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By *og-Man OP   Man
over a year ago

somewhere

Just a thought stuck me since last week when I was asked to verify a man in jest.

Whats acceptable and unacceptable when it comes to verifications especially the all important first one especially for a man.

Why do women / couples only accept an invitation to a social meet/potential partner from someone thats verified...isnt the point of the social meet the chance to check out the person and that they click and someone else's veri is useless in that situation.

Is a veri from one man to another man say meeting for a pint in a pub to watch a match acceptable to the women/couples.

Its proves the guy exists and that he seems ok and yet men also seem not to want this in case people think they are gay ...whats that about.

In this day and age in Ireland there are a hell of a lot of single men and women seperated who crave sex with lots of other people.

Only one of these is the mythical unicorn with couples hunting high and low the other is left to their own devices

Does any of this make sense or am I talking bollox

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Speaking as the jester who dragged you into that conversation B I don't disagree with most of what you say. I've been previously verified by the male half of a couple who I met at a social gathering and also by another male who attended that night. I was conscious of that showing on my profile so I hid them but the way I see it now is that if you are verified you are verified and it won't really affect any future interaction you have if you don't have the right attitude and treat people with respect.

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I have met several people who are not veried so it doesn't bother me if they are or aren't veried. I chat to someone for a while before I meet and if I like them I meet them. I find of you chat you get a feel for the person. I have also met guys who have been veried by other guys. Mostly through having 3somes etc or social meets . Either way it doesn't bother me.

Yes it can be handy to know someone is reliable etc from veris but to be honest I find just chatting you get a feeling about someone anyhow.

And quite often of people chat and the say they won't meet cos of someone not being veried it is just a way of getting out of meeting someone without saying they actually just don't want to meet.

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By *antra MassageMan
over a year ago

city

My ego loves a good verification. I've seen some written by people who must have degrees in literature, and others by people who find it hard to describe their meeting in words. I recently verified a guy I know, to help him get moving on fab, and I've been verified by guys, too. What's better than a veri? A repeat meet.

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia

I can only speak from our perspective.. We have have very busy lives and that means that opportunities to meet are few and far between, so we need to ensure that our play partner is reliable and comfortable playing with a couple, which can be a very intimidating experience for the uninitiated.. We will only meet verified guys because the chance of a no show is less, and verified by couples unless something very interesting is on offer. It doesn't make things easy for newbies, but that's just not our problem

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By *etite_RosyWoman
over a year ago

Now in MALAGA (SPAIN)


"I have met several people who are not veried so it doesn't bother me if they are or aren't veried. I chat to someone for a while before I meet and if I like them I meet them. I find of you chat you get a feel for the person. I have also met guys who have been veried by other guys. Mostly through having 3somes etc or social meets . Either way it doesn't bother me.

Yes it can be handy to know someone is reliable etc from veris but to be honest I find just chatting you get a feeling about someone anyhow.

And quite often of people chat and the say they won't meet cos of someone not being veried it is just a way of getting out of meeting someone without saying they actually just don't want to meet. "

Exactly the same thoughts

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By *og-Man OP   Man
over a year ago

somewhere


"I can only speak from our perspective.. We have have very busy lives and that means that opportunities to meet are few and far between, so we need to ensure that our play partner is reliable and comfortable playing with a couple, which can be a very intimidating experience for the uninitiated.. We will only meet verified guys because the chance of a no show is less, and verified by couples unless something very interesting is on offer. It doesn't make things easy for newbies, but that's just not our problem"

Understood but would a guy have to be sex meet verified (not same sex) ,social meet verified by a woman or couple only or is a same sex social meet acceptable as a verification

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia


"I can only speak from our perspective.. We have have very busy lives and that means that opportunities to meet are few and far between, so we need to ensure that our play partner is reliable and comfortable playing with a couple, which can be a very intimidating experience for the uninitiated.. We will only meet verified guys because the chance of a no show is less, and verified by couples unless something very interesting is on offer. It doesn't make things easy for newbies, but that's just not our problem

Understood but would a guy have to be sex meet verified (not same sex) ,social meet verified by a woman or couple only or is a same sex social meet acceptable as a verification"

