FabSwingers.com forum: Graveyard etiquette

By *oodnitegirl OP Woman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

In Tonight’s edition of ‘what’s GG been reading on Facebook’

People intentionally standing on graves. It’s up there in my top 5 pet hates. It makes me MADDDDDD.

Let’s debate....

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I was always taught to walk around the edge of the graves, yes.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes they're so tightly packed together in places it's hard to get across. Sounds weird but I apologise if I walk over one.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"In Tonight’s edition of ‘what’s GG been reading on Facebook’

People intentionally standing on graves. It’s up there in my top 5 pet hates. It makes me MADDDDDD.

Let’s debate....

They are dead

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

Very disrespectful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was always taught to walk around the edge of the graves, yes..... "

Same here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Awful.

I go to my local cemetery a lot. Always made it very clear to kids its disrespectful. Saying that I sat on the edge of the grave in a local churchyard.. it's like a lunching spot for people who work at adjacent area. But always say a little prayer in my head.

As a side note..Currently a friend of mine has been awarded access to a cemetery chapel to change into a sort of arty centre/community spot.. which I find very refreshing. Also.. Is it Denmark where people picnic in cemeteries? Or is that an internet bluff.

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By * Lexi xWoman
over a year ago

stockport

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

Agree, you walk around the edge of them, disrespectful to walk over them

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

If at all possible I don't go into graveyards. The thought of bodies in wooden boxes freaks me out.

Apart from family funerals I avoid them like the plague.

I want to be burnt. No formal funeral. No big expense.

I'll be dead. People can remember me if they want without the need for any ceremony.

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By * Lexi xWoman
over a year ago

stockport

I don’t ever really go to them. But I’d walk round one if I had too.

I’ve kept my dads ashes at home so I sit with him every night. Don’t like the thought of him buried anywhere

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By *ily WhiteWoman
over a year ago

Always walk around them, I was taught that standing on them was disrespectful from an early age

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I maintain a church graveyard..they are tightly packed but I do my best not to walk on them whilst working...mines nothing to do with christianity, just respect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always walk round out of respect

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Very disrespectful

See here is the point

I absolutely would not do it intentionally

If I had children I would articulate why they should not either

However let us not gallop upon a high White Horse so proudly

Every day we tread upon the bodies of dead humans

We build houses on them we have sex on them

Dead bodies are beneath us everwhere just not marked within an area or with a stone

Drinking water ? Chances are it comes from a reservoir that had a grave yard think they removed ALL the bodies?

So as per usual the so called respect is one for show

It genuinely is abhorrent to walk across a grave if you can be seen it's a non event if you're not

A grave contains bones at best carbon and calcium its it's becoming ground

At time x it's a grave at time x plus y its ground

If I saw another walk across or fuck on a grave my personal moral compass would not be one of condemnation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sometimes they're so tightly packed together in places it's hard to get across. Sounds weird but I apologise if I walk over one."
Sometimes they are so tightly packed. I do too say an embarrassed inward sorry on the rare occasions I have.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

"Sometimes they're so tightly packed together in places it's hard to get across. Sounds weird but I apologise if I walk over one."

Me too.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I used to enjoy going in to grave yards, looking at the ornate statues, the graves where a whole family is buried.

Also admiring how old some of the head stones are, the sadness of seeing a person who didn't have long to enjoy their life.

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

It’s my number 1 pet hate. It’s totally disrespectful and I always pull people up for doing it. There’s always enough room to navigate around the plots in a cemetery and no need to walk over them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to enjoy going in to grave yards, looking at the ornate statues, the graves where a whole family is buried.

Also admiring how old some of the head stones are, the sadness of seeing a person who didn't have long to enjoy their life."

Hope you went in the witching hour...very eerie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was always brought up to respect graveyards and walk around where possible.

I remember commenting on a post years ago to this affect where people were having graveyard sex and couldn’t see an issue with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Tonight’s edition of ‘what’s GG been reading on Facebook’

People intentionally standing on graves. It’s up there in my top 5 pet hates. It makes me MADDDDDD.

Let’s debate....

Hate it!! Hate seeing some of the images that the alt community put out in magazines. Have done a few graveyard shoots and have made it very clear to the photographer that I won’t be disrespecting anyone by standing or posing on their grave.

If I did something like that my nanna would come up out of hers and clout me one! A little fiery Irish pissed off ghost is not what anyone wants coming at them, haha x Viv x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're dead

They don't care

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham

"Sometimes they're so tightly packed together in places it's hard to get across. Sounds weird but I apologise if I walk over one."

