FabSwingers.com forum: New, inexperienced single men meets

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hi all and thanks for taking your time to read this.

I have been contemplating and finally getting some time to act on it.

Most women and couples complain about single guys being creeps, weirdos, no shows and just generally clueless.

Personally I believe that behind every profile, who's messages are complete rubbish, who seems too pushy, too up himself and just too creepy there's a person, a normal person who's like you and me, only completely missinformed on how and what this site is all about.

I genuinely think that most no shows happen from sheer nerves and the pressure to perform (personally I only ever had single male no shows and to only socials at that).

What if... what if there was some kind of a class/meeting held say every quarter or so where single, inexperienced, unverified guys, could get tips, talks and general education about how swinging works. Not only to get their first veri, but to get some insight into the world that is unfamiliar and let's admit very scary to them, no matter how much they talk themselves up?

I am currently working on this idea and am putting together material.

Would there be many couples or singles willing to refer such inexperienced guys to that type of course?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sainthood will follow.

Who is the patron Saint of the horn?

Thanks x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Certainly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliant idea. I'd be one of the clueless guys you mentioned lol. Just don't know what to say or do haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliant idea. I'd be one of the clueless guys you mentioned lol. Just don't know what to say or do haha

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By *rpink77Man
over a year ago

north west

good ideas you have am single swinger think the biggest problem the genuine or shall we say decent single swingers message dosent get read most of time cause couples or single girls get 100s of msgs in a day i never time waste i look at it as this if am lucky to meet someone or a couple its there sex life so you have to respect that an play by there rules lot of fakes timewasters but i think the ones that miss out are ones like me there really is quite a few kinky fun single swingers to be found on fab we just need that chance x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"good ideas you have am single swinger think the biggest problem the genuine or shall we say decent single swingers message dosent get read most of time cause couples or single girls get 100s of msgs in a day i never time waste i look at it as this if am lucky to meet someone or a couple its there sex life so you have to respect that an play by there rules lot of fakes timewasters but i think the ones that miss out are ones like me there really is quite a few kinky fun single swingers to be found on fab we just need that chance x"

Not true. Me and my better half have a couples profile which on a normal day doesn't receive any more than 5 messages. 1 of them being from people we already know and 4 of them being so bad they're not worth opening.

My single profile which I keep for forums and general banter with existing friends receives no more than 10 new messages on a normal day (new photo uploads and status updates excluded). Out of them 10 messages - 8 will say "hi how are you", 1 will say "Hi, let's chat and see how we get on", another one will say "I'm in a nearby hotel, let's meet and have some fun".

Once or twice a week someone will message me who actually have read my profile and took everything on board.

So yes, you're right women and couples do receive a lot more attention than single men, but that attention is not worth looking at because it's extremely repetitive and going completely wrong way and this is what I would absolutely love to change with actual education

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By *rpink77Man
over a year ago

north west

i agree with hi hows you ,am on hotel want some fun an so on an so on but i hear it a lot just what you have said same old shit sent an not worth opening but i do hear a lot msg 156 today maybe thoses couples or single girls are over egging it but they do get hell of lot an like you say its the same shit i tried to send you a msg on your own profile i cant that is a problem its self not for you you have a age range setting others have other settings but its another hurdle for me an thats notthing do with you your choice so i respect it think the problem is its free as well i dont pay an maybe if i had to i might an maybe that would turn away the dickheads

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely agree In person say on a night out I’ve no worries talking to girls be it flirting or just chat but via messages it’s a lot harder to show my personality lol

Sometimes saying hey how’s you is all I can think of saying lol ??

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By *he chef 45Man
over a year ago

Banbridge

Brilliant idea missus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel sorry for the guys here the sheer number of men versus women on this site means there on to nothing most of the time . But I don't think you can teach people how to behave , your either cut out for this or your not , no one's gonna hold your hand here and show you how to go about getting a ride . Nice idea but ultimately will be a disaster .just saying

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I feel sorry for the guys here the sheer number of men versus women on this site means there on to nothing most of the time . But I don't think you can teach people how to behave , your either cut out for this or your not , no one's gonna hold your hand here and show you how to go about getting a ride . Nice idea but ultimately will be a disaster .just saying "

People I have taken my time to give tips to and have treated like human beings, who I have shared my insights with so far are doing quite alright. As I said, it wouldn't be a training how to behave. It's education on what exactly this place and casual encounters are all about.

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By *iktikiCouple
over a year ago

city centre

Once or twice a week someone will message me who actually have read my profile and took everything on board.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's a great idea

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By *yeCandyDublinCouple
over a year ago

Lucan

Great idea

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

Its an interesting idea. I was gonna come here and post how it was destined to fail and that you would be lucky to get a ratio of 1 out of 20 to attend but at this stage anything that encourages single men on the scene is worthwhile.

Any recent event that we have attended or been involved with has struggled to get single men to attend, be it they are nervous or the fact the are not well liked is a serious issue.

Single men are valued and important, they are badly needed. Dont be afraid or shy, I would most certainly be willing to offer any help, both of us would, lots of couples like nothing more than to have a relaxed fun evening with a nice gentleman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would definitely be interested in such an event. Have been a around a few parties but still daunting experience at times

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By *uv2bnude3Man
over a year ago

Thurles

Fantastic idea. Go for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a guy who started on Fab as a single guy I thought my "Hi hows you" messages were sufficient to grab a girl's attention. It wasn't until i started going out with Missus and created our couples profile that i realised that my messages got drowned in a sea of the exact same messages in a girl's or couples inbox. When you see the messages coming in you kinda see how guys on Fab really need to think outside the box when it comes to that introduction message.

Strangely though your first message can be fine and then your second or third message can let you down as once yoy get a response, you go straight in with the "so wanna chat and see where it goes" message which i also see too much of. Never assume that it is ever gonna go anywhere. Just talk like u would to a friend on Facebook. Be decent. If the conversation is gonna flow then it will happen on its own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think single guys basically try to hard.

Message until they make a nuisance of themselves.

Don't take no as a reasonable answer or reply.

Be way to pushy.

Just be down right awkward.

But that's life and sometimes there's just no helping people.

Not sure if a pep talk from swingers will change a lifetime of being who you are.

I know it's hard for guys on here as the ratio of males heavily outweighs females.

Not sure what the answer to it all is but I suggest a night out in

Derry/Londonderry.

I hear the theres more female's than males up there so a few nights up there might solve some problems for the single males

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In theory its a great idea.