Play verified. Its a very differant thing meeting a guy or a girl for a coffee than walking into a room with a semi naked couple and be expected to perform..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can only speak from our perspective.. We have have very busy lives and that means that opportunities to meet are few and far between, so we need to ensure that our play partner is reliable and comfortable playing with a couple, which can be a very intimidating experience for the uninitiated.. We will only meet verified guys because the chance of a no show is less, and verified by couples unless something very interesting is on offer. It doesn't make things easy for newbies, but that's just not our problem"

Agree wholeheartedly with this.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

I don't do socials, I like to meet for fun not for coffee. That's why I don't meet men who aren't play meet verified. It's part of security and safety measures.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't have any problem in meeting a guy for a pint or whatever to veri him and worrying about what ppl think wouldn't even enter my head. Your not gay cause you meets a guy for a drink. Probably end up having a very interesting convo about anything and nothing to do with this place. Jeez I talk to random punters every day most of which are great little chats. Guys gotta get over this "gay" thing and what other ppl think.... you're over thinking things. It seems like most of the ppl here are just normal nice ppl so what's the problem. Sorry did I just go off on one?? I didn't mean to but ppl using the gay thing as an excuse is just ridiclous in this day an age

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By *rmrspumpCouple
over a year ago

narnia


"I wouldn't have any problem in meeting a guy for a pint or whatever to veri him and worrying about what ppl think wouldn't even enter my head. Your not gay cause you meets a guy for a drink. Probably end up having a very interesting convo about anything and nothing to do with this place. Jeez I talk to random punters every day most of which are great little chats. Guys gotta get over this "gay" thing and what other ppl think.... you're over thinking things. It seems like most of the ppl here are just normal nice ppl so what's the problem. Sorry did I just go off on one?? I didn't mean to but ppl using the gay thing as an excuse is just ridiclous in this day an age"

I don't think the issue is people thinking your gay, the issue is 2 guys meeting for a pint means nothing. Nobody thinks male profiles are just pretending to be males, proving a guy is real is irrelevant.. Proving that he turned up to a play meet, performed and wasn't a dick is what people look for in verifications

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By *og-Man OP   Man
over a year ago

somewhere


"I wouldn't have any problem in meeting a guy for a pint or whatever to veri him and worrying about what ppl think wouldn't even enter my head. Your not gay cause you meets a guy for a drink. Probably end up having a very interesting convo about anything and nothing to do with this place. Jeez I talk to random punters every day most of which are great little chats. Guys gotta get over this "gay" thing and what other ppl think.... you're over thinking things. It seems like most of the ppl here are just normal nice ppl so what's the problem. Sorry did I just go off on one?? I didn't mean to but ppl using the gay thing as an excuse is just ridiclous in this day an age"

Just in case you're wondering i happen to agree with you.

I definitely think the most broad minded liberal people in ireland are on here and love having the chats and banter with them that mostly proves that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I may have misinterpreted OP's post.

My bad

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By *og-Man OP   Man
over a year ago

somewhere


"I may have misinterpreted OP's post.

My bad "

No problem

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By *etite_RosyWoman
over a year ago

Now in MALAGA (SPAIN)


"I wouldn't have any problem in meeting a guy for a pint or whatever to veri him and worrying about what ppl think wouldn't even enter my head. Your not gay cause you meets a guy for a drink. Probably end up having a very interesting convo about anything and nothing to do with this place. Jeez I talk to random punters every day most of which are great little chats. Guys gotta get over this "gay" thing and what other ppl think.... you're over thinking things. It seems like most of the ppl here are just normal nice ppl so what's the problem. Sorry did I just go off on one?? I didn't mean to but ppl using the gay thing as an excuse is just ridiclous in this day an age"

Absolutely agree with you TexMex

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By *upermanslovechildMan
over a year ago

Glasnevin


"Just a thought stuck me since last week when I was asked to verify a man in jest.

Whats acceptable and unacceptable when it comes to verifications especially the all important first one especially for a man.

Why do women / couples only accept an invitation to a social meet/potential partner from someone thats verified...isnt the point of the social meet the chance to check out the person and that they click and someone else's veri is useless in that situation.

Is a veri from one man to another man say meeting for a pint in a pub to watch a match acceptable to the women/couples.

Its proves the guy exists and that he seems ok and yet men also seem not to want this in case people think they are gay ...whats that about.

In this day and age in Ireland there are a hell of a lot of single men and women seperated who crave sex with lots of other people.

