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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It’s a funny world that we live in ... a female teacher who slept with a student twice gets jailed for a year and two further years suspended.. I’m sure if it was a male teacher he would have received a longer sentence. I’m not making any comment on it either way but what do other people think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well best of luck to her finding a school to work in after her time in the clink is all ill say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She's practically has a life sentence! What she gonna do when she gets out. I feel sorry for her a little.

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By *eralt80Man
over a year ago

cork


"Well best of luck to her finding a school to work in after her time in the clink is all ill say. "

She has been disqualified from teaching according to the news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well best of luck to her finding a school to work in after her time in the clink is all ill say. "

She's on the sex offender list, not a teacher anymore.

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By *oseredWoman
over a year ago

Dublin


"It’s a funny world that we live in ... a female teacher who slept with a student twice gets jailed for a year and two further years suspended.. I’m sure if it was a male teacher he would have received a longer sentence. I’m not making any comment on it either way but what do other people think? "

Wrong is wrong. But actually men don't routinely get longer sentencing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The general length of sentances for convicted sexual assaults its low here in general....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The general length of sentances for convicted sexual assaults its low here in general....

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Generally in general....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The general length of sentances for convicted sexual assaults its low here in general....

Generally in general.... "

Adam Johnson got 6 years, out in 3. He got more as he would have used his celeb status to groom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The general length of sentances for convicted sexual assaults its low here in general....

Generally in general....

Adam Johnson got 6 years, out in 3. He got more as he would have used his celeb status to groom.

"

That yer man from a band? Name escapes me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The general length of sentances for convicted sexual assaults its low here in general....

Generally in general....

Adam Johnson got 6 years, out in 3. He got more as he would have used his celeb status to groom.

That yer man from a band? Name escapes me"

Soccer player, played for Sunderland at the time

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By *ronj1Man
over a year ago

Galway

Says she thought the age of consent was 16 pull the other one like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The general length of sentances for convicted sexual assaults its low here in general....

Generally in general....

Adam Johnson got 6 years, out in 3. He got more as he would have used his celeb status to groom.

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Cant really compare different countrys sentances either though really.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Was she hot? Lucky bastard if she was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Says she thought the age of consent was 16 pull the other one like "

I presume that's probably correct as the victim I don't think contradicted that.

I say if in doubt Google it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was she hot? Lucky bastard if she was. "

Yes! Smoking!

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By *adylaceWoman
over a year ago

Waterford City

To be honest. I thought the age of consent was 16 too. Not that it’s something I need to worry about. But she was in a position of power either way and was completely wrong for what she did.

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By *ronj1Man
over a year ago

Galway

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By *ronj1Man
over a year ago

Galway

She had 2 of know she's a teacher

Well her career is finished now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree she was completely in the wrong. She definetly didn't respect her position. It will follow her for the rest of her life silly girl.

I feel so sorry for her parents.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"Was she hot? Lucky bastard if she was.

Yes! Smoking!"
where were these teachers when I was in 5th year! Shocker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She should be forced to do community service! Jail isnt for her. In the same week a man with a shit tone of child porn on his P.C walks free from court! Wtf is going on with Ireland!

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By *heoldhippyMan
over a year ago

Midleton


"Says she thought the age of consent was 16 pull the other one like "

I believe it is 16 in the UK. Its 17 here

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I agree with everything that’s been said but is it not double standards to feel sorry for her .. after she was in a position of authority to the teen involved... ( I’m not suggesting that she was cohesive to him .. as most men would say it was a fantasy of theirs as a teen lad to bed a teacher) but she definitely made a very bad choice . And yes I do feel for her and her parents and the situation that they are now in for life. Basically what I’m trying to say if it was a male teacher and a female student would we be as understanding?? I doubt it.

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By *abshwingerCouple
over a year ago

dublin

I'd say the poor 16 year old lad has a sore arm from all the high fives

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Serious question. If you pulled a girl in a club and found out the next morning she was only 16, what happens if she said something about the situation? Its a serious question as I'm sure it's happened to many but nothing might come of it. I know for a fact some 16 youngones when done up and out could easily pass for 19/20. In fairness to a fella in a club, he ain't gonna turn detective when on the pull.

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By *unnyfookMan
over a year ago

Naas

the perception is men get more for it, but I would say it's similar all roun. it's the judges that give leniant sentences needs to be addressed. she is on the sex offender list and disqualified from teaching. no employer will look at her with that on her record

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"I'd say the poor 16 year old lad has a sore arm from all the high fives"
nailing ms whoever. Go you buddy. I can picture it.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"the perception is men get more for it, but I would say it's similar all roun. it's the judges that give leniant sentences needs to be addressed. she is on the sex offender list and disqualified from teaching. no employer will look at her with that on her record"
it just shows we all make mistakes in life but be careful of the ones you do make. It could ruin u.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree with everything that’s been said but is it not double standards to feel sorry for her .. after she was in a position of authority to the teen involved... ( I’m not suggesting that she was cohesive to him .. as most men would say it was a fantasy of theirs as a teen lad to bed a teacher) but she definitely made a very bad choice . And yes I do feel for her and her parents and the situation that they are now in for life. Basically what I’m trying to say if it was a male teacher and a female student would we be as understanding?? I doubt it."

Thats not what your OP said though. You specifically mentioned the length of her sentence.....

