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"As far as we thought it was pretty much open to everything but no penetrative sex with other partners only full sex with your own partner . But could be wrong ![]() Every couple / person is different..the joys of getting the details discussed before the meet so everyone is on the same page and all are happy with the terms ![]() | |||
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"As far as we thought it was pretty much open to everything but no penetrative sex with other partners only full sex with your own partner . But could be wrong ![]() Yeah we are soft swap and there’s no penetration with others, goes as far as oral sex basically. I find kissing intimate and romantic so we don’t kiss others , I don’t find my fellas dick in someone’s mouth intimate or romantic haha | |||
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"As far as we thought it was pretty much open to everything but no penetrative sex with other partners only full sex with your own partner . But could be wrong ![]() It's no fun without kissing . ![]() ![]() | |||
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"As far as we thought it was pretty much open to everything but no penetrative sex with other partners only full sex with your own partner . But could be wrong ![]() Our understanding too... It's very erotic and pleasurable without the pressure of getting straight down to sex... | |||
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"As far as we thought it was pretty much open to everything but no penetrative sex with other partners only full sex with your own partner . But could be wrong ![]() ![]() ![]() Same here... we have soft swing on our profile but couldn’t imagine any play without kissing ![]() | |||
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"As far as we thought it was pretty much open to everything but no penetrative sex with other partners only full sex with your own partner . But could be wrong ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You need a bit of kissing!! | |||
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"As far as we thought it was pretty much open to everything but no penetrative sex with other partners only full sex with your own partner . But could be wrong ![]() That's our take on it too. | |||
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"For us, soft swap is anything except penetrative sex. I don't get why people are okay with penetration but don't allow kissing?" Exactly this ^^^ No kissing means no interest for us ![]() | |||
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"As far as we thought it was pretty much open to everything but no penetrative sex with other partners only full sex with your own partner . But could be wrong ![]() This would be our definition too but as everyone is different and has their own boundaries it's something we'd discuss beforehand. No kissing for us though and if that's a deal breaker then so be it | |||
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"For us it is no penetrating. However, anything else is OK, kissing, oral, fingers are OK. Just no cock in the pussy or ass - that's the only limit. " Yeah that's the same limit my fwb and me stick too. Witholding can be so intense ![]() | |||
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"It seems a little insulting to me to suggest someone is ok to fuck but not good enough to kiss. For us, kissing is part of foreplay. I can get that some people think kissing is an intimacy they want to save for their partner, but without it sex would be rather impersonal and awkward to me. " Again depends what people are into...there’s people on those who want to Meet for coffee dates first , those who want to make a connection, those wanting meaningful sex, those who want to date, those who don’t want to date, those looking for regular play mates, those who only meet people once for sex and nothing else, those who just want the no strings cum and go approach, it’s not insulting, it’s preferences. I can appreciate Skills and pleasure and not find the person attractive. Everyone’s different , don’t take it personally ![]() | |||
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"It seems a little insulting to me to suggest someone is ok to fuck but not good enough to kiss. For us, kissing is part of foreplay. I can get that some people think kissing is an intimacy they want to save for their partner, but without it sex would be rather impersonal and awkward to me. Again depends what people are into...there’s people on those who want to Meet for coffee dates first , those who want to make a connection, those wanting meaningful sex, those who want to date, those who don’t want to date, those looking for regular play mates, those who only meet people once for sex and nothing else, those who just want the no strings cum and go approach, it’s not insulting, it’s preferences. I can appreciate Skills and pleasure and not find the person attractive. Everyone’s different , don’t take it personally ![]() I never take things personally, I just wouldn't want to have sex with anyone I didn't find attractive enough to kiss, it's an important part of the foreplay for me. | |||
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"It seems a little insulting to me to suggest someone is ok to fuck but not good enough to kiss. For us, kissing is part of foreplay. I can get that some people think kissing is an intimacy they want to save for their partner, but without it sex would be rather impersonal and awkward to me. Again depends what people are into...there’s people on those who want to Meet for coffee dates first , those who want to make a connection, those wanting meaningful sex, those who want to date, those who don’t want to date, those looking for regular play mates, those who only meet people once for sex and nothing else, those who just want the no strings cum and go approach, it’s not insulting, it’s preferences. I can appreciate Skills and pleasure and not find the person attractive. Everyone’s different , don’t take it personally ![]() That’s fair enough, each to their own ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It seems a little insulting to me to suggest someone is ok to fuck but not good enough to kiss. For us, kissing is part of foreplay. I can get that some people think kissing is an intimacy they want to save for their partner, but without it sex would be rather impersonal and awkward to me. Again depends what people are into...there’s people on those who want to Meet for coffee dates first , those who want to make a connection, those wanting meaningful sex, those who want to date, those who don’t want to date, those looking for regular play mates, those who only meet people once for sex and nothing else, those who just want the no strings cum and go approach, it’s not insulting, it’s preferences. I can appreciate Skills and pleasure and not find the person attractive. Everyone’s different , don’t take it personally ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm a committed heterosexual myself ![]() | |||