I think though that the guys that would be willing to use this are the ones who already end up picking up advice here and there and improve their approach on fab in an organic way anyway.

There is a large amount of guys and girls(less + unnoticed due to numbers) that will always want to simply log in and dial a ride or at least just have the thrill of chasing it. They dont care how the site might work because they jist dont want to put the time into a riding site

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great idea. I was on before and verified but left for a long time then came back.

Since coming back I paid to site and in that time not one meet and even to get a reply was a challenge.

Im not the pushy type and I am a confident professional guy. Part of the issue i believe is I am 50 now and a lot wont stretch to that age. Sad thing is I am fitter now than when I turned 40.

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By *hocko87Man
over a year ago

dublin

"Sainthood will follow.

Who is the patron Saint of the horn?

Thanks x"

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Ridiculous

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By *hocko87Man
over a year ago

dublin

Well. If guys dont take you up on this offer they dont deserve your help at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good idea.. But please make sure its not a "tips to get laid" kind of vibe.. There are a lot of very nice single men.. But there are also a good few who are not..

Sadly I have experienced first hand that reality.

Just my thoughts x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliant idea. I'm verified , by only 1 person but it still wouldn't matter. Women think your a please when you message. I'm quite confident , I can talk to girls in a bar but not on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Brilliant idea. I'm verified , by only 1 person but it still wouldn't matter. Women think your a please when you message. I'm quite confident , I can talk to girls in a bar but not on here.

But your profile is hidden and you have no picture.. That doesn't inspire confidence

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Good intention Missus, but bit patronising and a waste of time imo. If someone is into or curious about swinging as a 'life style' he/she won't need a course to get there; attending a m&g should ease you into it. If someone is here for a quick leg over only, let them work it out themselves.

Also you can't turn peeps into Cyrano De Bergeracs if it's not you, it will become obvious pretty quickly. Besides there's no generic message approach, some might like the simple 'hi, how's you today in that stiff nipple weather?' while others need a philosophical discourse of their own profile blurb as a proof that said person has read it. We're all different and diversity is needed.

Other than that approaching someone on here isn't much different than in 'real' life. Same basic rules apply, if someone doesn't get that he/she has to bear the consequences.

Finally the success of an approach is dependent on many factors and not least it needs a bit of luck.

Happy fabbing everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What has happened to the world of men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Forgot about it being hidden. Jealous ex partner .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We would be interested in helping Missus - have advised people previously and some took it on board.

Some lovely gents out there but in regards to messaging ourselves we found the fell at the first hurdle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Forgot about it being hidden. Jealous ex partner . "

Much better.. But you need an actual profile pic.. I don't answer any messages who don't have a picture... And please.. Don't put a cock pic, I don't answer those either

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By *ryst In IsoldeWoman
over a year ago

your imagination

Maybe just an etiquette tips kind of thing... A practical do's and don'ts for how to behave on meets or at events, parties, etc...

Anything else is a bit pointless, as a how to get meets course can only be given from your own perspective (more of a how to meet you than get meets in general), and if you actually wanted to meet them, you already would have. Likewise if I was _iving the course, I would be able to give fantastic advice on how to 'pull' me, but that same technique may not work on anyone else

The other side of it is... You may find yourself 'instructing' 2 lovely guys who genuinely appreciate the help, and 22 others who have no intention of using anything you tell them, but just want a veri from you so that they can go back to behaving as appallingly as they ever did, but with your name now endorsing them. You may end up regretting your altruism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got laid in 1990

go me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Forgot about it being hidden. Jealous ex partner .

Much better.. But you need an actual profile pic.. I don't answer any messages who don't have a picture... And please.. Don't put a cock pic, I don't answer those either

Thanks .

I wouldnt do the cock pic thing . I think that's just to much. Some things are meant to be left intriguing. Il sort the profile pic out xo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Forgot about it being hidden. Jealous ex partner .

Much better.. But you need an actual profile pic.. I don't answer any messages who don't have a picture... And please.. Don't put a cock pic, I don't answer those either

Thanks .

I wouldnt do the cock pic thing . I think that's just to much. Some things are meant to be left intriguing. Il sort the profile pic out xo"

There ya go.. 100% improvement already

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Single guys.. You need verifications.. Go to social.. Meet for a coffee..

I like sex, I like meeting new people but my safety is at the forefront of my mind always

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a great idea... And safety is everything

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

"As a guy who started on Fab as a single guy I thought my "Hi hows you" messages were sufficient to grab a girl's attention. It wasn't until i started going out with Missus and created our couples profile that i realised that my messages got drowned in a sea of the exact same messages in a girl's or couples inbox. When you see the messages coming in you kinda see how guys on Fab really need to think outside the box when it comes to that introduction message.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good intention Missus, but bit patronising and a waste of time imo. If someone is into or curious about swinging as a 'life style' he/she won't need a course to get there; attending a m&g should ease you into it. If someone is here for a quick leg over only, let them work it out themselves.

I was going to post something of my own, but this kind of nailed it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Single guys.. You need verifications.. Go to social.. Meet for a coffee..

I like sex, I like meeting new people but my safety is at the forefront of my mind always

Yes I totally agree safety first is main priority. I think I was a little nieve, when I was on last year as a couple's profile I didn't do any of the chatting. Face to face over a coffee is much better .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I see a few got me a bit wrong.

I'm not claiming to be some kind of "how to get laid guru", or any kind of sex expert.

What I would provide would be as Bo said general etiquette on do's and dont's and try to change general attitude and a perspective on how they view the site and people who are in it.

Most of us invite guys to socials, for a coffee or a drink and they chicken out because they... get scared or put off by the idea of meeting some sex crazed monsters who they aren't ready to meet.

I often get messages and see profiles stating how some mate referred them to here. How some mate told them about this magical place where everyone is always horny and gagging for cock and couples just invite them over to fuck the missus with no questions asked. Most likely the mate who referred them to here never met anyone himself and just read a bunch of explicit veris.

Vanilla world sees swinging as some dirty, seedy, risky place. Men coming here from vanilla world have the same attitude and that's why we end up with dick pic fuck now messages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah no i totally get you Missus.. The "I want sex now.. This is a sex site" messages and comments drive me crazy

I always reply "eh its an escort site you are looking for"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Its an interesting idea. I was gonna come here and post how it was destined to fail and that you would be lucky to get a ratio of 1 out of 20 to attend but at this stage anything that encourages single men on the scene is worthwhile.