I have no pity for any 23 year old that knowingly sleeps with a 15/16 year old

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By *oxic1998Woman
over a year ago

Belfast

Its Because of her profession that it seems bad. As a teacher You enter into the education system as the irresponsible adult and have the duty of care for the student. If this happened in another profession not involving kids then it wouldn't seem as bad. You can teach from around the age of 21....that really is only 4/5 year gap between student and teacher.

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By *ara198Woman
over a year ago

maynooth

Folks did she not meet him.unknowingly in an over 18 club? Am I wrong and she thought he was of age. Then she later found out he was under age. Christ there is a serious amount of worse crimes happening than this. I am not condoning her. But ffs

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By *oxic1998Woman
over a year ago

Belfast


"Folks did she not meet him.unknowingly in an over 18 club? Am I wrong and she thought he was of age. Then she later found out he was under age. Christ there is a serious amount of worse crimes happening than this. I am not condoning her. But ffs"

If that is the case then really is it her fault? I agree about the worst crimes happening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Folks did she not meet him.unknowingly in an over 18 club? Am I wrong and she thought he was of age. Then she later found out he was under age. Christ there is a serious amount of worse crimes happening than this. I am not condoning her. But ffs

If that is the case then really is it her fault? I agree about the worst crimes happening "

There must be loads of 17 year olds having sex with 16 year olds, I presume these cases are few and far between or maybe I’m wrong

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By *ara198Woman
over a year ago

maynooth

It was what she thought consensual sex, until she learned he was 16 then it became a statutory xxx. There was a brutal gang attack in limerick 3 years ago, lady left for almost dead in her car by a 17 year old and 2 18 year olds and nothing happened. No jail time nothing. Wheres the fairness and equity in that.

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By *hors.HammerMan
over a year ago

Newbridge

Age of consent doesn't come into it if she was his teacher.

Because shes in a position of authority over a class of students it's classed as abuse of position.

If the met him in a club the club is liable. There was a case here years ago involing a taxi driver who picked a girl up from a club they had sex he mother found out and tried to take a case against him but because he met her in a club the club was held liable as the assumption was there she was over 21 as that was said clubs policy. Which they failed to uphold.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Meanwhile the student is walking about the place 10 feet tall wearing a crown

Shiver me timbers

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By *atherjackhackettMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

While the crime was labelled as defilment of a child, the judge went on to say it is very immoral and unethical for a teacher to engage with a student. So if I returned to sit my leaving would that apply

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the victim impact statement, the boy is now say he suffers from life threatening anxiety and depression because of what she done, hmmmmm

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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago

otherside of nowhere

She deserves everything she got....and the fact that she waited untill she thought he was over age shows a degree of planning and not a moment of madness....she was in a position of power and all the high fives now might be great but not sure what the long term effect will be on this child..

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"She deserves everything she got....and the fact that she waited untill she thought he was over age shows a degree of planning and not a moment of madness....she was in a position of power and all the high fives now might be great but not sure what the long term effect will be on this child.."
I know what the long term effect on me at 16 would of been.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Folks did she not meet him.unknowingly in an over 18 club? Am I wrong and she thought he was of age. Then she later found out he was under age. Christ there is a serious amount of worse crimes happening than this. I am not condoning her. But ffs"

No you have the facts slightly wrong.

She met him in a nightclub when he was 15, started a relationship and waited until his 16th birthday to have sex as thats what she believed the age of consent was... so by her own admission she knew exactly what age he was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was she hot? Lucky bastard if she was.

Yes! Smoking!"

How u know. There is a vid on porn hub saying its her in it but it bullshit.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

I thought the age of consent was 16 too. I'd say there are a lot of statuary rapists walking around without any hassle

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By *ommando4Man
over a year ago

South Co. Dublin

The lady is a convicted child abuser....she got what was coming to her.

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By *atherjackhackettMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"I thought the age of consent was 16 too. I'd say there are a lot of statuary rapists walking around without any hassle"

Ya and if an underage couple had consensual sex the guy would get done. Can anyone explain

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By *iwh01Man
over a year ago

mullingar


"Says she thought the age of consent was 16 pull the other one like "

I actually thought Male was 16 and female 17. I often wondered why the difference but I think she made a genuine mistake. Let’s be honest it’s hard to know every single law in the land fully

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By *ommando4Man
over a year ago

South Co. Dublin


"Says she thought the age of consent was 16 pull the other one like

I actually thought Male was 16 and female 17. I often wondered why the difference but I think she made a genuine mistake. Let’s be honest it’s hard to know every single law in the land fully"
with a super computer in your pocket and Google you can find out what the legal age is in 6 seconds. The lady knew what she was doing abusing a child from a position of authority. Personally I'm surprised at the leneancy of the sentence

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By *ork ClassCouple
over a year ago

Cork

Ffs she didn't kill anyone , she met him in an over 18 night club and made a mistake that has destroyed her life .

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By *oseredWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ffs she didn't kill anyone , she met him in an over 18 night club and made a mistake that has destroyed her life .

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So your happy for a 23 year old teacher to have your 16 year old son or daughter?

She met him in a night club when he was 15 but didnt have sex with him till after becase she wanted to wait till he was 16

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By *P_80Man
over a year ago

Waterford


"In the victim impact statement, the boy is now say he suffers from life threatening anxiety and depression because of what she done, hmmmmm"

Yeah I thought the same when I heard that.