This is me too.

Jo.Xx

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

I stay away from graveyards..since the court order..

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"It’s my number 1 pet hate. It’s totally disrespectful and I always pull people up for doing it. There’s always enough room to navigate around the plots in a cemetery and no need to walk over them. "

Always pull people up, made me smile.......

For more than one reason

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

We probably frequently walk over graves without being aware. I'd never do it deliberately though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone who lives in a home surrounded by graves it is surprising how disgustingly disrespectful some people can be. It's a sign of the times and the gradual decline of decency I'm afraid.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

"In Tonight’s edition of ‘what’s GG been reading on Facebook’

People intentionally standing on graves. It’s up there in my top 5 pet hates. It makes me MADDDDDD.

Let’s debate....

I work in a grave yard I know whats that like.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"As someone who lives in a home surrounded by graves it is surprising how disgustingly disrespectful some people can be. It's a sign of the times and the gradual decline of decency I'm afraid.

Can I question

Is it

A, only disrespectful if you realise a body is there

B. Is it disrespectful if you think a body is but there is none

C . Absolutely no one else knows and zero damage caused

????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As someone who lives in a home surrounded by graves it is surprising how disgustingly disrespectful some people can be. It's a sign of the times and the gradual decline of decency I'm afraid.

Can I question

Is it

A, only disrespectful if you realise a body is there

B. Is it disrespectful if you think a body is but there is none

C . Absolutely no one else knows and zero damage caused

????"

Walking on graves if you know they are there but just don't care is disrespectful in my option. There are people who tend graves and memorials and they do get trampled. Other behaviours here include pushing gravestones over, groups of people taking drugs and drinking and general anti social behaviour. So I stand by my comment that it's surprising how disgustingly disrespectful some people can be.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I avoid it where possible. It isn't always.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

"As someone who lives in a home surrounded by graves it is surprising how disgustingly disrespectful some people can be. It's a sign of the times and the gradual decline of decency I'm afraid.

Can I question

Is it

A, only disrespectful if you realise a body is there

B. Is it disrespectful if you think a body is but there is none

C . Absolutely no one else knows and zero damage caused

????

Totally agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They're dead

They don't care"

The people they leave behind do care.

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By *LFB.Woman
over a year ago

Farnborough.

I apologise if i walk on a grave, but I do like graveyards I like to see if i can find the oldest grave, think im a bit strange.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"As someone who lives in a home surrounded by graves it is surprising how disgustingly disrespectful some people can be. It's a sign of the times and the gradual decline of decency I'm afraid.

Can I question

Is it

A, only disrespectful if you realise a body is there

B. Is it disrespectful if you think a body is but there is none

C . Absolutely no one else knows and zero damage caused

????

Totally agree"

I was being philosophical

I covered the anti social and damage aspects

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"They're dead

They don't care

The people they leave behind do care."

Indeed they do

As I queried (please note above I dont nor advocate)

Is it disrespectful if done without witness or damage ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it’s possible to walk around them I will. Sometimes it’s not. Just like sometimes it’s not possible to give people plenty of space on the tube.

I imagine that some people may stand on my loved ones graves whilst walking though. And I’m sure my loved ones, if they were still here, would not mind at all.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"I apologise if i walk on a grave, but I do like graveyards I like to see if i can find the oldest grave, think im a bit strange.

Well I am too then

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"I apologise if i walk on a grave, but I do like graveyards I like to see if i can find the oldest grave, think im a bit strange.

Well I am too then

and I’ll then try and find out something about them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They're dead

They don't care

The people they leave behind do care.

Indeed they do

As I queried (please note above I dont nor advocate)

Is it disrespectful if done without witness or damage ?"

Personally I think it’s disrespectful if done with knowledge as in obvious graves.

However, overall in graveyards there are a lot of unmarked graves so tread carefully and / or avoid walking over the grassy areas.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Wouldn't dream of deliberately walking on a grave - is incredibly disrespectful but I do find them very interesting - went on a tour of Highgate cemetery once into the locked part that you can only view as part of a tour or a family member. Was fascinating and not the slightest bit ghoulish.

Bury St Edmund's has a really good one too that they have deliberately allowed to become overgrown and again have spent many an hour idling in there reading the gravestones.

They're veritable points of historical interest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wouldn't dream of deliberately walking on a grave - is incredibly disrespectful but I do find them very interesting - went on a tour of Highgate cemetery once into the locked part that you can only view as part of a tour or a family member. Was fascinating and not the slightest bit ghoulish.