Any recent event that we have attended or been involved with has struggled to get single men to attend, be it they are nervous or the fact the are not well liked is a serious issue.

Even if 2 out of 30 or 40 would show up - I would consider it as a success as there would be 2 more single guys, who would have some faith in humanity and self esteem restored and if they would take everything on board - they would also come out of it with a new attitude x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We would be interested in helping Missus - have advised people previously and some took it on board.

Some lovely gents out there but in regards to messaging ourselves we found the fell at the first hurdle.

That is so true. Most messages are bad not because the person sending them is bad but because they're generally clueless.

It's dissappointing for couples and singles when they chicken out in the end and I can only guess how dissappointing it is for them and their self esteem when most of their efforts are met with a deleted message and a block.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ridiculous"

Weren't you the one who was busy preaching about how couples and women are procrastinating and are lazy and ignorant to fine gents like yourself?

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By *ellboy101Man
over a year ago

cavan

"Good idea.. But please make sure its not a "tips to get laid" kind of vibe.. There are a lot of very nice single men.. But there are also a good few who are not..

Sadly I have experienced first hand that reality.

Just my thoughts x"

Well said, like all things life there are good and bad. Just with the ratio of males here it seems inevitable maybe a few more men who may need a revision in art of respect and courtesy, plus use their imagination a bit with effort.

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By *rpink77Man
over a year ago

north west

would anyone like to go for a coffee sometime ill even treat you to a bun lol x if you sugest bob an berts your paying i aint that flush (jokeing course ill pay allways the gent me) x

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

I think if fabs had a sticky post at top of the forum.

“Advice for single lads”

That would help, basic stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi all and thanks for taking your time to read this.

I have been contemplating and finally getting some time to act on it.

Most women and couples complain about single guys being creeps, weirdos, no shows and just generally clueless.

I genuinely think that most no shows happen from sheer nerves and the pressure to perform (personally I only ever had single male no shows and to only socials at that).

I am currently working on this idea and am putting together material.

Would there be many couples or singles willing to refer such inexperienced guys to that type of course? "

it's a great post and read Missus ,but they're are also guys on here that think ladies should be tripping over themselves to fuck them ,guys that nearly automatically think they are " entitled " to fuck who they want to and it'd be an honour for the lady/ ladies involved...there have been a number of topics in the forums with such guys saying it's a sex site so that's what they should be getting ...so do you think their attitude and mentality would change ? ..to be honest l don't think so as ... leopards don't change their spots ..and l do think you are fully 100% correct when you say guys may feel under pressure to perform , especially when they would have read veri's from lady's about guys they had been with ,maybe saying it was the best sex of their lives etc etc and a guy might just think .." how can l compete with that ?" So he doesn't go any further ,l know a lady that would not meet a guy if the guy has been with " stunners " previously ,l told her that it was something l could not understand but that was her way of thinking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Other than that approaching someone on here isn't much different than in 'real' life. Same basic rules apply, if someone doesn't get that he/she has to bear the consequences.

Finally the success of an approach is dependent on many factors and not least it needs a bit of luck.

Happy fabbing everyone.

I agree tbh. If it doesn't work for you. Suck it up or move on.

It's that simple really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

..plus tbh ..l actually do think ,I'm my opinion anyway ,the majority of single guys on here don't want to swing they just want to fuck ,as some of the ladies here have frequently said " some guys think it's dial a ride here ".

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hi all and thanks for taking your time to read this.

I have been contemplating and finally getting some time to act on it.

Most women and couples complain about single guys being creeps, weirdos, no shows and just generally clueless.

I genuinely think that most no shows happen from sheer nerves and the pressure to perform (personally I only ever had single male no shows and to only socials at that).

I am currently working on this idea and am putting together material.

Would there be many couples or singles willing to refer such inexperienced guys to that type of course?

100% yes, there's always guys who think they're God's gifts and wouldn't be interested in any of that. I've no interest in forcing someone to change their minds about anything.

Who I'm talking about is guys, who genuinely do want to explore the lifestyle more and find someone to show them the ropes, explain the basics, but never do as they get washed away in a sea of dicks as they become a part of that sea of dicks in desperation.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"..plus tbh ..l actually do think ,I'm my opinion anyway ,the majority of single guys on here don't want to swing they just want to fuck ,as some of the ladies here have frequently said " some guys think it's dial a ride here ". "

As a single straight man how many men's profiles do you read a day and how many men do you interact with in private messages? How do you know so well what majority of single guys are actually after?

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By *murphMan
over a year ago

drogheda

Think it would be a sensational idea I have had a few meets off here and sometimes couples don’t show up either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great idea. It's hard to get that verification under ur belt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All sounds a bit hippy-dippy to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All sounds a bit hippy-dippy to me

Deeply hippy dippy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a single straight man how many men's profiles do you read a day and how many men do you interact with in private messages? How do you know so well what majority of single guys are actually after? "
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Ok..to answer those questions in the order they were asked

None

A lot of topics on the forums present that attitude plus a lot of ladies have commented on the same throughout the forums or on their status's ..other wise l wouldn't have mentioned it tbh..l'm only saying it cause I've read it from other ladies posts, comments,or on their status

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow! The arrogance! You want to retrain men, really? Sounds a bit Marxist.

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By *eleytMan
over a year ago

holywood.

yes i saw yr post.deff think would be good.

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By *ountry Bumpkins69Couple
over a year ago

neverland

"I think it's a great idea

I think u r pretty experienced cowboy lol

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By *uniorendowedMan
over a year ago

London

Other than that approaching someone on here isn't much different than in 'real' life. Same basic rules apply, if someone doesn't get that he/she has to bear the consequences.

Finally the success of an approach is dependent on many factors and not least it needs a bit of luck.

Happy fabbing everyone.

Would have to agree with Doghunter on this one. Love the idea Misses but this site is not any different to any other dating site and if grown adults need someone to hold their hands and give the a walkthrough there is a really big issue. It’s the same in terms of the ratio of men to women and how you approach others in a club, on this site or that site and the basic principles of meeting anyone still apply. Too many of us usually just send a message while we are horny which clouds our judgment. The is really no one size fits all approach and we are all here for different reasons some to swing some to get a quick leg over and some just to chat or cam; nothing wrong with any of them. I read earlier someone saying single guys message them “I am in your local hotel come meet me” but I’ve seen the exact same whereby couples send the same type of message to get a “quick leg over” ....... and they have turned out to be really great fun meets. No one has all the answers and everyone’s different but generally just be the best real version of yourself rather than the horny version that hides behind a computer screen without thinking and we should be all good

Happy fabbing!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great idea for all the guniune guys out there but you will still get a lot of crazy people who will show up to this sort of thing. I find it hard to get a meet on her and I put it down to being that the crazy men rune it by the things they do to couples and single lady's on her and I've been told a few stories. If you are going to set up a group I would love to be involved as it will hopefully better my chances of getting to enjoy fab for what it's ment for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nice feedback and a stark contrast to what is normally circulated re single males. It’s a good idea especially when you see some of the questionable content posted on the forum/updates section. A lot of single guys are fully clued in to the expected norm on fab but it’s the unverified profile that’s the issue and makes other established users very apprehensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wow! The arrogance! You want to retrain men, really? Sounds a bit Marxist.