Only one of these is the mythical unicorn with couples hunting high and low the other is left to their own devices

Does any of this make sense or am I talking bollox

"

Hit the nail on the head there

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

There's different approaches when it comes down to veris, the way they are regarded, interpreted and dealt with.

You will never please them all ie if you have one veri you've not enough veris, if you have over 100 some think that's too many.

Some might think you're bi or gay because you have a veri from a man, others don't mind or see it just as a social veri.

Some will meet unverified others won't, some meet social verified others only meet play verified

Some say social veris are useless others don't like too graphical play veris etc etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

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By *he Little Fuck MachineMan
over a year ago

Co.Antrim

This is the Catch 22 for me. Being new to this Site and Lifestyle I’m not Meet verified yet as I’ve not met anyone so far and majority of profiles I’ve Viewed/Read aren’t in favour of meeting someone who isn’t verified. Which obviously makes it incredibly difficult to get that first meet and get verified lol

I’m Cam verified but from what I have observed that’s not classed as legitimate verification/authenticity.

Can’t meet anyone without being verified but can’t get verified without meeting anyone

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By *og-Man OP   Man
over a year ago

somewhere


"This is the Catch 22 for me. Being new to this Site and Lifestyle I’m not Meet verified yet as I’ve not met anyone so far and majority of profiles I’ve Viewed/Read aren’t in favour of meeting someone who isn’t verified. Which obviously makes it incredibly difficult to get that first meet and get verified lol

I’m Cam verified but from what I have observed that’s not classed as legitimate verification/authenticity.

Can’t meet anyone without being verified but can’t get verified without meeting anyone "

Go through the forums...someone up the north is setting up a meet and greet for people not berified soon

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By *rmrs1234Couple
over a year ago

Waterford


"I can only speak from our perspective.. We have have very busy lives and that means that opportunities to meet are few and far between, so we need to ensure that our play partner is reliable and comfortable playing with a couple, which can be a very intimidating experience for the uninitiated.. We will only meet verified guys because the chance of a no show is less, and verified by couples unless something very interesting is on offer. It doesn't make things easy for newbies, but that's just not our problem"

same

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By *ome_wild_girlWoman
over a year ago

Antrim Town

I always meet for social first, play meet would be discussed and arranged for a date and time after that's suitable to us both as long as we got on. It never used to bother me if a guy was or wasnt meet verified, until this week, where I've had a number of guys cancel last minute. I know this can happen occasionally as circumstances can be outside peoples control, but I have limited time for socials and meets and was left with no meet and no time to arrange another in its place. I'm now considering only meeting those verified because of this.

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By *he Little Fuck MachineMan
over a year ago

Co.Antrim


"This is the Catch 22 for me. Being new to this Site and Lifestyle I’m not Meet verified yet as I’ve not met anyone so far and majority of profiles I’ve Viewed/Read aren’t in favour of meeting someone who isn’t verified. Which obviously makes it incredibly difficult to get that first meet and get verified lol

I’m Cam verified but from what I have observed that’s not classed as legitimate verification/authenticity.

Can’t meet anyone without being verified but can’t get verified without meeting anyone

Go through the forums...someone up the north is setting up a meet and greet for people not berified soon "

Thank you, much appreciated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I always meet for social first, play meet would be discussed and arranged for a date and time after that's suitable to us both as long as we got on. It never used to bother me if a guy was or wasnt meet verified, until this week, where I've had a number of guys cancel last minute. I know this can happen occasionally as circumstances can be outside peoples control, but I have limited time for socials and meets and was left with no meet and no time to arrange another in its place. I'm now considering only meeting those verified because of this. "

That's still no guarantee. Verified cancel last minute or don't show too (double booked without realising isn't unheard of).

It can simply be down to circumstances and nothing to do with being veried or not)

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By *ommando4Man
over a year ago

South Co. Dublin

What are these verification things you speak of ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

"

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all... "

To be fair I still receive messages from men/women/couples wondering why I would be so crazy to show such a terrible verification as I have done

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By *man79Man
over a year ago

newry dundalk. warrenpoint

All my verifications are lies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only meet verified guys. Doesn't bother me if they say he had a pint with another guy or a wild afternoon with a woman. It's more the fact they are a half decent person.

