wet market and spread worldwide accidentally If you go against the official narrative on a social platform, like david icke often does, then you run the risk of being censored or removed. " Of course, if you replace the word "official" with "true" that statement then makes sense. There's enough real problems in the world to deal with, we don't have to make other ones up... | |||
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"There is an official narrative to every world event.. JFK killed by loneshooter lee harvey oswald 9/11 twin towers attacked by terrorists Iraq have WMDs The coronovirus originated from a Wuhan wet market and spread worldwide accidentally If you go against the official narrative on a social platform, like david icke often does, then you run the risk of being censored or removed. Of course, if you replace the word "official" with "true" that statement then makes sense. There's enough real problems in the world to deal with, we don't have to make other ones up..." You're saying that it's true that Iraq has WMDs and Blair n Bush are telling the truth? | |||
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"David Icke has been removed from Facebook. Very strange. Are the authorities trying to hide something. More to this than meets the eye !" yes open your eyes | |||
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"I think he's Fab." finally | |||
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"Just another very rich person coining it in, potentially on the backs of those in misery. He can't expect to use private services and to push unsubstantiated garbage that puts lives at risk. Likewise the anti-vaccer movement should not expect to peddle dangerous lies via social media. They are putting many lives at risk and are a serious danger to the public. Icke is just another of those on the bandwagon, hawking BS to the gullible, so that they sustain PR for their egos and rake in easy money at public cost. " lives in a 1 bedder humbling flat lol | |||
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"Just another very rich person coining it in, potentially on the backs of those in misery. He can't expect to use private services and to push unsubstantiated garbage that puts lives at risk. Likewise the anti-vaccer movement should not expect to peddle dangerous lies via social media. They are putting many lives at risk and are a serious danger to the public. Icke is just another of those on the bandwagon, hawking BS to the gullible, so that they sustain PR for their egos and rake in easy money at public cost. " he lives in a 1 bedder humbling flat lol | |||
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"I hold no candle for Mr Icke, I'm just suspicious of any attempt to muzzle people with different views, however unsavoury they may be. The solution is pretty simple. If you dont like what he says, dont watch. I don't need a faceless social media giant to protect me from people I disagree with." | |||
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"I woke up two years ago. Hence current events are not too much of a surprise. It's gonna get bad as we enter the coming reset. Those prejudiced against Icke checkout Richplanet.net, ukcolumn, thecrowhouse, vernon coleman, the observation deck to name but a few." Fuck me, thats along time to be awake!! Herbal tea can be good | |||
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"Just another very rich person coining it in, potentially on the backs of those in misery. He can't expect to use private services and to push unsubstantiated garbage that puts lives at risk. Likewise the anti-vaccer movement should not expect to peddle dangerous lies via social media. They are putting many lives at risk and are a serious danger to the public. Icke is just another of those on the bandwagon, hawking BS to the gullible, so that they sustain PR for their egos and rake in easy money at public cost. he lives in a 1 bedder humbling flat lol" He's a multimillionaire, whatever his current abode. My thoughts still stand. | |||
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"I woke up two years ago. Hence current events are not too much of a surprise. It's gonna get bad as we enter the coming reset. Those prejudiced against Icke checkout Richplanet.net, ukcolumn, thecrowhouse, vernon coleman, the observation deck to name but a few." You could alternatively consider that most people are not prejudiced against him but have researched and created their own conclusions. | |||
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"Very disappointed in this thread but then you have to remember most will always be asleep " Sshhhh our alien lizard overlords will hear you. | |||
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"Very disappointed in this thread but then you have to remember most will always be asleep " Thankfully I'm alert enough to see that I am wanted for manipulation by such individuals, for their financial and ego gains. | |||
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"Just another very rich person coining it in, potentially on the backs of those in misery. He can't expect to use private services and to push unsubstantiated garbage that puts lives at risk. Likewise the anti-vaccer movement should not expect to peddle dangerous lies via social media. They are putting many lives at risk and are a serious danger to the public. Icke is just another of those on the bandwagon, hawking BS to the gullible, so that they sustain PR for their egos and rake in easy money at public cost. " Check his accounts. 2018 compared to 2019 showed he was losing money, one of the few that's happy about Covid no doubt, his earnings will be back up this year. | |||
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"It's all getting a bit too much 1984. " Surely you mean 2020 as the thread is already 8 months old and getting older by the minute? | |||
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"Very disappointed in this thread but then you have to remember most will always be asleep Thankfully I'm alert enough to see that I am wanted for manipulation by such individuals, for their financial and ego gains. " I'm sure you're smarter than the sheeple and for only ten payments of £10.99 you can have your "I've woken up, take that MSM" certificate. Order now, stocks are limited. Take your place among the elite smartester cohort. It's the future. Don't delay! | |||
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"Just give these loony conspiracy theorists a good shove of the edge of the earth." | |||
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"He's a onetime half descent goalkeeper who breeds his infamy on the fears of insecure conspiracy theorists who have nothing better to do with their lives than compare life to either films like The Matrix or believe in secret governments ran by reptiles... yep He's a twat " Have you considered that he may, just may have a mental illness. If he does suffer from mental illness which contributes to his views then is he a Twat then ? | |||
