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"Lots of women come to me for massage. An earlier post this morning from a physio gave me food for thought. One of the most common complaints I hear from woman, is that their partner/hubby doesn't know how to touch them. While he might be a great man in many other ways, they crave a touch that he doesn't know how to give. So, where are all the physios, masseurs on fab? Your healing hands are in great demand. " I have healing hands just need to a good man  | |||
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"Lots of women come to me for massage. An earlier post this morning from a physio gave me food for thought. One of the most common complaints I hear from woman, is that their partner/hubby doesn't know how to touch them. While he might be a great man in many other ways, they crave a touch that he doesn't know how to give. So, where are all the physios, masseurs on fab? Your healing hands are in great demand. I have healing hands just need to a good man "how about a bad man  | |||
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"Lots of women come to me for massage. An earlier post this morning from a physio gave me food for thought. One of the most common complaints I hear from woman, is that their partner/hubby doesn't know how to touch them. While he might be a great man in many other ways, they crave a touch that he doesn't know how to give. So, where are all the physios, masseurs on fab? Your healing hands are in great demand. I have healing hands just need to a good man
how about a bad man "Could be considered | |||
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"Lots of women come to me for massage. An earlier post this morning from a physio gave me food for thought. One of the most common complaints I hear from woman, is that their partner/hubby doesn't know how to touch them. While he might be a great man in many other ways, they crave a touch that he doesn't know how to give. So, where are all the physios, masseurs on fab? Your healing hands are in great demand. " Surely this is a communication issue. For anyone, male or female, to understand their own pleasure, they must explore alone as well as be open with partner about how they like and want to be touched. I'm sure there are male partners that would say the exact same.. Forum posts from guys recently have included boring bjs and ejaculation issues. | |||
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"also got "I need a hero" stuck in my head now." Lol me too  ..
But yes OP touch is so very important and may be a skill that can be learned? | |||
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"Of course its a complaint someone going for a massage will make. It would be like a plumber saying "all my customers tell me their men dont know how to do the plumbing". I mean it just makes sense. Unless youre saying there is no skill to massage or pyshio and its basically a sham industry. Which I would also well believe." Are you serious? Professionals that study anatomy at length and are qualified in rehabilitation without the need for medication and surgery are a sham?? | |||
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"also got "I need a hero" stuck in my head now. Lol me too ..
But yes OP touch is so very important and may be a skill that can be learned? "Of course, its a great skill, is always appreciated, and you'll never be short of friends who want a shoulder rub. | |||
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"Of course its a complaint someone going for a massage will make. It would be like a plumber saying "all my customers tell me their men dont know how to do the plumbing". I mean it just makes sense. Unless youre saying there is no skill to massage or pyshio and its basically a sham industry. Which I would also well believe." Guess that 3 years in college was a waste of time than  | |||
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"Lots of women come to me for massage. An earlier post this morning from a physio gave me food for thought. One of the most common complaints I hear from woman, is that their partner/hubby doesn't know how to touch them. While he might be a great man in many other ways, they crave a touch that he doesn't know how to give. So, where are all the physios, masseurs on fab? Your healing hands are in great demand. " Ah, nobody touches the way you do J  | |||
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"Just another version of the white knights threads. If there was that much concern there’d be offers to teach men and women how to touch their partners "There's a great idea!! | |||
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"Guess that 3 years in college was a waste of time than "I wouldnt say that | |||
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" The greatest thing You'll ever learn Is just to love... And be loved in return... To give yourself time and lower your own barriers is the secret to being a generous lover " Aha.. Words of wisdom. | |||
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"Lots of women come to me for massage. An earlier post this morning from a physio gave me food for thought. One of the most common complaints I hear from woman, is that their partner/hubby doesn't know how to touch them. While he might be a great man in many other ways, they crave a touch that he doesn't know how to give. So, where are all the physios, masseurs on fab? Your healing hands are in great demand. Ah, nobody touches the way you do J " | |||
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"Just another version of the white knights threads. If there was that much concern there’d be offers to teach men and women how to touch their partners
There's a great idea!! "Tantra Actually was thinking of doing a course. Working away gives you plenty of spare time to fill in. Anything someone wanting to learn should look for? | |||
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"Just another version of the white knights threads. If there was that much concern there’d be offers to teach men and women how to touch their partners
There's a great idea!!
