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"Such is life on here. Absolute time wasters the majority of them. There is obviously a few exceptions to the rule. We will both see you Friday either way. Cheers" Thanks for the nice message and we look forward to seeing you both on Friday Swinky | |||
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"https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/swinky-social-showcase-tickets-69170780667?utm-medium=discovery&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-source=strongmail&utm-term=listing Link to Eventbrite page for single male invites " So anyone can just go buy a ticket and you’ll allow them in? Also, I’d advise setting your eventbrite to no refunds as people will buy tickets and just get themselves a refund the day before if they decide not to go. | |||
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"Im sorry but it sadens me that as event orginisers u feel the need to impose such restrictions on one group over others This was a showcase event to promote ur new venture free to all going from other events experiences i woukd have expected that the same ticket system would be used for all groups as i am sure there will be many more no shows on the night Not saying ur frustrations are unfounded but this is a good looking addition to the scene and would hate to see it blackened (maybe not the right word)at such an early stage " We arranged to meet 30 men over 3 nights where we sat and waited for 2 hours each night. Only 50% of the men who swore they would come arrived. The others didn’t bother to turn up or tell us they weren’t coming. We don’t have time to sit around waiting on time wasters. Do you ? Swinky | |||
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"https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/swinky-social-showcase-tickets-69170780667?utm-medium=discovery&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-source=strongmail&utm-term=listing Link to Eventbrite page for single male invites So anyone can just go buy a ticket and you’ll allow them in? Also, I’d advise setting your eventbrite to no refunds as people will buy tickets and just get themselves a refund the day before if they decide not to go. " Anyone can buy a ticket but the venue will reserve the right of admittance the same as any other venue. There will be security and hosts on the night to manage this. We will take that on board and thank you for the helpful advice. Swinky. | |||
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"Ah OP bit unfair on the genuine single guys who actually showed up! "We gave them a shot and 50% didn’t show up after promising that they would. We sat around for 2 hours each night without any of them bothering to tell us they couldn’t come. Swinky. | |||
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"Seems you can buy trust now. Why don't you just charge everyone. Did 100% women and couples show last time? I doubt that. At what point do you begin to impose restrictions on a specific group? " This is our first event. Subsequent events will probably be paid events for everyone. We will manage our admittance policy as we see fit. Swinky. | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to!" This event is basically couples and females. We have 40 couples and close to 20 females and 12 males as of now. Swinky. | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to!" And what about the single ladies that dont play with couples or are not bi  | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to!" My friend and I run these social events over the past 2 yrs and many others have too and I have to say we have or don't make single men just through hoops just to attend a social. I've never seen other ppl do it either. To me how the op is handling the situation is utter nonsense and in no way porfessional atal. Posting location and ticket link on a public forum that can also be read by ppl not registered to fab is idiotic. | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to! And what about the single ladies that dont play with couples or are not bi " | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to! My friend and I run these social events over the past 2 yrs and many others have too and I have to say we have or don't make single men just through hoops just to attend a social. I've never seen other ppl do it either. To me how the op is handling the situation is utter nonsense and in no way porfessional atal. Posting location and ticket link on a public forum that can also be read by ppl not registered to fab is idiotic." You are entitled to your opinion. We tried to give men a chance and they abused it for the free invites. If we left it open to anyone we would have 100 men and nobody else. This is our venue and our event and how we run it is our business. We respect you have an opinion that you are entitled to but we are entitled to run our event in any way we please. Swinky | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to! My friend and I run these social events over the past 2 yrs and many others have too and I have to say we have or don't make single men just through hoops just to attend a social. I've never seen other ppl do it either. To me how the op is handling the situation is utter nonsense and in no way porfessional atal. Posting location and ticket link on a public forum that can also be read by ppl not registered to fab is idiotic." Arranging to meet single men before the event to get the ops approval doesnt sit right with me either. Judging them before the event just puts added pressure on them. No wonder half didnt turn up. All this negativity for single men I'm surprised any turn up. Are you going to do that for every event you run? | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to! My friend and I run these social events over the past 2 yrs and many others have too and I have to say we have or don't make single men just through hoops just to attend a social. I've never seen other ppl do it either. To me how the op is handling the situation is utter nonsense and in no way porfessional atal. Posting location and ticket link on a public forum that can also be read by ppl not registered to fab is idiotic." As to posting the location, we don't mind people knowing where the event is being held. Our venue is fully licensed as a bar and can hold 500 people and we will have security and event hosts / hostesses on the night to make sure that only people on the guest list or with a valid Eventbrite ticket will get in. | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to! My friend and I run these social events over the past 2 yrs and many others have too and I have to say we have or don't make single men just through hoops just to attend a social. I've never seen other ppl do it either. To me how the op is handling the situation is utter nonsense and in no way porfessional atal. Posting location and ticket link on a public forum that can also be read by ppl not registered to fab is idiotic. You are entitled to your opinion. We tried to give men a chance and they abused it for the free invites. If we left it open to anyone we would have 100 men and nobody else. This is our venue and our event and how we run it is our business. We respect you have an opinion that you are entitled to but we are entitled to run our event in any way we please. Swinky" Why feel the need to explain yourself then? | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to! My friend and I run these social events over the past 2 yrs and many others have too and I have to say we have or don't make single men just through hoops just to attend a social. I've never seen other ppl do it either. To me how the op is handling the situation is utter nonsense and in no way porfessional atal. Posting location and ticket link on a public forum that can also be read by ppl not registered to fab is idiotic. As to posting the location, we don't mind people knowing where the event is being held. Our venue is fully licensed as a bar and can hold 500 people and we will have security and event hosts / hostesses on the night to make sure that only people on the guest list or with a valid Eventbrite ticket will get in. " Are you not concerned about journalists? This forum is public and therefore fully viewable to non members. | |||
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"Im sorry but it sadens me that as event orginisers u feel the need to impose such restrictions on one group over others This was a showcase event to promote ur new venture free to all going from other events experiences i woukd have expected that the same ticket system would be used for all groups as i am sure there will be many more no shows on the night Not saying ur frustrations are unfounded but this is a good looking addition to the scene and would hate to see it blackened (maybe not the right word)at such an early stage We arranged to meet 30 men over 3 nights where we sat and waited for 2 hours each night. Only 50% of the men who swore they would come arrived. The others didn’t bother to turn up or tell us they weren’t coming. We don’t have time to sit around waiting on time wasters. Do you ? Swinky " Please dont take this as an attack it is meant to be constructive I can see where ur coming from about the 50% turn up this is a well known fact when arranging partys and events even simple as some may think mfm you always need a second
I should probally have mentioned an event coming up in sept where it is ticket only these are €20.00 and on the night when u arrive u will be issued with a twenty euro voucher redeemable behind the bar for drinks or cash back.
