FabSwingers.com forum: Are you " homophobic" or "Racist" or both.

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If you post on your profile a dislike of Bi men, or BBC .

And use the excuse it's my choice . Does this somehow excuse you from being called either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you post on your profile a dislike of Bi men, or BBC .

And use the excuse it's my choice . Does this somehow excuse you from being called either.

A dislike or a preference not to meet? Because there is a hell of a difference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ouble Trouble 1000Couple
over a year ago

ireland

We prefer not to meet bi guys but have absolutely nothing against them ,each to their own and all that .It's a preference that's all ,nothing more and nothing less .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a big fan of BBC or cock for that matter, just means I'm straight, but if he's a sound guy attached to the cock I'll have a pint with him

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Preference to meet.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Preference to meet.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Then why comment at all . Just delete there message.

Why comment on there sexuality.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Big difference between posting a dislike from fucking a person, and a dislike of that person themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Save them haveing too keep deleting mails from bi men . They can put what they want on there profile!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm not saying people don't have a choice. Of course they have choices. But do you not accept it's discrimination .

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By *oft_sexy_sweetWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

"I'm not saying people don't have a choice. Of course they have choices. But do you not accept it's discrimination ."

The term and concept "BBC" is pretty racist in itself, although of course some people identify with it an use it (much like 'BBW' which I hate for similar reasons).

Literally everyone on earth's preferences are informed by societal prejudices that include racism and homophobia, it's not possible for your preferences to not be effected by the society you live in. Doesn't mean it's malicious or even conscious - but yes, "no bi men" and BBC are homophobic/biphobic and racist preferences.

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By *ineapple_PrincessWoman
over a year ago

in the waves

"I'm not saying people don't have a choice. Of course they have choices. But do you not accept it's discrimination ."

OP we all like who we like; we have rules, preferences and standards. We aren't being discriminatory it's just human nature.

Do you fuck anyone and everyone who shows interest in you to avoid discrimination?

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By *iktikiCouple
over a year ago

cork

Having preferences is like having an opinion everyone is entitled to them. Questioning people on there preferences or opinions is fine to but your not entitled to an explanation.

The world would be a shocking boring place without diversity or preferences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We prefer not to meet bi guys but have absolutely nothing against them ,each to their own and all that .It's a preference that's all ,nothing more and nothing less ."
preference false its the fact an mentality of people automatically assume we have AIDS and HIV and we bang each other without no condoms!! Just because we like cocks from to time it doesn't make us less of a straight man or unclean. No doubt you would meet a bi girl whats the difference in the sex if their bisexual?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its the hole bisexual thing that doesn't add up with me. You would be very shocked in the amount of straight guys that mail me and meet me. That strictly says straight and have even met people who strictly wont meet bi guys. The hole point is how do you know tom banged mick?. But when it comes to bi girls I'm yet to see a profile that says no bi girls lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But anyway OP there is a lot homophobic people on here. And a lot of racist people as well.

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By *ig Red300Woman
over a year ago

limerick

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By *iktikiCouple
over a year ago

cork

"Its the hole bisexual thing that doesn't add up with me. You would be very shocked in the amount of straight guys that mail me and meet me. That strictly says straight and have even met people who strictly wont meet bi guys. The hole point is how do you know tom banged mick?. But when it comes to bi girls I'm yet to see a profile that says no bi girls lol"

With you on most of what your saying, the problem is that some guys that are bi or bi curious don’t feel comfortable stating in there profile that’s what they are .

So even in fab where everything goes there is still some bigotry(why should fab be different from real life) but while that is not a good thing people are still entitled to have there preferences and to state what they are.

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By *ustforfun90777Man
over a year ago

Enfield

How is someone not being gay/bi racist? It’s a preference like the way someone might like blondes or slim or a big bum? A person is choose what makes them happy.... if this make me a racistthat I have no interest in men, then the worlds gone mad.....

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

We would think twice about meeting a profile with a comment like that on their profile. We are unlikely to connect with these people.

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By *ig Red300Woman
over a year ago

limerick

With all due respect to posters above who disagree I think people that dislike Bi men or bbc are very discriminatory ,the colour or their skin or the fact that they are bi shouldn’t be a deciding factor on here

No different than any other walk or life,skin colour and sexuality shouldn’t be a deciding factor,

Yes it’s a sex site,but deciding factors should be the usual,clicking with someone,soundness,having similar interests,even bloody hygiene reasons,not sexuality or colour of their skin!

And talking from experience here the couples that won’t play with Bi guys or black men have ABSOLUTLY no problem sleeping with Bi girls or black girls! Total double standard !

We live in an inclusive world these days,pity everyone not on board with it.xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So If someone does not want to meet big girl's does that make them sizeist? Or won't meet anyone over 50 are they ageist? Every person here is entitled to decide who they want to meet and they don't have to explain themselve's. It's human nature what's for one person is not for someone else. Just move along there is plenty more people here who do meet bi guy's. Why argue or look for a reason? Meeting a guy that has sex with other guy's doesn't turn me on it's as simple as that. If it did I would have no problem meeting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With all due respect to posters above who disagree I think people that dislike Bi men or bbc are very discriminatory ,the colour or their skin or the fact that they are bi shouldn’t be a deciding factor on here

No different than any other walk or life,skin colour and sexuality shouldn’t be a deciding factor,

Yes it’s a sex site,but deciding factors should be the usual,clicking with someone,soundness,having similar interests,even bloody hygiene reasons,not sexuality or colour of their skin!

And talking from experience here the couples that won’t play with Bi guys or black men have ABSOLUTLY no problem sleeping with Bi girls or black girls! Total double standard !

We live in an inclusive world these days,pity everyone not on board with it.xx

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nailed it

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

We are friends with bi / gay people but we don’t want to fuck bi or gay people. I see absolutely nothing wrong with this, open to hearing any reasonable reason why this is wrong though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But anyway OP there is a lot homophobic people on here. And a lot of racist people as well.

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Of course there are!..that's the world we live in!..but we all have personal tastes,if someone chooses to say they want someone athletic ,does that make them fattist?..or under 50 ageist?..over 6 foot heightist?..unless someone says to you I dislike you because of your sexuality or colour,don't always make assumptions!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

What I'm trying accomplish is. That when you post such preference or choice.

You need to know and understand that you are justifiably open to the accusation of Homophobia or Racism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We can be accused of it by people who wish to make it an issue when there is none. It Doesn't make it true.

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By *oxyvixen99Woman
over a year ago

Newtownabbey

A preference is not a discrimination

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

That is the most reasonable argument I've heard.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No but posting your preference can be discrimination.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No different than any other walk or life,skin colour and sexuality shouldn’t be a deciding factor,

Yes it’s a sex site,but deciding factors should be the usual,clicking with someone,soundness,having similar interests,even bloody hygiene reasons,not sexuality or colour of their skin!

