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"Comments regarding race, often reveal conscious/unconscious racist attitudes. As an open minded, british born&bred guy, of Indian parents, who loves the huge diversity in my city and social circles, I find myself feeling very disappointed and sad when I see profiles that say things like 'No Asians' 'No Blacks' 'ONLY WHITE' etc. Having said that, I'm glad that people with such race-related mindsets are so obviously&clearly identified because it makes my life easier to filter out who I'd be interested in, and who might be interested in me, saving me time and confusion." A silver Linning in all things, nice one. | |||
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"Comments regarding race, often reveal conscious/unconscious racist attitudes. As an open minded, british born&bred guy, of Indian parents, who loves the huge diversity in my city and social circles, I find myself feeling very disappointed and sad when I see profiles that say things like 'No Asians' 'No Blacks' 'ONLY WHITE' etc." I agree wholeheartedly with this point, but when does preference turn to racism? I have a few friends who don't find white/black people sexually attractive and still have friends of that colour but I wouldn't call them racist. I often find myself self wanting to ask what/why they feel this way, not in a judgemental why but for curiosity sake. I must say I'm kinda disappointed by the lack of female responses. I was really hoping to read their thoughts on the matter. | |||
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"Wont go into detail for fear of risking offending anyone on here.... But..... No racism here, but i (leo) could not go sexually anywhere near individuals who are of a particular skin colour, it is just of no appeal. I have been and would continue to be attracted to any race, religion, ethicity, hair style or colour. I honestly do not know which particular group individuals with this skin colour are attached to, ive never asked, but i simply find that shade unattractive. Darker or lighter is fine, and i know this from experience, but there is just a not so sweet spot. I doubt this makes me racist, but as i suffer from very short shaved hair which is not everyone elses cup of tea, i just put both down to preference. " What values do you think people attach to us baldies that put them off ? ...and maybe ask yourself what values you associate with people with that unattractive skin colour | |||
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"Wont go into detail for fear of risking offending anyone on here.... But..... No racism here, but i (leo) could not go sexually anywhere near individuals who are of a particular skin colour, it is just of no appeal. I have been and would continue to be attracted to any race, religion, ethicity, hair style or colour. I honestly do not know which particular group individuals with this skin colour are attached to, ive never asked, but i simply find that shade unattractive. Darker or lighter is fine, and i know this from experience, but there is just a not so sweet spot. I doubt this makes me racist, but as i suffer from very short shaved hair which is not everyone elses cup of tea, i just put both down to preference. " Ok first brave to comment and for that you get my respect. If something (clour) does not float your boat fair enough so long as it is a astetic issue and not a cultural one. I assume you have no issue socialising with people of this skin clour you just dont wish to play with them. That is not racism. Bald men are either not attractive to some people or the hottest thing on earth. That is an atstetic issue does it look nice to you? If it is based on the assumptions of what a bald man is capable of (the daft idea that bald men are less virial) than that is a predjudice. I am prepaired to accept your Astetic defence as honest. But i am sorry you are a Hens Tooth in the scene. The majority of the No Blacks ect. Is NOT an Astetic issue but a predjudice. Ie Racist. | |||
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With regards to values, i dont think its values based. I simply just do not find it attractive. Like i said earlier i dont even know which group they belong to, ive never asked. Ive had a jamaican girlfriend, polish, scottish and english, irish nutjob tedhead, i loved the persian girl i had an interesting date with, my tastes are varied, but thereis just type that isnot for me. Id love to meet an oriental though, one for the bucket list | |||
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"I think you are right, i do see all too often in some of my friends underlying raciscm of different kinds. Good people, just poorly educated. " Well there is a difference bettween people who are ignorant (just really have no understanding becouse they have not tried) and the delibaritly racist. I have been privalaged to have had sex with white Black Asian Oriental Kelts and Latins. Each was unique and i loved the variety of contrasts against my Scotish Skin. If you asked me which was best the answer would be an orgy with all of them at the same time. (If only!) I have had sex with people that was disapointing as well. The reason in each case had nothing to do with thier race, i have also had mindblowing sex with people of all these. That to had nothing to do with their race. People are either sexy or thier not, veriety is fantastic but does not make for good or bad sex. People make for good or bad sex. | |||
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"There are always exceptions to the rule in terms of attraction, but there is always a pattern. It's not racist to have a sexual preference for a certain ethnicity, it's the way people word it in their profile, I suppose, that can come off as racist. " And very attractive you are, Mae. My wife doesn't find black guys sexy (Asian guys, Hispanics, white guys no problem) whereas I am completely indiscriminate about colour (but am not too keen on fatties) - but we both have friends who are black and are also friends with fat ladies. And if we are on the subject or racism what of those profiles from both white and blacks saying 'only big black cocks need apply'? And I've seen a few profiles from Indian / Pakistani couples that say they aren't interested in anyone other than people similar to themselves. My personal feeling is that whatever you want to do in the bedroom is your affair as long as it is consensual. | |||
