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"Basically that a most of the "enviromentalists" that are trying to move us away from fossil are in the pockets of big business of the likes of the petroleum industry and investors like Goldman Sachs. People like Al Gore who who wants us to move away from fossil fuels in favour of biomass, specifically sugar cane. What a surprise he is a major investor. It's all about profits. There is much more to it though so I recommend you watch it."  thank you! Might do that. | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there." Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. | |||
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"I've heard about it, not watched it yet. " You really should. It confirmed all of my cynicism. | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly." Can't disagree but I'm yet to hear about a viable alternative, doesn't mean there isn't one I guess | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. Can't disagree but I'm yet to hear about a viable alternative, doesn't mean there isn't one I guess" The end of the human race would be a good start. We are a cancer on this planet. We think we can grow and exploit the planet exponentially which is just delusion. | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. Can't disagree but I'm yet to hear about a viable alternative, doesn't mean there isn't one I guess The end of the human race would be a good start. We are a cancer on this planet. We think we can grow and exploit the planet exponentially which is just delusion." But what if we are the only intelligent life in the universe, we could be. Changing how we behave not ending it must be the only option surely | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. Can't disagree but I'm yet to hear about a viable alternative, doesn't mean there isn't one I guess The end of the human race would be a good start. We are a cancer on this planet. We think we can grow and exploit the planet exponentially which is just delusion. But what if we are the only intelligent life in the universe, we could be. Changing how we behave not ending it must be the only option surely" But we wont change, that's the problem. | |||
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"A new film on YouTube, produced by Michael Moore. It's one of those films that makes you think that perhaps covid 19 may actually be a good thing for the planet. People are the worst "Agree. And may be good thing for ppl too. It's how you want to see it! | |||
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"A new film on YouTube, produced by Michael Moore. It's one of those films that makes you think that perhaps covid 19 may actually be a good thing for the planet. People are the worst
Agree. And may be good thing for ppl too. It's how you want to see it!"Who can say? | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. Can't disagree but I'm yet to hear about a viable alternative, doesn't mean there isn't one I guess The end of the human race would be a good start. We are a cancer on this planet. We think we can grow and exploit the planet exponentially which is just delusion. But what if we are the only intelligent life in the universe, we could be. Changing how we behave not ending it must be the only option surely But we wont change, that's the problem. " Would take something profound and I don't think this is it, finding other intelligent life would be, finding we are alone would be equally profound but is probably impossible | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. Can't disagree but I'm yet to hear about a viable alternative, doesn't mean there isn't one I guess The end of the human race would be a good start. We are a cancer on this planet. We think we can grow and exploit the planet exponentially which is just delusion. But what if we are the only intelligent life in the universe, we could be. Changing how we behave not ending it must be the only option surely But we wont change, that's the problem. Would take something profound and I don't think this is it, finding other intelligent life would be, finding we are alone would be equally profound but is probably impossible" Probably would be. Perhaps we should be more concerned with our own survival before overpopulation causes everything to collapse? | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. Can't disagree but I'm yet to hear about a viable alternative, doesn't mean there isn't one I guess The end of the human race would be a good start. We are a cancer on this planet. We think we can grow and exploit the planet exponentially which is just delusion." Well arent you just a little ray of sunshine  | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. Can't disagree but I'm yet to hear about a viable alternative, doesn't mean there isn't one I guess The end of the human race would be a good start. We are a cancer on this planet. We think we can grow and exploit the planet exponentially which is just delusion. Well arent you just a little ray of sunshine "Yup. Depression with a healthy dose of misanthropy | |||
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"A new film on YouTube, produced by Michael Moore. It's one of those films that makes you think that perhaps covid 19 may actually be a good thing for the planet. People are the worst
Agree. And may be good thing for ppl too. It's how you want to see it!
Who can say?"Every crisis presents an opportunity by itself. I learned it through the GFC. | |||
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"I will look out for the movie nonetheless so thanks for the heads up on that" No worries buddy, I hope you enjoy it | |||
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"A new film on YouTube, produced by Michael Moore. It's one of those films that makes you think that perhaps covid 19 may actually be a good thing for the planet. People are the worst
Agree. And may be good thing for ppl too. It's how you want to see it!
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Every crisis presents an opportunity by itself. I learned it through the GFC. "But it depends what we do with that opportunity surely? | |||
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"A new film on YouTube, produced by Michael Moore. It's one of those films that makes you think that perhaps covid 19 may actually be a good thing for the planet. People are the worst
Agree. And may be good thing for ppl too. It's how you want to see it!
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Every crisis presents an opportunity by itself. I learned it through the GFC.
