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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Listening to a podcast this week that got into a discussion about social grouping.

Jocks, nerds, goths, punks, emo's and on and on.......

Are these social groups a hollywood construct to a degree, quiet creative kids growing into writers and simplifying their feelings of social isolation?

I suffered a mini idenity crisis myself listening to it, I csnt think of a group I would sit comfortably in or a defining characteristic to describe myself or me in my youth.

So what are your thoughts of thos reflecting on your own youth? Who are you now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Listening to a podcast this week that got into a discussion about social grouping.

Jocks, nerds, goths, punks, emo's and on and on.......

Are these social groups a hollywood construct to a degree, quiet creative kids growing into writers and simplifying their feelings of social isolation?

I suffered a mini idenity crisis myself listening to it, I csnt think of a group I would sit comfortably in or a defining characteristic to describe myself or me in my youth.

So what are your thoughts of thos reflecting on your own youth? Who are you now? "
I'm me who are you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is Kaizer

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By *ildmovementMan
over a year ago

Dublin


"Listening to a podcast this week that got into a discussion about social grouping.

Jocks, nerds, goths, punks, emo's and on and on.......

Are these social groups a hollywood construct to a degree, quiet creative kids growing into writers and simplifying their feelings of social isolation?

I suffered a mini idenity crisis myself listening to it, I csnt think of a group I would sit comfortably in or a defining characteristic to describe myself or me in my youth.

So what are your thoughts of thos reflecting on your own youth? Who are you now? "

You belong to the Fab group. Another minority group in society

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

In secondary school this question came up among people.

Everyone was separated into groups, largely along music taste lines, but some were the "nerds", "the metal heads", "the jocks" etc.

Then someone said "What about devil?"

and they went quiet and then started to try figure it out "He does well at sport but hes not a jock, he listens to rock but he hes not a rocker, he listens to rave but not a raver, he is in higher level classes but not a nerd, he hangs out with the goths and the rockers and the jocks"..

Then someone said "Hes the fonz", and they laughed, then they said "he doesnt belong in our group but hangs out with us anyway"...

When I went away and ended up living in France one of the best things was, people in france dont group up like we do, they have a group of friends and one is a hippy, one a raver, one a rocker, one into football, one into thai kickboxking, one into motorbikes, all sitting at the same table, all friends.

In Ireland a group of friends, well, they often all support the same sport, the same team, listen to same music, holiday in same place.

Like a bunch of heineken drinking leinster fans who winter holiday in the alps.

I prefer to sit around chatting to people different to me.

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By *r tayt2Man
over a year ago

Trim

So would I and even if ye don't have same views on everything

You can still have great friendships debate conversation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I lived in France for a number of years myself and find this very true, Irish people can be uncomfortable outside their social status and unwelcome to something or someone different..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"In secondary school this question came up among people.

Everyone was separated into groups, largely along music taste lines, but some were the "nerds", "the metal heads", "the jocks" etc.

Then someone said "What about devil?"

and they went quiet and then started to try figure it out "He does well at sport but hes not a jock, he listens to rock but he hes not a rocker, he listens to rave but not a raver, he is in higher level classes but not a nerd, he hangs out with the goths and the rockers and the jocks"..

Then someone said "Hes the fonz", and they laughed, then they said "he doesnt belong in our group but hangs out with us anyway"...

When I went away and ended up living in France one of the best things was, people in france dont group up like we do, they have a group of friends and one is a hippy, one a raver, one a rocker, one into football, one into thai kickboxking, one into motorbikes, all sitting at the same table, all friends.

In Ireland a group of friends, well, they often all support the same sport, the same team, listen to same music, holiday in same place.

Like a bunch of heineken drinking leinster fans who winter holiday in the alps.

I prefer to sit around chatting to people different to me."

I dont recall very defined groups like that in my year in school.

Ya there were kids who liked rock and kids who were more sporty amd they dressed in the same manner but we all socialised and interacted together

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I lived in France for a number of years myself and find this very true, Irish people can be uncomfortable outside their social status and unwelcome to something or someone different.. "

I dont know there is alot of unrest in france along racial, religious and economic lines..or at least it seems that way from the outside I havemt lived there but have worked with French people recently

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"I dont know there is alot of unrest in france along racial, religious and economic lines..or at least it seems that way from the outside I havemt lived there but have worked with French people recently"

Because they needed workers and they opened their doors to Algerians. They needed them to build motorways, and work of that nature.

Eventually the work dried up, and all of these people were made unemployed.

They now have huge ghettos, and I mean huge, full of kids who think their parents built France, and were dumped by the roadside when not needed, and they themselves live in close to poverty conditions, with no future, and it makes them angry.

France and Germany back then were proponents of "Multiculture", and that means allowing people who come to the country to maintain their culture. None of these people were expected to live in a catholic way, a french way, or anything even approaching a "western" way.

This means that the poverty lines are written along race/religious lines now.

There are areas in france now where women will have abuse shouted at them for walking down the street in a short dress, and not "oh la la". But France encouraged them to maintain their own culture, and their own culture expects women to dress modestly.

France did enter an official state of civil war over it, and eventually it might be the undoing of them.

But when I lived there, the "Arabs" liked me, and I was free to come and go from the ghetto with people shouting and waving hello at me when they seen me. However it was a totally different world to the ones my french friends lived in. They had been in jail for murdering people, the clubs they went to had pitbulls and dobermen on the doors with the bouncers, the police couldnt enter the area unless a couple of bus loads of riot squad armed police came with them, and it was a pretty dangerous place.

It would be as if Finglas, Ballymun, Tallaght were combined and made about 50% bigger, in both crime and population, and no one but people of arabic origin lived in them, and none of them lived by an "irish" way of life. They all just got caught in a poverty trap that has turned into a race/religious clusterfuck.

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By *oft_sexy_sweetWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

I consider myself part of a few communities that are part of my identity - kinkster, feminist, fat acceptance - but I'm not any one thing exclusively, I don't think anyone is!

In school I was both a nerd and one of the cool kids.

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By *hors.HammerMan
over a year ago

Newbridge

I'm Batman

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown


"Listening to a podcast this week that got into a discussion about social grouping.

Jocks, nerds, goths, punks, emo's and on and on.......

Are these social groups a hollywood construct to a degree, quiet creative kids growing into writers and simplifying their feelings of social isolation?

I suffered a mini idenity crisis myself listening to it, I csnt think of a group I would sit comfortably in or a defining characteristic to describe myself or me in my youth.

So what are your thoughts of thos reflecting on your own youth? Who are you now? "

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A person is naturally going to gravitate towards a group with whom they've a common interest with... whether that's as a "rocker" "ska" "metal head" etc

Couple that with the fact that nearly all teenagers are looking to get away from their parents control and forge their own identity in the world. So, peer groups and social groupings is part of growing up and self development too...

Myself, I used to kick football with the lads all day, had my hair long and listened to hard rock like a lot of my peers

Would encourage teens (and adults too) to try a few different sports, listen to other types of music, foods and experiences (*disclaimer follows...) within reason obviously)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a lover not a fighter

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