While every one pays the sane u only benifit if u actually turn up and again this is only a social
Every group is treated the same thats all I am suggestiong equality | |||
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"Im sorry but it sadens me that as event orginisers u feel the need to impose such restrictions on one group over others This was a showcase event to promote ur new venture free to all going from other events experiences i woukd have expected that the same ticket system would be used for all groups as i am sure there will be many more no shows on the night Not saying ur frustrations are unfounded but this is a good looking addition to the scene and would hate to see it blackened (maybe not the right word)at such an early stage We arranged to meet 30 men over 3 nights where we sat and waited for 2 hours each night. Only 50% of the men who swore they would come arrived. The others didn’t bother to turn up or tell us they weren’t coming. We don’t have time to sit around waiting on time wasters. Do you ? Swinky Please dont take this as an attack it is meant to be constructive I can see where ur coming from about the 50% turn up this is a well known fact when arranging partys and events even simple as some may think mfm you always need a second
I should probally have mentioned an event coming up in sept where it is ticket only these are €20.00 and on the night when u arrive u will be issued with a twenty euro voucher redeemable behind the bar for drinks or cash back.
While every one pays the sane u only benifit if u actually turn up and again this is only a social
Every group is treated the same thats all I am suggestiong equality "That's a very good idea with the vouchers and we will look into that after this weekend when the dust settles . All constructive comments are much appreciated.Holding a social with 100 people is not easy to organize but we will learn as we go. Swinky | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to! My friend and I run these social events over the past 2 yrs and many others have too and I have to say we have or don't make single men just through hoops just to attend a social. I've never seen other ppl do it either. To me how the op is handling the situation is utter nonsense and in no way porfessional atal. Posting location and ticket link on a public forum that can also be read by ppl not registered to fab is idiotic. As to posting the location, we don't mind people knowing where the event is being held. Our venue is fully licensed as a bar and can hold 500 people and we will have security and event hosts / hostesses on the night to make sure that only people on the guest list or with a valid Eventbrite ticket will get in. Are you not concerned about journalists? This forum is public and therefore fully viewable to non members. " It is nearly impossible to eliminate the presence of journalists but what will they be reporting on ? We are holding a social showcase to show people a venue where they might like to hire the space for anything they might want the space for. We are not holing a party, we are merely showing people a venue which might be suitable for the events they might want to hold, from birthdays to anniversaries to workshops to anything else you can think of. There is a normal dress code on the night and there will be no 'play' or 'dress up' or nudity on the night. So what will they actually report on ? Swinky | |||
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"I find it strange that you won’t explain why you blocked me without a fair chance to attend your event it’s not like I didn’t show up as I wasn’t told we to meet for the social " The fact that you’re not letting it drop is enough lol. I’m sure they have their reasons they don’t really owe you an explanation | |||
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"I find it strange that you won’t explain why you blocked me without a fair chance to attend your event it’s not like I didn’t show up as I wasn’t told we to meet for the social " You were blocked for the constant messaging which got annoying to the person replying to them. | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to! My friend and I run these social events over the past 2 yrs and many others have too and I have to say we have or don't make single men just through hoops just to attend a social. I've never seen other ppl do it either. To me how the op is handling the situation is utter nonsense and in no way porfessional atal. Posting location and ticket link on a public forum that can also be read by ppl not registered to fab is idiotic. As to posting the location, we don't mind people knowing where the event is being held. Our venue is fully licensed as a bar and can hold 500 people and we will have security and event hosts / hostesses on the night to make sure that only people on the guest list or with a valid Eventbrite ticket will get in. Are you not concerned about journalists? This forum is public and therefore fully viewable to non members. It is nearly impossible to eliminate the presence of journalists but what will they be reporting on ? We are holding a social showcase to show people a venue where they might like to hire the space for anything they might want the space for. We are not holing a party, we are merely showing people a venue which might be suitable for the events they might want to hold, from birthdays to anniversaries to workshops to anything else you can think of. There is a normal dress code on the night and there will be no 'play' or 'dress up' or nudity on the night. So what will they actually report on ? Swinky" That fact that you’re organising it on a swingers site is enough for certain news outlets. Do you really think they need a well rounded story to report on? | |||
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"I find it strange that you won’t explain why you blocked me without a fair chance to attend your event it’s not like I didn’t show up as I wasn’t told we to meet for the social " Dude, stop trying to contact them. They have blocked you. You can't come on the forum and try and contact them. You'll get a ban if reported. | |||
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"Im sorry but it sadens me that as event orginisers u feel the need to impose such restrictions on one group over others This was a showcase event to promote ur new venture free to all going from other events experiences i woukd have expected that the same ticket system would be used for all groups as i am sure there will be many more no shows on the night Not saying ur frustrations are unfounded but this is a good looking addition to the scene and would hate to see it blackened (maybe not the right word)at such an early stage We arranged to meet 30 men over 3 nights where we sat and waited for 2 hours each night. Only 50% of the men who swore they would come arrived. The others didn’t bother to turn up or tell us they weren’t coming. We don’t have time to sit around waiting on time wasters. Do you ? Swinky Please dont take this as an attack it is meant to be constructive I can see where ur coming from about the 50% turn up this is a well known fact when arranging partys and events even simple as some may think mfm you always need a second
I should probally have mentioned an event coming up in sept where it is ticket only these are €20.00 and on the night when u arrive u will be issued with a twenty euro voucher redeemable behind the bar for drinks or cash back.