But it depends what we do with that opportunity surely?"Yes. It makes a level playing field for many! | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. Can't disagree but I'm yet to hear about a viable alternative, doesn't mean there isn't one I guess The end of the human race would be a good start. We are a cancer on this planet. We think we can grow and exploit the planet exponentially which is just delusion. But what if we are the only intelligent life in the universe, we could be. Changing how we behave not ending it must be the only option surely But we wont change, that's the problem. " Sadly, you are correct | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly." How can you district an abstract concept? Capitalism is real companies and real people. We use GS to purchase companies and right now we are doing more for COVID-19 than some governments. | |||
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"A new film on YouTube, produced by Michael Moore. It's one of those films that makes you think that perhaps covid 19 may actually be a good thing for the planet. People are the worst
Agree. And may be good thing for ppl too. It's how you want to see it!
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Every crisis presents an opportunity by itself. I learned it through the GFC. "That’s very true, in crisis you often see the best of people and companies , been lucky to work for a great global company through both COVID-19 and the Tsunami and got involved in the solutions. | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. How can you district an abstract concept? Capitalism is real companies and real people. We use GS to purchase companies and right now we are doing more for COVID-19 than some governments." Well I'm borderline communist, and I feel that the capitalist system breeds corruption. A company only exists to make money. | |||
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"Watched it last night. It was an eye opener regards renewable and carbon neutral fuels "Makes you sick doesnt it? | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. How can you district an abstract concept? Capitalism is real companies and real people. We use GS to purchase companies and right now we are doing more for COVID-19 than some governments. Well I'm borderline communist, and I feel that the capitalist system breeds corruption. A company only exists to make money." We will need to agree to disagree on that.  | |||
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"Watched it last night. It was an eye opener regards renewable and carbon neutral fuels
Makes you sick doesnt it?"Sickened at how people touted the whole carbon neutral bit but were actually using as much fossil fuels to make their carbon neutral plant and continuing to use them to start the fucker in the mornings. Wild | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. How can you district an abstract concept? Capitalism is real companies and real people. We use GS to purchase companies and right now we are doing more for COVID-19 than some governments. Well I'm borderline communist, and I feel that the capitalist system breeds corruption. A company only exists to make money." I think socialism has some admirable qualities, but when it’s bad communism is just as bad as unchecked capitalism. Capitalism has given us better health, education, housing, fewer wars than ever in history. Every communist experiment to date has failed with disastrous consequences The type of capitalism we need to watch is the US libertarian type that is pursued by the hard brexiteers, have you read The sovereign Individual by Jacob Reece Moggs father ? It shows where that leads to and explains why so much money was put behind Brexit by the rich. | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. How can you district an abstract concept? Capitalism is real companies and real people. We use GS to purchase companies and right now we are doing more for COVID-19 than some governments. Well I'm borderline communist, and I feel that the capitalist system breeds corruption. A company only exists to make money. I think socialism has some admirable qualities, but when it’s bad communism is just as bad as unchecked capitalism. Capitalism has given us better health, education, housing, fewer wars than ever in history. Every communist experiment to date has failed with disastrous consequences The type of capitalism we need to watch is the US libertarian type that is pursued by the hard brexiteers, have you read The sovereign Individual by Jacob Reece Moggs father ? It shows where that leads to and explains why so much money was put behind Brexit by the rich. " What about Cuba? They have all that you described in capitalism accept that it's for everybody regardless. Communism would only work if everybody is involved and are able to share resources, however Cuba has been embargoed by one of the worlds biggest producers of a lot of things. | |||
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"It's an interesting film, but it's really only telling us what we all know; and that is technology in the search for green energy etc cannot fix the basic problem of humans as a species, and that is we don't control population growth. We have no long term hope while population numbers dramatically expand year after year. Sadly as a species we're not prepared to face this fact yet." I agree, it just confirmed what I already thought. | |||
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"We will not destroy the planet, we may destroy the human race. It's a tad arrogant to think that humans are forever. Tell that to the many species that roamed and dominated who have become extinct. Our existence is a blip ...... just a blip" We wont destroy it, but we will change it beyond recognition. We are currently living in the anthropocene period, a period defined by our impact on the planet. | |||
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"I'm gonna watch this today "Do it! You wont regret it. | |||
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"We will not destroy the planet, we may destroy the human race. It's a tad arrogant to think that humans are forever. Tell that to the many species that roamed and dominated who have become extinct. Our existence is a blip ...... just a blip We wont destroy it, but we will change it beyond recognition. We are currently living in the anthropocene period, a period defined by our impact on the planet." Humans born hundreds of years in the future will recognise and utilise the world they are born into. We weren't born unable to cope because city planners had stopped providing caves n camp fires or asking where all the wild boar had gone. | |||
