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"I can only speak for myself on this matter DH ,I for one don't cum easily and usually takes clitoral stimulation aswell to experience a proper orgasm .Apparently all women can squirt too ,something I'm not convinced off at all.I am all for playing with myself to put these things to the test tho !" Well you can argue that there's amost always stimulation of the clitoris involved even with intercourse as the clit doesn't just consist of the clitoris gland but reaches down to the vaginal opening like an upside down tulip. So depending on the position there's more or less friction involved, the least with doggy and probably the most with her on top. Anyhow have fun playing and enjoy. | |||
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"The more I've explored, the better I know my body and the easier I cum with a partner or on my lonesome. I definitely agree with article. I cum more quickly and intense than when younger. Finding positives in this aging lark! " This is my experience too. | |||
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"There is a whole library of literature written about this. Wilhelm Reich(a student of Jung) started the conversation in the 1920's,and others like Osho, have written and spoken about it. There are, apparently 9 kinds of orgasm available to women to experience, clitoral, vaginal, cervical, anal, and others linked to the chakras. Many of us become habituated to one kind of orgasm, as its our favourite so our brains become hard wired to feeling pleasure in this way only. So, we eventually develop fixed patterns to pleasure, and orgasm. Like, for instance we only orgasm in certain positions, in bed, with certain people, etc. The same applies to situations of sexual dysfunction, our brain and genitals are caught in a loop, so inability to reach orgasm, ED, premature ejaculation, etc are essentially caused by what's going on in our head.. Or, to put it another way, how we have trained our brain-genital connection. We can retrain our bodies, by doing things differently, often enough, so that a new experience becomes established. So, for instance, most people masturbate in private. Try doing it for 30 days with a loving witness. Most men reach orgasm with tension, try it with total relaxation(yoginis will love this) and your orgasm will feel very different.There are many more ways to change learned patterns of sexual response. So, yes, Der Spiegel is on the right track. " That's exactly what she says too, about learned patterns and retraining your body and mind by exploring new ways of self play and/or play with your partner. Thanks for this excellent post! | |||
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"Nature is funny. Many women need to retrain their mind and neural pathways in order to have a vaginal orgasm. Many men have to learn mind over matter in order to stop themselves from orgasming to quickly. There must be a reason for this?" For evolutionary reasons, it makes sense that the men who were able to finish successfully, were the ones who spread their genes. A man orgasming quickly is a success in reproduction terms, and one who took too long is risking getting interrupted/failing to finish. The female orgasm is not required in order to conceive. | |||
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"Nature is funny. Many women need to retrain their mind and neural pathways in order to have a vaginal orgasm. Many men have to learn mind over matter in order to stop themselves from orgasming to quickly. There must be a reason for this? For evolutionary reasons, it makes sense that the men who were able to finish successfully, were the ones who spread their genes. A man orgasming quickly is a success in reproduction terms, and one who took too long is risking getting interrupted/failing to finish. The female orgasm is not required in order to conceive. " There was a recent study that tested the hypothesis that the phenomenon of the female orgasm may have evolved from a mechanism for triggering ovulation. For some animals such as rabbits or camels ovulation is triggered by sex (copulation induced ovation). Although human ovulate spontaneously at a certain time during their cycle regardless of having sex or not, the hypothesis goes that the female orgasm could be a evolution of the copulation induced ovation mechanism. For more info https://www.pnas.org/content/116/41/20267 Or https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-rabbits-help-unravel-the-mystery-of-female-orgasm/ | |||
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"Two things in my humble opinion The clit is the nerve centre for everything erotic In my opinion every woman has the capability of squirting. It just depends on partner's desire to put her pleasure first together with his ability/experience in bringing her to orgasm" Squirting and vaginal orgasm aren't the same thing. | |||