I have given chances to unverified guys first one stood me up. The second walked into coffee shop looked me up and down says ' no thanks your not for me" and walked straight back out.

And I always have a social meet first as the thought of thinking a guy wants to have fun with me and does what the above guy did I'd be in the river.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All my verifications are lies "

Scandalous Bman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

To be fair I still receive messages from men/women/couples wondering why I would be so crazy to show such a terrible verification as I have done "

Funny enough someone asked me about that very thing and if it was true what I said!

If not pure abuse that I've received over one you left me - it would still be on show too x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

To be fair I still receive messages from men/women/couples wondering why I would be so crazy to show such a terrible verification as I have done

Funny enough someone asked me about that very thing and if it was true what I said!

If not pure abuse that I've received over one you left me - it would still be on show too x "

Awk I feel awful hearing that!

OP, from my personal viewpoint I wouldn't have an issue displaying a verification from anyone but do admittedly only have a few chosen at the moment.

A "green tick" simply shows you are who you say you are, which for a social meet is more than enough for more women and couples than they get credit for!

For "play" meets I think it serves a single guy well to leave a verification 'trail' that others can follow and gauge for themselves if you're what they are looking for. Some, as said, don't have the time to schedule "x" amounts of socials before anything else happens so they'll prefer to know that a person has previous for what they're looking for!

Additionally, like anything else on a profile be it pictures, text etc, they can act as a filter for both sides. If someone wouldn't be comfortable meeting with a guy because he has a verification from another guy, in a social setting, then they'd have never clicked in the first place anyway

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By *ubyRidesAgainWoman
over a year ago

RebelRoad

We were all new once upon a time!

If i like the look of a profile or if something catches my eye ill go for it. Its just coffee people,

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By *attooYouMan
over a year ago

just about northside

I've had to delete all traces of my veri's because I, too, didn't want to give the wrong impression, now I have none.

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By *ndefiniteSparkMan
over a year ago

ignites minds to unite ...


"What are these verification things you speak of ?"

Must be another mythical creature in the fabuniverse.

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By *ndefiniteSparkMan
over a year ago

ignites minds to unite ...


"We were all new once upon a time!

If i like the look of a profile or if something catches my eye ill go for it. Its just coffee people, "

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By *ndefiniteSparkMan
over a year ago

ignites minds to unite ...


"This is the Catch 22 for me. Being new to this Site and Lifestyle I’m not Meet verified yet as I’ve not met anyone so far and majority of profiles I’ve Viewed/Read aren’t in favour of meeting someone who isn’t verified. Which obviously makes it incredibly difficult to get that first meet and get verified lol

I’m Cam verified but from what I have observed that’s not classed as legitimate verification/authenticity.

Can’t meet anyone without being verified but can’t get verified without meeting anyone

Go through the forums...someone up the north is setting up a meet and greet for people not berified soon "

Yes , get your ass over to the Belfast meet .

You can take my spot in the guest list , I won't be able to go , another social came up for me and I'm going there instead .

Sorry M

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all... "

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality. "

Before I hid my summary and most of my veris some messages I was getting were absolutely shocking. Opening messages like "right, I'll meet you, but we have to use condoms", "I see you're meeting a lot of people, come to my place and drain my balls"... you get the gist.

Now vast majority of my veris were from attending m&g and having lots of socials.

Some men just see the summary and make their own assumptions.

Don't have that problem Now, thankfully

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

Before I hid my summary and most of my veris some messages I was getting were absolutely shocking. Opening messages like "right, I'll meet you, but we have to use condoms", "I see you're meeting a lot of people, come to my place and drain my balls"... you get the gist.

Now vast majority of my veris were from attending m&g and having lots of socials.

Some men just see the summary and make their own assumptions.

Don't have that problem Now, thankfully "

It's funny you should say this missus because,this isn't only just from men,we have received nasty comments in reference to our coffee meet to help the Unverified, reading my verifications I never realized I was a good time Sally,(most are from m&g) the mind boggles with the jealousy from men an women on this site! But it won't deter us. So to the wonderful ladies that messaged certain people calling us all sorts,maybe you should come an say it to our faces instead of hiding behind the keyboard,we will even buy you a cup of sour cream

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By *ogladyWoman
over a year ago

The bog


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

Before I hid my summary and most of my veris some messages I was getting were absolutely shocking. Opening messages like "right, I'll meet you, but we have to use condoms", "I see you're meeting a lot of people, come to my place and drain my balls"... you get the gist.