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"We will not destroy the planet, we may destroy the human race. It's a tad arrogant to think that humans are forever. Tell that to the many species that roamed and dominated who have become extinct. Our existence is a blip ...... just a blip We wont destroy it, but we will change it beyond recognition. We are currently living in the anthropocene period, a period defined by our impact on the planet. Humans born hundreds of years in the future will recognise and utilise the world they are born into. We weren't born unable to cope because city planners had stopped providing caves n camp fires or asking where all the wild boar had gone. " You are right of course GC, however there is one big fundamental difference. The worlds population has exploded within the past 100 years, way beyond the planets actual capacity and it's all because of petroleum. When that's gone we are well and truely fucked! | |||
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"Maybe if we introduce carousel as in Logan's Run and we are all 're-born' at thirty then there will be room for us all
Or maybe a bit of soylent green is in order. "Sounds like a plan to me | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. How can you district an abstract concept? Capitalism is real companies and real people. We use GS to purchase companies and right now we are doing more for COVID-19 than some governments. Well I'm borderline communist, and I feel that the capitalist system breeds corruption. A company only exists to make money. I think socialism has some admirable qualities, but when it’s bad communism is just as bad as unchecked capitalism. Capitalism has given us better health, education, housing, fewer wars than ever in history. Every communist experiment to date has failed with disastrous consequences The type of capitalism we need to watch is the US libertarian type that is pursued by the hard brexiteers, have you read The sovereign Individual by Jacob Reece Moggs father ? It shows where that leads to and explains why so much money was put behind Brexit by the rich. What about Cuba? They have all that you described in capitalism accept that it's for everybody regardless. Communism would only work if everybody is involved and are able to share resources, however Cuba has been embargoed by one of the worlds biggest producers of a lot of things." Cuba is a country I have water to visit for a long time and hope to soon before it changes too much. I’m not an expert on these things, I know they have great healthcare though and our own NHS has looked to it for good practice. Opponents will tell you about the lack markets in Cuba, the poor conditions and corruption of the elite the things we don’t see but I would expect also the lack of opportunities and innovation , a system that prevents people having aspirations and dreams maybe for the sake of stability - like a utilitarian approach , it’s not someone I believe is good for the spirit or humanity in general !! | |||
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"I worked for Goldman Sachs strictly speaking they are not investors their clients are, there are worse companies out there. Of that I'm very much aware. I distrust capitalism greatly. How can you district an abstract concept? Capitalism is real companies and real people. We use GS to purchase companies and right now we are doing more for COVID-19 than some governments. Well I'm borderline communist, and I feel that the capitalist system breeds corruption. A company only exists to make money. I think socialism has some admirable qualities, but when it’s bad communism is just as bad as unchecked capitalism. Capitalism has given us better health, education, housing, fewer wars than ever in history. Every communist experiment to date has failed with disastrous consequences The type of capitalism we need to watch is the US libertarian type that is pursued by the hard brexiteers, have you read The sovereign Individual by Jacob Reece Moggs father ? It shows where that leads to and explains why so much money was put behind Brexit by the rich. What about Cuba? They have all that you described in capitalism accept that it's for everybody regardless. Communism would only work if everybody is involved and are able to share resources, however Cuba has been embargoed by one of the worlds biggest producers of a lot of things. Cuba is a country I have water to visit for a long time and hope to soon before it changes too much. I’m not an expert on these things, I know they have great healthcare though and our own NHS has looked to it for good practice. Opponents will tell you about the lack markets in Cuba, the poor conditions and corruption of the elite the things we don’t see but I would expect also the lack of opportunities and innovation , a system that prevents people having aspirations and dreams maybe for the sake of stability - like a utilitarian approach , it’s not someone I believe is good for the spirit or humanity in general !!" That's fair enough, cant really argue with that | |||
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"Easter Island was full of forest and the wild life that dwelt there, the people that lived there realised that there De-forestation was drastically affecting there environment and there means to survive...... But someone still cut down the last Tree ?.. We are a destructive species mefinx " Agreed, the Danish stripped Iceland of its few trees too | |||
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"Easter Island was full of forest and the wild life that dwelt there, the people that lived there realised that there De-forestation was drastically affecting there environment and there means to survive...... But someone still cut down the last Tree ?.. We are a destructive species mefinx Agreed, the Danish stripped Iceland of its few trees too" ..To build the best longship in the world. ...... Probably | |||
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"Easter Island was full of forest and the wild life that dwelt there, the people that lived there realised that there De-forestation was drastically affecting there environment and there means to survive...... But someone still cut down the last Tree ?.. We are a destructive species mefinx Agreed, the Danish stripped Iceland of its few trees too..To build the best longship in the world. ...... Probably "Bingo! | |||
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"Maybe if we introduce carousel as in Logan's Run and we are all 're-born' at thirty then there will be room for us all
Or maybe a bit of soylent green is in order.