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"I'm Asian/Oriental/Filipino (whatever), my personal preference in men is White/Caucasian, but that is my sexual preference and tend to find I am attracted to more men of this ethnicity than any other. Having said that, my last boyfriend was Armenian and one of best meets I've had was half Nigerian and English. There are always exceptions to the rule in terms of attraction, but there is always a pattern. It's not racist to have a sexual preference for a certain ethnicity, it's the way people word it in their profile, I suppose, that can come off as racist. " | |||
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"exactly... you could also make assumptions if you really wanted to about those who say "no single men". sometimes I wonder in this modern world in which we live that there are people who almost seek something to be offended by... I personally use these types of profiles as good filters. if a lady wants BBC I immediately block as its blindingly obvious that I'm not for them. personally I don't care about colour. its the actual person and how they are that helps me decide if I want to pursue interest. and you look good too - as the interest in your seeking fwb thread has shown" | |||
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"There are of course lots of racist people on here as there is everywhere but can we really say that those not looking for certain races are being racist. I don't want to meet short men. Should I be outed for being discriminatory of short people or do i have the right to choose who I fuck without judgement? " Yes of course you do. As a previous poster say it is more about the motivation behind some of these preferences that is at issue. | |||
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"I don't want to meet short men. Should I be outed for being discriminatory of short people or do i have the right to choose who I fuck without judgement? " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bfyS-S-IJs | |||
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"What a load of bollox If someone only wants to suck white or black cock or someone only wants to lick black or white pussy does NOT make racist Everyone stop wanting to be a fucking victim " Unfortunately, there are people in the world and on this site who don't choose partners of a certain race for solely racist reasons. Also, I don't believe anyone is wanting to be a "victim", we're just having a discussion | |||
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"I have had only abt 3 meets in the 5 years i have been part of the site and I accept that as an oriental guy I do not appeal to the high majority of users. I do respect that it may be the issue of personal preference as long as the intent is genuine. It feels a bit stressful since I am given so many rejections on here so often but I guess it cannot be helped." Apply to attend the London Chill out Social when it next comes up. I am sure you will be most welcome my freind. | |||
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"I have posted a couple of times on this subject. I find a number of the "preference arguments" to be dubious at least. I am not ito TVs(TS is trans and are the gender they are moving to) but i do not put NO TVs on my profile why would I? I have no problem chatting to them as most are nice enough people. Sometimes i will be winked or messaged or fabed by a TV. Thats fine and flattering not offensive the fact it does not float my boat is neither here nor there. So why the,"No blacks no Asians". Sometimes i wonder why they do not go the whole hog and include the No Dogs no Irish bit as well. Peoples preferences are governed by two basic facts on here. 1) what they like, having experienced different things and coming to know the things they enjoy. Or 2) a failure to explore things and knowing what they like. (Sexuality is a seporate subject). Simply holding a belief that has not been tested. Those in the first CAT tend not to put up these NO (any thing) bits as its not neccesary. They often write in the positive We Want X. There is no need to write we dont want, as being free people we can simply say no to that which we do not want. Those in CAT 2 simply put up the NO blacks No Asians (i have seen no Whites) to maintain thier untested beliefs. A preference based on an untested belief is by definition a prejudice. If that prejudice is based on a race than sorry but that to by definition is racist. For me i have sex with sexy people and those come in all colours sizes ages and genders. Finally while I am not into TVs i accept that the possability exists that one could come along that i did fancy. So happy swinging folks." Spot on. When I see any profile screaming no this or that with regards to race, sexuality, gender or knob size (things out of someone's control) I'll ignore. Stating it as personal preference is bigoted bullshit. You might not be attracted to a) or b) but hush your damn mouth. Take the compliment, delete their message quietly and get on with your day. | |||
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"I have posted a couple of times on this subject. I find a number of the "preference arguments" to be dubious at least. I am not ito TVs(TS is trans and are the gender they are moving to) but i do not put NO TVs on my profile why would I? I have no problem chatting to them as most are nice enough people. Sometimes i will be winked or messaged or fabed by a TV. Thats fine and flattering not offensive the fact it does not float my boat is neither here nor there. So why the,"No blacks no Asians". Sometimes i wonder why they do not go the whole hog and include the No Dogs no Irish bit as well. Peoples preferences are governed by two basic facts on here. 1) what they like, having experienced different things and coming to know the things they enjoy. Or 2) a failure to explore things and knowing what they like. (Sexuality is a seporate subject). Simply holding a belief that has not been tested. Those in the first CAT tend not to put up these NO (any thing) bits as its not neccesary. They often write in the positive We Want X. There is no need to write we dont want, as being free people we can simply say no to that which we do not want. Those in CAT 2 simply put up the NO blacks No Asians (i have seen no Whites) to maintain thier untested beliefs. A preference based on an untested belief is by definition a prejudice. If that prejudice is based on a race than sorry but that to by definition is racist. For me i have sex with sexy people and those come in all colours sizes ages and genders. Finally while I am not into TVs i accept that the possability exists that one could come along that i did fancy. So happy swinging folks. Spot on. When I see any profile screaming no this or that with regards to race, sexuality, gender or knob size (things out of someone's control) I'll ignore. Stating it as personal preference is bigoted bullshit. You might not be attracted to a) or b) but hush your damn mouth. Take the compliment, delete their message quietly and get on with your day." | |||