Me smells a plot to get a big settlement.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

Should be fucked off a cliff with all the other child fiddlers, then line up the people who think its funny or acceptable and fuck them off the cliff next.

Anyone who reaches the age of 21 without knowing the age of consent should be castrated so that they can never have sex.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"In the victim impact statement, the boy is now say he suffers from life threatening anxiety and depression because of what she done, hmmmmm

Yeah I thought the same when I heard that.

Me smells a plot to get a big settlement."

Or seeing his mum and dad fall apart and having to go through court has made him realize hes a fucking child and what she did was disgusting?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All reminds me of the film *a time to kill" .

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By *P_80Man
over a year ago

Waterford


"In the victim impact statement, the boy is now say he suffers from life threatening anxiety and depression because of what she done, hmmmmm

Yeah I thought the same when I heard that.

Me smells a plot to get a big settlement.

Or seeing his mum and dad fall apart and having to go through court has made him realize hes a fucking child and what she did was disgusting?"

Possibly that too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I cant understand is. How can a teacher of all professions not know the age of consent in this country.

I think it was a feeble attempt to defend her actions. You would imagine the topic would have been addressed through her education and training

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By *ara198Woman
over a year ago

maynooth

Lads the age of consent changed form 16 for boys and 17 for girls to 17 for both

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

I'm not for one minute condoning what she did .I actually worked in the school .that it happened in .when it was on the news yesterday evening I asked 4 people what was the age of consent ..all said 16 ....what was a 15 yr old doing in a night club until 3am .again she was wrong .

Now he is suffering from stress and night mares ...think I can feel the department of education getting a large lawsuit and a lot of taxpayers money going mammys way ...she made a huge mistake that will affect her for the rest of her life .hope it's not cut short .we all make and have made bad decisions ..

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By *iwh01Man
over a year ago

mullingar


"Lads the age of consent changed form 16 for boys and 17 for girls to 17 for both "

When did that change

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By *P_80Man
over a year ago

Waterford


"Lads the age of consent changed form 16 for boys and 17 for girls to 17 for both "

Just goes to show that people don't know, including myself, and could easily wind up in trouble.

I remember hearing years ago that if one is 18 or over then consent is 17. But if both are under 18 then consent is 16.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"What I cant understand is. How can a teacher of all professions not know the age of consent in this country.

I think it was a feeble attempt to defend her actions. You would imagine the topic would have been addressed through her education and training "

Not really, Liberal irish people would have the age dropped to 15 if they could get their way.

They drop their 15 year old daughters off to rugby school discos to be fucked by 18/19 year old lads on the rugby team.

Sion hill was known as Pill on the Hill even 20 years ago, sending their kids off to the UK for the abortion etc.

For most in ireland the age of consent is an after thought.

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By *ara198Woman
over a year ago

maynooth

Ah now come on, you are talking about a minority there in that situation (pill on the hill) . Most people don't think the age of consent has changed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Feel sorry for her and him but a solicitor will tell you "ignorance of the law is no defence"

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By *ara198Woman
over a year ago

maynooth

I get that. I do. But ffs context is important.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Sounds like there a lot of people confused over the age of consent. Some kind of campaign should be run to educate people as that's not good. Clearly this (ex) teacher should have known. But then so should the rest of the population.

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over a year ago

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By *oxminxCouple
over a year ago

NaughtyVille *×* Laois

I hold no sympathy for the scum. She got off light serving one year and possibly even out in less. Shocking poor sentence!

She met him in a club. The lad was in 5th yr, she was teaching him ffs. She's been educated enough to know the law of the land.

Never heard such bullshit.

She's a paedophile. Glad she made the headlines, maybe the country might up and realise its not only men preying on kids.

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By *inda101TV/TS
over a year ago

near Millstreet

Was this guy her first conquest. Maybe it was mutual, some guys are more mature than others, are some girls no matter there training or age can be less mature than society expects. Just saying like.

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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago

otherside of nowhere

Not sure her confusion over the age of consent should be the issue...the fact that she was a teacher is in my opinion the bigger crime even if he was 17....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just googled it. Not as straight forward as you'd think bit she guilty all the same and was arrested at the airport.

Sexual activity

Under Section 3 of the Criminal Law (Sex Offences) Act 2006 as amended by Section 5 of the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Act 2007 it is a criminal offence to engage or attempt to engage in a sexual act with a child under 17 years of age. It is not a defence to show that the child consented to the sexual act. However, the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 recognises the reality of under age, consensual, peer relationships through the introduction of a ‘proximity of age’ defence. Under this provision, a person charged with an offence of engaging in a sexual act with a person between the ages of 15 and 17 years can use consent as a defence if the person charged is younger or is less than two years older. They must not be in authority over the child or be intimidatory or exploitative.

The consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions is required for any prosecution of a child under the age of 17 years for this offence. A girl under the age of 17 who has sexual intercourse may not be convicted of an offence on that ground alone.

It is an offence for a person in authority to engage or attempt to engage in a sexual act with a child under 18 years of age.

Also a 18 can have sex with a 17yr and won't be attested.

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

What the teacher did was 100% wrong

No excuses there, she did something stupid

and she admitted to that...

However, a parent letting their 15 year old son

attend an over 18's nightclub until 3am

...and also allowing him go to a friends house

for the night without a basic check up...

Could this be a case of...