I dint actually think its a realistic suggestion but where exactly had the OP said they want to retrain men?

Maybe class was a poor choice of words but an educational meetibg on how swinging and the site works for guys who are actually interested in getting involved.... not exactly sinister.....

My local board game club does one monthly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely interested in this

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By *oreThanOnceMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"What if... what if there was some kind of a class/meeting held say every quarter or so where single, inexperienced, unverified guys, could get tips, talks and general education about how swinging works. Not only to get their first veri, but to get some insight into the world that is unfamiliar and let's admit very scary to them, no matter how much they talk themselves up?

I am currently working on this idea and am putting together material.

Would there be many couples or singles willing to refer such inexperienced guys to that type of course? "

Missus, what about the married or attached males, part of a Fab couple profile. Males hidden behind their female partner's pics and more often than not, behaving as "inexperienced" as some of the single guys?

You know, those kind of guys who have their female half down as Fab bi-curious and give "precious advice" on the forum to "less fortunate" single guys.

Why not save few spaces for them in your class, surely they have a thing or two to learn too?

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth

No point sending mails here anymore mostly dont get a reply..have way more luck on pof would you believe

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth

"Hi all and thanks for taking your time to read this.

I have been contemplating and finally getting some time to act on it.

Most women and couples complain about single guys being creeps, weirdos, no shows and just generally clueless.

I genuinely think that most no shows happen from sheer nerves and the pressure to perform (personally I only ever had single male no shows and to only socials at that).

I am currently working on this idea and am putting together material.

Would there be many couples or singles willing to refer such inexperienced guys to that type of course? "

This is like taking a sledge hammer to crack a walnut ..if a woman or couple is interested in somebody they will mail ..its quite simple i doubt any single man here needs to do a course in order to say no or yes..a course isnt going to improve their chances of getting some action unless of course you can see a business oportunity here..how to fleece a group of horny single males

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By *antra MassageMan
over a year ago

city

I think it's a great idea, and 'retraining' people is not a bad idea. If single guys can't get meets, and what they're doing is not working, then it's time to learn how to do it differently. However, overall, this is a couples site, and couples are doing all right, single women can have as many or as few meets as they want,.. Here's an idea.. Take a sample of, say 6,single guys under your wing, for say 3 months, tutor them,and introduce them at socials, and see how it works. Very manageable, I think.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think it's a great idea, and 'retraining' people is not a bad idea. If single guys can't get meets, and what they're doing is not working, then it's time to learn how to do it differently. However, overall, this is a couples site, and couples are doing all right, single women can have as many or as few meets as they want,.. Here's an idea.. Take a sample of, say 6,single guys under your wing, for say 3 months, tutor them,and introduce them at socials, and see how it works. Very manageable, I think. "

I was on here as a single woman and believe me I could not meet anyone I liked at any time that suited me. Maybe my standards are too high, maybe I'm asking for too much (a simple social), but fab has been and still is for me personally slim pickings, not because most men are bad, just because their approach is absolutely atrocious. Same story with a couples scenario- the amount of couples get all excited and ready to meet that elusive, trustworthy single guy, only for him to be inexperienced and have cold feet last minute.

Obviously not everyone is interested in dipping in deeper into mentality of swinging and what it involves and some will always want to treat it like a hook up site and it's okay.

I just see no harm in extending a helping hand to those who genuinely need and want it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Oh and about taking on 6 guys to babysit for 3 months, I couldn't possibly do that.

I'm lucky to spend a full day a week with my own man, nevermind spending excessive amounts of time constantly holding someone else's hand

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By *averick123123Man
over a year ago

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Interesting read

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

very interested missus

i have been on here for a few years and im starting to feel like i have lost my self esteem, but i think a few tips and help along the way would help me and so many other

great idea, i would genuinely appreciated the help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol always the single guys fault. Anyway, who's to say that your way is the way to do things? Have you all of a sudden realised some guru like ability? Or just wish to indoctrinate a fab following? Can you not see how patronising and arrogant it is? And that's to men and women who think that's a good idea. Lol what's the goal? Guys doing this will become normal, their individuality smoothed over, standardised way. Creating boring men that are impressionable and forgettable. Crap for men, their problems don't improve...crap for women, they get these week willed, easily impressed subs...women want men to be men, not boring carbon copies. It's self defeating. Worth a thought though but not every theory makes it.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"Lol always the single guys fault. Anyway, who's to say that your way is the way to do things? Have you all of a sudden realised some guru like ability? Or just wish to indoctrinate a fab following? Can you not see how patronising and arrogant it is? And that's to men and women who think that's a good idea. Lol what's the goal? Guys doing this will become normal, their individuality smoothed over, standardised way. Creating boring men that are impressionable and forgettable. Crap for men, their problems don't improve...crap for women, they get these week willed, easily impressed subs...women want men to be men, not boring carbon copies. It's self defeating. Worth a thought though but not every theory makes it."

I've to agree to some extent with fabnsafun, I prefer a proper hound over a potty trained puppy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've to agree to some extent with fabnsafun, I prefer a proper hound over a potty trained puppy.

Growls intently in your direction...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Creating boring carbon copies?

And 573 unopened messages all saying "hi how are you" in my inbox at this current moment somehow aren't carbon copies?

Who pissed in your cornflakes?

You genuinely have zero idea what I'm talking about are cocky enough to call me arrogant for genuinely wanting to help single men as well as couples and women.

Can you not see quite a large amount of men on this thread, who actually would appreciate someone showing them the ropes and at least try and see where they're going wrong instead of being deleted or blocked with no explanation.

Who said anything was single men's fault? As I said again and again and again it's the lack of education and wrong expectations.