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"It can be viewed both ways, I suspect that in most cases on fab it is racism disguised as personal preference. Personal preference is a choice but the statements on some profiles are disguised as personal preference but you know are racist...'no blacks or asians' we all have preferences but there's always exceptions to the rules"Great thread. And this guys post is spot on. I look at every woman I've contacted as a person, not a colour. Race shouldn't matter at all. The most pathetic excuse is "fuck off it's not racism it's preference"...bollocks it is. Why should race bar anyone from sex? Anyhow, I've also seen this in droves on here, for broadminded adults they aren't really broadminded at all...it is bigotry and racism. Don't deny it. And what sickens me more is the atypical reaction of "play violins, poor me and of course stop playing the victim or the race card"... It's all indicative of being scared, badly educated and or course a racist... | |||
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"What a load of bollox If someone only wants to suck white or black cock or someone only wants to lick black or white pussy does NOT make racist Everyone stop wanting to be a fucking victim "
At the end of the day we all have preferences, doesn't? have to be whatever 'ist' fits the bill. Those who state there not looking for single guys are they sexist? | |||
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"What a load of bollox If someone only wants to suck white or black cock or someone only wants to lick black or white pussy does NOT make racist Everyone stop wanting to be a fucking victim
At the end of the day we all have preferences, doesn't? have to be whatever 'ist' fits the bill. Those who state there not looking for single guys are they sexist? "Don't take it personally. The posters are not saying ALL people who say there is a preference for colour is racist. They are saying SOME have a racist thought behind it. The fact you react like people are being predujice against people having a preference on colour is racist, then you know how some of the gentlemen who feel discriminated feel then? | |||
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"What a load of bollox If someone only wants to suck white or black cock or someone only wants to lick black or white pussy does NOT make racist Everyone stop wanting to be a fucking victim " If you're into hypothesis and data/analytics. Are you saying there can not be a racial discrimination. What if I say I only lick [colour] pussy because I don't trust all [colour] people. By your logic it doesn't make me racist. Be a realist! | |||
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" Don't take it personally. The posters are not saying ALL people who say there is a preference for colour is racist. They are saying SOME have a racist thought behind it. The fact you react like people are being predujice against people having a preference on colour is racist, then you know how some of the gentlemen who feel discriminated feel then?" Wasn't taken personally my issue is with people quick to introduce labels. I've read many profiles asking for black men only. I don't see that as racist as it's not. Couples and females get a lot of mail surely there allowed to filter that mail by highlighting who they do or do not want to meet. I don't understand why people are interested in the whys of somebody not wanting to meet them. | |||
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"What a load of bollox If someone only wants to suck white or black cock or someone only wants to lick black or white pussy does NOT make racist Everyone stop wanting to be a fucking victim If you're into hypothesis and data/analytics. Are you saying there can not be a racial discrimination. What if I say I only lick [colour] pussy because I don't trust all [colour] people. By your logic it doesn't make me racist. Be a realist!" That's obviously nothing like what he was saying.  | |||
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 haha). I don't understand why it's SO DAMN HARD for people to understand and accept institutional racism.
An example: my childhood upbringing heavily othered black people, who in my culture were very very rare and almost always of very low social standing. These childhood messages instilled a fear in me to the point that even today I am intimidated by black people and black culture. I didn't get to meet a black person socially until my mid twenties, and even after I've had very little chance to integrate. I may not put "no blacks" on my profile but in reality I have never as much as snogged a black person in my life. Like everyone else, I wouldn't want to call myself racist, I'm not a white supremacist after all. But I *am* the product of a racist culture, which makes me racist.
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" Don't take it personally. The posters are not saying ALL people who say there is a preference for colour is racist. They are saying SOME have a racist thought behind it. The fact you react like people are being predujice against people having a preference on colour is racist, then you know how some of the gentlemen who feel discriminated feel then? Wasn't taken personally my issue is with people quick to introduce labels. I've read many profiles asking for black men only. I don't see that as racist as it's not. Couples and females get a lot of mail surely there allowed to filter that mail by highlighting who they do or do not want to meet. I don't understand why people are interested in the whys of somebody not wanting to meet them." Asking for black men only IS kinda racist mate ..that is the point The underlying thought (99 times out of a 100) is all black men have big dicks. Reducing an individual to a stereotype based on race is what racial discrimination is all about. So just to be clear ..it ismt racist for excluding other colours .. its the fact of including only A colour* * and also its not 'positive' discrimination!! | |||
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"What a load of bollox If someone only wants to suck white or black cock or someone only wants to lick black or white pussy does NOT make racist Everyone stop wanting to be a fucking victim
At the end of the day we all have preferences, doesn't? have to be whatever 'ist' fits the bill. Those who state there not looking for single guys are they sexist?