"My poor Johnny out enjoying himself

seduced and is now scarred for life..."

Parenting skills need to be looked at here as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

What the teacher did was 100% wrong

No excuses there, she did something stupid

and she admitted to that...

However, a parent letting their 15 year old son

attend an over 18's nightclub until 3am

...and also allowing him go to a friends house

for the night without a basic check up...

Could this be a case of...

"My poor Johnny out enjoying himself

seduced and is now scarred for life..."

Parenting skills need to be looked at here as well "

Victim blaming much?

I went to a nightclub at 15.

I stayed at friends houses at 15 without a check up.

If a 23 year old woman or.man had sex with me knowing my age none of the above would have been an excuse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just seen her been called a paedophile and a kiddie fiddler on this, bit extreme,!

Come on, no comparison, those sort of sick fucks need the death penalty.

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By *oxminxCouple
over a year ago

NaughtyVille *×* Laois

Wonder would she qualify to teach in France where age of consent is now 15. Might be more up her street!

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By *oxminxCouple
over a year ago

NaughtyVille *×* Laois


"I just seen her been called a paedophile and a kiddie fiddler on this, bit extreme,!

Come on, no comparison, those sort of sick fucks need the death penalty."

I'm sorry. But I very much doubt you'd consider it extreme if you were on the receiving end of sexual abuse by a woman or a man as a child.

Fact for you, she is a sick fuck.

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By *ara198Woman
over a year ago

maynooth

Folks I just think it's a wider discussion than this. She did the wrong thing 100percent. I don't debate that.

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By *iwh01Man
over a year ago

mullingar

When I was in 5th year there was many many 17/18 year olds and that was a year before we did the LC in 6th year . Between people staying back years and transition year people are now doing there LC at an older age


"I hold no sympathy for the scum. She got off light serving one year and possibly even out in less. Shocking poor sentence!

She met him in a club. The lad was in 5th yr, she was teaching him ffs. She's been educated enough to know the law of the land.

Never heard such bullshit.

She's a paedophile. Glad she made the headlines, maybe the country might up and realise its not only men preying on kids.

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown


"

What the teacher did was 100% wrong

No excuses there, she did something stupid

and she admitted to that...

However, a parent letting their 15 year old son

attend an over 18's nightclub until 3am

...and also allowing him go to a friends house

for the night without a basic check up...

Could this be a case of...

"My poor Johnny out enjoying himself

seduced and is now scarred for life..."

Parenting skills need to be looked at here as well

Victim blaming much?

I went to a nightclub at 15.

I stayed at friends houses at 15 without a check up.

If a 23 year old woman or.man had sex with me knowing my age none of the above would have been an excuse"

---------------

If you read above ...properly you'd have seen

"No excuses there"

So, before you start assuming any victim blaming...

The point I made was simply

PARENTING SKILLS NEED

TO BE LOOKED AT HERE...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

What the teacher did was 100% wrong

No excuses there, she did something stupid

and she admitted to that...

However, a parent letting their 15 year old son

attend an over 18's nightclub until 3am

...and also allowing him go to a friends house

for the night without a basic check up...

Could this be a case of...

"My poor Johnny out enjoying himself

seduced and is now scarred for life..."

Parenting skills need to be looked at here as well

Victim blaming much?

I went to a nightclub at 15.

I stayed at friends houses at 15 without a check up.

If a 23 year old woman or.man had sex with me knowing my age none of the above would have been an excuse

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If you read above ...properly you'd have seen

"No excuses there"

So, before you start assuming any victim blaming...

The point I made was simply

PARENTING SKILLS NEED

TO BE LOOKED AT HERE...

"

The parent skills have nothing to do with the childs sexual assault.

Most 16 year olds I knew growing up went to a club at least once. And we reguarly spent nights at each others with just a call to our parents. It happens it doesnt make people bad parents.

Even bringing it into the discussion and then thinking its not deflecting blame shows a lack of understanding of what victim blaming is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What I cant understand is. How can a teacher of all professions not know the age of consent in this country.

I think it was a feeble attempt to defend her actions. You would imagine the topic would have been addressed through her education and training

Not really, Liberal irish people would have the age dropped to 15 if they could get their way.

They drop their 15 year old daughters off to rugby school discos to be fucked by 18/19 year old lads on the rugby team.

Sion hill was known as Pill on the Hill even 20 years ago, sending their kids off to the UK for the abortion etc.

For most in ireland the age of consent is an after thought."

Age of consent hasn't been an issue for me for some time.

But if I were , say in my early twenties. It surely wouldn't be an after thought. To say 'most' is extreme. Ireland has become much more liberal as whole and fast. But 15, cop on. You're legally an adult a 18 and an adult in sexual maturity in ireland.

That is the law. Be as liberal as you want in the parameters of the law.certainly in this regard.

She committed the offence and will serve her time. So she should. Not only was the offence utterly wrong , the abuse of power was worse.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"Not sure her confusion over the age of consent should be the issue...the fact that she was a teacher is in my opinion the bigger crime even if he was 17...."

Yes, that is why they want to bring in the age of consent to 18 where the person is in a position of authority. To stop teachers having sex with 17 year old students etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Already in the law!! Person in authority can't have sex with someone under 18

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By *Sparkie.Man
over a year ago

Ratoath

I think it's wrong but I dont believe it warrants a 1 year sentence, her career has been taken away.