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Actually was thinking of doing a course. Working away gives you plenty of spare time to fill in.
Anything someone wanting to learn should look for?"If your in Belfast, there's a Body Conscious studio and my friend is starting a Tantra training soon. She's on Fb. | |||
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"also got "I need a hero" stuck in my head now." I came here just to say that! | |||
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"Lots of women come to me for massage. An earlier post this morning from a physio gave me food for thought. One of the most common complaints I hear from woman, is that their partner/hubby doesn't know how to touch them. While he might be a great man in many other ways, they crave a touch that he doesn't know how to give. So, where are all the physios, masseurs on fab? Your healing hands are in great demand. Surely this is a communication issue. For anyone, male or female, to understand their own pleasure, they must explore alone as well as be open with partner about how they like and want to be touched. I'm sure there are male partners that would say the exact same.. Forum posts from guys recently have included boring bjs and ejaculation issues. " Exactly, most people aren't mind-readers. | |||
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"Lots of women come to me for massage. An earlier post this morning from a physio gave me food for thought. One of the most common complaints I hear from woman, is that their partner/hubby doesn't know how to touch them. While he might be a great man in many other ways, they crave a touch that he doesn't know how to give. So, where are all the physios, masseurs on fab? Your healing hands are in great demand. " Soft gentle hands here... Book ASAP... | |||
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"Love massage but I'm useless at communication..some of us are not good at it..maybe my age but find asking for all things sexual very difficult..if I could just find a good mind reader "Mind reader? I reckon people need to slow down a bit and listen with their hands, become a body- reader! You can feel a lot of communication from someone's body even if they're not great with words (or are too polite to talk with their mouth full!) | |||
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"Just another version of the white knights threads. If there was that much concern there’d be offers to teach men and women how to touch their partners
There's a great idea!!
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Actually was thinking of doing a course. Working away gives you plenty of spare time to fill in.
Anything someone wanting to learn should look for?
If your in Belfast, there's a Body Conscious studio and my friend is starting a Tantra training soon. She's on Fb. "Many thanks for the info, will certainly look into that. | |||
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"This is a load of bollocks , my partner actually has to go to a physio and its not cause I don't know how to touch her , its cause she actually needs physiotherapy and I am not a physiotherapist , so idiots like you that think its just rub here and there might cause more damage to the person looking for your services . On another note , so if your partner has to call an electrician to sort out something , does that mean you can't spark her ? Or if there is need for a plumber ? Its cause you have no clue on how to work your pipe ? " Who you calling the idiot. The op has qualifications in massage etc. | |||
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"also got "I need a hero" stuck in my head now. Lol me too ..
But yes OP touch is so very important and may be a skill that can be learned? "The touch can always be learned! It’s the easiest thing to learn as a physiotherapist. It’s the other stuff in the 4 years of university that are hard! lol. I think partners should talk to each other and let each other know what they like etc. a bit more. Could solve a lot of issues? | |||
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"This is a load of bollocks , my partner actually has to go to a physio and its not cause I don't know how to touch her , its cause she actually needs physiotherapy and I am not a physiotherapist , so idiots like you that think its just rub here and there might cause more damage to the person looking for your services . On another note , so if your partner has to call an electrician to sort out something , does that mean you can't spark her ? Or if there is need for a plumber ? Its cause you have no clue on how to work your pipe ? Who you calling the idiot. The op has qualifications in massage etc. " Then if he is qualified then I double my calling him an idiot for coming here try to put other man down just cause they are not qualified massagists . And since I am a qualified CCTV operator and instaler , shall I start a thread about where are all the good men that can not provide their woman with a proper CCTV system , with cover of PTZ and few PIRS and just to top up the thrill some IRMD ? | |||
