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"smoking if that was your child on the adverts ( anyone who aint seen them, there's children sat there asking there parents to stop smoking cuz they dont wanna see em die ) " Never smoked, its a filthy habit. My daughter asks her nana most weeks to give up but nanna is 76, smoked 3 per day since she was 17 so if its gonna kill her young, it's a bit late, if you get my meanin xx | |||
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"i seem to remember seeing either in the press or on tv sometime ago, that a chemist did a study on tabbacco and why it's adictive, and found that tobbacco in it's pure form isn't as it contains nothing that could lead to an addiction, but refined tobbacco as used in cigarette's on sale has so many additives in it that some combine to make a substance that is addictive, so are cigarette companie's deliberately selling a known drug under licence by all goverment's ??? and if so why don't smoker's get the same help that drug addict's recieve ? " There's a massive ongoing NHS support setup for quitting smoking isn't there? And yes, cigarette companies deliberately added addictive chemicals to fags for many years. | |||
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"there is a suppoert system set up within the NHS but it doesn't recieve half the funding that drug addition recieves " why should it ? | |||
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"i seem to remember seeing either in the press or on tv sometime ago, that a chemist did a study on tabbacco and why it's adictive, and found that tobbacco in it's pure form isn't as it contains nothing that could lead to an addiction, but refined tobbacco as used in cigarette's on sale has so many additives in it that some combine to make a substance that is addictive, so are cigarette companie's deliberately selling a known drug under licence by all goverment's ??? and if so why don't smoker's get the same help that drug addict's recieve ? There's a massive ongoing NHS support setup for quitting smoking isn't there? And yes, cigarette companies deliberately added addictive chemicals to fags for many years. " Over 4000 chemicals to each ciggie. In order for it to be addictive. Normal tobabcco is not addictive. | |||
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"i seem to remember seeing either in the press or on tv sometime ago, that a chemist did a study on tabbacco and why it's adictive, and found that tobbacco in it's pure form isn't as it contains nothing that could lead to an addiction, but refined tobbacco as used in cigarette's on sale has so many additives in it that some combine to make a substance that is addictive, so are cigarette companie's deliberately selling a known drug under licence by all goverment's ??? and if so why don't smoker's get the same help that drug addict's recieve ? There's a massive ongoing NHS support setup for quitting smoking isn't there? And yes, cigarette companies deliberately added addictive chemicals to fags for many years. Over 4000 chemicals to each ciggie. In order for it to be addictive. Normal tobabcco is not addictive. " knew my rollies were better they dont have all the other stuff put in them, whish is there to keep them lit | |||
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"there is a suppoert system set up within the NHS but it doesn't recieve half the funding that drug addition recieves why should it ?" Quite right, I'm fat, no NHS offer to pay my weightwatchers group here (if I was going that is) I'm fat, not ill. | |||
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"day 3 and still no fag, 1000 packet of polo's though lol but why do i seem to have a cough that i can't get rid of ? all the time i was smoking i never really had a cough " If it spreads to you fingers your gonna be stuffed eh lol.. The coughing is your body getting rid of the crud.. after 3 days your now clear of the nicotine.. so now when you go and have one its just plain lack of willpower.. | |||
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"I dont want to stop smoking it is legal so why shouldn't I smoke. Obesity costs the government more than health problems caused by smoking. Alcohol abuse costs the government morethan healt problems caused by smoking. I neither drink to excess (a bottle of bacardi a month mostly over 2 months) nor am I obese. Non-smokers now have the law they wanted to give them non-smoking public places, isn't it about time they found something else to moan about your becoming so tiresome with your anti smoker droning." Don't think anyone was saying you couldn't smoke, no one called you fat... no one said you over drink... So, who is droning on again?? | |||
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"I dont want to stop smoking it is legal so why shouldn't I smoke. Obesity costs the government more than health problems caused by smoking. Alcohol abuse costs the government morethan healt problems caused by smoking. I neither drink to excess (a bottle of bacardi a month mostly over 2 months) nor am I obese. Non-smokers now have the law they wanted to give them non-smoking public places, isn't it about time they found something else to moan about your becoming so tiresome with your anti smoker droning. Don't think anyone was saying you couldn't smoke, no one called you fat... no one said you over drink... So, who is droning on again?? " god i need a fag now | |||
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"I dont want to stop smoking it is legal so why shouldn't I smoke. Obesity costs the government more than health problems caused by smoking. Alcohol abuse costs the government morethan healt problems caused by smoking. I neither drink to excess (a bottle of bacardi a month mostly over 2 months) nor am I obese. Non-smokers now have the law they wanted to give them non-smoking public places, isn't it about time they found something else to moan about your becoming so tiresome with your anti smoker droning. Don't think anyone was saying you couldn't smoke, no one called you fat... no one said you over drink... So, who is droning on again?? god i need a fag now " Breaking strain of a wet kit kat | |||