And talking from experience here the couples that won’t play with Bi guys or black men have ABSOLUTLY no problem sleeping with Bi girls or black girls! Total double standard !

We live in an inclusive world these days,pity everyone not on board with it.xx

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What a ridiculous statement!,they choose to share a bed with whoever and for whatever reason they please!...what next the rooney rule? for every 5 people (I should be so lucky)I sleep with,one has to be a gay man and one has to be of an ethnic minority?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No different than any other walk or life,skin colour and sexuality shouldn’t be a deciding factor,

Yes it’s a sex site,but deciding factors should be the usual,clicking with someone,soundness,having similar interests,even bloody hygiene reasons,not sexuality or colour of their skin!

And talking from experience here the couples that won’t play with Bi guys or black men have ABSOLUTLY no problem sleeping with Bi girls or black girls! Total double standard !

We live in an inclusive world these days,pity everyone not on board with it.xx

nailed it

So you're saying someone that would meet a bi black girl is still a homophobic racist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't see why anyone has to explain or debate what preferences they have or who they want to meet.. You're allowed to decide who you want to meet the same as everyone else. I'm sure you've discriminated against people who've contacted you.

If you're offended by people saying "we are not interested in X", they are being honest about what they want. It's not their problem that you don't like it. It's yours. Offense is taken, not given.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my view--if abusing different colour person yes that's racism.. If just not fancy them it's just a choice/likes.

Same as goes when any of us choose what type or size body they prefer.

Before anyone start point anything- I used to be big sized girl so No I'm not body shaming or labeling anyone I'm just sharing my thoughts.

Alot "fit" people used to say no to me, sorry we not fancy you blah blah. Sure cool that's them preference or choice not sure how correct to write it.

So I didn't take it as abuse but just as them preference.

We all have rights to choose and so just to accept other persons choice

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By *iktikiCouple
over a year ago

cork

"What I'm trying accomplish is. That when you post such preference or choice.

You need to know and understand that you are justifiably open to the accusation of Homophobia or Racism."

I think you should add “ in my opinion” to your last statement in my opinion

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By *safunwituMan
over a year ago

Enniscorthy

People's preferences are their own, you shouldn't let it bother you cause you don't fit into their preference of race or sexuality. There are plenty on here that state they only meet bi guys or people of different of a different race to themselves. Would you accuse them of being racist to you for being Caucasian or complain they won't meet you because you could be straight. People may honestly have certain tastes, dont really mean they are racist or homophobic, because of them preferences...

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

"I don't see why anyone has to explain or debate what preferences they have or who they want to meet.. You're allowed to decide who you want to meet the same as everyone else. I'm sure you've discriminated against people who've contacted you.

If you're offended by people saying "we are not interested in X", they are being honest about what they want. It's not their problem that you don't like it. It's yours. Offense is taken, not given."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But anyway OP there is a lot homophobic people on here. And a lot of racist people as well.

Of course there are!..that's the world we live in!..but we all have personal tastes,if someone chooses to say they want someone athletic ,does that make them fattist?..or under 50 ageist?..over 6 foot heightist?..unless someone says to you I dislike you because of your sexuality or colour,don't always make assumptions!

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but they do thats the point!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have no Tvs Cd or Ts on your profile..just not your thing you say. So are you discriminating against them? Or is it just not what you're into?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

There is an issue . It's hurtful when I've organised a meet with a couple. Only for the woman to come back and say . Sorry we only noticed your bi . My husband doesn't like bi men. When you have been having the Craic with him all week . Slagging eachother about football . And talking about what his wife loves sexually. Even for him to say . Jaysus you know your stuff . I can certainly learn a lot from you . To suddenly be told your somehow no longer a man in his eyes.

And then they get abusive when I question there "Choice"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You have no Tvs Cd or Ts on your profile..just not your thing you say. So are you discriminating against them? Or is it just not what you're into?"
thats just not what im into I discriminate the same person not wearing the wifes knickers. Saying that I do like a fit person in knickers over a fat hairy guy in them massive difference think about it

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By *oxic1998Woman
over a year ago

Belfast

No different than any other walk or life,skin colour and sexuality shouldn’t be a deciding factor,

Yes it’s a sex site,but deciding factors should be the usual,clicking with someone,soundness,having similar interests,even bloody hygiene reasons,not sexuality or colour of their skin!

And talking from experience here the couples that won’t play with Bi guys or black men have ABSOLUTLY no problem sleeping with Bi girls or black girls! Total double standard !

We live in an inclusive world these days,pity everyone not on board with it.xx

nailed it

Dislike bi or bbc is something completely different to preferences.....

I'm not bi at all but have met some fantastic women who are. Just because I dont want to sleep with them doesnt mean I dislike them. It's my preference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This racist shit is gone fucking mad can't say anything now without someone say it racist or inpropper also who gives a fuck is someone is straight bi gay or what ever. Just be who you are be happy and enjoy life..... By the way I'm not a racist if your a cunt your a cunt no matter the colour of you skin or where you put you cock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is an issue . It's hurtful when I've organised a meet with a couple. Only for the woman to come back and say . Sorry we only noticed your bi . My husband doesn't like bi men. When you have been having the Craic with him all week . Slagging eachother about football . And talking about what his wife loves sexually. Even for him to say . Jaysus you know your stuff . I can certainly learn a lot from you . To suddenly be told your somehow no longer a man in his eyes.

And then they get abusive when I question there "Choice"

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yup weekly thing with me

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By *ig Red300Woman
over a year ago

limerick

No different than any other walk or life,skin colour and sexuality shouldn’t be a deciding factor,

Yes it’s a sex site,but deciding factors should be the usual,clicking with someone,soundness,having similar interests,even bloody hygiene reasons,not sexuality or colour of their skin!

And talking from experience here the couples that won’t play with Bi guys or black men have ABSOLUTLY no problem sleeping with Bi girls or black girls! Total double standard !

We live in an inclusive world these days,pity everyone not on board with it.xx

nailed it

So you're saying someone that would meet a bi black girl is still a homophobic racist?"

What???did u actually read that properly??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This racist shit is gone fucking mad can't say anything now without someone say it racist or inpropper also who gives a fuck is someone is straight bi gay or what ever. Just be who you are be happy and enjoy life..... By the way I'm not a racist if your a cunt your a cunt no matter the colour of you skin or where you put you cock

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haha right job

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I've kept my dislikes or preferences to myself . I don't express it on my profile . For fear of being offensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You have no Tvs Cd or Ts on your profile..just not your thing you say. So are you discriminating against them? Or is it just not what you're into? thats just not what im into I discriminate the same person not wearing the wifes knickers. Saying that I do like a fit person in knickers over a fat hairy guy in them massive difference think about it :-

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, discrimination comes in many different forms, it's not just based on race or sexuality. If that's your preference on tvs and CDs why can't someones preference be that they won't meet a bi guy?