You, my friend seem to be a lost cause when it comes to seeing a bigger picture. This is my first and last response to you in any future threads. I don't have time for people like you

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By *witchcarlosccsMan
over a year ago

dublin

Good morning, I like the idea, of meetings to meet us, welcome any suggestions about my profile. have a happy day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Creating boring carbon copies?

And 573 unopened messages all saying "hi how are you" in my inbox at this current moment somehow aren't carbon copies?

Who pissed in your cornflakes?

You genuinely have zero idea what I'm talking about are cocky enough to call me arrogant for genuinely wanting to help single men as well as couples and women.

Who said anything was single men's fault? As I said again and again and again it's the lack of education and wrong expectations.

You, my friend seem to be a lost cause when it comes to seeing a bigger picture. This is my first and last response to you in any future threads. I don't have time for people like you

Yes, it's quite evident you don't care for other opinions other than ones that agree with you. Ooooh I'm not talking to you again....boo hoo. Grow up woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great idea, I was previously on here about 2 years ago and I was well verified. I’m back and by fuck is it hard to get abit of chat going let alone a meet.

Everyone I met previously seems to be gone off Fab or are now in a couples profile and another man doesn’t suit their dynamic.

I find a lot of ladies and couples on here extremely blunt (which is good) but it doesn’t help the shy newbies. In my opinion, there is a lot of gods gift personas, for which I have absolutely no time, and saying that, there are so many good genuine couples and ladies that would give you their left one.

I hope this works out....it is hard to balance work/life and then throw in a fab social. I work weekends and it is extremely occasional that I am off a weekend.

Again OP, super idea....I shall follow this post!!

Keep it real

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Great idea, I was previously on here about 2 years ago and I was well verified. I’m back and by fuck is it hard to get abit of chat going let alone a meet.

Everyone I met previously seems to be gone off Fab or are now in a couples profile and another man doesn’t suit their dynamic.

I hope this works out....it is hard to balance work/life and then throw in a fab social. I work weekends and it is extremely occasional that I am off a weekend.

Again OP, super idea....I shall follow this post!!

Keep it real"

As you are not too far away from me here in Kildare happy to meet to give you a coffee verify to get you started.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think there are two problems

1 being trust

Which most couples and female are up against

2 there are not enough females on fab for the amount of males

So there for it fab is controlled by the females as they have the upper hand

I seen from my fb old profile the massage she got

It is a great idea but if they won’t meet alone I don’t think they will go to a meet and greet

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

I was going to post something of my own, but this kind of nailed it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Great idea, I was previously on here about 2 years ago and I was well verified. I’m back and by fuck is it hard to get abit of chat going let alone a meet.

Everyone I met previously seems to be gone off Fab or are now in a couples profile and another man doesn’t suit their dynamic.

I hope this works out....it is hard to balance work/life and then throw in a fab social. I work weekends and it is extremely occasional that I am off a weekend.

Again OP, super idea....I shall follow this post!!

Keep it real

As you are not too far away from me here in Kildare happy to meet to give you a coffee verify to get you started.

I’d love to....keep it PG

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By *ussianbabeWoman
over a year ago

Belfast

Nice one ha ha ... on your knees ..head down ... that is a training started ... ha .. cant stop laughing..

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By *ubzrMan
over a year ago

Dublin

whats wrong with a "hi how are you message" ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"whats wrong with a "hi how are you message" ?

Absolutely nothing.

Conversation has to start somewhere so hi is as good a start as any.

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By *ubzrMan
over a year ago

Dublin

agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like a good idea,

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By *p519Man
over a year ago

Cork

Good idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi all and thanks for taking your time to read this.

I have been contemplating and finally getting some time to act on it.

Most women and couples complain about single guys being creeps, weirdos, no shows and just generally clueless.

I genuinely think that most no shows happen from sheer nerves and the pressure to perform (personally I only ever had single male no shows and to only socials at that).

I am currently working on this idea and am putting together material.

Would there be many couples or singles willing to refer such inexperienced guys to that type of course? "
would this be an online class, or an actual classroom setting

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hi all and thanks for taking your time to read this.

I have been contemplating and finally getting some time to act on it.

Most women and couples complain about single guys being creeps, weirdos, no shows and just generally clueless.

I genuinely think that most no shows happen from sheer nerves and the pressure to perform (personally I only ever had single male no shows and to only socials at that).

I am currently working on this idea and am putting together material.

Would there be many couples or singles willing to refer such inexperienced guys to that type of course? would this be an online class, or an actual classroom setting "

Not an actual class as such, just a meeting with general knowledge and q&a.

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By *reentrevorMan
over a year ago

wexford

Without seeming too vulgar ; why not throw in a Bukkake party. That way you get free (I assume it will be free) advice and a verification from a willing participant at the end.

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

"Sounds like a good idea,

I’d be nervous going on my first meet I mainly put it down to my age, the thing that I’d be nervous about is if it did turn to sex would she be impressed with my performance or what if I came to early?"
I think you have actually hit the nail on the head here, this seems to be a common concern for guys and the reason they bottle it.

No need to be though, you hang out with the right couple, who know what they are doing and its never going to be an issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol "

Oh do you have competition?? Shocked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ya wee rascal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ya wee rascal

Im an angel

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol "

Sir, you don't have any competition xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol

Sir, you don't have any competition xx "

No need to be feeding thons ego.. Its big enough

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How very rude

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By *wholeLotOfRosieWoman
over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Hi all and thanks for taking your time to read this.

I have been contemplating and finally getting some time to act on it.

Most women and couples complain about single guys being creeps, weirdos, no shows and just generally clueless.

I genuinely think that most no shows happen from sheer nerves and the pressure to perform (personally I only ever had single male no shows and to only socials at that).

I am currently working on this idea and am putting together material.

Would there be many couples or singles willing to refer such inexperienced guys to that type of course? would this be an online class, or an actual classroom setting "

Why not just attend a social? Loads of experienced people to chat to for advice plus you often get a veri or two.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol

Sir, you don't have any competition xx "

Can you have two Sirs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol

Sir, you don't have any competition xx

Can you have two Sirs

Awkward

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol

Sir, you don't have any competition xx

Can you have two Sirs

Awkward

Jesus i know right

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By *oft_sexy_sweetWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

"Vanilla world sees swinging as some dirty, seedy, risky place. Men coming here from vanilla world have the same attitude and that's why we end up with dick pic fuck now messages. "

Correct, and it's a great filter. Those who want to put in the effort, learn about the community, improve their profiles and behaviour have ample opportunity to do so. The ones who don't do that, it's because they don't want to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

While well intended I like to engage with authentic individuals who are their natural selves. I do believe we should give every one a chance and have met and verified many’s a newbie. I don’t mind the ‘how are you’ messages. Only after chatting a while can you get the feel for the person at the other end of the keyboard. There are wankers and there are gentleman who are nervous and getting used to site. It soon easy to distinguish between the 2. The good ones who are here and are respectful find their way in a respectful manner. While I think single guys have a challenge on here, I fear providing training means that they act certain way to get a result but will mask their true self. Keep it real. Sure the best lessons learned is through trial and error. I respect anyone that trying on here for the right reasons. Respect is the only thing needed in my opinion and that works both ways. Respect from single guys and I have massive respect to single guys. Lilred

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi all and thanks for taking your time to read this.