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" There was a recent study that tested the hypothesis that the phenomenon of the female orgasm may have evolved from a mechanism for triggering ovulation. For some animals such as rabbits or camels ovulation is triggered by sex (copulation induced ovation). Although human ovulate spontaneously at a certain time during their cycle regardless of having sex or not, the hypothesis goes that the female orgasm could be a evolution of the copulation induced ovation mechanism. For more info https://www.pnas.org/content/116/41/20267 Or https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-rabbits-help-unravel-the-mystery-of-female-orgasm/ " I had never heard that idea before. I had wondered what the biological purpose of a female orgasm was. I had heard before that it opens the cervice and allow for the sperm to travel easier to the womb but was never 100% sure of that. The orgasm link to ovulation makes perfect sense to allow for reproduction to occur | |||
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"I really dont know enough aboutbthe subject to comment with any authority but in general terms it makes sense that you can train your body and mind to achieve physucal feats you have not previously beem able to. I do think conversations like this need to be approched with a little perspective, even with self training not everyone will achieve the results they are looking for due to a multitude of reasons. Its important to make sure these people dont feel there is something "wrong" with them." Hey you know, I know it's possible to climb Mount Everest, I don't feel there's anything wrong with me that I haven't done it | |||
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"The female orgasm....... the appendix of your sex life " Oh idk, a bit more appealing than that | |||
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"The female orgasm....... the appendix of your sex life Oh idk, a bit more appealing than that" Ya but we can all live without it | |||
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"The female orgasm....... the appendix of your sex life Oh idk, a bit more appealing than that Ya but we can all live without it " Easy for you to say!! | |||
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"Nature is funny. Many women need to retrain their mind and neural pathways in order to have a vaginal orgasm. Many men have to learn mind over matter in order to stop themselves from orgasming to quickly. There must be a reason for this? For evolutionary reasons, it makes sense that the men who were able to finish successfully, were the ones who spread their genes. A man orgasming quickly is a success in reproduction terms, and one who took too long is risking getting interrupted/failing to finish. The female orgasm is not required in order to conceive. " This is what I was leading to | |||
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"I really dont know enough aboutbthe subject to comment with any authority but in general terms it makes sense that you can train your body and mind to achieve physucal feats you have not previously beem able to. I do think conversations like this need to be approched with a little perspective, even with self training not everyone will achieve the results they are looking for due to a multitude of reasons. Its important to make sure these people dont feel there is something "wrong" with them." My thread is meant to encourage peeps to try new stuff, explore further and push limits in order to enhance pleasure, not to discompose peeps. I didn't include a guarantee for success but if you don't try you will never find out. * sings : You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you might find, you get what you need... | |||
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" My thread is meant to encourage peeps to try new stuff, explore further and push limits in order to enhance pleasure, not to discompose peeps. I didn't include a guarantee for success but if you don't try you will never find out. * sings : You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you might find, you get what you need..." No I get that. I was more refering to how these conversations can go rather than specifically your OP. Still at least it made you burst into song | |||
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"Another female orgasm theory.. vaginal contractions during orgasm can suck in the cum and allow it to penetrate deeper,and therefore more likely to meet an egg" This I agree with. Sorry but just to clarify, when you say vaginal orgasm, are you referring to the G spot (2 inches inside the vagina) or the C spot (above the cervix)? Just curious, as some ladies just refer to either as Fanny Flutters | |||
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"I don't get why this has to be so complicated, don't over think it go with the flow , usually works for me " The basic thought of the thread is anything but complicated, simply dont stop exploring your body and you might find new exciting pleasures. | |||
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"I don't get why this has to be so complicated, don't over think it go with the flow , usually works for me The basic thought of the thread is anything but complicated, simply dont stop exploring your body and you might find new exciting pleasures. " Men are less so intricate... | |||