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"He's a onetime half descent goalkeeper who breeds his infamy on the fears of insecure conspiracy theorists who have nothing better to do with their lives than compare life to either films like The Matrix or believe in secret governments ran by reptiles... yep He's a twat Have you considered that he may, just may have a mental illness. If he does suffer from mental illness which contributes to his views then is he a Twat then ?" Your argument could be used to excuse all behaviours, I'm sure you dont mean to do that or do you? I was going to use Hitler as an example but I forgot that Ike and his acolytes don't believe the Holocaust happened. So yes he's a twat. | |||
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"I find him a fascinating character..." Why,because everytime he opens his mouth he's insulting your intelligence Tom..? Every now and then he says something crass and scandalous just to remind people he's still there and err... don't forget his new books out. | |||
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"I find him a fascinating character... Why,because everytime he opens his mouth he's insulting your intelligence Tom..? Every now and then he says something crass and scandalous just to remind people he's still there and err... don't forget his new books out. " Well he certainly brings a new perspective.. I remember an old interview with Terry Wogan.. I detested the way he was set up to be laughed at.. it was almost cruel.. I believe he passionatly believes what he believes.. he is no Deep South Gospel conman.. fascinating man.. | |||
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"I find him a fascinating character... Why,because everytime he opens his mouth he's insulting your intelligence Tom..? Every now and then he says something crass and scandalous just to remind people he's still there and err... don't forget his new books out. Well he certainly brings a new perspective.. I remember an old interview with Terry Wogan.. I detested the way he was set up to be laughed at.. it was almost cruel.. I believe he passionatly believes what he believes.. he is no Deep South Gospel conman.. fascinating man.." Many people fervently and passionately believe what they believe - it helps when beliefs can be peer reviewed and fact checked. Otherwise we just end up choosing things we like best. Science is a bit less democratic than this. | |||
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"I find him a fascinating character... Why,because everytime he opens his mouth he's insulting your intelligence Tom..? Every now and then he says something crass and scandalous just to remind people he's still there and err... don't forget his new books out. Well he certainly brings a new perspective.. I remember an old interview with Terry Wogan.. I detested the way he was set up to be laughed at.. it was almost cruel.. I believe he passionatly believes what he believes.. he is no Deep South Gospel conman.. fascinating man.. Many people fervently and passionately believe what they believe - it helps when beliefs can be peer reviewed and fact checked. Otherwise we just end up choosing things we like best. Science is a bit less democratic than this." Well you can scientifically peer review the Bible and a host of religions.. you could perhaps say that science could discredit them.. does society want to do that ? Live together with love.. room for both.. religion makes so many live with happiness and comfort .. why would us scientists destroy that...? | |||
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"I hold no candle for Mr Icke, I'm just suspicious of any attempt to muzzle people with different views, however unsavoury they may be. The solution is pretty simple. If you dont like what he says, dont watch. I don't need a faceless social media giant to protect me from people I disagree with. That's ok if you have a brain and know how to use it but sadly that doesnt apply to everyone on social media." totally agree. Particularly Covid deniers. A movement that is gaining ground and is stupid and putting people at risk | |||
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"I find him a fascinating character... Why,because everytime he opens his mouth he's insulting your intelligence Tom..? Every now and then he says something crass and scandalous just to remind people he's still there and err... don't forget his new books out. Well he certainly brings a new perspective.. I remember an old interview with Terry Wogan.. I detested the way he was set up to be laughed at.. it was almost cruel.. I believe he passionatly believes what he believes.. he is no Deep South Gospel conman.. fascinating man.." I saw that Wogan interview too. He wasn't set up but prior to the TV show he was widely reported in the papers as saying he was the son of God. Wogan made fun but let's face it who wouldn't. I'm a little bit too educated to be wasting valuable life time on his rhetoric and you should too. Unless you really believe the Queen is a lizard | |||
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"The bloke is a raving nut job so nothing suprises me?" Aka.. a person with mental health issues .. perhaps.. I have suffered mental health issues in my life so I try not to judge.. all I can say is this.. I went to a psychiatrist because I actually believed that I was a Labrador in a previous life.. he asked me to lay down on the couch.. I said I am not allowed on the couch... | |||
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"I find him a fascinating character... Why,because everytime he opens his mouth he's insulting your intelligence Tom..? Every now and then he says something crass and scandalous just to remind people he's still there and err... don't forget his new books out. Well he certainly brings a new perspective.. I remember an old interview with Terry Wogan.. I detested the way he was set up to be laughed at.. it was almost cruel.. I believe he passionatly believes what he believes.. he is no Deep South Gospel conman.. fascinating man.. Many people fervently and passionately believe what they believe - it helps when beliefs can be peer reviewed and fact checked. Otherwise we just end up choosing things we like best. Science is a bit less democratic than this. Well you can scientifically peer review the Bible and a host of religions.. you could perhaps say that science could discredit them.. does society want to do that ? Live together with love.. room for both.. religion makes so many live with happiness and comfort .. why would us scientists destroy that...? " I think if you have a look, Religion and religious persecution has killed more people than Stalin. I don’t accept that Cults should be allowed to pitch their vile and dangerous beliefs. Trump has cult followers as well - that went well. | |||
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"Spreads as much disinformation as the bbc,sly,itv etc." Nope - David Icke is the equivalent of QAnon. Misguided, malicious and malevolent. News channels do not do this. | |||
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