Bury St Edmund's has a really good one too that they have deliberately allowed to become overgrown and again have spent many an hour idling in there reading the gravestones.

They're veritable points of historical interest "

Highgate Cemetery is fascinating.

It’s all about perspective & being respectful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They're dead

They don't care

The people they leave behind do care."

Dont get me wrong, if someone walked on one of my families graves I'd go crazy, but that's only because I knew about it.

If someone walks on a grave and no one sees, no one cares

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By *abonWoman
over a year ago

L’boro/Ashby & Cheltenham

I got told from a young age that when you felt a shiver go down your spine, it was someone walking on my grave...now I think about it, not great!! I never walked over one, because I didn’t want ‘them’ to feel shivers! And if I ever slipped and my foot touched one...omg the fear! Thought I’d be haunted forever!!

Don’t you love a religious upbringing!!

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By *LFB.Woman
over a year ago

Farnborough.

"I apologise if i walk on a grave, but I do like graveyards I like to see if i can find the oldest grave, think im a bit strange.

Well I am too then

and I’ll then try and find out something about them "

I do as well, its fascinating what you can find.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I apologise if i walk on a grave, but I do like graveyards I like to see if i can find the oldest grave, think im a bit strange.

Well I am too then

and I’ll then try and find out something about them

I do as well, its fascinating what you can find."

I once pulled up next to a graveyard to go to the shop opposite. Looked in and the first headstone i saw had the same name as me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They're dead

They don't care

The people they leave behind do care.

Dont get me wrong, if someone walked on one of my families graves I'd go crazy, but that's only because I knew about it.

If someone walks on a grave and no one sees, no one cares "

Could be said for a lot of things - out of sight out of mind.

It’s not that they don’t care they just don’t know.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"I apologise if i walk on a grave, but I do like graveyards I like to see if i can find the oldest grave, think im a bit strange.

Well I am too then

and I’ll then try and find out something about them

I do as well, its fascinating what you can find."

It definitely is

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Even if its just to prevent damaging plants that may be sprouting up, it's respectful to keep off a place that has. Significance to others.

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By *nmgCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

Always try my best to avoid the graves, however sometimes it is almost impossible.

Like a few have said, it's a mark of respect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They're dead

They don't care

The people they leave behind do care.

Dont get me wrong, if someone walked on one of my families graves I'd go crazy, but that's only because I knew about it.

If someone walks on a grave and no one sees, no one cares

Could be said for a lot of things - out of sight out of mind.

It’s not that they don’t care they just don’t know."

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem

It's all perspective, in China the body is dug up and cremated after a short period of time. The plot they purchase isn't long term. Many of the graveyards are at max capacity and resorted to burying them standing up or stacked.

Here if bodies were dug up and forcibly cremated in a year or two there would be riots.

In the UK a plot is owned for a maximum of 75 years on a single lease, lease can vary from 25 years to 75 years. It has to be repurchased in order to keep it. They cannot be sold with a 100 year lease, but families can renew the lease for family plots.

Every grave over 100years old that isn't currently leased can legally be used by another.

So does that give you insight?

Touching headstones and momentos is disrespectful but councils remove them all the time and fell headstones they deem unsafe whether they were actually unsafe or not.

A person's body buried can vary in depth 10ft to 6 ft down depending on how many are expected to be buried in a family plot.

People getting embalmed delaying natural decomposition means it's likely that when graves are reused the bodies need to be disposed of that resided there.

So if people are so offended by people walking on a grave yet as seen in the comments having lunch sat on them... touching them... but walking on them is so wrong?!?

When I die turn me into a tree with the one of many ways to eco bury people now or cremate me don't need my body decomposing taking up space.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's all perspective, in China the body is dug up and cremated after a short period of time. The plot they purchase isn't long term. Many of the graveyards are at max capacity and resorted to burying them standing up or stacked.

Here if bodies were dug up and forcibly cremated in a year or two there would be riots.

Every grave over 100years old that isn't currently leased can legally be used by another.

So does that give you insight?

Touching headstones and momentos is disrespectful but councils remove them all the time and fell headstones they deem unsafe whether they were actually unsafe or not.

A person's body buried can vary in depth 10ft to 6 ft down depending on how many are expected to be buried in a family plot.

People getting embalmed delaying natural decomposition means it's likely that when graves are reused the bodies need to be disposed of that resided there.

So if people are so offended by people walking on a grave yet as seen in the comments having lunch sat on them... touching them... but walking on them is so wrong?!?