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By *asterIrelandMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Discrimination: the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

So.. Just to throw my 2 cents...it depends... People are free to like and meet whoever they want but... If you start to talk to someone,contact them, and after wasting their time u pull out the number "oh, i have just seen you are bi or black or old or whatever, goodbye"

That's plain discrimination plus stupidity and ignorace.

As the OP said, if anyone is free to have their preferences, the others are free to say they are discriminating or racist.

That's the same of stating "i am not racist but i don't like to seat close tova blacl person"... That's fuckin racism!

I have been lucky and met any kind of people, i didn't have sex with all of them of course (didn't click/like them or they didn't like/click with me) but i have never wasted someone else time or turned someone else because of what they are\like

I might be wrong but i think that's what the OP was asking

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

But why do people feel the need to post it on their profile. And not realize your being hurtful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've kept my dislikes or preferences to myself . I don't express it on my profile . For fear of being offensive. "
That because your a big softy with a big hart matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, discrimination comes in many different forms, it's not just based on race or sexuality. If that's your preference on tvs and CDs why can't someones preference be that they won't meet a bi guy?"
again its false preference I've bin told cause im bi and play around with men my chances of being clean is slim (preference you say) yup sure is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So it's just not what your into? And you can openly state that on your profile but we can't openly state that we don't want to meet by guy's cause it's just not what we are into without being accused of being homophobic and discrimination. Double standard's maybe?"
again its false preference I've bin told cause im bi and play around with men my chances of being clean is slim (preference you say) yup sure is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No different than any other walk or life,skin colour and sexuality shouldn’t be a deciding factor,

Yes it’s a sex site,but deciding factors should be the usual,clicking with someone,soundness,having similar interests,even bloody hygiene reasons,not sexuality or colour of their skin!

And talking from experience here the couples that won’t play with Bi guys or black men have ABSOLUTLY no problem sleeping with Bi girls or black girls! Total double standard !

We live in an inclusive world these days,pity everyone not on board with it.xx

nailed it

So you're saying someone that would meet a bi black girl is still a homophobic racist?

What???did u actually read that properly??

Yes I did thanks, a couple of times. If you read my comment properly you'd realise I replied to the comment under yours, given the other comments made by the same poster on the thread.

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By *safunwituMan
over a year ago

Enniscorthy

And then they get abusive when I question there "Choice"

Being abusive to you because of your sexuality would defo show their homophobic nature. Don't think you stated this in your original post OP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So it's just not what your into? And you can openly state that on your profile but we can't openly state that we don't want to meet by guy's cause it's just not what we are into without being accused of being homophobic and discrimination. Double standard's maybe?again its false preference I've bin told cause im bi and play around with men my chances of being clean is slim (preference you say) yup sure is

That's an opinion that whoever you were talking to had, it doesn't mean that everyone who isn't interested in bi men has that same opinion or mindset. You can't assume that everyone else who doesn't want to meet bi men thinks the same. There are a couples on here who only meet bi men and state it clearly in their profile. Are they discriminating against straight males or is just their preference to meet bi men?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So it's just not what your into? And you can openly state that on your profile but we can't openly state that we don't want to meet by guy's cause it's just not what we are into without being accused of being homophobic and discrimination. Double standard's maybe?again its false preference I've bin told cause im bi and play around with men my chances of being clean is slim (preference you say) yup sure is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So it's just not what your into? And you can openly state that on your profile but we can't openly state that we don't want to meet by guy's cause it's just not what we are into without being accused of being homophobic and discrimination. Double standard's maybe?again its false preference I've bin told cause im bi and play around with men my chances of being clean is slim (preference you say) yup sure is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So it's just not what your into? And you can openly state that on your profile but we can't openly state that we don't want to meet by guy's cause it's just not what we are into without being accused of being homophobic and discrimination. Double standard's maybe?again its false preference I've bin told cause im bi and play around with men my chances of being clean is slim (preference you say) yup sure is

The only person here who has mentioned std's in relation to bi men is you. Your comment's make no sense. You openly called it discrimination because we don't meet bi men. Yet the fact you don't meet cd Tv Ts is simply just preference. You are entitled to choose who you are comfortable meeting so are we."
did you miss the part we I cleary SAID what I've bin told in regarding my sexuality?? And I can assure you its not a once off. I certainly dont go into crap like that if im not into certain people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Munsterlass how do you know the men you meet are straight btw?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Munsterlass how do you know the men you meet are straight btw?"

I can only believe what they tell me and would hope at this age people can be honest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Munsterlass how do you know the men you meet are straight btw?

I can only believe what they tell me and would hope at this age people can be honest."
lol people are not as honest as they say on here. I'd trust anyone with their open sexuality more than someone who hides it. And trust me there is a lot of straight guys meeting bi guys here an at some stage you will meet an undercover bi guy I will put my life on it..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Munsterlass how do you know the men you meet are straight btw?

I can only believe what they tell me and would hope at this age people can be honest."

The amount of straight guys who want to suck cock here is astounding. People lie because they know being truthful won't get them what they want, loads of attached males pretending to be single also. It's very naive to think that age makes people honest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Munsterlass how do you know the men you meet are straight btw?

I can only believe what they tell me and would hope at this age people can be honest. lol people are not as honest as they say on here. I'd trust anyone with their open sexuality more than someone who hides it. And trust me there is a lot of straight guys meeting bi guys here an at some stage you will meet an undercover bi guy I will put my life on it..

No doubt and maybe I already have. At the end of the day it make's no difference as I protect myself regardless who I meet. The fact that someone lie's to get a meet should be the issue not anything else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Munsterlass how do you know the men you meet are straight btw?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Munsterlass how do you know the men you meet are straight btw?

I can only believe what they tell me and would hope at this age people can be honest.

Well all you can do is take people at their word. Simple as that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Munsterlass how do you know the men you meet are straight btw?

I can only believe what they tell me and would hope at this age people can be honest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Munsterlass how do you know the men you meet are straight btw?

No doubt you will meet a guy at some stage that secretly crossdresses it's the nature of life. Best of luck yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Munsterlass how do you know the men you meet are straight btw?

No doubt you will meet a guy at some stage that secretly crossdresses it's the nature of life. Best of luck yourself

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doesn't bother me in the slightest and I have met cds that where not wearing the gear. So yup you could say I have met an undercovered few

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By *iktikiCouple
over a year ago

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And then they get abusive when I question there "Choice"

Poor form from that couple but it still doesn’t make it homophobic or racist for people to put their preferences on their profile.