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"I don't get why this has to be so complicated, don't over think it go with the flow , usually works for me The basic thought of the thread is anything but complicated, simply dont stop exploring your body and you might find new exciting pleasures. Men are less so intricate... " It is kore more straight forward alright but plenty of options there too to experiment. For example most have probably perfected the wank, so follow a particular pattern, try to break through it and re-invent it. | |||
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"Most Irish women deny themselves orgasm in their mind they think they dont deserve it. Psychological issues major ones. All i know is, the problem isnt with me." Unfortunately years of being told from an early age that they arent supposed to enjoy sex because god doesnt approve takes its toll on some irish women. But at least it isn't a problem for you though. | |||
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"I was seeing someone 20 years ago for a few months. She never masturbated. I didn't understand but she must have had her reasons. Surely this was very rare " Few years ago a good friend of mine told me that she doesn't masturbate, never did. I was shocked. How do you get to know your body if you never touch yourself??? Anyhow my sheer disbelief got me to put up a thread here, only to find out it's not unusual. | |||
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"The brain is a clever and also stupid thing. It is POSSIBLE to climax/orgasm by blowing on your finger, highly unlikely and will take a huge amount of training but it is possible. Imagine that though..." Not the kind of blow job im after. | |||
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"I was seeing someone 20 years ago for a few months. She never masturbated. I didn't understand but she must have had her reasons. Surely this was very rare Few years ago a good friend of mine told me that she doesn't masturbate, never did. I was shocked. How do you get to know your body if you never touch yourself??? Anyhow my sheer disbelief got me to put up a thread here, only to find out it's not unusual. " Wow wow wow. Now that is very very surprising. What reasons were given? Sure it's only natural that you'll touch yourself, like it and explore. | |||
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"I was seeing someone 20 years ago for a few months. She never masturbated. I didn't understand but she must have had her reasons. Surely this was very rare Few years ago a good friend of mine told me that she doesn't masturbate, never did. I was shocked. How do you get to know your body if you never touch yourself??? Anyhow my sheer disbelief got me to put up a thread here, only to find out it's not unusual. Wow wow wow. Now that is very very surprising. What reasons were given? Sure it's only natural that you'll touch yourself, like it and explore. " I can't fully recollect but I think she simply said it doesn't appeal to her. What further surprised me when I posted about it on the forum that there were ladies on here that had similar stances. Tried to find the thread, but can't remember the title of it. | |||
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"Some ladies will only orgasm through oral...others only through penetration...so ..." Some girls will..ooooooh...some girls won't....some girls need a lot of lovin' and some girls don't "... : " I think you missed a bit the gist of the thread | |||
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"There must be a hormonal factor at play. I have a friend who's so uninterested in sex, it's almost a chore. And has never explored herself either. She said her mother has also discussed her longstanding lack of interest. Genetics, hormones, medication, religion.... Many factors involved. " Maybe she thinks sex is just for reproduction, her biology teacher has a lot to answer for!! | |||
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"I don't get why this has to be so complicated, don't over think it go with the flow , usually works for me The basic thought of the thread is anything but complicated, simply dont stop exploring your body and you might find new exciting pleasures. Men are less so intricate... It is kore more straight forward alright but plenty of options there too to experiment. For example most have probably perfected the wank, so follow a particular pattern, try to break through it and re-invent it." Honestly, I wouldn't know where to start. | |||
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"I was seeing someone 20 years ago for a few months. She never masturbated. I didn't understand but she must have had her reasons. Surely this was very rare Few years ago a good friend of mine told me that she doesn't masturbate, never did. I was shocked. How do you get to know your body if you never touch yourself??? Anyhow my sheer disbelief got me to put up a thread here, only to find out it's not unusual. Wow wow wow. Now that is very very surprising. What reasons were given? Sure it's only natural that you'll touch yourself, like it and explore. I can't fully recollect but I think she simply said it doesn't appeal to her. What further surprised me when I posted about it on the forum that there were ladies on here that had similar stances. Tried to find the thread, but can't remember the title of it. " I've spoken to a few women of a similar nature. Never felt the need, why would you do that, it's not for me, tried it and didn't like it, that's disgusting etc. Many different reasons but the only thread I could find was traditional upbringing, old Ireland religious. Luckily for a few, I converted them but the others I had to let go on their own innocent ways | |||