I have been contemplating and finally getting some time to act on it.

Most women and couples complain about single guys being creeps, weirdos, no shows and just generally clueless.

I genuinely think that most no shows happen from sheer nerves and the pressure to perform (personally I only ever had single male no shows and to only socials at that).

I am currently working on this idea and am putting together material.

Would there be many couples or singles willing to refer such inexperienced guys to that type of course? "
I think this is a good idea, I`m a single guy, respectful and honest and always send a face pic with any messages I may send but still haven`t met anybody, maybe a bit of guidance would help, absolutely sign me up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great idea, also clueless and stumbling my way through here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

100% agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I mean no disrespect missus, and if the intentions are great then I apologise if I come across cheeky

But I think that's a terrible idea.

I also believe no matter how hard you try stress its not a get laid 101 seminar, you'll find yourself surrounded by lads looking for a bucket point routine to follow and expect play meets.

I'll get eaten alive for this.

But it's not rocket science.

Some people will fancy you some people wont.

A clear pic or two in your message will rule that one right away.

Some people have particular kinks and are looking for specific type of people.

A clear detailed bio and profile will help there.

Most profiles ACTUALLY have the words 'dont just send a dick pic or a hi how are you'

Yet they're still inundated.

Realising the other end of the message is an actual person and you have to treat them like any other person you would message or actually speak to in person.

'Wanna fuck' or 'I'd make bits of you' etc

These arent lines youd use in a bar yet I've had a couples profile here and been shown countless messages from female friends here stating exactly those type of openers.

I really think a workshop or course wont change a thing.

If someones gonna read no dick pics and attach a dick pic to their first message, you cant unteach stupid.

Persevere and hold out until you get a coffee meet.

IF your a nice person, you'll be verified as such.

This will open doors.

If your a socially awkward or rude person after your jollies then it wont go your way regardless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol

Sir, you don't have any competition xx

Can you have two Sirs

Awkward

Staying out of this one hahaha. Rose get me my popcorn lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol

Sir, you don't have any competition xx

Can you have two Sirs

Awkward

Staying out of this one hahaha. Rose get me my popcorn lol"

Yes Daddy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol

Sir, you don't have any competition xx

Can you have two Sirs

Awkward

Staying out of this one hahaha. Rose get me my popcorn lol

Yes Daddy

Haha go ahead there babygirl

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By *elle xWoman
over a year ago

Doire Theas

"Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol

Sir, you don't have any competition xx

Can you have two Sirs

Awkward

Staying out of this one hahaha. Rose get me my popcorn lol

Yes Daddy

Rose you naughty girl

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By *rgasmdonorMan
over a year ago

millstreet

"Hi all and thanks for taking your time to read this.

I have been contemplating and finally getting some time to act on it.

Most women and couples complain about single guys being creeps, weirdos, no shows and just generally clueless.

I genuinely think that most no shows happen from sheer nerves and the pressure to perform (personally I only ever had single male no shows and to only socials at that).

I am currently working on this idea and am putting together material.

Would there be many couples or singles willing to refer such inexperienced guys to that type of course? "
wow who on earth would no show when your beautiful ass is on offer

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Pass the bucket someone- pronto

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oi Missus, Theres enough competition already for us singles. Let’s not provide ammo to the new recruits

they gotta learn the hard way...like us lol

Sir, you don't have any competition xx

Can you have two Sirs

Awkward

Staying out of this one hahaha. Rose get me my popcorn lol

Yes Daddy

Good Whore x

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By *fr2015Man
over a year ago

portrush

This is a very thoughtful way to approach things. Well spoken, and showing an obvious intellect that I can only hope is motivated by kindness, I think it is though! Well done you

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By *ecentguy321Man
over a year ago

nearby

Best of luck missus. Seems a very sincere offer from a sincere place. Im sure at least 1 guy will find it helpful and thats the positive point to this

Personally iv always found socials great to learn from. Be it positive or negative!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Best of luck missus. Seems a very sincere offer from a sincere place. Im sure at least 1 guy will find it helpful and thats the positive point to this

Personally iv always found socials great to learn from. Be it positive or negative! "

Thank you! And yes, it is all coming from a sincere place.

Most people complain about this country being backwards. There is a way to change it through knowledge and education.

Shame that some see it as some kind of a training on how to pull. It most certainly won't be.

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By *ecentguy321Man
over a year ago

nearby

"Best of luck missus. Seems a very sincere offer from a sincere place. Im sure at least 1 guy will find it helpful and thats the positive point to this

Personally iv always found socials great to learn from. Be it positive or negative!

Thank you! And yes, it is all coming from a sincere place.

Most people complain about this country being backwards. There is a way to change it through knowledge and education.

Shame that some see it as some kind of a training on how to pull. It most certainly won't be. "

This countries backwards because the church has educated us that sex is a dirty thing!

Burn the churches!!!! Thats my solution

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would be all over this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You would get very fed up sending endless messages for no reply.thats whats its like here on f/ s,s for single males .it seems to me female,s .complain alot about the type of one line messages they keep reciving. There ,s two sides to every story. Single men get no reply,s to messages sent. Single wemon get shit loads of mail and dont send any messages. I know people it sucks. But at least we all have one thing in common. Sex ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Best of luck missus. Seems a very sincere offer from a sincere place. Im sure at least 1 guy will find it helpful and thats the positive point to this

Personally iv always found socials great to learn from. Be it positive or negative!

Thank you! And yes, it is all coming from a sincere place.

Most people complain about this country being backwards. There is a way to change it through knowledge and education.

Shame that some see it as some kind of a training on how to pull. It most certainly won't be.

This countries backwards because the church has educated us that sex is a dirty thing!