While every one pays the sane u only benifit if u actually turn up and again this is only a social
Every group is treated the same thats all I am suggestiong equality
That's a very good idea with the vouchers and we will look into that after this weekend when the dust settles . All constructive comments are much appreciated.Holding a social with 100 people is not easy to organize but we will learn as we go.
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"That’s fine I’ll let it drop so I would just have liken to know why it’s not like I am a time waster I’ve been to swingers events in the uk b4 like " Again as has been explained to you more than 3 times, this is NOT a Swingers event. This is a Social Showcase of an event venue. | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to! My friend and I run these social events over the past 2 yrs and many others have too and I have to say we have or don't make single men just through hoops just to attend a social. I've never seen other ppl do it either. To me how the op is handling the situation is utter nonsense and in no way porfessional atal. Posting location and ticket link on a public forum that can also be read by ppl not registered to fab is idiotic. As to posting the location, we don't mind people knowing where the event is being held. Our venue is fully licensed as a bar and can hold 500 people and we will have security and event hosts / hostesses on the night to make sure that only people on the guest list or with a valid Eventbrite ticket will get in. Are you not concerned about journalists? This forum is public and therefore fully viewable to non members. It is nearly impossible to eliminate the presence of journalists but what will they be reporting on ? We are holding a social showcase to show people a venue where they might like to hire the space for anything they might want the space for. We are not holing a party, we are merely showing people a venue which might be suitable for the events they might want to hold, from birthdays to anniversaries to workshops to anything else you can think of. There is a normal dress code on the night and there will be no 'play' or 'dress up' or nudity on the night. So what will they actually report on ? Swinky That fact that you’re organising it on a swingers site is enough for certain news outlets. Do you really think they need a well rounded story to report on?" We can't stop them coming if they really want to get in they will. All they will see is people in a lovely bar /venue having drinks and mingling. If that's newsworthy then so be it. It will only give our venue which we are showcasing some free advertising. Swinky | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to! My friend and I run these social events over the past 2 yrs and many others have too and I have to say we have or don't make single men just through hoops just to attend a social. I've never seen other ppl do it either. To me how the op is handling the situation is utter nonsense and in no way porfessional atal. Posting location and ticket link on a public forum that can also be read by ppl not registered to fab is idiotic."  | |||
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"Im sorry but it sadens me that as event orginisers u feel the need to impose such restrictions on one group over others This was a showcase event to promote ur new venture free to all going from other events experiences i woukd have expected that the same ticket system would be used for all groups as i am sure there will be many more no shows on the night Not saying ur frustrations are unfounded but this is a good looking addition to the scene and would hate to see it blackened (maybe not the right word)at such an early stage We arranged to meet 30 men over 3 nights where we sat and waited for 2 hours each night. Only 50% of the men who swore they would come arrived. The others didn’t bother to turn up or tell us they weren’t coming. We don’t have time to sit around waiting on time wasters. Do you ? Swinky Please dont take this as an attack it is meant to be constructive I can see where ur coming from about the 50% turn up this is a well known fact when arranging partys and events even simple as some may think mfm you always need a second
I should probally have mentioned an event coming up in sept where it is ticket only these are €20.00 and on the night when u arrive u will be issued with a twenty euro voucher redeemable behind the bar for drinks or cash back.
While every one pays the sane u only benifit if u actually turn up and again this is only a social
Every group is treated the same thats all I am suggestiong equality
That's a very good idea with the vouchers and we will look into that after this weekend when the dust settles . All constructive comments are much appreciated.Holding a social with 100 people is not easy to organize but we will learn as we go.
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Great to see u taibg it on board i thought i was a great idea those that doncoverage turn up pay the penalty its only fair they prevented someone else attending
Have a great first night and i hope in future I may get a chance to apply for a ticket to what sounds like something right up my street "Thank you for your constructive comments and we would love to have you attend one of our events in the future. They might not be prepaid events if we can find a way to stop time wasters taking up invites and not showing up. The voucher idea is a very good one, thank you for it. Swinky | |||
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"It’s their event and their rules. If these events were easy to run there would be a lot more of them. We all KNOW that most single men on here are time wasters, this isn’t news. OP could actually save himself a whole pile of hassle by making the events couples and ladies only, THAT’S an event we would go to!" As a single woman I'd have zero interest in attending any swing event that was couples and women only. | |||
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"Really quite confused about these events though Swinky... There's a munch on Thurs, a showcase on Friday and a Showcase on Sunday? Or is the Sunday cancelled now? Also don't see why you need to charge or vet anyone to attend a venue showcase where there will be no play and is, by your admission, an advert for your venue for event organisers? Well said was thinking the same myself it seems you have to jump through hoops to get an invite and even as a single guy you never get invite seems to be very limited I understand the numbers have to match up but there’s socials been set up but you have to be well verified that’s crazy 100% in favour of advance ticketing and vetting for actual swing and kink events because it ensures a proper gender balance and safety... But don't see why it's necessary in this instance. "  | |||
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"? We can't stop them coming if they really want to get in they will. All they will see is people in a lovely bar /venue having drinks and mingling. If that's newsworthy then so be it. It will only give our venue which we are showcasing some free advertising. Swinky" OK. So contrary to popular belief I HATE to be negative and really am loath to be down on somebody attempting to bring something new to the Fab community but honestly I have to ask.... 1. You keep harping on about this great new venue... Which for all intents and purposes appears to be a a pub? Open to the public? 2. You're allowing 20 unverified unvetted single males attend if they pay? So you're charging them to walk into a public house? 3. You've posted the EXACT location of this pub on the forums and on your status as a means to attract your 20 unvetted and unverified men? 4. Two seconds of Googling have confirmed that this great new venue is in fact a pub, open to the public. You say it holds 500 but are offering "100 tickets" so the rest of the people there will be civilians? 5. Despite your talk of event security and privacy assessments you're happy for any Tom, Dick or Harry to attend as long as they pay a fee? 6. You also don't seem to be concerned about journalists attending, saying it will only bring publicity to this great new venue. Which again is a pub. Open to the public. Which anyone can walk in. Which you've posted the location to. Um. Really? Sorry OP but this is not only hugely irresponsible to those who want to attend but also to the community at large. Best of luck and I hope it works out for everyone involved and ye have a blast... But... Yeesh. | |||