When I die turn me into a tree with the one of many ways to eco bury people now or cremate me don't need my body decomposing taking up space."

So some of our families graves could have another body buried on them in time.

In that case I'm surprised there are still so many old head stones around.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Never stand on a grave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You won't see a photo of me standing on a grave.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"You won't see a photo of me standing on a grave.

Rebel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You won't see a photo of me standing on a grave.

Rebel"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is how I see it...yes we walk over the dead, build over the dead..half the time we don't know it but for me it is not the dead as such I am paying my respect to..they are long gone, what's left is their shell that housed the person..BUT that grave, that spot, that is someone's sacred spot, someone alive and kicking, someone with feelings and someone that loved and feels connected with the deceased through that spot. It is a sacred place to someone..and that is my respect. To me stepping on a grave is like using someone's granny's urn as an ash tray, it's like graffiti on a memorial stone to the wars...these are old ways that are being forgotten as in they re known but not the reasons behind so they re cast out as ridiculous...no, this isn't ridiculous, this is respecting a living persons connection to those that passed before and this goes back many many centuries.

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By *essie.Woman
over a year ago

Serendipity

I don’t ever do it.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish

I love graveyards, ironically I find them full of life.....love reading the headstones about all these peoples lives who are no longer with us. Don't step on graves tho, thats just wrong.

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By *ecky and justCouple
over a year ago

Godalming

In some places in the world, the burial process is so completely alien to us.

In Egypt for example there is a monastery in the desert. The sand is not easy to dig deep enough for a body as it’s on rock and forever shifting. The practice there is to bury the body in a shallow grave until it’s decomposed and then the bones are taken and placed in storage in a large chamber.

Wealthy or more respected religious figures would have their bones kept together whereas the general population of the monastery would have their bones put with all the others.

Leg bones in one pile, skulls in another etc.

It’s quite the eery place to visit...

St Katherines Monastery, Egypt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In some places in the world, the burial process is so completely alien to us.

Wealthy or more respected religious figures would have their bones kept together whereas the general population of the monastery would have their bones put with all the others.

Leg bones in one pile, skulls in another etc.

It’s quite the eery place to visit...

St Katherines Monastery, Egypt.

I do love the aspects of other cultures..always loved the practise of the Mongols and would love it for myself tbh. They would carry their dead to the top of mountain and leave it to be picked over by the vultures and then the sun bleached bones would be gathered up. For me that is the one that su it's me..my love of mountains and me giving nourishment to the natural world. I watched the ceremonial pyres in Kathmandu. .to the western eyes it maybe unusual..especially since the hospital for the terminally I'll had a ramp right next to the places of burning. Here those on the brink of death could be laid it with their feet in the sacred river and watch the ceremonies of those that had gone before. Once the pyre is finished, the remains are swept into the river to be carried away.

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By *ecky and justCouple
over a year ago

Godalming

"In some places in the world, the burial process is so completely alien to us.

Wealthy or more respected religious figures would have their bones kept together whereas the general population of the monastery would have their bones put with all the others.

Leg bones in one pile, skulls in another etc.

It’s quite the eery place to visit...

St Katherines Monastery, Egypt.

Exactly, the world is a an amazingly varied place.

I photographed a ‘natural’ burial site a few years back.

You could elect to be buried in a compostable box in a field and a tree would be planted over you, eventually your remains becoming the tree.

Sounds a nice way to go.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"In some places in the world, the burial process is so completely alien to us.

Wealthy or more respected religious figures would have their bones kept together whereas the general population of the monastery would have their bones put with all the others.

Leg bones in one pile, skulls in another etc.

It’s quite the eery place to visit...

St Katherines Monastery, Egypt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In some places in the world, the burial process is so completely alien to us.

Wealthy or more respected religious figures would have their bones kept together whereas the general population of the monastery would have their bones put with all the others.

Leg bones in one pile, skulls in another etc.

It’s quite the eery place to visit...

St Katherines Monastery, Egypt.

Exactly, the world is a an amazingly varied place.

I photographed a ‘natural’ burial site a few years back.

You could elect to be buried in a compostable box in a field and a tree would be planted over you, eventually your remains becoming the tree.

Sounds a nice way to go.

I'm hoping whoever is responsible for my ashes takes them to my big very old tree and places them at her roots..my thank you to all the beautiful hours I ve spent sat within her higher canopy sorting out my issues...she's my place of power.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was always taught to walk around them. Its respectful. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Tonight’s edition of ‘what’s GG been reading on Facebook’

People intentionally standing on graves. It’s up there in my top 5 pet hates. It makes me MADDDDDD.