What I cant understand is how she got a years sentence and some rapists and sex offenders receive suspended sentences for what I would consider more serious crimes with non consenting people and using force to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To say you’re not making a comment either way is wrong... you just HAVE made a comment about the scenario

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only saying that she should not be in same category as paedos or kiddies fiddler's.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"Just googled it. Not as straight forward as you'd think bit she guilty all the same and was arrested at the airport."

The age of consent has been 17 her whole entire adult life.

As far as I am aware, the age has always been 17 for both, and the 16 age limit was a loop hole due to the definition of sexual activity. If you define sexual activity as "Penetrating a vagina", and a separate offense for "Buggery or entering a mans bum", then the loop hole arises where a woman can have a younger penis enter her.

But another law of any sexual knowledge of someone under 16 would catch you if you tried it with someone younger. But in reality would carry a lesser charge.

So Men were not protected from this behavior in the law by accident. It was all cleared up, 12/13 years ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just googled it. Not as straight forward as you'd think bit she guilty all the same and was arrested at the airport.

The age of consent has been 17 her whole entire adult life.

As far as I am aware, the age has always been 17 for both, and the 16 age limit was a loop hole due to the definition of sexual activity. If you define sexual activity as "Penetrating a vagina", and a separate offense for "Buggery or entering a mans bum", then the loop hole arises where a woman can have a younger penis enter her.

But another law of any sexual knowledge of someone under 16 would catch you if you tried it with someone younger. But in reality would carry a lesser charge.

So Men were not protected from this behavior in the law by accident. It was all cleared up, 12/13 years ago."

Did you not read my whole post? The non straight forwardness is about when sex is allowed when aged 15 to 17 but only if the other partner is less than 2 years older.

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By *ork fellaMan
over a year ago

Macroom


"In the victim impact statement, the boy is now say he suffers from life threatening anxiety and depression because of what she done, hmmmmm"

And we all know that's a load of bullshit. A claim coming down the line as mammy and daddy smell money here...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He was a legend among his mates at the school.

Her name and pic all over the web, she's a good looking woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She deserves everything she got....and the fact that she waited untill she thought he was over age shows a degree of planning and not a moment of madness....."

I think this is the sinister part in the story. She was effectively grooming him from an age that she thought was illegal and waited till she thought he was of age to make her move. I.e his birthday. The fact that she got the age of consent wrong is irrelevant, she knowingly was grooming him.

If it was the fact she meet him in a club and they had sex that night. I would say something but she found out that he was not of age and kept going long after she found out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She deserves everything she got....and the fact that she waited untill she thought he was over age shows a degree of planning and not a moment of madness.....

I think this is the sinister part in the story. She was effectively grooming him from an age that she thought was illegal and waited till she thought he was of age to make her move. I.e his birthday. The fact that she got the age of consent wrong is irrelevant, she knowingly was grooming him.

If it was the fact she meet him in a club and they had sex that night. I would say something but she found out that he was not of age and kept going long after she found out "

I agree with this, she deliberately set about it despite knowing it was wrong from not just one but two aspects. She should have gotten a heavier sentence. A teacher is in a position of huge trust and influence with minors.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Lucky student

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In fairness i was 17 and my gf 16 when we first had sex and years later after we broke up her then bf was jealous and went to the guards,i was called to the garda station and told it was ok but if she was 1t i was looking at being prosecuted,was shocked to hear that but i know lots that lost their virginity earlier than that. Although i know a teacher should defo not take advantage of a young lad like that x

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In fairness i was 17 and my gf 16 when we first had sex and years later after we broke up her then bf was jealous and went to the guards,i was called to the garda station and told it was ok but if she was 1t i was looking at being prosecuted,was shocked to hear that but i know lots that lost their virginity earlier than that. Although i know a teacher should defo not take advantage of a young lad like that x"

If she was 15 x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a thought, going by reports this had been going on for a while and was not just a one night stand, is it possible that she had simply fallen in love wit him, you can’t help who you fall in love with, and when you do you only want to be with that person, again just a thought,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a thought, going by reports this had been going on for a while and was not just a one night stand, is it possible that she had simply fallen in love wit him, you can’t help who you fall in love with, and when you do you only want to be with that person, again just a thought, "

I know people that are many years apart,even a friend got pregnant at 16 and they are still together now and are grandparents and very much in love,verh tough call on all involved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a thought, going by reports this had been going on for a while and was not just a one night stand, is it possible that she had simply fallen in love wit him, you can’t help who you fall in love with, and when you do you only want to be with that person, again just a thought, "

You can't help your feelings,you do have a choice over your actions

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin


"Just a thought, going by reports this had been going on for a while and was not just a one night stand, is it possible that she had simply fallen in love wit him, you can’t help who you fall in love with, and when you do you only want to be with that person, again just a thought,

You can't help your feelings,you do have a choice over your actions"

Agreed.

It's the actions.

You're a person in a position of authority over the other person.

She waited until he was 16.

As the older person, in authority, she should have been fully aware of the facts, thus checking if 16 was the legal age.

All anyone older and without kids of their own has to do, to understand it, is change it to a work scenario.

It's then very easy to see sexual harassment in that situation.

Also, if the parents try making money out of it, they're onto a loser. They are the people in actual responsibility of the child. If he tells you he's staying with a mate, it's your parental responsibility to verify that.