Don't take it personally. The posters are not saying ALL people who say there is a preference for colour is racist. They are saying SOME have a racist thought behind it.
The fact you react like people are being predujice against people having a preference on colour is racist, then you know how some of the gentlemen who feel discriminated feel then?" | |||
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"OP I thought the video explained well why exclusionary racial preferences are inherently racist (though unnerving the presenter didn't seem to blink for the whole four and a bit minutes! haha). I don't understand why it's SO DAMN HARD for people to understand and accept institutional racism.
An example: my childhood upbringing heavily othered black people, who in my culture were very very rare and almost always of very low social standing. These childhood messages instilled a fear in me to the point that even today I am intimidated by black people and black culture. I didn't get to meet a black person socially until my mid twenties, and even after I've had very little chance to integrate. I may not put "no blacks" on my profile but in reality I have never as much as snogged a black person in my life. Like everyone else, I wouldn't want to call myself racist, I'm not a white supremacist after all. But I *am* the product of a racist culture, which makes me racist.
"Actually I would suggest you are one of the least Racist people on here. An honest self analysis of where you are on the jurney is a major achivment to be proud of. Take the active next step and challange what you know is negative childhood programing. I am not suggesting you find black people to fuck that would be counter to what I am saying. But one day you might find someone who you do wish to fuck and then realise thier Race afterwards. Actively socialising with people and getting to know them and relate to them is a positive challange to that childhood programing and you will enjoy the liberarion of throwing that program away. Good on you. | |||
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" Don't take it personally. The posters are not saying ALL people who say there is a preference for colour is racist. They are saying SOME have a racist thought behind it. The fact you react like people are being predujice against people having a preference on colour is racist, then you know how some of the gentlemen who feel discriminated feel then? Wasn't taken personally my issue is with people quick to introduce labels. I've read many profiles asking for black men only. I don't see that as racist as it's not. Couples and females get a lot of mail surely there allowed to filter that mail by highlighting who they do or do not want to meet. I don't understand why people are interested in the whys of somebody not wanting to meet them. Asking for black men only IS kinda racist mate ..that is the point The underlying thought (99 times out of a 100) is all black men have big dicks. Reducing an individual to a stereotype based on race is what racial discrimination is all about. So just to be clear ..it ismt racist for excluding other colours .. its the fact of including only A colour* * and also its not 'positive' discrimination!! " Could not have said it better myself. Bang on bullseye! | |||
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"Asking for black men only IS kinda racist mate ..that is the point The underlying thought (99 times out of a 100) is all black men have big dicks. Reducing an individual to a stereotype based on race is what racial discrimination is all about. So just to be clear ..it ismt racist for excluding other colours .. its the fact of including only A colour* * and also its not 'positive' discrimination!!" | |||
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"OP I thought the video explained well why exclusionary racial preferences are inherently racist (though unnerving the presenter didn't seem to blink for the whole four and a bit minutes! haha). I don't understand why it's SO DAMN HARD for people to understand and accept institutional racism."I think you've hit the nail on the head with "institutional racism". In this case, no matter how you swing it, it's racism. Also, upon watching the video again, you're right about her seemingly not blinking haha | |||
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"Surely easier to just delete the people who message you your preference does not match. Then again I have never been one for demands or lists on a profile Is it Racism? I suspect not mostly" How can discrimination on bounds of race not be racism? | |||
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"Nothing wrong with some name calling between lovers with an understanding, I like when girls say " give me that black cock" or "fuck my lil white pussy" or anything along them lines, I really don't think it's an issue unless one of the parties involved aren't interested in that type of thing " Agree to an extent my ex (indian) used to joke and say... i love when we lay in bed on a Sun morn and racislly abuse each other... It seems thst people only get stuffy about it and love crying the R card when its not working in their favour. X | |||
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"Nothing wrong with some name calling between lovers with an understanding, I like when girls say " give me that black cock" or "fuck my lil white pussy" or anything along them lines, I really don't think it's an issue unless one of the parties involved aren't interested in that type of thing Agree to an extent my ex (indian) used to joke and say... i love when we lay in bed on a Sun morn and racislly abuse each other... It seems thst people only get stuffy about it and love crying the R card when its not working in their favour. X" Definitely people use it when it's working for em | |||
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" How can discrimination on bounds of race not be racism?" Do you discriminate anyone you don't want to fuck? | |||
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"Nothing wrong with some name calling between lovers with an understanding, I like when girls say " give me that black cock" or "fuck my lil white pussy" or anything along them lines, I really don't think it's an issue unless one of the parties involved aren't interested in that type of thing Agree to an extent my ex (indian) used to joke and say... i love when we lay in bed on a Sun morn and racislly abuse each other... It seems thst people only get stuffy about it and love crying the R card when its not working in their favour. X" It could be that everyone is different and has different standards and you cannot assume someone thinks the same as someone just because they share a skin type. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with some name calling between lovers with an understanding, I like when girls say " give me that black cock" or "fuck my lil white pussy" or anything along them lines, I really don't think it's an issue unless one of the parties involved aren't interested in that type of thing Agree to an extent my ex (indian) used to joke and say... i love when we lay in bed on a Sun morn and racislly abuse each other... It seems thst people only get stuffy about it and love crying the R card when its not working in their favour. X It could be that everyone is different and has different standards and you cannot assume someone thinks the same as someone just because they share a skin type." The last four people in that story all had different skin types. It more boils down to the fact people are choosing its deffo that then see offence in it. Maybe they are getting turned down on here for distance/age/fact they are bi/too many veris/jusy dont fancy their pic/their message was rude. Theres a whole host of things that rule people out... why is it always quicklu assumed its the colour of the skin? X | |||