If you had put up a thread about people that were ignorant and abusive about your preferred sexuality then l would be behind all the way but you didn’t

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And then they get abusive when I question there "Choice"

Poor form from that couple but it still doesn’t make it homophobic or racist for people to put their preferences on their profile.

If you had put up a thread about people that were ignorant and abusive about your preferred sexuality then l would be behind all the way but you didn’t "

Yeah there's a big difference between having a preference and being abusive - do you mean, op, that having a preference is discriminatory against you? or was it the abuse?

In the second instance, with you all the way, in the first instance, not so much!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And then they get abusive when I question there "Choice"

Poor form from that couple but it still doesn’t make it homophobic or racist for people to put their preferences on their profile.

If you had put up a thread about people that were ignorant and abusive about your preferred sexuality then l would be behind all the way but you didn’t

Yeah there's a big difference between having a preference and being abusive - do you mean, op, that having a preference is discriminatory against you? or was it the abuse?

In the second instance, with you all the way, in the first instance, not so much!"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It's there choice and preference to say what they like correct . But no where are they asked to choose black or bi guy's. So why do they. But somehow it's perfectly acceptable on fab to state on your profile no black or bi guy's . There is absolutely no genuine reason to state these choices. Just don't answer or delete your preference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's there choice and preference to say what they like correct . But no where are they asked to choose black or bi guy's. So why do they. But somehow it's perfectly acceptable on fab to state on your profile no black or bi guy's . There is absolutely no genuine reason to state these choices. Just don't answer or delete your preference.

So is it ok to say you don't want to meet men?

Because if that is ok but saying you don't want to meet bi men isn't, then you are putting bi men in a special category and thereby being discriminatory.

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By *un4tooCouple
over a year ago

north cork

I kind of agree with you here considering we are in ireland and there isn't a whole lot of black males here so the amount of mails you might receive you could count one one hand. On the other hand then if you're in the UK the amount of black males is massive so it's probably easier to be upfront. I have seen black female and couple profiles where they have stated BBC ONLY.. Did I get upset? Nope. Its their preference.

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By *rxmrsCouple
over a year ago

Dublin westmeath galway

We have it up on our profile that we are not into bbc now I have a lots of friends that are black people that we get on very well with but just because we dont want to bring them into our bedroom does not make us racist or does it

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By *ouble Trouble 1000Couple
over a year ago

ireland

"We prefer not to meet bi guys but have absolutely nothing against them ,each to their own and all that .It's a preference that's all ,nothing more and nothing less . preference false its the fact an mentality of people automatically assume we have AIDS and HIV and we bang each other without no condoms!! Just because we like cocks from to time it doesn't make us less of a straight man or unclean. No doubt you would meet a bi girl whats the difference in the sex if their bisexual? "
Please don't presume to know our reasons for not meeting bi guys-you don't know us !!

We play safe with straight guys too,in fact we play safe with everyone and for your information we ve no preference for bi girls either .

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By *ot ThingWoman
over a year ago

i get around - don’t judge

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By *oeDolansBrotherMan
over a year ago

South county

I wouldn’t worry about it too much. It’s a bit politer to leave the remarks off and just reply to the people you’re interested in. I have noticed a few where these requests, or similar, are the only thing on bio and yuh have to guess the posters are a bit dull or limited. But most men will take any pussy that doesn’t run away fast enough.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

Thought all BBC porn was made for white people who think having dark coloured skin makes you "taboo".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is just blatant attention seeking from OP. As a single gay man I find OP ‘preference’ to not meet single guys homophobic. Why would a bisexual man not want to meet a single gay man? There is deep hypocrisy on this thread. Op complaining some couples won’t meet him but I can’t even contact him. To me there is one clear homophobe.

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By *iktikiCouple
over a year ago

cork

"This is just blatant attention seeking from OP. As a single gay man I find OP ‘preference’ to not meet single guys homophobic. Why would a bisexual man not want to meet a single gay man? There is deep hypocrisy on this thread. Op complaining some couples won’t meet him but I can’t even contact him. To me there is one clear homophobe."

Strange

we shall await his explanation, as he has said earlier in this thread or possibly on his status that people should explain their preferences

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By *un4tooCouple
over a year ago

north cork

Has he got just gay men blocked from contacting him or just single men in general?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you post on your profile a dislike of Bi men, or BBC .

And use the excuse it's my choice . Does this somehow excuse you from being called either.

This is becoming the bisexual Mantra on fab now. Implying those who have preferences and reasons for not meeting them, homophobic or rasist.

If people are going to try to stir at least get the information and definitions right or allienation becomes an issue.

For a start racism has nothing to do with sexual orientation, but about race, and it is fundementally a belief that one's own race is superior.

Homophobia is having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

That's nothing to do with preference. That's don't showing or demonstrating a dislike towards them, but rather choosing not to play with them.

I may have bisexual friends whom I socialise with, work with or hangout with but does that mean I have to play with them or I'm labelled homophobic?

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By *un4tooCouple
over a year ago

north cork

The OP has a valid point here too.

If I seen "no white males" on someones profile I would consider it racism. It's clearly saying we don't want to play it you because you're white. They know nothing else about me but just because I'm white they don't want me.

Same goes when a white couple or single says "no black men" (it's always black men mentioned, no one ever says no to a black woman as far as I've seen myself).

The OPs point was, somethings are better left unsaid and just ignore people who message u that u don't want to play it..i don't get offended either way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is one of those threads and subjects where I can see where every side is coming from.

Prehaps the wording is the issue?

State your preference with inclusive language stating what you are looking for rather than what your not?

Im looking for staight single women instead of no bi women?

I dont see an issue with having preferences based on skin color or sexual oriantation, the same way people have them for age, height, body shape, relationship status, body hair, pubic hair the list goes on so long thats what it is a preference for a sexual encounter.

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

What about the smokers? Or the bbws or the guys who are not hung? Should they feel shunned because people wont meet them?

Its just preference really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about the smokers? Or the bbws or the guys who are not hung? Should they feel shunned because people wont meet them?

Its just preference really.

Or no one under 6' or smaller than 6".

It's not about wording as such someone said above, implying the use of not instead of wanting, both exclude, but it's about understanding the correct definition and not fudging it to suit ones gripe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is one of those threads and subjects where I can see where every side is coming from.

Prehaps the wording is the issue?

State your preference with inclusive language stating what you are looking for rather than what your not?

Im looking for staight single women instead of no bi women?

The inclusive language excludes those outside the parameters so no difference imo.

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By *ouble Trouble 1000Couple
over a year ago

ireland

"What about the smokers? Or the bbws or the guys who are not hung? Should they feel shunned because people wont meet them?

Its just preference really.

Or us poor old folk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"but it's about understanding the correct definition and not fudging it to suit ones gripe."