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"This is a load of bollocks , my partner actually has to go to a physio and its not cause I don't know how to touch her , its cause she actually needs physiotherapy and I am not a physiotherapist , so idiots like you that think its just rub here and there might cause more damage to the person looking for your services . On another note , so if your partner has to call an electrician to sort out something , does that mean you can't spark her ? Or if there is need for a plumber ? Its cause you have no clue on how to work your pipe ? Who you calling the idiot. The op has qualifications in massage etc. Then if he is qualified then I double my calling him an idiot for coming here try to put other man down just cause they are not qualified massagists . And since I am a qualified CCTV operator and instaler , shall I start a thread about where are all the good men that can not provide their woman with a proper CCTV system , with cover of PTZ and few PIRS and just to top up the thrill some IRMD ? " I don't think he put other guys down he just made an observation. Calm down | |||
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"Lots of women come to me for massage. An earlier post this morning from a physio gave me food for thought. One of the most common complaints I hear from woman, is that their partner/hubby doesn't know how to touch them. While he might be a great man in many other ways, they crave a touch that he doesn't know how to give. So, where are all the physios, masseurs on fab? Your healing hands are in great demand. " Those women are quite honestly assholes.... They would be better off telling their otherwise great partners than going to you for it, or at least involving them in the whole process, rather than sharing intimite details of their relationships with you . | |||
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" Those women are quite honestly assholes.... They would be better off telling their otherwise great partners than going to you for it, or at least involving them in the whole process, rather than sharing intimite details of their relationships with you ." That seems very harsh. Did it ever occur to you that maybe they tried to talk to their partners about it? Or that they even invited their partners to take part but were told no? I think most people deserve the benefit of the doubt. | |||
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" Those women are quite honestly assholes.... They would be better off telling their otherwise great partners than going to you for it, or at least involving them in the whole process, rather than sharing intimite details of their relationships with you . That seems very harsh. Did it ever occur to you that maybe they tried to talk to their partners about it? Or that they even invited their partners to take part but were told no? I think most people deserve the benefit of the doubt. " Don't think any assumptions should be made. Obviously each situation is totally different. Sometimes, no matter how much communication, it isn't always reciprocated in the right way. The chats could have been had and just not followed through. | |||
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" Those women are quite honestly assholes.... They would be better off telling their otherwise great partners than going to you for it, or at least involving them in the whole process, rather than sharing intimite details of their relationships with you . That seems very harsh. Did it ever occur to you that maybe they tried to talk to their partners about it? Or that they even invited their partners to take part but were told no? I think most people deserve the benefit of the doubt. " Does that include the male partners bring discussed in their absence? | |||
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" And since I am a qualified CCTV operator and instaler , shall I start a thread about where are all the good men that can not provide their woman with a proper CCTV system , with cover of PTZ and few PIRS and just to top up the thrill some IRMD ? " The last I checked CCTV wasn't a fundamental human need, like intimacy is. He's not saying that women come to him cos all men are shite in bed. Just that many struggle with the kind of intimacy that many women crave. Take a chill pill. | |||
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" Does that include the male partners bring discussed in their absence? " Yes, of course it does. I really don't think J is saying that hordes of women rock up to his door to slag off their husbands and call them useless pricks. That's why we have book clubs! I think it's more about women opening up to him in the safe space that he creates, much like they do with a therapist. And given that I know this man and have had massages with him before, I know for a fact that his response isn't to bitch about the partners, but to suggest ways that the woman he's talking to can help her partner to explore new ways of play for the benefit of their relationship. I actually think there's probably a few hundred husbands in Ireland that owe him a pint tbh. | |||
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" Those women are quite honestly assholes.... They would be better off telling their otherwise great partners than going to you for it, or at least involving them in the whole process, rather than sharing intimite details of their relationships with you . That seems very harsh. Did it ever occur to you that maybe they tried to talk to their partners about it? Or that they even invited their partners to take part but were told no? I think most people deserve the benefit of the doubt. " You last sentence is correct indeed, but something few fabbers apply in forums, profiles or when listening to what others say about people on here. It's just the way it is culture of mistrust as a defence mechanism. | |||