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"True. But why the need from the Op to come across as arrogant & rude in the replies to some valid questions & views? Its a real couldnt give a sh1t approach & shows a lack of respect. Thats how it comes across from my reading of it. " Maybe I'm dim but how did they come across as arrogant or rude? The replies were in no way disrespectful in my opinion. Not trying to fight with you, maybe I'm missing something? | |||
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"Such is life on here. Absolute time wasters the majority of them. There is obviously a few exceptions to the rule. We will both see you Friday either way. Cheers" Unfortunately as well is that the time wasters make it a whole lot harder for genuine males to meet. | |||
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"Due to the amount of time wasting men who were given the opportunity to attend our first event for free, who swore blind they wouldn't let us down but then did, all Swinky events from now on will be prepaid events for single males. We tried to give men on here a chance only to be let down by 50% of those who said they definitely wouldn't let us down. Because of this the showcase on Friday the 16th is now a prepaid event for males and it will have a charge for them to come. Also,all future events will be prepaid events most likely through Eventbrite. This is not how we wanted to progress as we wanted to give single males here a fair chance but that has changed now. Males can and will attend our events but they will prepay for the privilege. We are sorry to those who think that's unfair but we gave a chance and it was abused. If you would like to attend our social on Friday 16th where there will be over 40 couples and 20 females in attendance then register your interest here. It will be a prepaid event though. Regards Swinky " Right decision to make. Unfortunately as well is that the time wasters make it a whole lot harder for genuine males to meet. | |||
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"True. But why the need from the Op to come across as arrogant & rude in the replies to some valid questions & views? Its a real couldnt give a sh1t approach & shows a lack of respect. Thats how it comes across from my reading of it. Maybe I'm dim but how did they come across as arrogant or rude? The replies were in no way disrespectful in my opinion. Not trying to fight with you, maybe I'm missing something? " Im sure your not dim or missing something. i see it 1 way you see it the other. Thats pretty much what it boils down to. Enjoy the event. | |||
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"Due to the amount of time wasting men who were given the opportunity to attend our first event for free, who swore blind they wouldn't let us down but then did, all Swinky events from now on will be prepaid events for single males. We tried to give men on here a chance only to be let down by 50% of those who said they definitely wouldn't let us down. Because of this the showcase on Friday the 16th is now a prepaid event for males and it will have a charge for them to come. Also,all future events will be prepaid events most likely through Eventbrite. This is not how we wanted to progress as we wanted to give single males here a fair chance but that has changed now. Males can and will attend our events but they will prepay for the privilege. We are sorry to those who think that's unfair but we gave a chance and it was abused. If you would like to attend our social on Friday 16th where there will be over 40 couples and 20 females in attendance then register your interest here. It will be a prepaid event though. Regards Swinky Right decision to make. Unfortunately as well is that the time wasters make it a whole lot harder for genuine males to meet. "How does it?? A guy not turning up to an event or meet only gives himself a bad name, if u do as u say and say as u do no one can doubth ur efforts. believe me reputations here are easily destroyed by not doing as u say u will Reliable guys become popular at dvents Nd find doors open alot easier to other events worry about what u do and let others worry a bout themselves | |||
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"If there are guys out there willing to pay when everyone.else is free let them off, its no different to the local bar having a ladies night. What I dont understand is why you would pay €20 for a location "showcase"... its like paying a company to pitch to you. I mean its 100% not a swingers event right?" This exactly. As I said, 100% in favour of this policy for actual play events but the messaging here is very confusing. Also, standard rule of thumb for organising free events is you get 1\3 to 1\2 of actual attendees vs sign ups. 300 dudes aren't gonna show up to a non-play event if you make it clear that it's a non-play event to advertise a venue. It's interesting that the organisers think that 300 clicks on Fab means 300 randy men at their event. You'd be lucky to get 50. You'd struggle to get 50! Needless to say I won't be attending, although I had planned to go to the munch tonight. I already have an angry message in my DMs from the organisers in response to my absolutely innocent initial query. I hope the organisers take a step back, seek advice from some experienced event organisers, and come back and wow us all with the most successful kink and swing events the world has ever seen. I'll be delighted to be proven wrong. | |||
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"Of course it's the right decision. We have about 10 guys who are "definitely" going to show up on Saturday night and it will be very interesting to see how many actually do" Are you involved in organising this event? Your profile has a meet request for a hotel in Castlebar on the same night. ? You're a busy man. | |||
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"To be fair to genuine guys who actually show up, it would be very easy to charge guys a 20 euro 'deposit' to attend, which will be reimbursed at the door on entry. That way everybody wins. " This idea is catching on I think. Simple and effective. | |||
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"To be fair to genuine guys who actually show up, it would be very easy to charge guys a 20 euro 'deposit' to attend, which will be reimbursed at the door on entry. That way everybody wins. " Much better idea and very fair | |||
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"To be fair to genuine guys who actually show up, it would be very easy to charge guys a 20 euro 'deposit' to attend, which will be reimbursed at the door on entry. That way everybody wins. " Great idea | |||
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"To be fair to genuine guys who actually show up, it would be very easy to charge guys a 20 euro 'deposit' to attend, which will be reimbursed at the door on entry. That way everybody wins. " Intelligence and reason speaks! 