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"As far as we thought it was pretty much open to everything but no penetrative sex with other partners only full sex with your own partner . But could be wrong ![]() That’s what was suppose to be , but now a days cpl call watchin Soft fun ,, | |||
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"For us, we do touching and oral with others, but kissing is an expression of such a deep emotional connection that we don’t MF kiss another couple. She loves to kiss a female but somehow that is completely different. Nothing to do with whether another couple is attractive enough to kiss, just a boundary of intimacy for us. " For us, intimacy is not defined by anything physical, simply by the emotional bond we share. | |||
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"For us, we do touching and oral with others, but kissing is an expression of such a deep emotional connection that we don’t MF kiss another couple. She loves to kiss a female but somehow that is completely different. Nothing to do with whether another couple is attractive enough to kiss, just a boundary of intimacy for us. " Why is kissing female to female completely different? Sure that's a nice example of double standards. | |||
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"For us, we do touching and oral with others, but kissing is an expression of such a deep emotional connection that we don’t MF kiss another couple. She loves to kiss a female but somehow that is completely different. Nothing to do with whether another couple is attractive enough to kiss, just a boundary of intimacy for us. Why is kissing female to female completely different? Sure that's a nice example of double standards." ![]() ![]() | |||
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"For us, we do touching and oral with others, but kissing is an expression of such a deep emotional connection that we don’t MF kiss another couple. She loves to kiss a female but somehow that is completely different. Nothing to do with whether another couple is attractive enough to kiss, just a boundary of intimacy for us. Why is kissing female to female completely different? Sure that's a nice example of double standards. ![]() ![]() To be fair, he didn't specify that he doesn't kiss the Male of the other couple.. | |||
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"For us, we do touching and oral with others, but kissing is an expression of such a deep emotional connection that we don’t MF kiss another couple. She loves to kiss a female but somehow that is completely different. Nothing to do with whether another couple is attractive enough to kiss, just a boundary of intimacy for us. Why is kissing female to female completely different? Sure that's a nice example of double standards." I wouldn’t into seeing my bloke kissing another bloke ![]() | |||
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"While we get the ethos behind some people’s thoughts on their boundaries, we are amazed at some reasons for ‘no kissing’. We suppose intimacy can be a precious thing..... but so is full penetrative sex (including anal), but that doesn’t seem to be a problem ![]() Yes, it's an interesting one, perhaps the fact that it's not face to face? ![]() | |||
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"Not a criticism of anyone, but does intimacy become irrelevant to some extent when you make the choice to swap, soft or otherwise?" For us, it would take away from the experience to have to start saying, no, you can't do this or that (unless of course its something you simply don't like or find painful full stop) but I'm of the mindset that if you're going to do it, embrace the experience ![]() | |||
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"Not a criticism of anyone, but does intimacy become irrelevant to some extent when you make the choice to swap, soft or otherwise? For us, it would take away from the experience to have to start saying, no, you can't do this or that (unless of course its something you simply don't like or find painful full stop) but I'm of the mindset that if you're going to do it, embrace the experience ![]() I suppose if there's boundaries being introduced for any of the people involved then it becomes more akin to a cuckold or dome/sub situation.. | |||
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"While we get the ethos behind some people’s thoughts on their boundaries, we are amazed at some reasons for ‘no kissing’. We suppose intimacy can be a precious thing..... but so is full penetrative sex (including anal), but that doesn’t seem to be a problem ![]() ![]() And as long as nobody pushes back (or thrusts forward) then it’s ok ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I understand every one has preferences but if you aren't go to kiss me you certainly won't get to fuck me " this | |||
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"For us, soft swap is anything except penetrative sex. I don't get why people are okay with penetration but don't allow kissing? Exactly this ^^^ No kissing means no interest for us ![]() Agreed ![]() | |||
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"Luckily anyone we have planned meets with have never declined us for the no kissing rule, so I’m so surprised about how some people are so no kissing no play ![]() Given that you've expressed that you dont find people attractive enough to kiss, I'm surprised that you would be surprised ![]() | |||
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"Luckily anyone we have planned meets with have never declined us for the no kissing rule, so I’m so surprised about how some people are so no kissing no play ![]() The forum is only a small subset of Fab , Fab is only a small subset of the swinging world , there is someone out there for everyone and plenty who will match your preferences | |||
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"Luckily anyone we have planned meets with have never declined us for the no kissing rule, so I’m so surprised about how some people are so no kissing no play ![]() ![]() Not “people”....Men!! I’ve not been with a man I’ve been hugely attracted to.... I’m sorry but there’s a lot of very good looking women and their fellas are just not my type. I’ve kissed and been attracted to many many women ![]() | |||
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"Luckily anyone we have planned meets with have never declined us for the no kissing rule, so I’m so surprised about how some people are so no kissing no play ![]() ![]() ![]() I suppose it also depends on your definition of intimacy, ours isn't defined by physical interaction with others. To us it's emotional. | |||