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"Nothing wrong with some name calling between lovers with an understanding, I like when girls say " give me that black cock" or "fuck my lil white pussy" or anything along them lines, I really don't think it's an issue unless one of the parties involved aren't interested in that type of thing Agree to an extent my ex (indian) used to joke and say... i love when we lay in bed on a Sun morn and racislly abuse each other... It seems thst people only get stuffy about it and love crying the R card when its not working in their favour. X It could be that everyone is different and has different standards and you cannot assume someone thinks the same as someone just because they share a skin type. The last four people in that story all had different skin types. It more boils down to the fact people are choosing its deffo that then see offence in it. Maybe they are getting turned down on here for distance/age/fact they are bi/too many veris/jusy dont fancy their pic/their message was rude. Theres a whole host of things that rule people out... why is it always quicklu assumed its the colour of the skin? X" I think you've summed it up perfectly | |||
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"What a load of bollox If someone only wants to suck white or black cock or someone only wants to lick black or white pussy does NOT make racist Everyone stop wanting to be a fucking victim Unfortunately, there are people in the world and on this site who don't choose partners of a certain race for solely racist reasons. If someone doesn't like black/white pussy or cock it don't make them racist and sorry but nowdays far tomany people WANT ago be victims all the day and spend far to much time being "offended" by someone everyone anyone Also, I don't believe anyone is wanting to be a "victim", we're just having a discussion " | |||
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"Nothing wrong with some name calling between lovers with an understanding, I like when girls say " give me that black cock" or "fuck my lil white pussy" or anything along them lines, I really don't think it's an issue unless one of the parties involved aren't interested in that type of thing Agree to an extent my ex (indian) used to joke and say... i love when we lay in bed on a Sun morn and racislly abuse each other... It seems thst people only get stuffy about it and love crying the R card when its not working in their favour. X It could be that everyone is different and has different standards and you cannot assume someone thinks the same as someone just because they share a skin type. The last four people in that story all had different skin types. It more boils down to the fact people are choosing its deffo that then see offence in it. Maybe they are getting turned down on here for distance/age/fact they are bi/too many veris/jusy dont fancy their pic/their message was rude. Theres a whole host of things that rule people out... why is it always quicklu assumed its the colour of the skin? X" Because when people say no blacks no Asians they are making it rather clear it's the colour of the skin. | |||
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"If I don't want a black pussy it DONT make me racist, just the same those that want "BBC" I don't feel I,m being discrimated against Stop looking for problems and just get over it " No. It does. You can say it doesn't all you like. But assumption that a pussy is not going to be as good because it is black is racist. You saying it is not racist changes nothing. The difference is that you are free to make whatever choice you like but people can criticise that choice especially when it is based on the colour of someone's skin. | |||
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"If I don't want a black pussy it DONT make me racist, just the same those that want "BBC" I don't feel I,m being discrimated against Stop looking for problems and just get over it No. It does. You can say it doesn't all you like. But assumption that a pussy is not going to be as good because it is black is racist. You saying it is not racist changes nothing. The difference is that you are free to make whatever choice you like but people can criticise that choice especially when it is based on the colour of someone's skin." Well said. | |||
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"If I don't want a black pussy it DONT make me racist, just the same those that want "BBC" I don't feel I,m being discrimated against Stop looking for problems and just get over it No. It does. You can say it doesn't all you like. But assumption that a pussy is not going to be as good because it is black is racist. You saying it is not racist changes nothing. The difference is that you are free to make whatever choice you like but people can criticise that choice especially when it is based on the colour of someone's skin." So you fuck every person who messages you? | |||
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"If I don't want a black pussy it DONT make me racist, just the same those that want "BBC" I don't feel I,m being discrimated against Stop looking for problems and just get over it No. It does. You can say it doesn't all you like. But assumption that a pussy is not going to be as good because it is black is racist. You saying it is not racist changes nothing. The difference is that you are free to make whatever choice you like but people can criticise that choice especially when it is based on the colour of someone's skin. So you fuck every person who messages you?" That is a ridiculous response. The reason we don't or do fuck people is varied depending on the person. Their race is never a reason one way or another. | |||
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" That is a ridiculous response. " You think? Choosing not to fuck anybody for something you don't find attractive isn't discrimination it's everybody's right surely? | |||
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. Its likely i have, but im usually the last guy sat next to on the train if theres space elsewhere. As my partner would tell you, im the loveliest gentleman, kindest heart, a beautifull person. I kinda like the space i get on busy trains.