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"To be fair to genuine guys who actually show up, it would be very easy to charge guys a 20 euro 'deposit' to attend, which will be reimbursed at the door on entry. That way everybody wins. " Excellent idea. We will adopt that for any events we hold in the future. Thank you for a great idea. Swinky | |||
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"I cant believe guys are still paying out to walk into a public bar "It is not a public bar. The bar beside it is a public bar and anyone can walk into that. The event venue is a private bar which is not open to the public except for events and special occasions Swinky. | |||
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"I cant believe guys are still paying out to walk into a public bar "Do they even realise it's only the lads that are paying to go look around a public bar to maybe hire out in the future. Op did point out it's not a swingers social event merely showcasing a venue.. | |||
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"I cant believe guys are still paying out to walk into a public bar
It is not a public bar. The bar beside it is a public bar and anyone can walk into that. The event venue is a private bar which is not open to the public except for events and special occasions
Swinky. "I must admit you have given mixed messages on the forums. You've said it's a showcase night but does that mean you've mixed swingers in with general public? As your not worried about the press getting involved I'm confused. Are you going to have play areas for future events or is it just social? | |||
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It is not a public bar. The bar beside it is a public bar and anyone can walk into that. The event venue is a private bar which is not open to the public except for events and special occasions
Swinky. "And thats all well and good but its only single guys that are paying an entry fee while its a free event to others even though a reasonably fair ticketing system being used by other events was pointed out to ye two days ago which u chose to adopt after the weekend I know Im here for a ride but thats riding guys bareback if theres guys willing to bd rode off with ye | |||
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"This is a social showcase to promote the venue to anyone who might want to hire the space. 40 couples are coming from here, some females and hundreds of men wanted to come. " Yes we know all that and u need a way to keep the balance so u decided to charge single guys ur perogitive A sugestion to help u deal with the problem was made to you two days ago which seemed to be a more balanced way to keep the balance Why did u not just say as a promoter ull pick the guys to go and only invite those who u know will turn up rather thzn treating on segment of fab with utter distain No one could say a word if u had hand picked the guys its a method already used by event promoters like KK and heidnosimNI Sorry i just believe in equality | |||
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"So it's an events place? Not a swinging club or just for swingers? So the crowd tonight will be mixed? Out of the 40 odd that are coming from here how many run socials/ meet and greets? Are you solely advertising it on fab?" It’s a big bar which is only opened for events or special occasions. It is not a swingers club or just for swingers. Yes the crowd will be mixed tonight. A few. No it’s not solely promoted on fab. | |||
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"So it's an events place? Not a swinging club or just for swingers? So the crowd tonight will be mixed? Out of the 40 odd that are coming from here how many run socials/ meet and greets? Are you solely advertising it on fab?" With the address posted it's easy to find so been a very public forum I'm sure it won't just be fab and FL tox. | |||
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"So it's an events place? Not a swinging club or just for swingers? So the crowd tonight will be mixed? Out of the 40 odd that are coming from here how many run socials/ meet and greets? Are you solely advertising it on fab? With the address posted it's easy to find so been a very public forum I'm sure it won't just be fab and FL tox." I hope the business works out for them but do feel that they should have made it clear that it just wasn't going to be swingers at their showcase night. That changes things alot. Maybe they should have concentrated on building an events place without involving swinging....then introduced it to social organizers on here. | |||
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"So it's an events place? Not a swinging club or just for swingers? So the crowd tonight will be mixed? Out of the 40 odd that are coming from here how many run socials/ meet and greets? Are you solely advertising it on fab? With the address posted it's easy to find so been a very public forum I'm sure it won't just be fab and FL tox." Anyone can go into the public bar beside the venue. Only people on the guest list or with Eventbrite tickets will get into the venue. | |||
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"So it's an events place? Not a swinging club or just for swingers? So the crowd tonight will be mixed? Out of the 40 odd that are coming from here how many run socials/ meet and greets? Are you solely advertising it on fab? With the address posted it's easy to find so been a very public forum I'm sure it won't just be fab and FL tox. I hope the business works out for them but do feel that they should have made it clear that it just wasn't going to be swingers at their showcase night. That changes things alot. Maybe they should have concentrated on building an events place without involving swinging....then introduced it to social organizers on here. " The only people at the Friday showcase are people from fab. We held a showcase last night and have another one after the one tonight. Tonight will only be people from fab. Mostly fab couples. | |||
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"So it's an events place? Not a swinging club or just for swingers? So the crowd tonight will be mixed? Out of the 40 odd that are coming from here how many run socials/ meet and greets? Are you solely advertising it on fab? With the address posted it's easy to find so been a very public forum I'm sure it won't just be fab and FL tox. I hope the business works out for them but do feel that they should have made it clear that it just wasn't going to be swingers at their showcase night. That changes things alot. Maybe they should have concentrated on building an events place without involving swinging....then introduced it to social organizers on here. The only people at the Friday showcase are people from fab. We held a showcase last night and have another one after the one tonight. Tonight will only be people from fab. Mostly fab couples. " "It’s a big bar which is only opened for events or special occasions. It is not a swingers club or just for swingers. Yes the crowd will be mixed tonight. A few. No it’s not solely promoted on fab." Your words......says there its mixed | |||
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"So it's an events place? Not a swinging club or just for swingers? So the crowd tonight will be mixed? Out of the 40 odd that are coming from here how many run socials/ meet and greets? Are you solely advertising it on fab? With the address posted it's easy to find so been a very public forum I'm sure it won't just be fab and FL tox. I hope the business works out for them but do feel that they should have made it clear that it just wasn't going to be swingers at their showcase night. That changes things alot. Maybe they should have concentrated on building an events place without involving swinging....then introduced it to social organizers on here. The only people at the Friday showcase are people from fab. We held a showcase last night and have another one after the one tonight. Tonight will only be people from fab. Mostly fab couples. "It’s a big bar which is only opened for events or special occasions. It is not a swingers club or just for swingers. Yes the crowd will be mixed tonight. A few. No it’s not solely promoted on fab." Your words......says there its mixed" Mixed meaning three will be fab couples, fab women and fab men. Everyone will be from Fab. Other sites have different nights for their showcase. The only people coming tonight will be from Fab. | |||