Now vast majority of my veris were from attending m&g and having lots of socials.

Some men just see the summary and make their own assumptions.

Don't have that problem Now, thankfully

It's funny you should say this missus because,this isn't only just from men,we have received nasty comments in reference to our coffee meet to help the Unverified, reading my verifications I never realized I was a good time Sally,(most are from m&g) the mind boggles with the jealousy from men an women on this site! But it won't deter us. So to the wonderful ladies that messaged certain people calling us all sorts,maybe you should come an say it to our faces instead of hiding behind the keyboard,we will even buy you a cup of sour cream "

Most of mine are from socials god if I rode all them I would need a wheelchair.. lol

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By *og-Man OP   Man
over a year ago

somewhere

Cant believe the amount of bitterness shown to some of the women on here.

You'd need to be a right sad fucker to send anyone a cock pic unless requested and to show hostility towards someone thats polite and says no thanks...it just show why they dodged a bullet in not meeting you in the first place.

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By *ubyRidesAgainWoman
over a year ago

RebelRoad


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

Before I hid my summary and most of my veris some messages I was getting were absolutely shocking. Opening messages like "right, I'll meet you, but we have to use condoms", "I see you're meeting a lot of people, come to my place and drain my balls"... you get the gist.

Now vast majority of my veris were from attending m&g and having lots of socials.

Some men just see the summary and make their own assumptions.

Don't have that problem Now, thankfully

It's funny you should say this missus because,this isn't only just from men,we have received nasty comments in reference to our coffee meet to help the Unverified, reading my verifications I never realized I was a good time Sally,(most are from m&g) the mind boggles with the jealousy from men an women on this site! But it won't deter us. So to the wonderful ladies that messaged certain people calling us all sorts,maybe you should come an say it to our faces instead of hiding behind the keyboard,we will even buy you a cup of sour cream "

Win win situation like! Ye have the time to do this, ye will have the craic yerselves and meeting folks who need a veri, and actually getting a feel for people!! Lovin that shit lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

Before I hid my summary and most of my veris some messages I was getting were absolutely shocking. Opening messages like "right, I'll meet you, but we have to use condoms", "I see you're meeting a lot of people, come to my place and drain my balls"... you get the gist.

Now vast majority of my veris were from attending m&g and having lots of socials.

Some men just see the summary and make their own assumptions.

Don't have that problem Now, thankfully

It's funny you should say this missus because,this isn't only just from men,we have received nasty comments in reference to our coffee meet to help the Unverified, reading my verifications I never realized I was a good time Sally,(most are from m&g) the mind boggles with the jealousy from men an women on this site! But it won't deter us. So to the wonderful ladies that messaged certain people calling us all sorts,maybe you should come an say it to our faces instead of hiding behind the keyboard,we will even buy you a cup of sour cream "

I've noticed a pattern. Anyone, who tries to be positive or proactive does get shut down very quickly by some secret queens running the show in the background.

Really do hope your event is a success. Ours is coming together pretty well too.

Never lose hope in humanity xx

Meanies will come and go and it's them who'll get more wrinkles over being so darn sour in the end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

Before I hid my summary and most of my veris some messages I was getting were absolutely shocking. Opening messages like "right, I'll meet you, but we have to use condoms", "I see you're meeting a lot of people, come to my place and drain my balls"... you get the gist.

Now vast majority of my veris were from attending m&g and having lots of socials.

Some men just see the summary and make their own assumptions.

Don't have that problem Now, thankfully

It's funny you should say this missus because,this isn't only just from men,we have received nasty comments in reference to our coffee meet to help the Unverified, reading my verifications I never realized I was a good time Sally,(most are from m&g) the mind boggles with the jealousy from men an women on this site! But it won't deter us. So to the wonderful ladies that messaged certain people calling us all sorts,maybe you should come an say it to our faces instead of hiding behind the keyboard,we will even buy you a cup of sour cream

I've noticed a pattern. Anyone, who tries to be positive or proactive does get shut down very quickly by some secret queens running the show in the background.

Really do hope your event is a success. Ours is coming together pretty well too.