If you don't, you have no recourse to the courts and can sing for any compo you might've thought you were getting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a thought, going by reports this had been going on for a while and was not just a one night stand, is it possible that she had simply fallen in love wit him, you can’t help who you fall in love with, and when you do you only want to be with that person, again just a thought,

You can't help your feelings,you do have a choice over your actions

Agreed.

It's the actions.

You're a person in a position of authority over the other person.

She waited until he was 16.

As the older person, in authority, she should have been fully aware of the facts, thus checking if 16 was the legal age.

All anyone older and without kids of their own has to do, to understand it, is change it to a work scenario.

It's then very easy to see sexual harassment in that situation.

Also, if the parents try making money out of it, they're onto a loser. They are the people in actual responsibility of the child. If he tells you he's staying with a mate, it's your parental responsibility to verify that.

If you don't, you have no recourse to the courts and can sing for any compo you might've thought you were getting. "

Thats not really how civil law works John.

Besides they would be taking a case on behalf of their son.

Use your own analogy... if it was a work place the.work performace of the employee wouldnt be relevent in a sexual harrassment suit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a thought, going by reports this had been going on for a while and was not just a one night stand, is it possible that she had simply fallen in love wit him, you can’t help who you fall in love with, and when you do you only want to be with that person, again just a thought,

You can't help your feelings,you do have a choice over your actions

Agreed.

It's the actions.

You're a person in a position of authority over the other person.

She waited until he was 16.

As the older person, in authority, she should have been fully aware of the facts, thus checking if 16 was the legal age.

All anyone older and without kids of their own has to do, to understand it, is change it to a work scenario.

It's then very easy to see sexual harassment in that situation.

Also, if the parents try making money out of it, they're onto a loser. They are the people in actual responsibility of the child. If he tells you he's staying with a mate, it's your parental responsibility to verify that.

If you don't, you have no recourse to the courts and can sing for any compo you might've thought you were getting. "

That's a kind of extraordinary pov. Parents cannot account fir their teenagers whereabouts 24/7 and to somehow imply that their son was taken advantage of (which he absolutely was) because they weren't paying attention isn't only legally irrelevant, but also ignorant and dumb.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont know the case but being a parent and woman it is not acceptable to me that anybody who works with kids and youths may cross the red tiny line.

There are certain rules we as adults should never break if there are kids involved.

Love or not - it was wrong what she had done.

We can blame parents for lack of interest what their kids do outside but hello?! We can try to control our kids 24/7 and they will do whatever they want to do only because we order them instead to talk and listen

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin


"Just a thought, going by reports this had been going on for a while and was not just a one night stand, is it possible that she had simply fallen in love wit him, you can’t help who you fall in love with, and when you do you only want to be with that person, again just a thought,

You can't help your feelings,you do have a choice over your actions

Agreed.

It's the actions.

You're a person in a position of authority over the other person.

She waited until he was 16.

As the older person, in authority, she should have been fully aware of the facts, thus checking if 16 was the legal age.

All anyone older and without kids of their own has to do, to understand it, is change it to a work scenario.

It's then very easy to see sexual harassment in that situation.

Also, if the parents try making money out of it, they're onto a loser. They are the people in actual responsibility of the child. If he tells you he's staying with a mate, it's your parental responsibility to verify that.

If you don't, you have no recourse to the courts and can sing for any compo you might've thought you were getting.

Thats not really how civil law works John.

Besides they would be taking a case on behalf of their son.

Use your own analogy... if it was a work place the.work performace of the employee wouldnt be relevent in a sexual harrassment suit"

I'm thinking, from what I saw, he's now over 18, so wouldn't he have to take the case?

I basically am saying, I don't think theres a civil case, hence money, to be had out of it.

A worse thought. If there is, she was in a state job, likely won't have a chance of paying any amount rewarded and they'd sue the State, which means we end up paying!

Now how does that fry everyones noodle?

A 16yr old gets shagged by a sexy 23yr old teacher and we pay for it

If the video I saw of her is genuine, I'll be speaking to my local TD, if they get compo!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To say you’re not making a comment either way is wrong... you just HAVE made a comment about the scenario "
I actually did about 20 comments down from the original post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a thought, going by reports this had been going on for a while and was not just a one night stand, is it possible that she had simply fallen in love wit him, you can’t help who you fall in love with, and when you do you only want to be with that person, again just a thought,

You can't help your feelings,you do have a choice over your actions

Agreed.

It's the actions.

You're a person in a position of authority over the other person.

She waited until he was 16.

As the older person, in authority, she should have been fully aware of the facts, thus checking if 16 was the legal age.

All anyone older and without kids of their own has to do, to understand it, is change it to a work scenario.

It's then very easy to see sexual harassment in that situation.

Also, if the parents try making money out of it, they're onto a loser. They are the people in actual responsibility of the child. If he tells you he's staying with a mate, it's your parental responsibility to verify that.

If you don't, you have no recourse to the courts and can sing for any compo you might've thought you were getting.

Thats not really how civil law works John.

Besides they would be taking a case on behalf of their son.

Use your own analogy... if it was a work place the.work performace of the employee wouldnt be relevent in a sexual harrassment suit

I'm thinking, from what I saw, he's now over 18, so wouldn't he have to take the case?

I basically am saying, I don't think theres a civil case, hence money, to be had out of it.

A worse thought. If there is, she was in a state job, likely won't have a chance of paying any amount rewarded and they'd sue the State, which means we end up paying!