Burn the churches!!!! Thats my solution"

I'll be the first one holding the torch.

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin

"Best of luck missus. Seems a very sincere offer from a sincere place. Im sure at least 1 guy will find it helpful and thats the positive point to this

Personally iv always found socials great to learn from. Be it positive or negative!

Thank you! And yes, it is all coming from a sincere place.

Most people complain about this country being backwards. There is a way to change it through knowledge and education.

Shame that some see it as some kind of a training on how to pull. It most certainly won't be.

This countries backwards because the church has educated us that sex is a dirty thing!

Burn the churches!!!! Thats my solution

I'll be the first one holding the torch. "

Standing behind you with a zippo

Well done on your thread/initiative too Missus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a wonderful thread this is turning out to be. Men need training, we're all backward in this country, burn churches, take away free speech and religious freedom.....why? I don't know....sorry, what was that?......entitled millennial? Ah right....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I all about helping people here and _iving advice over a coffee. It's difficult starting out here. I have given plenty of first verifys over coffee. I reached out to someone here on this thread to give a first verify over coffee today. But no sign of him and he's left the site. What really pisses me off is that this is second Monday in a row this has happened. It really is starting to put me off helping people here. As a working single Mammy I don't have much time so it annoys me so much when people waste my precious time.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I all about helping people here and _iving advice over a coffee. It's difficult starting out here. I have given plenty of first verifys over coffee. I reached out to someone here on this thread to give a first verify over coffee today. But no sign of him and he's left the site. What really pisses me off is that this is second Monday in a row this has happened. It really is starting to put me off helping people here. As a working single Mammy I don't have much time so it annoys me so much when people waste my precious time."

I feel you. And you just hit the nail on a head as it happened to me countless times too hence me wanting to offer it as a group thing rather than 1 to 1.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was going to write in more detail, with reasons etc but to be honest. I think this idea is nonsense. Personally, i wouldn't demean myself by having someone tell me how to behave and act on the site. If anyone is unsure how to conduct themselves in a civil manner, then i would suggest you don't waste any more of your precious time, that you all keep highlighting. However, on the other hand, one of Fab's favourite phrases....f*ck it, each to their own. Enjoy trainig BOYS

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By *he SophisticatsCouple
over a year ago

Casa Del Fun

"Sainthood will follow.

Who is the patron Saint of the horn?

Thanks x"

St Lucifer??....

but then again, he had two horns

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By *ussianbabeWoman
over a year ago

Belfast

"I was going to write in more detail, with reasons etc but to be honest. I think this idea is nonsense. Personally, i wouldn't demean myself by having someone tell me how to behave and act on the site. If anyone is unsure how to conduct themselves in a civil manner, then i would suggest you don't waste any more of your precious time, that you all keep highlighting. However, on the other hand, one of Fab's favourite phrases....f*ck it, each to their own. Enjoy trainig BOYS

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I just love how certain somebody is just dying to get a reaction out of me

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm fairly confident a certain someone isn't looking for a reaction. Instead enjoys civil and interesting discourse with others about a wide variety of subjects. Although i think some certain folk are not capable of such discourse. It's a shame really, but certainly not something that person will dwell on.

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By *onedbodMan
over a year ago

co Galway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good idea, a chance for genuine single people to get veried, to meet others, and get their foot on the ladder. Everyone was a new member on here, and had to have a first meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great idea. I was on here a few years ago and there was a coffee meet draw on the forums guys girls and couples put there names in and was randomly drawn for who would meet it worked fairly well tho some single girls ended up with quite a few coffee meets but it did get a lot of guys first veri which may or may not have led on too much but helped a lot with guys nerves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great idea

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By *omtom21Man
over a year ago

Belfast

Yes there needs to be something on peoples profiles if they’re reliable and not time wasters. Too many time wasters and Fake profiles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes there needs to be something on peoples profiles if they’re reliable and not time wasters. Too many time wasters and Fake profiles"

Like a verification system òr something

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By *ornycplebelfastCouple
over a year ago

belfast

Such a great idea. We’ve all been new at some point. And some find it hard.

Guys may talk the talk. But really we’re boys at heart and shit ourselves when it’s something new.

Now if I could get an Asian meet up. Lol.

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By *ay-NWMan
over a year ago

Derry

Think this is a great idea. As I never know how to attend social events and don't really want to show up by my self. I find it difficult to send a message as you dont want to send a crap message as your trying to catch their attention .

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By *wholeLotOfRosieWoman
over a year ago

Pontypridd

Yes there needs to be something on peoples profiles if they’re reliable and not time wasters. Too many time wasters and Fake profiles"

How do you define a time waster or a fake?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread is certainly a good read . I can’t remember who mentioned it but it’s something I try to do when messaging a woman is to talk to them as if I was in front of them , standing in a bar or across the table having a coffee . Certainly wouldn’t blab out “fancy a f**k” or something like that . It’s worked pretty well for me as I find the more you act natural, simply talk , the more a women feels relaxed about you and will open up about other things we are interested in , and the social meet will happen . Good luck lads thanks my 2p’s worth . Good wee post Missus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great idea!

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By *ary-JaneWoman
over a year ago

mid ulster

If you really want to live this lifestyle research it read learn read learn. I believe you either have it or you don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread is certainly a good read . I can’t remember who mentioned it but it’s something I try to do when messaging a woman is to talk to them as if I was in front of them , standing in a bar or across the table having a coffee . Certainly wouldn’t blab out “fancy a f**k” or something like that . It’s worked pretty well for me as I find the more you act natural, simply talk , the more a women feels relaxed about you and will open up about other things we are interested in , and the social meet will happen . Good luck lads thanks my 2p’s worth . Good wee post Missus

When I have the time I sometimes reply to the low effort male messages by reminding them if you wouldn't introduce yourself to someone in a bar with your penis exposed maybe dont do it online either. Some take it on board and some piss and moan. It's one of the joys of fab.

Also in our experience single men can be quite flaky, we have struggled to get men for group socials, parties and MFM meets so OP may be on to something.

Eros

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Also in our experience single men can be quite flaky, we have struggled to get men for group socials, parties and MFM meets so OP may be on to something.

Eros "

You see I do answer almost all of my messages regardless of content but I would not lecture anyone, you only expose yourself to abuse. It works for me, I can't remember when I got last an abusive message.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And something else that some people haven't quite copped yet, the forums are public, everyone can see what you post and how you carry yourself and will make judgements accordingly. And make notes on accounts. And advise their friends.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Also in our experience single men can be quite flaky, we have struggled to get men for group socials, parties and MFM meets so OP may be on to something.