Never lose hope in humanity xx

Meanies will come and go and it's them who'll get more wrinkles over being so darn sour in the end "

Fair play to the ladies and missus it's a great idea. Hopefully the guys will take the opportunity and turn up. And if not sure turn it into a good night out

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By *parklySassWoman
over a year ago

Sassville


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

Before I hid my summary and most of my veris some messages I was getting were absolutely shocking. Opening messages like "right, I'll meet you, but we have to use condoms", "I see you're meeting a lot of people, come to my place and drain my balls"... you get the gist.

Now vast majority of my veris were from attending m&g and having lots of socials.

Some men just see the summary and make their own assumptions.

Don't have that problem Now, thankfully

It's funny you should say this missus because,this isn't only just from men,we have received nasty comments in reference to our coffee meet to help the Unverified, reading my verifications I never realized I was a good time Sally,(most are from m&g) the mind boggles with the jealousy from men an women on this site! But it won't deter us. So to the wonderful ladies that messaged certain people calling us all sorts,maybe you should come an say it to our faces instead of hiding behind the keyboard,we will even buy you a cup of sour cream

I've noticed a pattern. Anyone, who tries to be positive or proactive does get shut down very quickly by some secret queens running the show in the background.

Really do hope your event is a success. Ours is coming together pretty well too.

Never lose hope in humanity xx

Meanies will come and go and it's them who'll get more wrinkles over being so darn sour in the end "

Well said!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

Before I hid my summary and most of my veris some messages I was getting were absolutely shocking. Opening messages like "right, I'll meet you, but we have to use condoms", "I see you're meeting a lot of people, come to my place and drain my balls"... you get the gist.

Now vast majority of my veris were from attending m&g and having lots of socials.

Some men just see the summary and make their own assumptions.

Don't have that problem Now, thankfully

It's funny you should say this missus because,this isn't only just from men,we have received nasty comments in reference to our coffee meet to help the Unverified, reading my verifications I never realized I was a good time Sally,(most are from m&g) the mind boggles with the jealousy from men an women on this site! But it won't deter us. So to the wonderful ladies that messaged certain people calling us all sorts,maybe you should come an say it to our faces instead of hiding behind the keyboard,we will even buy you a cup of sour cream

I've noticed a pattern. Anyone, who tries to be positive or proactive does get shut down very quickly by some secret queens running the show in the background.

Really do hope your event is a success. Ours is coming together pretty well too.

Never lose hope in humanity xx

Meanies will come and go and it's them who'll get more wrinkles over being so darn sour in the end "

Thanks misses very well put xx and likewise back for yours, not that you need it

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

Before I hid my summary and most of my veris some messages I was getting were absolutely shocking. Opening messages like "right, I'll meet you, but we have to use condoms", "I see you're meeting a lot of people, come to my place and drain my balls"... you get the gist.

Now vast majority of my veris were from attending m&g and having lots of socials.

Some men just see the summary and make their own assumptions.

Don't have that problem Now, thankfully

It's funny you should say this missus because,this isn't only just from men,we have received nasty comments in reference to our coffee meet to help the Unverified, reading my verifications I never realized I was a good time Sally,(most are from m&g) the mind boggles with the jealousy from men an women on this site! But it won't deter us. So to the wonderful ladies that messaged certain people calling us all sorts,maybe you should come an say it to our faces instead of hiding behind the keyboard,we will even buy you a cup of sour cream

I've noticed a pattern. Anyone, who tries to be positive or proactive does get shut down very quickly by some secret queens running the show in the background.

Really do hope your event is a success. Ours is coming together pretty well too.

Never lose hope in humanity xx

Meanies will come and go and it's them who'll get more wrinkles over being so darn sour in the end

Thanks misses very well put xx and likewise back for yours, not that you need it

"

Both of your nights will be great. And the begrudgers can stick it where the sun don't shine x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I have just been told because all my verifications are social meets I must be just here to talk and not actually meet anyone and it's just a fantasy for me.

Thats me told

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down


"Well I have just been told because all my verifications are social meets I must be just here to talk and not actually meet anyone and it's just a fantasy for me.