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"You can watch it at planetofthehumans.com" i definitely will watch,thanks...  | |||
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"You can watch it at planetofthehumans.com i definitely will watch,thanks... "No worries | |||
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"Problem with humans is that it takes being hit in the face with a mighty shovel before he stops and thinks. Oppenheimer with the atomic bomb..creates it, watches it then utters the word " DOH" hyperthetically obviously..but too bloody late..it has changed the future...then we think hell yeah..it ll make a great fuel source, lets do it...DOH, 3 mile island, Chernobyl and Japan and still we pursue it without any true emergency plan to hand. We are not the master species we believe ourselves to be..we are just another species..only problem is we lack respect for other species. May watch it today but I may get tetchy. "For a few maybe but the vast majority wouldnt lift a finger. It's not just that but we have the arrogance to think that the planet is ours to exploit. | |||
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"Problem with humans is that it takes being hit in the face with a mighty shovel before he stops and thinks. Oppenheimer with the atomic bomb..creates it, watches it then utters the word " DOH" hyperthetically obviously..but too bloody late..it has changed the future...then we think hell yeah..it ll make a great fuel source, lets do it...DOH, 3 mile island, Chernobyl and Japan and still we pursue it without any true emergency plan to hand. We are not the master species we believe ourselves to be..we are just another species..only problem is we lack respect for other species. May watch it today but I may get tetchy.
For a few maybe but the vast majority wouldnt lift a finger. It's not just that but we have the arrogance to think that the planet is ours to exploit."I agree..we think we can take without giving but one day.... Crazy thing is how vulnerable we are. Look at how modern society is so reliant on something as minor as wifi etc and electricity..imagine if we lost either..I d be fine but everything would come to a standstill. Or takeaway fuel as we know it. The government had all the heads of government, emergency services, business and finance put together a paper on what if the power grid went down. A mate was on the committee as a member of the atomic decommissioning department. The final report was civil war after only a week or so, the final straw being the government seizing all fuel. The police said looting and crime would rapidly rise calling for a curfew in three days. All hypothetical but... | |||
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"Problem with humans is that it takes being hit in the face with a mighty shovel before he stops and thinks. Oppenheimer with the atomic bomb..creates it, watches it then utters the word " DOH" hyperthetically obviously..but too bloody late..it has changed the future...then we think hell yeah..it ll make a great fuel source, lets do it...DOH, 3 mile island, Chernobyl and Japan and still we pursue it without any true emergency plan to hand. We are not the master species we believe ourselves to be..we are just another species..only problem is we lack respect for other species. May watch it today but I may get tetchy.
For a few maybe but the vast majority wouldnt lift a finger. It's not just that but we have the arrogance to think that the planet is ours to exploit.
I agree..we think we can take without giving but one day....
Crazy thing is how vulnerable we are. Look at how modern society is so reliant on something as minor as wifi etc and electricity..imagine if we lost either..I d be fine but everything would come to a standstill. Or takeaway fuel as we know it. The government had all the heads of government, emergency services, business and finance put together a paper on what if the power grid went down. A mate was on the committee as a member of the atomic decommissioning department. The final report was civil war after only a week or so, the final straw being the government seizing all fuel. The police said looting and crime would rapidly rise calling for a curfew in three days. All hypothetical but..."Its shocking to think how dependant we are on fossil fuels, specifically petroleum. The only reason the world population is as high as it is is due to fertiliser derived from gas and oil. When that's gone we will be fucked! | |||
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"When the last tree is cut, the last fish is caught, and the last river is polluted; when to breathe the air is sickening, you will realize, too late, that wealth is not in bank accounts and that you can’t eat money... A Cree proverb.....
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"When the last tree is cut, the last fish is caught, and the last river is polluted; when to breathe the air is sickening, you will realize, too late, that wealth is not in bank accounts and that you can’t eat money... A Cree proverb.....
"And what happened to the Cree? Pushed into a tiny reserve I'm guessing, if they weren't wiped out entirely. | |||
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"When the last tree is cut, the last fish is caught, and the last river is polluted; when to breathe the air is sickening, you will realize, too late, that wealth is not in bank accounts and that you can’t eat money... A Cree proverb.....
And what happened to the Cree? Pushed into a tiny reserve I'm guessing, if they weren't wiped out entirely."one of the few people that still prosper thankfully.... The Canadians had a better approach than the USA | |||
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