Now how does that fry everyones noodle?

A 16yr old gets shagged by a sexy 23yr old teacher and we pay for it

If the video I saw of her is genuine, I'll be speaking to my local TD, if they get compo!"
video?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hold no sympathy for the scum. She got off light serving one year and possibly even out in less. Shocking poor sentence!

She met him in a club. The lad was in 5th yr, she was teaching him ffs. She's been educated enough to know the law of the land.

Never heard such bullshit.

She's a paedophile. Glad she made the headlines, maybe the country might up and realise its not only men preying on kids.

"

100% agree, my sentiments also

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It think this is a subject that is always going to divide opinion, it is not just black and white, there is a grey area, I suppose you only have to look at emmerdale, they had a storyline running for 6 months which was very similar to this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe she was teaching him about the birds and the bees.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hold no sympathy for the scum. She got off light serving one year and possibly even out in less. Shocking poor sentence!

She met him in a club. The lad was in 5th yr, she was teaching him ffs. She's been educated enough to know the law of the land.

Never heard such bullshit.

She's a paedophile. Glad she made the headlines, maybe the country might up and realise its not only men preying on kids.

100% agree, my sentiments also"

She's not a paedophile, the lad was 15/16.

Paedophiles are people who are attracted to pre puberty children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your views on this, a friend’s relationship started when he was 13 she was 11, young love, at one point he was 17 and she was 15, was he technically Breaking the law at this point, they are now happily married in their 30s with 4 children,

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By *oxminxCouple
over a year ago

NaughtyVille *×* Laois


"I hold no sympathy for the scum. She got off light serving one year and possibly even out in less. Shocking poor sentence!

She met him in a club. The lad was in 5th yr, she was teaching him ffs. She's been educated enough to know the law of the land.

Never heard such bullshit.

She's a paedophile. Glad she made the headlines, maybe the country might up and realise its not only men preying on kids.

100% agree, my sentiments also

She's not a paedophile, the lad was 15/16.

Paedophiles are people who are attracted to pre puberty children.

"

Thanks for your opinion on that.

The beauty about these kind of discussions are discovering the people who you do not want to converse with!

Thanks for the heads up

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By *oxyvixen99Woman
over a year ago

Newtownabbey


"I hold no sympathy for the scum. She got off light serving one year and possibly even out in less. Shocking poor sentence!

She met him in a club. The lad was in 5th yr, she was teaching him ffs. She's been educated enough to know the law of the land.

Never heard such bullshit.

She's a paedophile. Glad she made the headlines, maybe the country might up and realise its not only men preying on kids.

100% agree, my sentiments also

She's not a paedophile, the lad was 15/16.

Paedophiles are people who are attracted to pre puberty children.

"

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By *un4tooCouple
over a year ago

north cork

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your views on this, a friend’s relationship started when he was 13 she was 11, young love, at one point he was 17 and she was 15, was he technically Breaking the law at this point, they are now happily married in their 30s with 4 children, "

Pre 2017 breaking the law. However, the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 recognises the reality of under age, consensual, peer relationships through the introduction of a ‘proximity of age’ defence. Under this provision, a person charged with an offence of engaging in a sexual act with a person between the ages of 15 and 17 years can use consent as a defence if the person charged is younger or is less than two years older. They must not be in authority over the child or be intimidatory or exploitative.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"Your views on this, a friend’s relationship started when he was 13 she was 11, young love, at one point he was 17 and she was 15, was he technically Breaking the law at this point, they are now happily married in their 30s with 4 children, "

As the person above said, its not illegal now but was. I believe back when we were younger it didnt matter even if they were both underage. A 15 year old being with a 13 year old was illegal.

Thats why above I brought up the point of parents dropping 15 year old daughters off at clubs.

Its widely accepted that age of consent in Ireland is an afterthought, and for teens there is no thought at all put into it.

When I was 15 I knew a girl my age, sexually active with other guys her age. Her parents knew about it, had her on the pill, and even sent her to have an abortion once when some up and coming rugby star got her pregnant. That boys parents were happy to go in on the abortion.

Anyway she was at a kids disco, had sex with a guy about a year older. Her parents found out, but found out also where he lived. A block of flats in the city.

This was completely and totally unacceptable to them. The cops were knocking at the guys door the next day, statements were taken, He was eventually put on the sex offenders list.

The parents did it just to send a message to the boy, and to their own daughter, to stay with their own kinds.

This is how I ended up pro life, growing up around people who used abortion for mistakes.

Its why they eventually brought in the 2 year age gap defense, because the law society knew it was just being used to protect parents reputations and not to protect children.

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone ...

Look the people from the area it happened know the young man .and he is a very mature looking guy .....she was wrong and admitted it her life is destroyed .....lots of people doing lots of things that cause death and misery .and get suspended sentences. ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your views on this, a friend’s relationship started when he was 13 she was 11, young love, at one point he was 17 and she was 15, was he technically Breaking the law at this point, they are now happily married in their 30s with 4 children,

As the person above said, its not illegal now but was. I believe back when we were younger it didnt matter even if they were both underage. A 15 year old being with a 13 year old was illegal.

Thats why above I brought up the point of parents dropping 15 year old daughters off at clubs.

Its widely accepted that age of consent in Ireland is an afterthought, and for teens there is no thought at all put into it.