Thats me told "

You just can't win. If you show your veris then there is hassle because you get how can you meet him and not me etc if you show just your social veris then they think you obviously don't meet anyone for play and are a prick tease . If you don't show your veris then you are a fake I have even been told me I have none And even the summary gets judged depending on how many and how long your recent veri was lol ya really can't win. Now anyone crap I get over my veris I ignore. People I meet if they want to see them I'll show them. I'm not ashamed of mine at all They are all nice veris by nice people.

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By *og-Man OP   Man
over a year ago

somewhere


"Well I have just been told because all my verifications are social meets I must be just here to talk and not actually meet anyone and it's just a fantasy for me.

Thats me told

You just can't win. If you show your veris then there is hassle because you get how can you meet him and not me etc if you show just your social veris then they think you obviously don't meet anyone for play and are a prick tease . If you don't show your veris then you are a fake I have even been told me I have none And even the summary gets judged depending on how many and how long your recent veri was lol ya really can't win. Now anyone crap I get over my veris I ignore. People I meet if they want to see them I'll show them. I'm not ashamed of mine at all They are all nice veris by nice people. "

In fairness Bo sure you're a nice person youself ( even if you are from cork )

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"Now any crap I get over my veris I ignore. People I meet if they want to see them I'll show them. I'm not ashamed of mine at all They are all nice veris by nice people. "

That's the only right approach.

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down


"Well I have just been told because all my verifications are social meets I must be just here to talk and not actually meet anyone and it's just a fantasy for me.

Thats me told

You just can't win. If you show your veris then there is hassle because you get how can you meet him and not me etc if you show just your social veris then they think you obviously don't meet anyone for play and are a prick tease . If you don't show your veris then you are a fake I have even been told me I have none And even the summary gets judged depending on how many and how long your recent veri was lol ya really can't win. Now anyone crap I get over my veris I ignore. People I meet if they want to see them I'll show them. I'm not ashamed of mine at all They are all nice veris by nice people.

In fairness Bo sure you're a nice person youself ( even if you are from cork )"

Hahha you're just jealous to be fair

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down


"Now any crap I get over my veris I ignore. People I meet if they want to see them I'll show them. I'm not ashamed of mine at all They are all nice veris by nice people.

That's the only right approach. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

Before I hid my summary and most of my veris some messages I was getting were absolutely shocking. Opening messages like "right, I'll meet you, but we have to use condoms", "I see you're meeting a lot of people, come to my place and drain my balls"... you get the gist.

Now vast majority of my veris were from attending m&g and having lots of socials.

Some men just see the summary and make their own assumptions.

Don't have that problem Now, thankfully

It's funny you should say this missus because,this isn't only just from men,we have received nasty comments in reference to our coffee meet to help the Unverified, reading my verifications I never realized I was a good time Sally,(most are from m&g) the mind boggles with the jealousy from men an women on this site! But it won't deter us. So to the wonderful ladies that messaged certain people calling us all sorts,maybe you should come an say it to our faces instead of hiding behind the keyboard,we will even buy you a cup of sour cream

I've noticed a pattern. Anyone, who tries to be positive or proactive does get shut down very quickly by some secret queens running the show in the background.

Really do hope your event is a success. Ours is coming together pretty well too.

Never lose hope in humanity xx

Meanies will come and go and it's them who'll get more wrinkles over being so darn sour in the end

Thanks misses very well put xx and likewise back for yours, not that you need it

Both of your nights will be great. And the begrudgers can stick it where the sun don't shine x"

Indeed they will, looking forward to galway, and I will see you in Kilkenny..can't wait xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality. "

And that's not judgemental either? Why belittle someone who may uphold a less liberal view than yourself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I have just been told because all my verifications are social meets I must be just here to talk and not actually meet anyone and it's just a fantasy for me.

Thats me told

You just can't win. If you show your veris then there is hassle because you get how can you meet him and not me etc if you show just your social veris then they think you obviously don't meet anyone for play and are a prick tease . If you don't show your veris then you are a fake I have even been told me I have none And even the summary gets judged depending on how many and how long your recent veri was lol ya really can't win. Now anyone crap I get over my veris I ignore. People I meet if they want to see them I'll show them. I'm not ashamed of mine at all They are all nice veris by nice people. "

I was just told two days ago that as I'm not verified then they wouldn't meet me. I keep mine for myself and don't collect veris. As you say Bo you can't please everyone.