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"Congratulations and best wishes on your venture. I used to run a swingers Club in Dublin years ago. We encountered all the difficulties you're experiencing. We fine tuned the attendance to couples only. No single men. It worked and we had no problems after that. " Its not a swingers club though it's a public bar "venue" Been showcased for hire just like any extra room in any other public pub all over. | |||
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"Congratulations and best wishes on your venture. I used to run a swingers Club in Dublin years ago. We encountered all the difficulties you're experiencing. We fine tuned the attendance to couples only. No single men. It worked and we had no problems after that. " It's not a swinging club......from my understanding It's an events place | |||
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"Congratulations and best wishes on your venture. I used to run a swingers Club in Dublin years ago. We encountered all the difficulties you're experiencing. We fine tuned the attendance to couples only. No single men. It worked and we had no problems after that. " Thank you for your kind words and positive comments. We are learning as we go and we are thinking that couples only will be the way forward. It would just make things easier. Swinky | |||
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"Congratulations and best wishes on your venture. I used to run a swingers Club in Dublin years ago. We encountered all the difficulties you're experiencing. We fine tuned the attendance to couples only. No single men. It worked and we had no problems after that. Its not a swingers club though it's a public bar "venue" Been showcased for hire just like any extra room in any other public pub all over." It is not a public bar. It is a separate bar which is not open to the public. Which part of that do you not understand? Again | |||
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"I dont mean to be awkward but you have advertise it on here as a swinging place and think that's where the confusion has come from. You have twisted the facts from the start. As you already know fabbers can be very suspicious. I know myself from experience that I will not attend a social where the public and swinging is mixed. You have no idea who your talking to. One of the reasons I stopped going to meet and greets in dublin. I wish you all the best but do tink you need to be more clearer "Thank you. We will use this as a learning experience and adjust accordingly for anymore events we hold. | |||
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"Just looking at your verifications You only have 4 .. 3 of which are only 2 weeks ago . That also says something about the experience ye have trying to run s business through fab .. " And one of them is them from the guy running it himself (a single male no less) oh the irony of it all  | |||
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"Just looking at your verifications You only have 4 .. 3 of which are only 2 weeks ago . That also says something about the experience ye have trying to run s business through fab .. And one of them is them from the guy running it himself (a single male no less) oh the irony of it all "I seen that crossover also with some of the pics | |||
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"Just looking at your verifications You only have 4 .. 3 of which are only 2 weeks ago . That also says something about the experience ye have trying to run s business through fab .. And one of them is them from the guy running it himself (a single male no less) oh the irony of it all rof I seen that crossover also with some of the pics " A few sharp eyed Detectives on here can reveal lots of useful information . Well done guys | |||
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"So is tonight’s meet and greet in a public bar ??? Are we getting name tags and fab swinger badges to see who’s who. Swinger / general public ?????? " ---------------- That's the whole fun of the event mate... You get to chat to random couples there
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"Just thought I'd post this here also for anyone who is interested in how it went . We were at last nights social event held by Swinky. The night did not go to plan with the amount of people who turned up was a bit of a let down which I'm sure Mr Swinky will be first to admit. There where some issues that we had a chance to ask Mr Swinky about and one of them was charging single guys for entry and he agreed that it should be done on a deposit basis in the future . That said maybe he should have charged the couples as most of them didn't bother turning up and most if not all the single guys turned up which was refreshing . As for the venue we see in the forums alot people looking for the best bars in dublin for meeting swingers, well this could potentially be a brilliant venue for Dublin first alternative life style bar. The place is very big and could easily hold 250-300+ . We've all been to socials were the venue is too small and there is no room to move and the music is so loud you cant even chat to people properly and it can be hard to distinguish who is part of the social and who isn't. This venue is a proper full bar with it's own entrance with it's own security on the door to ensure privacy and discretion for all. Although the night was not a roaring success anyone organizing any social or party events should be encouraged and not shot down or to be taken cheap shots at . We are a small community and we are all here for the same reasons so lighten up and just have some fun people. We are looking forward to the next event you organise OP . R&Pxx" We are a small community, yes, but the op publicly ostracized the biggest part of it all week. | |||
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"I find it strange that you won’t explain why you blocked me without a fair chance to attend your event it’s not like I didn’t show up as I wasn’t told we to meet for the social The fact that you’re not letting it drop is enough lol. I’m sure they have their reasons they don’t really owe you an explanation " | |||
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"We have to read forum more often as we had no clue of all the issues like turns out couple is a single man, discretion issue, tickets purchase (wasn't that free entry?) and so on...we learn everyday, don't we? We've been, we've seen and now we are confused. Definitely not thought through quick decision but we still in one piece, lol Location is quiet, old bar, nice, classic with huge potential, that's all we can say in that matter. We left very soon after arrival as there was only few people at the bar. Organisation needs a lot of more work for sure. Good luck in the future." Good description above. Hopefully they'll learn from mistakes. We did manage to have a very naughty night and saturday morning with a lovely Spanish guy though. | |||
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"We have to read forum more often as we had no clue of all the issues like turns out couple is a single man, discretion issue, tickets purchase (wasn't that free entry?) and so on...we learn everyday, don't we? We've been, we've seen and now we are confused. Definitely not thought through quick decision but we still in one piece, lol Location is quiet, old bar, nice, classic with huge potential, that's all we can say in that matter. We left very soon after arrival as there was only few people at the bar. Organisation needs a lot of more work for sure. Good luck in the future." Ps how did we miss you two lol | |||