When I was 15 I knew a girl my age, sexually active with other guys her age. Her parents knew about it, had her on the pill, and even sent her to have an abortion once when some up and coming rugby star got her pregnant. That boys parents were happy to go in on the abortion.

Anyway she was at a kids disco, had sex with a guy about a year older. Her parents found out, but found out also where he lived. A block of flats in the city.

This was completely and totally unacceptable to them. The cops were knocking at the guys door the next day, statements were taken, He was eventually put on the sex offenders list.

The parents did it just to send a message to the boy, and to their own daughter, to stay with their own kinds.

This is how I ended up pro life, growing up around people who used abortion for mistakes.

Its why they eventually brought in the 2 year age gap defense, because the law society knew it was just being used to protect parents reputations and not to protect children."
thanks, that’s cleared it up, it is just something I wondered about, and wasn’t sure what the law was , and just to make it a little bit more complicated, there was actually a point where he was 17 and she was 14 but was turning 15 5 days later, if you understand what I mean, he was 2 years and 5 days older

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone ...

Look the people from the area it happened know the young man .and he is a very mature looking guy .....she was wrong and admitted it her life is destroyed .....lots of people doing lots of things that cause death and misery .and get suspended sentences. ..."

Definitely the most sense on this thread. Sure, sack her for shagging him, but now a criminal?? I guarantee the judge who sentenced her is much more of a criminal than she is

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


"It’s a funny world that we live in ... a female teacher who slept with a student twice gets jailed for a year and two further years suspended.. I’m sure if it was a male teacher he would have received a longer sentence. I’m not making any comment on it either way but what do other people think?

Wrong is wrong. But actually men don't routinely get longer sentencing. "

Yes they do it is a statistical fact.

If you're a convicted criminal, the best thing you can have going for you might be your gender.

A new study by Sonja Starr, an assistant law professor at the University of Michigan, found that men are given much higher sentences than women convicted of the same crimes in federal court.

The study found that men receive sentences that are 63 percent higher, on average, than their female counterparts

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


"The general length of sentances for convicted sexual assaults its low here in general....

Generally in general....

Adam Johnson got 6 years, out in 3. He got more as he would have used his celeb status to groom.

"

So her being his teacher wasn't as bad as someone being a footballer. She had day to day contact the grooming factor was significantly higher in her case. In saying that it's a load of bullshit. I remember being 16 I was no less aware than at 17

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By *lurrynfeeCouple
over a year ago

donegal

When at boarding school yrs back one off the female students was seeing a young male teacher and fell pregnant because one off his parents was vice principle she was asked to leave school and he got another job in a different school ..so whats a actually fare and unfare

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shes lost her job I'm sure many friends have dropped her and probably lost the respect of her family and shes badly let herself and everyone she cares about down.

Shes certainly not a paedophile..

Paedophilia is a person who's attracted to (theres a word but forum wont all me to post it) children..

Her crime was she was stupid and let hormones get the better of her, regardless of her/his age she was a teacher and common sense she would know she was crossing the line getting involved with a student.

Shes was 23 at the time and he was 16.

She's young and reckless and shes going to pay for the rest of her life as shes on the sex offenders list..

NOT a paedophile list as the judge insisted she isn't a danger to children.

As a parent we put trust in teachers to teach our kids, coaches to coach our kids, in a professional environment we expect professionalism from all these people who's jobs involve children.

I know many 15/16 very mature young adults, I know many parents buy them a few "cans" going out on a night out with their friends.

Sex?

Drink?

I dont feel sorry for the teacher because she knew she crossed the line regardless of him being 16 or 17.

She abused the trust of every parent with children in school.

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By *he MickMan
over a year ago

southside

WhatsApp pics of her going around and I know what I was like when I was 14/15 and I would have absolutely loved to have had a teacher like her.

In my opinion he was a very lucky lad

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By *ukeM8519Man
over a year ago

South Dublin

#ibelievehim

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a funny world that we live in ... a female teacher who slept with a student twice gets jailed for a year and two further years suspended.. I’m sure if it was a male teacher he would have received a longer sentence. I’m not making any comment on it either way but what do other people think?

Wrong is wrong. But actually men don't routinely get longer sentencing. "

They don't but the way it panned out most likely would have been different. If it was a male teacher, the other party most likely would have been coerced or played the r*pe card to save her image at school. The media would have jumped on it and played that card too, so it may have been a longer sentence.

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By *hocko87Man
over a year ago

dublin

Did any of you see the vid of them together . She is very hot .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did any of you see the vid of them together . She is very hot . "

What are they doing in the video.

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By *iss_dont_tellMan
over a year ago

Clare


"Did any of you see the vid of them together . She is very hot . "
I have been trying to find this but couldn't

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By *iss_dont_tellMan
over a year ago

Clare

I don't think it was a great decision from her but to be honest is not like that boy at 16 didn't know either what he was doing! The problem started in my opinion when he found out she had a boyfriend and his heart broke so he trowed her to the lions.

But at the end of the day the law is the law!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did any of you see the vid of them together . She is very hot . I have been trying to find this but couldn't "

Hi

Is there away of reporting people who watch kiddie porn, seems to me these 2 do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She should have joined fab instead

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By *outh_of_EdenMan
over a year ago

fota

€€€€ you have it in one!!

My understanding is that she stayed over in the parents house. Who lets a 15 year old have his GF stay over???

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