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By *unnyfookMan
over a year ago

Naas


"I don't do socials, I like to meet for fun not for coffee. That's why I don't meet men who aren't play meet verified. It's part of security and safety measures."

same as this

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't do socials, I like to meet for fun not for coffee. That's why I don't meet men who aren't play meet verified. It's part of security and safety measures.

same as this"

Only done 3 or 4 socials over the years on instance of the lady. Otherwise it's play meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

Before I hid my summary and most of my veris some messages I was getting were absolutely shocking. Opening messages like "right, I'll meet you, but we have to use condoms", "I see you're meeting a lot of people, come to my place and drain my balls"... you get the gist.

Now vast majority of my veris were from attending m&g and having lots of socials.

Some men just see the summary and make their own assumptions.

Don't have that problem Now, thankfully "

Some right charming guys here alright. Expect you to be greatful as if they are doing you a favour. I had to hide my veris summary also lol

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

And that's not judgemental either? Why belittle someone who may uphold a less liberal view than yourself? "

It's funny how a simple post makes you aware of an old 'friend' who has returned, yet again with another profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

And that's not judgemental either? Why belittle someone who may uphold a less liberal view than yourself?

It's funny how a simple post makes you aware of an old 'friend' who has returned, yet again with another profile. "

Some never leave, some leave and return and find little has changed.

But seriously did you not see the judgemental irony? You'd have been one often complaining of the judgemental attitude.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

And that's not judgemental either? Why belittle someone who may uphold a less liberal view than yourself?

It's funny how a simple post makes you aware of an old 'friend' who has returned, yet again with another profile.

Some never leave, some leave and return and find little has changed.

But seriously did you not see the judgemental irony? You'd have been one often complaining of the judgemental attitude."

Sure you could see it that way, if you pull it out of context like you do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

And that's not judgemental either? Why belittle someone who may uphold a less liberal view than yourself?

It's funny how a simple post makes you aware of an old 'friend' who has returned, yet again with another profile.

Some never leave, some leave and return and find little has changed.

But seriously did you not see the judgemental irony? You'd have been one often complaining of the judgemental attitude.

Sure you could see it that way, if you pull it out of context like you do. "

Think the language showed it and belittling their difference if opinion. My bad if calling others narrow-minded and judgemental and not as sexually liberated as others not being judgemental. If I'm wrong then I apologise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you see a kid getting bullied, so you start bullying the bully, so who's the biggest bully?

What if someone starts bullying you for bullying a bully?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you see a kid getting bullied, so you start bullying the bully, so who's the biggest bully?

What if someone starts bullying you for bullying a bully?

"

No... But if you see a kid getting bullied do you say something or just watch and applaud?

I'll say something whether popular or not.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"When I get a text I look at their profile if the veri summary has more than women and couples I move on.

I know they could be just social meets but usually I don't have the time to read everything so just move on.

Men are the same. They don't read veris, they just look at the summary and if they see a lot of meet veris of any kind - you're automatically a town bike who puts out for everyone and address you like one in their message. Fact that most of the meet veris are social is irrelevant. Nobody has time to read them all...

I never got the impression of being regarded as a Just Eat Dublinbike. Then again I don't and never have displayed my meet score summary, nobody's business but mine. If someone has an issue with the amount of people you've met or the amount of veris you have, they're not worth meeting imo. There's too many narrow-minded judgemental peeps on here, that haven't themselves sexually liberated yet and desperately clutch onto their encrusted outdated outlooks of a woman's virtue or a man's sexuality.

And that's not judgemental either? Why belittle someone who may uphold a less liberal view than yourself?

It's funny how a simple post makes you aware of an old 'friend' who has returned, yet again with another profile.

Some never leave, some leave and return and find little has changed.

But seriously did you not see the judgemental irony? You'd have been one often complaining of the judgemental attitude.

Sure you could see it that way, if you pull it out of context like you do.

Think the language showed it and belittling their difference if opinion. My bad if calling others narrow-minded and judgemental and not as sexually liberated as others not being judgemental. If I'm wrong then I apologise."

You're pulling one sentence out of context and turn the offender into the victim. Well done! So do I have to assume you think it's right to insult people based on their amount of veris? It has very little to do with disrespecting their beliefs when they display a derogatory attitude in the first place but calling them out on their disrespectful behaviour.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Ah yeah forgot: just tell me what their beliefs are? Ideally in context this time.

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