Let’s debate....

I agree with you on this. I find it very disrespectful. Although I have stood inside Robin Hood's grave. It's not too far away from us. I'll take you sometime

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"I was always taught to walk around the edge of the graves, yes..... "

So was I. I was always taught it was disrespectful to walk over a grave or stand on it.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"In Tonight’s edition of ‘what’s GG been reading on Facebook’

People intentionally standing on graves. It’s up there in my top 5 pet hates. It makes me MADDDDDD.

Let’s debate....

There are 1 or 2 people’s graves I would happily dance on.

But as a principle then no, I try to avoid disrespecting the deceased.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Tonight’s edition of ‘what’s GG been reading on Facebook’

People intentionally standing on graves. It’s up there in my top 5 pet hates. It makes me MADDDDDD.

Let’s debate....

I agree with you on this. I find it very disrespectful. Although I have stood inside Robin Hood's grave. It's not too far away from us. I'll take you sometime

Where's Robin Hood's grave?

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"In some places in the world, the burial process is so completely alien to us.

Wealthy or more respected religious figures would have their bones kept together whereas the general population of the monastery would have their bones put with all the others.

Leg bones in one pile, skulls in another etc.

It’s quite the eery place to visit...

St Katherines Monastery, Egypt.

Exactly, the world is a an amazingly varied place.

I photographed a ‘natural’ burial site a few years back.

You could elect to be buried in a compostable box in a field and a tree would be planted over you, eventually your remains becoming the tree.

Sounds a nice way to go.

My body is pledged for parts and to Leicester university anatomy with nothing returned and no funeral xx

If anyone in the future want or needs to reflect upon my time here they know to go to places of water,sea , Woodlands or mountains

Regard and walk over as much as they can

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over a year ago

"In some places in the world, the burial process is so completely alien to us.

Wealthy or more respected religious figures would have their bones kept together whereas the general population of the monastery would have their bones put with all the others.

Leg bones in one pile, skulls in another etc.

It’s quite the eery place to visit...

St Katherines Monastery, Egypt.

Exactly, the world is a an amazingly varied place.

I photographed a ‘natural’ burial site a few years back.

You could elect to be buried in a compostable box in a field and a tree would be planted over you, eventually your remains becoming the tree.

Sounds a nice way to go.

My body is pledged for parts and to Leicester university anatomy with nothing returned and no funeral xx

If anyone in the future want or needs to reflect upon my time here they know to go to places of water,sea , Woodlands or mountains

Regard and walk over as much as they can

Am similar..straight to the flames and gone..absolutely no one, but then all I have is my gf and either she ll know where to find and connect or she ll be dancing the merry dance of release..

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By *loudF7Man
over a year ago

South East

I'm not overly superstitious, but standing on graves, cutting through a cemetery for a shortcut and and 'fun' in a graveyard is something I'm very much against,

Maybe watching the thriller video when I was younger made me wary

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

Don’t walk on graves, it’s an insensitive thing to do.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"I apologise if i walk on a grave, but I do like graveyards I like to see if i can find the oldest grave, think im a bit strange.

I did the same thing as well.

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over a year ago

When I found out my older sister is buried in a paupers grave, I have been fascinated by them more.

The baby lived less than 24hrs, my parents couldn't afford a proper burial.

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"In some places in the world, the burial process is so completely alien to us.

Wealthy or more respected religious figures would have their bones kept together whereas the general population of the monastery would have their bones put with all the others.

Leg bones in one pile, skulls in another etc.

It’s quite the eery place to visit...

St Katherines Monastery, Egypt.

Exactly, the world is a an amazingly varied place.

I photographed a ‘natural’ burial site a few years back.

You could elect to be buried in a compostable box in a field and a tree would be planted over you, eventually your remains becoming the tree.

Sounds a nice way to go.

My dad is buried in a natural burial ground. There are no grave stones or anything to mark where anyone is buried, they even graze sheep on there. You can’t leave flowers on the grave but there is a small memorial where the names of those buried are to leave them.

It’s one of the most beautiful places a large field at the top of a hill with a huge oak tree in the centre, wild flowers and amazing views.

It’s peaceful, serene and a quite magical place.

I thought my mum was barking when she suggested it but after seeing the place completely changed my mind. Now mum has a plot too.

I too was taught it’s disrespectful to walk on graves but I had to walk over other graves to attend his burial as you can’t see where they are so soon got passed that. Now I think it’s that old fashioned nonsense that tells us all we can’t, they are dead they don’t care so why should we?

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