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"I don't get why this has to be so complicated, don't over think it go with the flow , usually works for me The basic thought of the thread is anything but complicated, simply dont stop exploring your body and you might find new exciting pleasures. Men are less so intricate... It is kore more straight forward alright but plenty of options there too to experiment. For example most have probably perfected the wank, so follow a particular pattern, try to break through it and re-invent it. Honestly, I wouldn't know where to start. " In your head, you've to be up for it. if you haven't tried edging yet, that's one you could start with. | |||
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"There must be a hormonal factor at play. I have a friend who's so uninterested in sex, it's almost a chore. And has never explored herself either. She said her mother has also discussed her longstanding lack of interest. Genetics, hormones, medication, religion.... Many factors involved. " Sex drive is like gender, or sexuality. It is decided by hormones when your brain is developing in the womb. In order for someone to be born with a drive to have babies, someone must be born with no drive to have them. Our genetics combat this because the person with the drive will have 3/4. Being homosexual is also known to be caused in the womb, and it is something we will be able to detect in the womb, and abort a baby for, like aborting a baby for having down syndrome. Its one of the reasons I am pro life. In order to create straight women who want to have sex with men, we must create gay men who want to have sex with men. Its proven that the sisters of gay men have larger than average families. These days we allow women to be asexual if they want, there is no presure for them to stay in the village and have kids, so its more common for lots of women to just want occasianl sex, not want kids, and for the sex to be more of a way to deal with lack of intamcy and a bit of loneliness other than them actually wanting to engage in sex, and its more common now for women to want neither sex nor kids. As religion loses its sway more and more women will have less and less sex as the catholic religion promotes sex, despite what people on here say. Catholic countries always have higher birth rates than protestant countries. Catholic girls are thought of as the most sexual in countries of other faiths as they are known to want to have sex more often. Its been a stable of American films for years, the girls come out of the all girl catholic university like nymphos etc. | |||
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"I don't get why this has to be so complicated, don't over think it go with the flow , usually works for me The basic thought of the thread is anything but complicated, simply dont stop exploring your body and you might find new exciting pleasures. Men are less so intricate... It is kore more straight forward alright but plenty of options there too to experiment. For example most have probably perfected the wank, so follow a particular pattern, try to break through it and re-invent it. Honestly, I wouldn't know where to start. In your head, you've to be up for it. if you haven't tried edging yet, that's one you could start with. " I've done the wank to the death, and therein edging.....explored my body to the nth degree over the years and so at a loss for what's next, all but perhaps to experience the prostate massage. | |||
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"There must be a hormonal factor at play. I have a friend who's so uninterested in sex, it's almost a chore. And has never explored herself either. She said her mother has also discussed her longstanding lack of interest. Genetics, hormones, medication, religion.... Many factors involved. Sex drive is like gender, or sexuality. It is decided by hormones when your brain is developing in the womb. In order for someone to be born with a drive to have babies, someone must be born with no drive to have them. Our genetics combat this because the person with the drive will have 3/4. Being homosexual is also known to be caused in the womb, and it is something we will be able to detect in the womb, and abort a baby for, like aborting a baby for having down syndrome. Its one of the reasons I am pro life. In order to create straight women who want to have sex with men, we must create gay men who want to have sex with men. Its proven that the sisters of gay men have larger than average families. These days we allow women to be asexual if they want, there is no presure for them to stay in the village and have kids, so its more common for lots of women to just want occasianl sex, not want kids, and for the sex to be more of a way to deal with lack of intamcy and a bit of loneliness other than them actually wanting to engage in sex, and its more common now for women to want neither sex nor kids. As religion loses its sway more and more women will have less and less sex as the catholic religion promotes sex, despite what people on here say. Catholic countries always have higher birth rates than protestant countries. Catholic girls are thought of as the most sexual in countries of other faiths as they are known to want to have sex more often. Its been a stable of American films for years, the girls come out of the all girl catholic university like nymphos etc." ?????? Any references? What you’ve written comes across as batshit crazy. Wouldn’t even know where to start with it all..... | |||