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"We are soft swap and for us its no kissing or pussy play with other man, ff play is no limit. We no it's not everyones definition of it but it's what we are looking for " So what you’re saying is no guys, females only? Or are we missing something ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We are soft swap and for us its no kissing or pussy play with other man, ff play is no limit. We no it's not everyones definition of it but it's what we are looking for " Everyone has their own do’s and don’ts. Including us ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I understand every one has preferences but if you aren't go to kiss me you certainly won't get to fuck me " I have to agree with this. Kissing is essential for me. No kissing then nothing else is going to happen it would just feel so weird and wrong. But each to their own I guess. | |||
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"We are soft swap and for us its no kissing or pussy play with other man, ff play is no limit. We no it's not everyones definition of it but it's what we are looking for So what you’re saying is no guys, females only? Or are we missing something ![]() ![]() No it's not female only, you could probably say it alot of voyeurism and exhibitionism mainly. We have played with males only and they definitely haven't complained with what they have got and done It's a choice by both of us that we dont want to go to that limit | |||
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"For us, soft swap is anything except penetrative sex. I don't get why people are okay with penetration but don't allow kissing?" Yes exactly the same here ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I understand every one has preferences but if you aren't go to kiss me you certainly won't get to fuck me " This ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I understand every one has preferences but if you aren't go to kiss me you certainly won't get to fuck me This ![]() ![]() So if one of the hottest soundest guys on here wanted to fuck you, you would turn him down because he wouldn’t kiss you? | |||
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"I understand every one has preferences but if you aren't go to kiss me you certainly won't get to fuck me This ![]() ![]() Yes I would turn him down | |||
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"I understand every one has preferences but if you aren't go to kiss me you certainly won't get to fuck me This ![]() ![]() Even if he looked like David Beckham or George Clooney? | |||
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"I understand every one has preferences but if you aren't go to kiss me you certainly won't get to fuck me This ![]() ![]() I’d prob try kissing him regardless ![]() | |||
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"I understand every one has preferences but if you aren't go to kiss me you certainly won't get to fuck me This ![]() ![]() Absolutely ![]() | |||
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"I understand every one has preferences but if you aren't go to kiss me you certainly won't get to fuck me This ![]() ![]() Yes I'd turn him down as well don't care how hot or sound he is. Kidding is where it all starts for me if he doesn't want to kiss me it goes no farther. | |||
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"Can soft swap be more erotic ?? " I think so! Everyone foreplays together and it gets hot and heavy ...and the finale is with your partner... ![]() | |||
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"I understand every one has preferences but if you aren't go to kiss me you certainly won't get to fuck me This ![]() ![]() ![]() Dead to me xx | |||
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"I understand every one has preferences but if you aren't go to kiss me you certainly won't get to fuck me This ![]() ![]() Absolutely, kissing is essential. Wether you’re full swap or soft, kissing is foreplay and assures attraction. For us the intimacy is after the meet, the excitement of reliving the experience and being together, | |||
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"So it's ok to kiss and suck another man's cock but kissing on the lips is intimate. Personally it seems strange to us, just saying." ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Can soft swap be more erotic ?? I think so! Everyone foreplays together and it gets hot and heavy ...and the finale is with your partner... ![]() Yes it sure can be but great kissing is a must ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Can soft swap be more erotic ?? I think so! Everyone foreplays together and it gets hot and heavy ...and the finale is with your partner... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Kissing is a must have ![]() ![]() | |||
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"For us, soft swap is anything except penetrative sex. I don't get why people are okay with penetration but don't allow kissing?" +1 | |||
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"Soft swap to me means no penetration. It's been interesting reading everyone's thoughts on the 'no kissing' issue, and here's my tuppence worth.... If someone doesn't want to kiss me, they're not attracted to me, and therefore nothing else is happening either. Same if I'm not attracted enough to someone to want to kiss them, nothing else is happening either. Boo wouldn't dream of asking me to even 'soft play' with someone I wasn't into so he could play with their partner, or vice versa... Where is the enjoyment in that? How could one partner happily play with one half of a couple, when they know that their own partner (someone they love) isn't even attracted enough to their half of the couple to kiss them, but will go through the motions with oral, etc, just to participate? If someone can give a reasonable answer to this, please do, as I just can't get my head around it, but am willing to listen to explanations to gain some insight and perspective as to how it might 'work' for others ![]() Agree wholeheartedly with this ![]() | |||
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"So it's ok to kiss and suck another man's cock but kissing on the lips is intimate. Personally it seems strange to us, just saying." Yes, we admit it - we are strange! ![]() | |||
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"So what I have taken from all this is that soft swap is a fucking mine field! " Yep, it brings out all sorts of fab quirks, it's quite amusing. Anyhow it doesn't affect me, each on their own as they say, but I'm not into soft, I prefer mine proper hard to sit and ride on. ![]() | |||
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"So what I have taken from all this is that soft swap is a fucking mine field! Yep, it brings out all sorts of fab quirks, it's quite amusing. Anyhow it doesn't affect me, each on their own as they say, but I'm not into soft, I prefer mine proper hard to sit and ride on. ![]() Giddy up! ![]() ![]() | |||
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