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"I dont want to stop smoking it is legal so why shouldn't I smoke. Obesity costs the government more than health problems caused by smoking. Alcohol abuse costs the government morethan healt problems caused by smoking. I neither drink to excess (a bottle of bacardi a month mostly over 2 months) nor am I obese. Non-smokers now have the law they wanted to give them non-smoking public places, isn't it about time they found something else to moan about your becoming so tiresome with your anti smoker droning. Don't think anyone was saying you couldn't smoke, no one called you fat... no one said you over drink... So, who is droning on again?? " This very threads existance verifies what I have said along with some of the comments here, for instance "it's a filthy habit" is there a thread about over indulgence in alcohol ? is there a thread about the problems of obesity ? is there a thread about the problems to the public caused by the chewing (and discarding) of gum ? ...... I dont think so | |||
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"Read the research, you are not enjoying it. What your body is actually saying to you is thank you for avoiding the 100% inevitable pain and suffering that it's going to endure from being separated from this addictive substance. It's a very long way from enjoyment, in fact it's likened more to a feeling of absolute relief, in the same manner that a junkie gets from their fix " Yep its addictive, I know that same as any other smoker, there has been times in the past I wish I never of started but currently I do actually enjoy it. No intention of packing up and as I have a draw full of tobacco not going to run out and feel the affects of withdrawal Even though I smoke, I have a fairly healthy life style, I don't drink, I exorcize, I eat a healthy diet ... so have to do something bad Tony | |||
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"Read the research, you are not enjoying it. What your body is actually saying to you is thank you for avoiding the 100% inevitable pain and suffering that it's going to endure from being separated from this addictive substance. It's a very long way from enjoyment, in fact it's likened more to a feeling of absolute relief, in the same manner that a junkie gets from their fix Yep its addictive, I know that same as any other smoker, there has been times in the past I wish I never of started but currently I do actually enjoy it. No intention of packing up and as I have a draw full of tobacco not going to run out and feel the affects of withdrawal Even though I smoke, I have a fairly healthy life style, I don't drink, I exorcize, I eat a healthy diet ... so have to do something bad Tony " Tony, Not for me to criticise how you live your life, that was not my intention. All I was doing, pedant that I am, was pointing out what research thinks with regard to enjoyment. As you and Ged both say we all have our weakness's so rather than a big falling out best we all do the agree to disagree thing | |||
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"Tony, Not for me to criticise how you live your life, that was not my intention. All I was doing, pedant that I am, was pointing out what research thinks with regard to enjoyment. As you and Ged both say we all have our weakness's so rather than a big falling out best we all do the agree to disagree thing " I never fall out with anyone especially over such a trivial thing, we all do our own things that we maybe shouldn't and thats mine I do find it funny though that some people think of smoking as a weakness.. does that meen drinking is a weakness.. after all, they can both affect your health Tony | |||
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"there is a suppoert system set up within the NHS but it doesn't recieve half the funding that drug addition recieves why should it ?" because there are far more smoker's in this country than drug abuser's and the goverment is actively trying to regulate smoking as it does drug use, a drug user can book into a rehab centre and get all the help and back up thats needed including 1-2-1 counciling a smoker goes to his doctor and is given a batch of patch's or what ever and sent on his way, no back up no counciling and no rehab centre, even people with problems that can't kill them get better back up help than a smoker | |||
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"and here's a thing i have noticed during the past few months, all the people who argued that smoking in pub's clubs and othe place's like that, where do you see them ?? out side talking to their smoker friends as they stand smoking, i thought the idea was to give the non-smokers a cleaner drinking space so they could enjoy their drink without breathing in the smoke others caused whilst enjoying a pint, there is something that britain was always proud to proclaim,,,, and that was freedom of choice,,,, where is that freedom for the smoker,,,the car driver kills more people per year than a smoker " Now that is about as daft a post as I have seen on here for a good while | |||
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"and here's a thing i have noticed during the past few months, all the people who argued that smoking in pub's clubs and othe place's like that, where do you see them ?? out side talking to their smoker friends as they stand smoking, i thought the idea was to give the non-smokers a cleaner drinking space so they could enjoy their drink without breathing in the smoke others caused whilst enjoying a pint, there is something that britain was always proud to proclaim,,,, and that was freedom of choice,,,, where is that freedom for the smoker,,,the car driver kills more people per year than a smoker " now im puzzled | |||
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