The most sensible thing said here.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"No but posting your preference can be discrimination. "

No it can’t. By calling it discrimination you are basing this on Removal of rights: no person has the right to fuck or be fucked another person. It’s discrimination to say No Bi men apply for this job as there is a right to be considered for a job if you are able to do it.

Sexual preference is one of the most personal things there is, especially when it comes to this sort of thing which isn’t about a bond or relationship - it’s about desire and fulfilment.

You are not racist or homophobic or transphobic if your fantasy does not include a black bi trans woman - you could have a person married to a black man but doesn’t want to fuck one on the side as it doesn’t play into their fantasy.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

"The OP has a valid point here too.

Same goes when a white couple or single says "no black men" (it's always black men mentioned, no one ever says no to a black woman as far as I've seen myself).

The OPs point was, somethings are better left unsaid and just ignore people who message u that u don't want to play it..i don't get offended either way. "

You see "no white men" all the time, even in Ireland it's common.

As for men not wanting black women, it's probably a numbers thing, there are only a few, they don't message etc. I have never had a message from a black girl on here. On dating websites I do, but never on here.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"but it's about understanding the correct definition and not fudging it to suit ones gripe.

The most sensible thing said here. "

The problem is there is no such this as a correct definition. There are several different definitions and all are correct.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/amp/english/discrimination

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We all as individuals are allowed a preference as to whom we would like to meet , but its all in how it is worded that makes the difference.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"but it's about understanding the correct definition and not fudging it to suit ones gripe.

The most sensible thing said here.

The problem is there is no such this as a correct definition. There are several different definitions and all are correct.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/amp/english/discrimination"

Generally speaking though, these definitions refer to everyday events rather than intimate relationships, however brief they may be. When it comes to sex, it’s 100% what you want and especially buy today’s standards it would be considered wrong to try to tell someone what they want to do or not do sexually (as long as it’s legal) is wrong. There is no such thing as “you have to” when it comes to sexual preferences.

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By *ryst In IsoldeWoman
over a year ago

your imagination

For some it's simply a preference, for others it will be because they are actually racist or homophobic. Only they can answer. You can't paint everyone who rejects you, for whatever reason, as being one thing or another.

Tbh, when I see people cry racism or homophobia on Fab, I tend to just see someone with a chip on their shoulder who wants to blame and shame, rather than someone who simply had the grace to accept that they were rejected... Yes, rejection hurts, but you got an honest answer from that couple when they told you that your being bi made him uncomfortable sexually. They didn't ghost you, they didn't just block you and leave you wondering what happened. From your own comments above, you've made it clear that you made it an issue. Instead of accepting that it wasn't going to go any further, and bowing out gracefully (which might have actually lead to them to think twice and maybe changing their mind at a later date) you pushed the issue, got angry and questioned their 'choice', and from what I gather from your comments they then got 'abusive' in return. Can you in all honesty OP say that this have not happened anyway if they'd given another reason... If they'd said you were older/younger than they had realised, or weren't as close by as they realised, or were balder, or shorter, or any of a multitude of other reasons, would you not have felt equally as indignant about the rejection and have reacted in much the same way? Sometimes it's easy to make a bigger issue of something simply because it can be a touch point... To accuse someone of racism, or homophobia or something else hateful, simply because you feel hurt by their rejection. Women on Fab experience this all the time... The angry rejected male saying hurtful things, and a conversation going from polite and pleasant to pure hatred in the blink of an eye. You go from being a goddess to being a fat ugly old cunt in seconds... and depending on your mood, that might lead you to lash back too, or just block and move on. In hindsight OP, do you not think maybe you just handled the rejection badly, and probably missed out on the chance to be the better man... Who knows, grace and maturity might have made them reflect on their decision at a later point, but anger, volatility and hostility only ever does one thing.. It reinforces a person's belief that they made the right decision in the first place... even if the original reason at some time is no longer valid or may have simply been a concern or doubt that gave them a brief moment of pause, they now have a much stronger reason for saying no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"but it's about understanding the correct definition and not fudging it to suit ones gripe.

The most sensible thing said here. "

But sensibility has little to do with anything when you have an agenda.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

I'm just a fussy fucker on looks, not the size of a woman's ass or her tits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For some it's simply a preference, for others it will be because they are actually racist or homophobic. Only they can answer. You can't paint everyone who rejects you, for whatever reason, as being one thing or another.

Sweet. X

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By *andytownMan
over a year ago

Gods Own Country

So if I've read this right... In summary...

" i got turned down at the last minute and I'm playing the racist and homophobic card".

Seems about right

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"So if I've read this right... In summary...

" i got turned down at the last minute and I'm playing the racist and homophobic card".

Seems about right

The next big thing will be calling someone victimphobic - how dare you call someone out for trying to play the victim!

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By *andytownMan
over a year ago

Gods Own Country

"So if I've read this right... In summary...

" i got turned down at the last minute and I'm playing the racist and homophobic card".

Seems about right

The next big thing will be calling someone victimphobic - how dare you call someone out for trying to play the victim!"

How dare you call me victimiphobic for being the victim of your victumness

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

It depends on the thought process behind your 'preferences'. If your choice is based on prejudice (ie bi man are sti riddled) your preference is discriminatory hence homophobic.

If you prefer to meet ie tall peeps because ie your're tall yourself it's a simple preference, there's no preconceived untrue generalization behind it.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"It depends on the thought process behind your 'preferences'. If your choice is based on prejudice (ie bi man are sti riddled) your preference is discriminatory hence homophobic.

If you prefer to meet ie tall peeps because ie your're tall yourself it's a simple preference, there's no preconceived untrue generalization behind it. "

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"It depends on the thought process behind your 'preferences'. If your choice is based on prejudice (ie bi man are sti riddled) your preference is discriminatory hence homophobic.

If you prefer to meet ie tall peeps because ie your're tall yourself it's a simple preference, there's no preconceived untrue generalization behind it. "

What if I want to meet someone white because I am white?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Fab have a designed set of choices. To which people tick at box. They don't have boxes to choose black or Bi Men . Why? Because they can't on the grounds of discrimination. There is no need to express these choices.. there offensive. End of.

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By *oxic1998Woman
over a year ago

Belfast

Perfect reply xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok so if i have read this properly which i have btw,the op has a gripe with someone for refusing to meet him cause hes bi and thats not how they play. How can the op then call them out on it,it is their preference and everybody has their preferences.

That would be like me calling somebody out on the forum because they say they don't like slim women or short women,being honest it has been said numerous times and you know what thats fine i don't get bent out of shape by it i just move on because that is their choice. In my book that does not make these people sizeist,just like a woman chats to us and doesn't like playing with women can i then call her sexist,no because that is her choice.

This discussion could carry on till the end of time and it will unfortunetly because somebody is always gonna be offended in this new pc world we live in

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"It depends on the thought process behind your 'preferences'. If your choice is based on prejudice (ie bi man are sti riddled) your preference is discriminatory hence homophobic.