This is a place for sexually liberated people & i too have seen black cock only requests, as much as no asians requirements. Is there racism here, maybe sometimes.... My big white cock is no different to a big black cock, but you know what, if the chick dont want to play with it, thats her perogative. Looking for underlying reasons why is vain and petty and is little different to calling her a fat lesbo.
Coming in here and broadly accusing whole groups of profiles racist i find offensive. You only have to look at the profiles of BWC's and their verifications to know, quality of profile is far more important.
In the end, no means no, whatever the reason. Respect it and move on. Sad thing is, people with chips cant. | |||
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"Im sure there'll be a profile on here that actually says 'no dumpy white chicks with highlighted hair'. Just like i dont want someone that doesnt attract me. Its all cool x" Not wishing to sound Anti-disability (particulalry as I am One) but anyone who says your Dumpy is a blind MotherFucker! You are NOT dumpy!!! Oh hell NO! | |||
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"Nothing wrong with some name calling between lovers with an understanding, I like when girls say " give me that black cock" or "fuck my lil white pussy" or anything along them lines, I really don't think it's an issue unless one of the parties involved aren't interested in that type of thing Agree to an extent my ex (indian) used to joke and say... i love when we lay in bed on a Sun morn and racislly abuse each other... It seems thst people only get stuffy about it and love crying the R card when its not working in their favour. X" Being that I an a White Guy and calling out predjudice not sure that applys. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with some name calling between lovers with an understanding, I like when girls say " give me that black cock" or "fuck my lil white pussy" or anything along them lines, I really don't think it's an issue unless one of the parties involved aren't interested in that type of thing Agree to an extent my ex (indian) used to joke and say... i love when we lay in bed on a Sun morn and racislly abuse each other... It seems thst people only get stuffy about it and love crying the R card when its not working in their favour. X It could be that everyone is different and has different standards and you cannot assume someone thinks the same as someone just because they share a skin type. The last four people in that story all had different skin types. It more boils down to the fact people are choosing its deffo that then see offence in it. Maybe they are getting turned down on here for distance/age/fact they are bi/too many veris/jusy dont fancy their pic/their message was rude. Theres a whole host of things that rule people out... why is it always quicklu assumed its the colour of the skin? X" This is a good point. There are many reasons people would say no to other people. The thread is on this particular aspect mind so that explains the theme of this discussion. | |||
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" That is a ridiculous response. You think? Choosing not to fuck anybody for something you don't find attractive isn't discrimination it's everybody's right surely? " Mate I love Tacos but I am Not interested in Fucking you. Thats got nothing to do with Tacos. | |||
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"Realy rather tired of this thread. I see a lot of chips on shoulders and entrenched attitudes. Im white, I am lucky to have never have been discriminated against to my knowledge. I am tall & scottish & shaved head. It creates an impression. . Its likely i have, but im usually the last guy sat next to on the train if theres space elsewhere. As my partner would tell you, im the loveliest gentleman, kindest heart, a beautifull person. I kinda like the space i get on busy trains.
This is a place for sexually liberated people & i too have seen black cock only requests, as much as no asians requirements. Is there racism here, maybe sometimes.... My big white cock is no different to a big black cock, but you know what, if the chick dont want to play with it, thats her perogative. Looking for underlying reasons why is vain and petty and is little different to calling her a fat lesbo.
Coming in here and broadly accusing whole groups of profiles racist i find offensive. You only have to look at the profiles of BWC's and their verifications to know, quality of profile is far more important.
In the end, no means no, whatever the reason. Respect it and move on. Sad thing is, people with chips cant. " | |||
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"Realy rather tired of this thread. I see a lot of chips on shoulders and entrenched attitudes. Im white, I am lucky to have never have been discriminated against to my knowledge. I am tall & scottish & shaved head. It creates an impression. . Its likely i have, but im usually the last guy sat next to on the train if theres space elsewhere. As my partner would tell you, im the loveliest gentleman, kindest heart, a beautifull person. I kinda like the space i get on busy trains.