Eros "

We've had the same problem. Men being flaky.

And I genuinely believe it isn't their fault, it's the nerves, stepping into unknown, lack of reassurance and encouragement to just be themselves. Most new guys picture the whole scene as some real life mass porno shoot, where they feel the pressure to impress and perform sexually, when in real life it's the complete opposite.

Think shit mail comes from new people looking at others profiles, seeing explicit photos, reading even more explicit veris, thinking it's the norm and this is how they have to behave to fit in and start copying that. There's very far and few people, who are willing to meet unverified guys due to flakes as is.

I used to take time to type out a nice welcome message to newbies who would contact me with genuine advice on how to be a decent human being, and in most cases it was no response after, 2 weeks later same original copy pasted message they sent me before with a few dick pics attached. Those kind of people I have no interest in and I'm sure they have no interest in exploring any further than "wanna fuck" either and it's okay.

Hence me wanting to bring it out to real life and do that welcoming bit in person, ones, who show up- I'm certain it would open many doors for them as well as ourselves (couples and singles, who struggle to find decent guys, who don't flake).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely cause I use to be on this site as a couple with my ex and she done all the talking and it was her pictures up on the page and we didn't seem to have a problem meeting or chatting to people but since iv came on to it as a single fella it's completely different I think i only got to chat to one person in total every body else doesn't bother getting back to me, just about ready to give up on this site if I'm been honest cause I think I have sent everyone that's my type a message at this stage hahaha

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By *iviMan
over a year ago

Antrim

It certainly would have helped me in the beginning. Took a long time chatting in the chat rooms before anyone would meet me.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Anyone fancy a fuck?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone fancy a fuck?"

Go on so sure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone fancy a fuck?"

Oi Flaky! Are you authorised to use those words?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also in our experience single men can be quite flaky, we have struggled to get men for group socials, parties and MFM meets so OP may be on to something.

Eros

We've had the same problem. Men being flaky.

An aspect I’ve found since I’ve discovered this lifestyle is the social one . It’s becoming far more appealing than anything I quite imagined when I stuck my toe into these waters . Socials , parties getting know those who can or can not be interested in the same things you are , is the way forward for me personally

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

Also in our experience single men can be quite flaky, we have struggled to get men for group socials, parties and MFM meets so OP may be on to something.

Eros

We've had the same problem. Men being flaky.

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Ok so, i think most experienced couples on here agree that its very difficult to find single guys...

So a single guy who is nervous or shy about meeting a couple and essentially daunted by it but keen.

How about letting said single guy watch the couple with no participation required. Would that help the nerves?

Would that encourage them that its actually nothing to be worried about?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Think they would find it really horny, but stay at home having a wank thinking about it instead of showing up and feeling awkward around strangers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think they would find it really horny, but stay at home having a wank thinking about it instead of showing up and feeling awkward around strangers

That reminds me of the time I offered to give a first verify over coffee. He was totally bewildered why I wouldn't meet on a dark Winter night in my local remote woods and sit in the back of his car with my coffee and watch him wank. Ah not looking to get murdered anytime soon!

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think they would find it really horny, but stay at home having a wank thinking about it instead of showing up and feeling awkward around strangers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think they would find it really horny, but stay at home having a wank thinking about it instead of showing up and feeling awkward around strangers

Amd ye wonder why single guys have a hard time with Divas like you around Rosey...ffs just being a tourch twill be grand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think they would find it really horny, but stay at home having a wank thinking about it instead of showing up and feeling awkward around strangers

Amd ye wonder why single guys have a hard time with Divas like you around Rosey...ffs just being a tourch twill be grand"

Well I wouldn't mind meeting you on a dark night you can murder me with those eyes of yours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The reality is a single guy could be your next door neighbor image but the fact he's male the gates are already locked on him. I read more "prefer single female" on profiles. People make their minds up before getting to know someone off here. It's 50/50 effort, if one side consistently makes no effort with narrow opinions it's a dead end before it starts. Married, attached or single men what is the difference really. Same urges, they all were once single at some point yet some eventually get married etc. Does single mean dangerous individual but when you get in a relationship you're a saint?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The reality is a single guy could be your next door neighbor image but the fact he's male the gates are already locked on him. I read more "prefer single female" on profiles. People make their minds up before getting to know someone off here. It's 50/50 effort, if one side consistently makes no effort with narrow opinions it's a dead end before it starts. Married, attached or single men what is the difference really. Same urges, they all were once single at some point yet some eventually get married etc. Does single mean dangerous individual but when you get in a relationship you're a saint?"

Gotta disagree here. The gates are far from locked for singles guys on here.

Yes its easier for women, yes it requires a little time and effort.

But it is far from impossible there are loads of successful single lads in here.

In relation to the danger. Nothing is risk free but a verified couple is far less likely to be a danger than an ubverified single(male or female) account

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You see, as a single woman you always have your personal safety at the fore front of your mind... Make sure you meet somewhere public.. Make sure you park somewhere public in case he follows you etc...

I'm fit, tall and I weight train.. But I wouldn't stand much chance against a 6ft 4, 15stone man

And no.. They are definitely not saints once married lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you're worried about who's behind a profile then don't be meeting strangers of the internet. Everyone has a choice/preference, there's no respectable side to this site and the other side for strangers. Just meet in a safe environment. A meet for coffee is just that, to me there's no commitment beyond the coffee. As a single guy I may not like you in person despite the wonderful words on your profiles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you're worried about who's behind a profile then don't be meeting strangers of the internet. Everyone has a choice/preference, there's no respectable side to this site and the other side for strangers. Just meet in a safe environment. A meet for coffee is just that, to me there's no commitment beyond the coffee. As a single guy I may not like you in person despite the wonderful words on your profiles. "

100% true.. But my biggest problem came from a normal dating website. Not here..

Most single guys are lovely, normal-ish fellas.. But some are not

And as a single male, I bet you don't worry about your personal physical safety whdn you meet a lady do you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I do, you don't know what's behind someone's front door. You could walk into a very shady atmosphere. Men can be victims of attacks too. Being naked in someone's abode who you don't fully know yet is a very vulnerable position to be in for both men and women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes I do, you don't know what's behind someone's front door. You could walk into a very shady atmosphere. Men can be victims of attacks too. Being naked in someone's abode who you don't fully know yet is a very vulnerable position to be in for both men and women."

Well the difference is.. I would never go to a guys place lol

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