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"We have to read forum more often as we had no clue of all the issues like turns out couple is a single man, discretion issue, tickets purchase (wasn't that free entry?) and so on...we learn everyday, don't we? We've been, we've seen and now we are confused. Definitely not thought through quick decision but we still in one piece, lol Location is quiet, old bar, nice, classic with huge potential, that's all we can say in that matter. We left very soon after arrival as there was only few people at the bar. Organisation needs a lot of more work for sure. Good luck in the future. Ps how did we miss you two lol" Maybe as we left pretty early. But we were sitting next to the entrance. Him: baldy, white shirt, rusty trousers. Her: brunette, black dress and fishnet tights. | |||
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"Hopefully this fail event will not deter others from organising "meet & greet" socials. " The failed event might not deter people but having the venue named on a public forum might. Vintage, it would be greatly appreciated if you could delete your post on the other swinky thread. Many thanks in advance. | |||
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"Despite the Swinky event being a unmitigated failure, the general interest in the event & similar events does show that fabbers welcome the opportunity to meet in a social surrounding, indeed the organised social meet may be preferable to message ping pong & endless coffee meets. Hopefully this fail event will not deter others from organising "meet & greet" socials. " It will not deter anyone, posting the location will though. | |||
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"Despite the Swinky event being a unmitigated failure, the general interest in the event & similar events does show that fabbers welcome the opportunity to meet in a social surrounding, indeed the organised social meet may be preferable to message ping pong & endless coffee meets. Hopefully this fail event will not deter others from organising "meet & greet" socials. It will not deter anyone, posting the location will though. "Sure the Hosts posted it cause they don’t mind the attraction it brings | |||
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"Despite the Swinky event being a unmitigated failure, the general interest in the event & similar events does show that fabbers welcome the opportunity to meet in a social surrounding, indeed the organised social meet may be preferable to message ping pong & endless coffee meets. Hopefully this fail event will not deter others from organising "meet & greet" socials. It will not deter anyone, posting the location will though.
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"Hopefully this fail event will not deter others from organising "meet & greet" socials. The failed event might not deter people but having the venue named on a public forum might. Vintage, it would be greatly appreciated if you could delete your post on the other swinky thread. Many thanks in advance. " I have asked admin to remove my post naming the venue | |||
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"Everyone jumping the gun here the host did say they have security and its tickets etc. In all honestly who actually gives a toss if the place was named. The last time a swingers place was in the media people actually laughed not at us but at the papers. No body was in it no photos where in it. And as for the host I highly doubt is gonna have unwanted guests there. Stop moaning and get over it. And fair play to the host for trying and kicking off a new venue takes guts and a lot of effort. An no im not playing the lick arse game either I am simply saying leave the hosts alone. Ffs "You really should read both threads before you make assumptions and rant. | |||
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"Everyone jumping the gun here the host did say they have security and its tickets etc. In all honestly who actually gives a toss if the place was named. The last time a swingers place was in the media people actually laughed not at us but at the papers. No body was in it no photos where in it. And as for the host I highly doubt is gonna have unwanted guests there. Stop moaning and get over it. And fair play to the host for trying and kicking off a new venue takes guts and a lot of effort. An no im not playing the lick arse game either I am simply saying leave the hosts alone. Ffs
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"what kind of dickhead have we got here outing places fuck sake. " jesus chocko, wheres the respect? | |||
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"Hopefully this fail event will not deter others from organising "meet & greet" socials. The failed event might not deter people but having the venue named on a public forum might. Vintage, it would be greatly appreciated if you could delete your post on the other swinky thread. Many thanks in advance. I have asked admin to remove my post naming the venue" bit late isn't it? But it was obvious where it is tbh. To what hosts posted online just saying | |||
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"Everyone jumping the gun here the host did say they have security and its tickets etc. In all honestly who actually gives a toss if the place was named. The last time a swingers place was in the media people actually laughed not at us but at the papers. No body was in it no photos where in it. And as for the host I highly doubt is gonna have unwanted guests there. Stop moaning and get over it. And fair play to the host for trying and kicking off a new venue takes guts and a lot of effort. An no im not playing the lick arse game either I am simply saying leave the hosts alone. Ffs
You really should read both threads before you make assumptions and rant. excuse me I did read both threads actually and everyone just having a pure go at the host!! No rant on part here its the above comments "Then maybe you should read it correctly. Constructive criticism/ voicing concerns is not having " a pure go" at the host. Also it is not a new swingers venue. It is not owned by the host. What it is at the end of the day is a public bar with a venue attached that only be hired out for vanilla parties ie 40th 2st etc. Yes meet & greets can be hosted there. There is no playrooms etc there ite not a swingers club. While you may not care if the pubs name been outted a large number on here does care. In order for any event to take place and succeed the welfare,comfort, trust and discretion is and should be any hosts main priority. The tickets were for men only cpls & woman were free. Myself and others I'm sure would welcome new venues even of the social side to thrive but a great deal of time and careful planning is required to do so. I do wish the host well in his future adventures and takes on board all the constructive criticism and concern he received on both threads. Now I think it's time to put this thread to bed lol | |||
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"Everyone jumping the gun here the host did say they have security and its tickets etc. In all honestly who actually gives a toss if the place was named. The last time a swingers place was in the media people actually laughed not at us but at the papers. No body was in it no photos where in it. And as for the host I highly doubt is gonna have unwanted guests there. Stop moaning and get over it. And fair play to the host for trying and kicking off a new venue takes guts and a lot of effort. An no im not playing the lick arse game either I am simply saying leave the hosts alone. Ffs
You really should read both threads before you make assumptions and rant. excuse me I did read both threads actually and everyone just having a pure go at the host!! No rant on part here its the above comments
Then maybe you should read it correctly. Constructive criticism/ voicing concerns is not having " a pure go" at the host. Also it is not a new swingers venue. It is not owned by the host. What it is at the end of the day is a public bar with a venue attached that only be hired out for vanilla parties ie 40th 2st etc. Yes meet & greets can be hosted there. There is no playrooms etc there ite not a swingers club. While you may not care if the pubs name been outted a large number on here does care. In order for any event to take place and succeed the welfare,comfort, trust and discretion is and should be any hosts main priority. The tickets were for men only cpls & woman were free.