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"I think I’m missing something here... there is a big difference between a masseuse, a physio and the sexual touch between a man and a woman (be that a fun massage or otherwise). Just because someone goes for a _antra massage does not mean their partner doesn’t know how to please them. My understanding is the _antra massage, which requires training etc is meant to be a different experience. A physio session to meant I think to rehabilitate etc. It’s comparing apples and oranges and sex and if women are whining to a relative stranger about their partners it says a hell of a lot more about them and their relationship than about their partners." | |||
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" Those women are quite honestly assholes.... They would be better off telling their otherwise great partners than going to you for it, or at least involving them in the whole process, rather than sharing intimite details of their relationships with you . That seems very harsh. Did it ever occur to you that maybe they tried to talk to their partners about it? Or that they even invited their partners to take part but were told no? I think most people deserve the benefit of the doubt. " If it was a theripst session maybe but its a massage. If I was commited to someone I would hope they were not talking about my percieved short comings to a practicle stranger whilst recieving his services | |||
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" Does that include the male partners bring discussed in their absence? Yes, of course it does. I really don't think J is saying that hordes of women rock up to his door to slag off their husbands and call them useless pricks. That's why we have book clubs! I think it's more about women opening up to him in the safe space that he creates, much like they do with a therapist. And given that I know this man and have had massages with him before, I know for a fact that his response isn't to bitch about the partners, but to suggest ways that the woman he's talking to can help her partner to explore new ways of play for the benefit of their relationship. I actually think there's probably a few hundred husbands in Ireland that owe him a pint tbh. " | |||
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" If it was a theripst session maybe but its a massage. If I was commited to someone I would hope they were not talking about my percieved short comings to a practicle stranger whilst recieving his services" Pfft. I call bullshit on that. U think that a person has no right to ever talk about their relationship without their partner present? Even if they're unhappy? Even if they feel lonely? Even if they need a shoulder to cry on, or somebody who isn't in their life and is unbiased to just listen? Come on. | |||
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" If it was a theripst session maybe but its a massage. If I was commited to someone I would hope they were not talking about my percieved short comings to a practicle stranger whilst recieving his services Pfft. I call bullshit on that. U think that a person has no right to ever talk about their relationship without their partner present? Even if they're unhappy? Even if they feel lonely? Even if they need a shoulder to cry on, or somebody who isn't in their life and is unbiased to just listen? Come on. " They have a right to do as they please. Do I believe the right place to complain about how your partner touches you is to some dude giving you a massage? No | |||
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"Lots of women come to me for massage. An earlier post this morning from a physio gave me food for thought. One of the most common complaints I hear from woman, is that their partner/hubby doesn't know how to touch them. While he might be a great man in many other ways, they crave a touch that he doesn't know how to give. So, where are all the physios, masseurs on fab? Your healing hands are in great demand. " How the hell their partners must know how they like to be touched if they dont talk openly! Men might try to do it instinctively but it doesnt mean it will work! Only honest conversation about it will help. I didnt have many lovers in my life and never complained. Why? I always say honestly what gives me the pleasure. And I expect from my parter/FwB that he or she will tell me, guide me how he/ she likes to be touched, kissed, etc | |||
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" Does that include the male partners bring discussed in their absence? Yes, of course it does. I really don't think J is saying that hordes of women rock up to his door to slag off their husbands and call them useless pricks. That's why we have book clubs! I think it's more about women opening up to him in the safe space that he creates, much like they do with a therapist. And given that I know this man and have had massages with him before, I know for a fact that his response isn't to bitch about the partners, but to suggest ways that the woman he's talking to can help her partner to explore new ways of play for the benefit of their relationship. " My thoughts exactly! | |||
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"Well, this post has provoked lots of reaction. Many of you have refined my original post, and expressed it in a way that I might have, had I more time. And Doghunter, you are so erudite,.. I posted this as a follow on to an earlier post, and I see that someone else has followed on from this one. That's what forum discussions are about, to entertain, provoke, examine, enquire. So, if you have been stimulated by what I say here.. To me, that's a good days work. " Hahaha what a nice way of calling me a smartiepants, I know I'm a pain, I'm sorry for my bluntness, must be the continental blood. Anyhow on a serious note keep those posts coming, I do appreciate them. | |||
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