If you prefer to meet ie tall peeps because ie your're tall yourself it's a simple preference, there's no preconceived untrue generalization behind it.

What if I want to meet someone white because I am white?"

That's perfectly fine.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"Fab have a designed set of choices. To which people tick at box. They don't have boxes to choose black or Bi Men . Why? Because they can't on the grounds of discrimination. There is no need to express these choices.. there offensive. End of. "

Fab also have sections to state ethnicity and sexual orientation, so that we can select who we wish to contact based on what we are “shopping” for.

You were offended because you felt that you are entitled to be considered for sexual contact despite the preferences of the other people involved, I’ll make it clear that you are not entitled to anything here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Sorry. But I meet gay guys . I even have a profile on fab guy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fab also have sections to state ethnicity and sexual orientation, so that we can select who we wish to contact based on what we are “shopping” for.

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By *ohng69Man
over a year ago

athenry

"Ok so if i have read this properly which i have btw,the op has a gripe with someone for refusing to meet him cause hes bi and thats not how they play. How can the op then call them out on it,it is their preference and everybody has their preferences.

This discussion could carry on till the end of time and it will unfortunetly because somebody is always gonna be offended in this new pc world we live in"

Well said

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"Sorry. But I meet gay guys . I even have a profile on fab guy. "

And if people don’t want to meet you because you meet gay guys that’s their prerogative.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sorry. But I meet gay guys . I even have a profile on fab guy.

And if people don’t want to meet you because you meet gay guys that’s their prerogative."
You seem so much sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By that logic Fab is discriminating on gender grounds because I can select not to meet men. Hell I can even block all of them from messaging me to even say hello

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"but it's about understanding the correct definition and not fudging it to suit ones gripe.

The most sensible thing said here.

The problem is there is no such this as a correct definition. There are several different definitions and all are correct.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/amp/english/discrimination"

"The practice of..."

Unfortunately most of what I've read here leveling the accusation is all based on assumption of what the person's reasons are without any evidence.

This is the point where it's wrongly used.

Unfortunately too many people are simply looking to take personal offense any way they can.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Sorry. But I meet gay guys . I even have a profile on fab guy.

And if people don’t want to meet you because you meet gay guys that’s their prerogative."

Of course. It's their prerogative to be discriminatory.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"but it's about understanding the correct definition and not fudging it to suit ones gripe.

The most sensible thing said here.

The problem is there is no such this as a correct definition. There are several different definitions and all are correct.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/amp/english/discrimination

"The practice of..."

Unfortunately most of what I've read here leveling the accusation is all based on assumption of what the person's reasons are without any evidence.

This is the point where it's wrongly used.

Unfortunately too many people are simply looking to take personal offense any way they can. "

You cant be certain of anyone's motivations for doing nor saying anything ever. I can make my decisions and my assumptions based upon the information i have.. and sometimes that will lead me to think someone has racist or homophobic reasoning. That's MY prerogative.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Fab also have sections to state ethnicity and sexual orientation, so that we can select who we wish to contact based on what we are “shopping” for.

Fab doesn't allow you to make discriminatory selection in the search feature based on sexual orientation and ethnicity isn't there at all

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

I would like to think that most people who base their preference on not meeting a bi guy is not actually based on homophobia but more based on statistics especially in regards to catching sti’s.

The data is available on the hse website if you look.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"Sorry. But I meet gay guys . I even have a profile on fab guy.

And if people don’t want to meet you because you meet gay guys that’s their prerogative.

Of course. It's their prerogative to be discriminatory. "

It can’t be discriminatory if the person does not have a right to it. It’s not discriminatory to only buy meat from a halal butcher or for a vegetarian to refuse to eat from a non vegan cafe - applying limits your own choices is just that, a choice.

We are ok to refuse to meet smokers, but not with people who we feel is a sexuality incompatible with our own very specific desires? This is pure insanity and pandering. It’s a case of my feelings are more important than yours because I see myself as part of a marginalised group of some description.

Are you actually going to say that a woman should HAVE to consider having sex with a man who is not attractive to her for WHATEVER reason, because otherwise he might be offended? If sexuality is the only reason she doesn’t want to should she push that aside and just do it to save his feelings?

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"I would like to think that most people who base their preference on not meeting a bi guy is not actually based on homophobia but more based on statistics especially in regards to catching sti’s.

The data is available on the hse website if you look."

Yes, for many it’s about the numbers - it’s considered offensive to say so though

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

Fab also have sections to state ethnicity and sexual orientation, so that we can select who we wish to contact based on what we are “shopping” for.

Fab doesn't allow you to make discriminatory selection in the search feature based on sexual orientation and ethnicity isn't there at all"

Then why do we list sexual orientation and ethnicity if not to allow us to select what we are attracted to and avoid what we are not?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

What is wrong With gay guys ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"but it's about understanding the correct definition and not fudging it to suit ones gripe.

The most sensible thing said here.

The problem is there is no such this as a correct definition. There are several different definitions and all are correct.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/amp/english/discrimination

"The practice of..."

Unfortunately most of what I've read here leveling the accusation is all based on assumption of what the person's reasons are without any evidence.

This is the point where it's wrongly used.

Unfortunately too many people are simply looking to take personal offense any way they can.

The evidence is what though? Based upon their written preferences, if that's the evidence and much of this thread is talking about the written text and box ticking as preferences then are you then wrongly judging in your 'thinking' and assumptions?

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

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By *affa31Woman
over a year ago

Galway

Your entitled to say whatever you want but you’re not entitled to be right

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Sorry. But I meet gay guys . I even have a profile on fab guy.

And if people don’t want to meet you because you meet gay guys that’s their prerogative.

Of course. It's their prerogative to be discriminatory.

I would strongly disagree with your contention that you need to have "a right" to something before excluding it solely on the basis of race of sexual orientation for it to be considered discriminatory.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"but it's about understanding the correct definition and not fudging it to suit ones gripe.

The most sensible thing said here.

The problem is there is no such this as a correct definition. There are several different definitions and all are correct.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/amp/english/discrimination

"The practice of..."

Unfortunately most of what I've read here leveling the accusation is all based on assumption of what the person's reasons are without any evidence.

This is the point where it's wrongly used.

Unfortunately too many people are simply looking to take personal offense any way they can.

You only have the information that's provided to you to in order to make decisions on people. Sure it's not always accurate. It's all we have though.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

What is wrong With gay guys ?"

Nothing wrong with gay guys - nobody said there was.

You are not entitled to call someone homophobic because that is a defamatory statement. You could be an lgbt rights activist and still not want to have sex with bi guys.

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By *andytownMan
over a year ago

Gods Own Country

You can't argue with stupid..... Ever

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"but it's about understanding the correct definition and not fudging it to suit ones gripe.