Myself and others I'm sure would welcome new venues even of the social side to thrive but a great deal of time and careful planning is required to do so.
I do wish the host well in his future adventures and takes on board all the constructive criticism and concern he received on both threads.
Now I think it's time to put this thread to bed lol "no swinger venues are owned most are hired/rebted buildings that are converted into play areas and social areas. You yourself arranges social events thats your thing fair play but you also meet an public places for these social events be it a tea to a full party. If this host wants to be public so be it thats his choice if its not for you and your concered dont go an dont engage in it simple really. People are quick enough to go a club in Limerick that is fully known an out there and thats not issue how does that work? Its the hosts event he can run what ever way he wants. He doesn't need a lecturer on how he should run it. Now thead is ended | |||
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"Everyone jumping the gun here the host did say they have security and its tickets etc. In all honestly who actually gives a toss if the place was named. The last time a swingers place was in the media people actually laughed not at us but at the papers. No body was in it no photos where in it. And as for the host I highly doubt is gonna have unwanted guests there. Stop moaning and get over it. And fair play to the host for trying and kicking off a new venue takes guts and a lot of effort. An no im not playing the lick arse game either I am simply saying leave the hosts alone. Ffs
You really should read both threads before you make assumptions and rant. excuse me I did read both threads actually and everyone just having a pure go at the host!! No rant on part here its the above comments
Then maybe you should read it correctly. Constructive criticism/ voicing concerns is not having " a pure go" at the host. Also it is not a new swingers venue. It is not owned by the host. What it is at the end of the day is a public bar with a venue attached that only be hired out for vanilla parties ie 40th 2st etc. Yes meet & greets can be hosted there. There is no playrooms etc there ite not a swingers club. While you may not care if the pubs name been outted a large number on here does care. In order for any event to take place and succeed the welfare,comfort, trust and discretion is and should be any hosts main priority. The tickets were for men only cpls & woman were free.
Myself and others I'm sure would welcome new venues even of the social side to thrive but a great deal of time and careful planning is required to do so.
I do wish the host well in his future adventures and takes on board all the constructive criticism and concern he received on both threads.
Now I think it's time to put this thread to bed lol no swinger venues are owned most are hired/rebted buildings that are converted into play areas and social areas. You yourself arranges social events thats your thing fair play but you also meet an public places for these social events be it a tea to a full party. If this host wants to be public so be it thats his choice if its not for you and your concered dont go an dont engage in it simple really. People are quick enough to go a club in Limerick that is fully known an out there and thats not issue how does that work? Its the hosts event he can run what ever way he wants. He doesn't need a lecturer on how he should run it. Now thead is ended "had too editted a bit Most swinger venues are not owned most are hired/rented buildings that are converted into play areas and social areas so whats the difference none. You yourself arranges social events thats your thing fair play but you also meet in public places for these social events be it a tea to a full party. If this host wants to be public so be it thats his choice if its not for you and your concered dont go an dont engage in it simple really. People are quick enough to go to a club in Limerick that is fully known an out there and thats not an issue how does that work? Its the hosts event he can run it what ever way he wants. He doesn't need a lecturer on how he should run it. Now thread is ended | |||
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"Just thought I'd post this here also for anyone who is interested in how it went . We were at last nights social event held by Swinky. The night did not go to plan with the amount of people who turned up was a bit of a let down which I'm sure Mr Swinky will be first to admit. There where some issues that we had a chance to ask Mr Swinky about and one of them was charging single guys for entry and he agreed that it should be done on a deposit basis in the future . That said maybe he should have charged the couples as most of them didn't bother turning up and most if not all the single guys turned up which was refreshing . As for the venue we see in the forums alot people looking for the best bars in dublin for meeting swingers, well this could potentially be a brilliant venue for Dublin first alternative life style bar. The place is very big and could easily hold 250-300+ . We've all been to socials were the venue is too small and there is no room to move and the music is so loud you cant even chat to people properly and it can be hard to distinguish who is part of the social and who isn't. This venue is a proper full bar with it's own entrance with it's own security on the door to ensure privacy and discretion for all. Although the night was not a roaring success anyone organizing any social or party events should be encouraged and not shot down or to be taken cheap shots at . We are a small community and we are all here for the same reasons so lighten up and just have some fun people. We are looking forward to the next event you organise OP . R&Pxx" Well said | |||
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"Just to throw some balance on this... as a couple we purchased tickets to attend a social (would of been our first) a couple of months back. We were unable to attend as we managed to book some time away overseas at short notice. We let the organiser know (sorry again Scott) and he was totally understanding. Yes we paid for tickets and were happy knowing that would go to charity. Im sure things come up that change people's plans, NOT just for single guy's. After visiting a lifestyle venue recently for our first event, we asked ourselves why we would even need to attend a social. We socialised with people we've never spoken to previously and had a fantastic night with the added benefit of moving to play areas away from the socialising area if we so wished. Reading all through the thread, we feel that the OP has come across all too DOM in responses. Maybe this has been a result of the fruatration and stress in arranging the event. For something that maybe started out as fun, it certainly is not portraying a fun night out. We didn't become involved in the lifestyle to knowingly help showcase/promote any venue which the press may or may not attend/report on. In any case, we wish anyone who attends a fun night. Foxminx " Well said! If I bought a ticket to an All Ireland final and couldn't go for whatever reason. Would the GAA be calling me a timewaster? Personally I think the discretion towards men having to pay and the rest free was odd. Charge everyone regardless of gender. Lifes all too hard for the genuine single men here. | |||
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