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"?????? Any references? What you’ve written comes across as batshit crazy. Wouldn’t even know where to start with it all....." Of course. It's common knowledge at this point. A gay scientist worked on detecting homosexuality in the womb, he wanted to scientifically prove that gay people were born that way. He got to 89% accuracy, then 95% then annouced he had gotten to 99.9% the same rate as for downsyndrome and then it hit him, the test to detect downsyndrome people in the womb is only used to abort people these days, so he did something. He destroyed his research and gave up science. What we know for sure is that homosexuality is caused by estrogen levels released during specific periods of the development of the brain. We can with research detect all things like homosexuality, transgender, asexuality etc in the brain, and can refer to them as hormonal imbalances. its since been proven that if the estrogen is given to a female at the exact same dose at the exact same time she will be straight and have a large family drive. Thus there is an advantage to giving the estrogen spike. | |||
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"?????? Any references? What you’ve written comes across as batshit crazy. Wouldn’t even know where to start with it all..... Of course. It's common knowledge at this point. A gay scientist worked on detecting homosexuality in the womb, he wanted to scientifically prove that gay people were born that way. He got to 89% accuracy, then 95% then annouced he had gotten to 99.9% the same rate as for downsyndrome and then it hit him, the test to detect downsyndrome people in the womb is only used to abort people these days, so he did something. He destroyed his research and gave up science. What we know for sure is that homosexuality is caused by estrogen levels released during specific periods of the development of the brain. We can with research detect all things like homosexuality, transgender, asexuality etc in the brain, and can refer to them as hormonal imbalances. its since been proven that if the estrogen is given to a female at the exact same dose at the exact same time she will be straight and have a large family drive. Thus there is an advantage to giving the estrogen spike." So still no actual references. I see how you do things....or rather more correctly, don’t do things | |||
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"You have excelled yourself this time eyes/devil/etc. Good job. Never in the field of human endeavour has such bullshit been spouted with such confidence in 1 single post. Congratulations. Really." Thanks for saving me the bother to call that crap out!!! | |||
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"Nature is funny. Many women need to retrain their mind and neural pathways in order to have a vaginal orgasm. Many men have to learn mind over matter in order to stop themselves from orgasming to quickly. There must be a reason for this? For evolutionary reasons, it makes sense that the men who were able to finish successfully, were the ones who spread their genes. A man orgasming quickly is a success in reproduction terms, and one who took too long is risking getting interrupted/failing to finish. The female orgasm is not required in order to conceive. " Neither is the male orgasm a prerequisite for conception. | |||
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"Strictly true.. but in real world likelihood it's very unlikely to happen without actual ejaculation. Precum has very very low levels of sperm" In the real world there are many human beings walking around thanks to this unlikely occurrence | |||
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"I have changed in the last 2 years. I was never able to orgasm in a 69 position, now it takes 2 mins and intercourse is better too. Im releasing way more fluids too. Gets better with age I think." Well, I think you're correct, as any nursing home orderly will tell you, we definitely release more fluids as we get old | |||
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"I've read an interview with a sex therapist in a magazine last night (not at the hairdresser and not yellow press, but an offset magazine of the Spiegel aimed at a younger audience). Anyhow she says that every woman could experience a vaginal orgasm. Crucial bit to get there is to explore and train your body to establish the link between vagina and mind, to connect the vaginal nerves to your brain via touch and to set off sexual arousal. This means to experiment and play with your vagina and not only with your clit. In similar exercising men can learn how to overcome coming to quick, not at all etc. Thoughts? " I always thought I could do it with a U bended 2 index fingers with palm on the clit | |||
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