The most sensible thing said here.

The problem is there is no such this as a correct definition. There are several different definitions and all are correct.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/amp/english/discrimination

"The practice of..."

Unfortunately most of what I've read here leveling the accusation is all based on assumption of what the person's reasons are without any evidence.

This is the point where it's wrongly used.

Unfortunately too many people are simply looking to take personal offense any way they can.

You only have the information that's provided to you to in order to make decisions on people. Sure it's not always accurate. It's all we have though."

Or you could just not judge people because of their sexual preferences. Not wanting to have sex with someone isn’t a judgement, it’s a lack of attraction, for whatever reason. Calling someone homophobic because they don’t want to have sex with someone is just illogical.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op you are basically stating that straightcouple's and women should not have a choice to meet only straight men. Yet you are free to choose to meet women and men, straight bi or gay. What make's you or any other bisexual person here different from anyone else. Every one regardless of sexuality has freedom of choice. No one questioned your personal preferences what give's you or anyone else the right to question another person's.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Fab also have sections to state ethnicity and sexual orientation, so that we can select who we wish to contact based on what we are “shopping” for.

Fab doesn't allow you to make discriminatory selection in the search feature based on sexual orientation and ethnicity isn't there at all

Then why do we list sexual orientation and ethnicity if not to allow us to select what we are attracted to and avoid what we are not?"

I don't know where you find/have/list ethnicity on here. It's not there.

All I'm saying is that fab search features only allow to make positive selections. But of course you can state negative ones on your profile if you so wish.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"Op you are basically stating that straightcouple's and women should not have a choice to meet only straight men. Yet you are free to choose to meet women and men, straight bi or gay. What make's you or any other bisexual person here different from anyone else. Every one regardless of sexuality has freedom of choice. No one questioned your personal preferences what give's you or anyone else the right to question another person's."

He gets to be offended because he identifies at part of a “marginalised” group. His feelings are more important than everyone else’s. That’s basically what all this comes down to.

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

What is wrong With gay guys ?"
Did you not see the part where i said they are more of a high risk in catching a sti? This i would think is the reason a lot of people choose not too meet, at least I would hope that is.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

What is wrong With gay guys ?Did you not see the part where i said they are more of a high risk in catching a sti? This i would think is the reason a lot of people choose not too meet, at least I would hope that is.

Oh, you went there!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your entitled to say whatever you want but you’re not entitled to be right

You're also not entitled to an explanation from anyone

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By *oseredWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

I think a little context should be applied here. This is not people saying they do/don't want to mix in company, this is people deciding what they are comfortable with in a very private, personal, intimate sexual situtation. Preference is very different to discrimination when you are picking potential play mates.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

Now this is homophobia. Answering a question about what is wrong with gay guys and quoting sti stats to tar us all with the same brush. Statistically swingers are also a high risk group in sti terms so why would a swinger cherry pick stats on gay and bi guys and ignore the same stats on swingers. There is as much high risk and unprotected sex among straight swinging couples as there is among the gay as bi community. Your prejudice, which is what this is, is disgusting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thers nothing wrong with having a particular pref when it comes to race /skin / religion ect . It dose not in any way make you a racist . And any one who plays the racist card it’s just a sheer sign of desperation. I was once called a racist because I couldn’t pronounce the guys name . Not that is the perfect example of how petty they will be .

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By *affa31Woman
over a year ago

Galway

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

Agreed

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

I’d be interested in reading those stats, genuinely as I haven’t found any on the swinging community.

Is stating a fact homophobic? I can understand your position but it is a fact that bi men are considered the highest risk of sti,is this not a valid reason for a person to avoid having sex with them? Certain areas have higher crime rate, not all the people there are criminals but is it wrong not to walk through the areas at night?

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

I’d be interested in reading those stats, genuinely as I haven’t found any on the swinging community.

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

I’d be interested in reading those stats, genuinely as I haven’t found any on the swinging community.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

I’d be interested in reading those stats, genuinely as I haven’t found any on the swinging community.

Facts are facts and as a very smart man likes to say, “Facts don’t care about your feelings”.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

I’d be interested in reading those stats, genuinely as I haven’t found any on the swinging community.

A quote from an article in June on medicinenet site. May not be Irish stats but is from a progressive European country

“A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to teenagers and gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.”

The prejudice is you using a fact to apply to me and everyone who identifies as gay and ignore the studies and facts on swingers. You are implying I am a lesser person due to my sexual orientation and using facts also relevant to your lifestyle choice to discriminate me.

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

I’d be interested in reading those stats, genuinely as I haven’t found any on the swinging community.

A quote from an article in June on medicinenet site. May not be Irish stats but is from a progressive European country

Can you post the stats that relate to ireland please?

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By *ryst In IsoldeWoman
over a year ago

your imagination

Fab also have sections to state ethnicity and sexual orientation, so that we can select who we wish to contact based on what we are “shopping” for.

Fab doesn't allow you to make discriminatory selection in the search feature based on sexual orientation and ethnicity isn't there at all"

I disagree... Fab does allow you to search for bisexual or bi curious people in the advanced search facility. They ask for your ethnicity in your 'my details' section of your account. Ethnicity is used to categorise photographs. You can search for black, asian, or interracial photographs and choose to contact the people they belong to, or indeed block the people they belong to, depending on your views. Aside from the option to say you will or won't meet smokers, Fab doesn't overtly give anyone the option to choose or discriminate... But overtly is the key word, because if it wasn't an issue, why ask your ethnicity or offer those photo categories at all? While it can be argued that they are for positive reasons, and allow those who fetishise race the means to find the people they want quicker, they also allow the opposite. The means to discriminate are provided, just not in an obvious way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

I’d be interested in reading those stats, genuinely as I haven’t found any on the swinging community.

A quote from an article in June on medicinenet site. May not be Irish stats but is from a progressive European country

Can you post the stats that relate to ireland please?

Do you think Irish stats are more accurate or more under reported? Are you practising unprotected sex with multiple swinging partners? And if so are you a regular user of prep? There are lots of facts to support different positions. To use certain facts is to degrade me is homophobia.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This discussion could carry on till the end of time and it will unfortunetly because somebody is always gonna be offended in this new pc world we live in"

He got turned down get over it

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

I’d be interested in reading those stats, genuinely as I haven’t found any on the swinging community.

A quote from an article in June on medicinenet site. May not be Irish stats but is from a progressive European country

Nobody is implying you are a lesser person, you’ll have to qualify that statement with some proof from this thread. We are using facts relevant to your lifestyle to make the decision not to have sex with you.