This is a place for sexually liberated people & i too have seen black cock only requests, as much as no asians requirements. Is there racism here, maybe sometimes.... My big white cock is no different to a big black cock, but you know what, if the chick dont want to play with it, thats her perogative. Looking for underlying reasons why is vain and petty and is little different to calling her a fat lesbo.
Coming in here and broadly accusing whole groups of profiles racist i find offensive. You only have to look at the profiles of BWC's and their verifications to know, quality of profile is far more important.
In the end, no means no, whatever the reason. Respect it and move on. Sad thing is, people with chips cant. "Oddly Cusin we are similar types you and I. I have no chip be Perhaps a wee Bee in my Bonnet i grant you. No defo means No. For what ever reason. Sexually Liberated should also include socially Liberated to go with it. Skin colour is only shorthand for cultural issues. It would be like saying No Muslims. Muslims come in all colours but most are Asian / Arabic. Behind the comment is a story. Some stories are not good stories. I grant that people can have genuine preferences, i just find some very odd and wonder what the motivation is. Yours and my big white cocks will feel just as good as a BBC. So maybe these adverts are looking to fuck to a deep Garage Hiphop and dont want the Red Hot Chilli Pipers? At the end of the day the old adage rings true, Dont Nock it till you tried it. | |||
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" That is a ridiculous response. You think? Choosing not to fuck anybody for something you don't find attractive isn't discrimination it's everybody's right surely? " No one is talking about all discrimination. We are talking specifically about discrimination on grounds of race. (Or racism as it is known) We all have to discriminate from day to day, I discriminate on grounds of flavour for food, busyness for crossing roads etc. But discrimination on grounds of race is distasteful and rather unpleasant. I assume you are intelligent enough to know the difference so please stop deliberately muddying the waters. | |||
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"on that basis you can deem any statement as racist if you really try hard enough... as someone pointed out earlier, they have friends of other ethnicities, but they don't fancy them enough to have sex with them. just because they say no to them sexually doesn't make them racist, which is what you imply when someone puts no to a group of a particular origin. I'm not particularly keen on meeting couples. does that make me "couplist"?? " No. You may not want to have a threesome or a guy or a woman present. That's fine. But the assumption that no one with black skin or no Asian or no White person on earth will give you sexual satisfaction is either crassly naïve or you just don't want to be near people of that rave. Either way your view is open to criticism and in some cases, ridicule. | |||
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"on that basis you can deem any statement as racist if you really try hard enough... as someone pointed out earlier, they have friends of other ethnicities, but they don't fancy them enough to have sex with them. just because they say no to them sexually doesn't make them racist, which is what you imply when someone puts no to a group of a particular origin. I'm not particularly keen on meeting couples. does that make me "couplist"?? No. You may not want to have a threesome or a guy or a woman present. That's fine. But the assumption that no one with black skin or no Asian or no White person on earth will give you sexual satisfaction is either crassly naïve or you just don't want to be near people of that rave. Either way your view is open to criticism and in some cases, ridicule. " | |||
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" I assume you are intelligent enough to know the difference so please stop deliberately muddying the waters." I am 
I believe Racism is an important issue but using it to justify the fact that people aren't interested in somebody is lame. | |||
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" I assume you are intelligent enough to know the difference so please stop deliberately muddying the waters. I am
I believe Racism is an important issue but using it to justify the fact that people aren't interested in somebody is lame. "The first bit is the sort of thing you hear from large corporations who won't elect non white people onto their board. If the reason someone won't consider someone else for something is because of their race, then that is racism. What else can it be? | |||
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"On another note though. You can't help who you're just not attracted to. Its proven in science. From the origin of the topic "people writing 'no black men etc etc". I agree i'd NEVER write that but i also know what DOESN'T attract me... Theres tons of white men on here i'd meet. But lots that are a straight NO. Same for asian (indian/pakistani). Ive never had sex with a black man... not because i didnt want to... ive just never met one i fancied enough.... the same goes for the other asians (chinese/korean). I know a (white) friend who wouldnt touch a white man with a barge pole as she just isnt attracted. So... yes... maybe its a shit thing to write... but i like honesty." Totally agree. But to write off an entire race because you have yet to find one who attracts you is rather silly. All that means is you have not found one yet. It does not mean there are none. Furthermore any scientist will say that you can never prove anything. You can just build a body of evidence but there is always a chance that something will sweep away all that evidence. So to say "It is proven in science" is wrong. Furthermore you have not cited any sources to back your claim up so whilst it may well have a sound basis, it is at the moment totally worthless. | |||
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"On another note though. You can't help who you're just not attracted to. Its proven in science. From the origin of the topic "people writing 'no black men etc etc". I agree i'd NEVER write that but i also know what DOESN'T attract me... Theres tons of white men on here i'd meet. But lots that are a straight NO. Same for asian (indian/pakistani). Ive never had sex with a black man... not because i didnt want to... ive just never met one i fancied enough.... the same goes for the other asians (chinese/korean). I know a (white) friend who wouldnt touch a white man with a barge pole as she just isnt attracted. So... yes... maybe its a shit thing to write... but i like honesty." Now I agree you rarely choose who you are attracted to. And lack of Oppertunity to experience somthing is clearly not Prejudice motivated. Choosing people you fancy on here also means choosing people you dont. And that needs no justification. I have and enjoy sex with all sorts of people that does not mean I fuck anything with a pulse! Its specifically about the reasons some people choose to exclude a Race that interests me as I dont. | |||
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"well actually i was in a full interracial relationship for 18 months. and very happy I was too to be in it, perhaps you should stick to your beliefs and lump people you have never met into demographics that suit your do-good attitudes? I cant see your view that saying no to couples for example because they may not give you satisfaction is ok, but saying no because someone of a different skin colour isn't. if anything that's looking to stir up division when there doesnt need to be. No should be No and that's it, just accept that the person's preference may not be for you (heaven forbid people being allowed to choose who they want to meet - whats the world coming to?), chill out and move on to the next one. But that would be the simple solution.... and far too easy." No one is arguing that people cannot say no. We all agree 100% on that. We are having a discussion about the deeper motives behind why people say no before ever getting to know anything about a person. There are many reasons for many acts but one of them in this case is prejudiced based solely on race. That is worthy of criticism and I will never stop criticising people who do that. It is their decision and they can choose to ignore my criticism and continue or maybe some may one day realise they are being fatuous and change to become less prejudiced. Either way criticism is good and people should indulge in it fairly and respectfully at all times. If you cannot take criticism it suggests you are rather immature. Learn that it is a positive thing and you get to choose to heed it or not. | |||
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"I just don't understand the need to label things. What does sexual racism mean? Surely if you a racist or prejudiced, it transcends everything... Sexual or otherwise.... "It usually does. But it manifests itself in various subtle ways. | |||
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"well actually i was in a full interracial relationship for 18 months. and very happy I was too to be in it, perhaps you should stick to your beliefs and lump people you have never met into demographics that suit your do-good attitudes? I cant see your view that saying no to couples for example because they may not give you satisfaction is ok, but saying no because someone of a different skin colour isn't. if anything that's looking to stir up division when there doesnt need to be. No should be No and that's it, just accept that the person's preference may not be for you (heaven forbid people being allowed to choose who they want to meet - whats the world coming to?), chill out and move on to the next one. But that would be the simple solution.... and far too easy. No one is arguing that people cannot say no. We all agree 100% on that. We are having a discussion about the deeper motives behind why people say no before ever getting to know anything about a person. There are many reasons for many acts but one of them in this case is prejudiced based solely on race. That is worthy of criticism and I will never stop criticising people who do that. It is their decision and they can choose to ignore my criticism and continue or maybe some may one day realise they are being fatuous and change to become less prejudiced. Either way criticism is good and people should indulge in it fairly and respectfully at all times. If you cannot take criticism it suggests you are rather immature. Learn that it is a positive thing and you get to choose to heed it or not. " | |||
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"I just don't understand the need to label things. What does sexual racism mean? Surely if you a racist or prejudiced, it transcends everything... Sexual or otherwise....
It usually does. But it manifests itself in various subtle ways."Yep I am with that. But your point is sound in my hummble oppinion. The label I suppose just makes it relevent to our current situation. | |||
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"I always find the 'no blacks/Asians' thing odd. So you could meet someone charming, confident, intelligent, with a great body, who makes you laugh, and you'd turn them down solely because of their race? But that isn't a racist decision? And obviously, it's fine to have that choice. But surely it's worth asking yourself why and where that attitude comes from? We live in a racist world and it's tough not to absorb some of those ideas. Self awareness is the only remedy, really. " Spot on the money in my book. | |||
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"It can be viewed both ways, I suspect that in most cases on fab it is racism disguised as personal preference. Personal preference is a choice but the statements on some profiles are disguised as personal preference but you know are racist...'no blacks or asians' we all have preferences but there's always exceptions to the rules" | |||
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"My preference is black. Not Asian or White but if someone came along who i connected to thrn doesnt matter what colour they are" That's what matters - connection. It's good to see you're more open minded. | |||
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"I always find the 'no blacks/Asians' thing odd. So you could meet someone charming, confident, intelligent, with a great body, who makes you laugh, and you'd turn them down solely because of their race? But that isn't a racist decision? And obviously, it's fine to have that choice. But surely it's worth asking yourself why and where that attitude comes from? We live in a racist world and it's tough not to absorb some of those ideas. Self awareness is the only remedy, really. Spot on the money in my book." Ditto | |||
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