If I am at a higher risk of sti, does it not make it a logical move to try to negate the risk as much as possible? Do you expect me to say oh well, why bother taking any precautions if I’m at a high risk anyway! Those already at a higher risk should in fact do everything they can to be careful. Safe sex is a good one obviously but also avoiding sex with bi men is a choice that some people make - it’s nothing personal, but you are trying to make it personal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The prejudice on here is unbelievable towards heterosexuals who have a preference. Shakes my head.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"The prejudice on here is unbelievable towards heterosexuals who have a preference. Shakes my head. "

If people don’t want to have sex with me because of my preferences or for any reason in fact, I’m cool with it and wish them well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

What is wrong With gay guys ?

Did you not see the part where i said they are more of a high risk in catching a sti? This i would think is the reason a lot of people choose not too meet, at least I would hope that is.

This is the prejudice. The question asked was what is wrong with gay guys? The answer given was they are a higher risk of sti than swingers. Evidence given that that is not an absolute fact. Dutch studies disprove it absolutism. A point of clarification being gay or any other sexual orientation is not a lifestyle choice. How to express that sexuality is. I have never disagreed with someone having preferences. I have taken great offence at bring told what was wrong with being gay. There is nothing wrong with being gay. I have every right as you do to live and express myself. Being told my sti risk is something that is wrong with every gay man is offensive.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

What is wrong With gay guys ?

Did you not see the part where i said they are more of a high risk in catching a sti? This i would think is the reason a lot of people choose not too meet, at least I would hope that is.

Ok,, I’ll give you that. Personally I said there is nothing wrong with gay guys - I don’t care who you have sex with but I don’t want to have any of your sexual partners involved in my own sex life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

What is wrong With gay guys ?

Did you not see the part where i said they are more of a high risk in catching a sti? This i would think is the reason a lot of people choose not too meet, at least I would hope that is.

I don’t take issue with your assertion. That’s your preference. I do take offence at being told being gay is wrong for the stated reasons,

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

What is wrong With gay guys ?

Did you not see the part where i said they are more of a high risk in catching a sti? This i would think is the reason a lot of people choose not too meet, at least I would hope that is.

I don’t take issue with your assertion. That’s your preference. I do take offence at being told being gay is wrong for the stated reasons,"

That’s fair, are you open to the suggestion that the person who posted that was mistaken? Given that this has been mainly a discussion on sexual preferences? Again, I see how you could be offended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There in titled to meet and say what ever they like.

Am I not in titled say it's still homophobic ?

What is wrong With gay guys ?

Did you not see the part where i said they are more of a high risk in catching a sti? This i would think is the reason a lot of people choose not too meet, at least I would hope that is.

I don’t take issue with your assertion. That’s your preference. I do take offence at being told being gay is wrong for the stated reasons,

That’s fair, are you open to the suggestion that the person who posted that was mistaken? Given that this has been mainly a discussion on sexual preferences? Again, I see how you could be offended."

No I don’t think that person was mistaken. They stated it more than once and defended it once it was pointed out to them. I’m done in this now.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Yes you can search for bi people but you can't search for non bi people. In other words you can't search-exclude people because they're bi.

Yes ethnicity was a detail asked to set up account but it's not a search option. Yes you can filter photos based on ethnicity but it's down to each fabber if they wish to label their photos accordingly.

There's always possibilities to negatively use tool and options and if someone goes around and filters photos based on skin color in order to block them, we surely agree that such person is a sad fuck and most likely a racist.

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth

Despite clearly stating on my profile im straight i still get ignorant gay men messaging me..i mean can they not read??

It gotten to the stage where i have to be abusive to get rid of them..i dont want to block anyone dont see why i should have to..just read the profile before messaging simple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Despite clearly stating on my profile im straight i still get ignorant gay men messaging me..i mean can they not read??

It gotten to the stage where i have to be abusive to get rid of them..i dont want to block anyone dont see why i should have to..just read the profile before messaging simple

Why are they ignorant?

There's no need to be abusive to anyone. Block who you don't want to contact you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Despite clearly stating on my profile im straight i still get ignorant gay men messaging me..i mean can they not read??

It gotten to the stage where i have to be abusive to get rid of them..i dont want to block anyone dont see why i should have to..just read the profile before messaging simple

Why are they ignorant?

There's no need to be abusive to anyone. Block who you don't want to contact you. "

You can't just block people based on their sexuality, that's homophobic apparently, even though, in this user's case, it's warranted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We can be accused of it by people who wish to make it an issue when there is none. It Doesn't make it true. "

I agree with this.

People today are terrified of being accused of being racist *phobic by overly sensitive people looking for issues where there are none.

Racism/phobia is obviously someone who does not want to be around a person from each bracket in any sense. Or that person is discriminated against.

My preference sexually is not for BBC or a bi guy............that does not make me racist/phobic.

However if I did not want to go for a beer or be in the same room because that person is black or Bi than yes I can justifiably be considered racist/phobic.

If I don't want to sleep with a 70 year old.......does that mean I hate older people.

'In my opinion' ...... people need to get a grip. I would not consider myself highly intelligent but I would consider myself a good person who knows the difference between 'hate' and a 'sexual preference'.

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth

"Despite clearly stating on my profile im straight i still get ignorant gay men messaging me..i mean can they not read??

It gotten to the stage where i have to be abusive to get rid of them..i dont want to block anyone dont see why i should have to..just read the profile before messaging simple

Why are they ignorant?

There's no need to be abusive to anyone. Block who you don't want to contact you. "

Because they read the bio then message offering sex acts knowing full well im not into that ..most ignorant thing ever..have no problem talking to men on this just not interested in them sexually..thats why i dont block

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By *uniorendowedMan
over a year ago

London Derbyshire

Yes you can search for bi people but you can't search for non bi people. In other words you can't search-exclude people because they're bi.

You actually can select ethnicity in the search option but I think it’s only if your location is in the UK.

It’s been quite interesting reading this debate and I guess there is no right answer but my take on this is

Racism is when your racial predudice impacts upon another persons life in a negative way. Wanted to only meet someone that looks like you does not impact somebody else’s life negatively. Having preferences with who you want to intimately meet is your prerogative and nobody has the right to question that.

I’m sure the majority of us will agree that attraction and beauty is subjective but there is beauty in everyone regardless or race, sexual orientation etc however when you denounce an entire race based on preferences it’s sexually racist and it ignores the greater impact it has on there self esteem of those who may be effected by this.

I know plenty of people that won’t even date within their own race and again this is sexually racist. You can be sexually racist due to your preferences but that does not mean you are racist and again we are all entitled to our preferences and all of us have them.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

The long and short of it is this: Just because someone doesn’t want to fuck you does not mean they hate you or are afraid of you. Stop looking for a reason to be a victim and grow up.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The long and short of it is this: Just because someone doesn’t want to fuck you does not mean they hate you or are afraid of you. Stop looking for a reason to be a victim and grow up."

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