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By *evil_u_know OP   Man
over a year ago

city

I know most of you will want exclusion zones. They are very popular these days amongst liberal socialists. Exclude people from social media for being conservative, exclude them from their jobs for being christian etc. Wildly popular concepts in Ireland.

However do you think the government is being genuine, or just trying to move striking nurses away by making zones around hospitals protest free?

Also Simon Harris described the people protesting as inhumane. Do you think the protest was more inhumane than his departments treatment of people diagnosed with cancer or less?

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By *ryst In IsoldeWoman
over a year ago

your imagination

I dunno... While I have sympathy and support for underpaid medical staff, I also have compassion for those who are going through tough times.. People who may be there to say goodbye to a dying parent, sibling, child, friend... Who may be sick with worry while their loved one undergoes surgery or treatment... People who themselves are undergoing treatment and are carrying so many burdens already...

People choose to enter into particular professions, often starting their studies and training with the full knowledge that they are underpaid professions.. People don't choose to have trauma or illness thrust on them and to have to battle their way through a picket line in order to get help or to provide support for their family member. I don't think an exclusion zone is that unreasonable... It allows for everyone.

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By *oseredWoman
over a year ago

Dublin


"I dunno... While I have sympathy and support for underpaid medical staff, I also have compassion for those who are going through tough times.. People who may be there to say goodbye to a dying parent, sibling, child, friend... Who may be sick with worry while their loved one undergoes surgery or treatment... People who themselves are undergoing treatment and are carrying so many burdens already...

People choose to enter into particular professions, often starting their studies and training with the full knowledge that they are underpaid professions.. People don't choose to have trauma or illness thrust on them and to have to battle their way through a picket line in order to get help or to provide support for their family member. I don't think an exclusion zone is that unreasonable... It allows for everyone. "

No medical profesdional would ever make anyone battle through a protest. They are simply making their argument visible. Also unlike most strikes. There is is an agreed number of staff assigned to hosital working care that they are legally obliged to keep working so people are not put in danger. And I've never heard of a good health care provider ever pleased about having to strike.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can see the reasoning behind moving protests away from hospital entrances.

Inhumane seems like a terrible and divisive choice of words...

I havent actually seem the story so must go check it out

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By *oserMan
over a year ago

where the wild roses grow


"I dunno... While I have sympathy and support for underpaid medical staff, I also have compassion for those who are going through tough times.. People who may be there to say goodbye to a dying parent, sibling, child, friend... Who may be sick with worry while their loved one undergoes surgery or treatment... People who themselves are undergoing treatment and are carrying so many burdens already...

People choose to enter into particular professions, often starting their studies and training with the full knowledge that they are underpaid professions.. People don't choose to have trauma or illness thrust on them and to have to battle their way through a picket line in order to get help or to provide support for their family member. I don't think an exclusion zone is that unreasonable... It allows for everyone. "

Battle through picket lines?

Thats horseshit PD.

These carers, nurses etc are the best of us. They are the people who we reach out to for support, for help, for their care. They become invisible until we need them, they see us at our worst and do their best for us!

they deserve a days pay for a days work not pittance and being taken for granted.

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

In general, I believe a lot of civil liberties are quickily eroding from society such as having an opinion in case you offend anyone & being of certain religious denominations. Also, God help you (sorry if I offended ) if you've a different opinion to the sewage of a narrative that's pumped out through what passes for the media these days...

Now, I can see one pragmatic reason behind having a "safe protest" zone outside a hospital in that a lot of sick & truamatised people have to use a hospital out of necessity and would rather not deal with walking or being wheeled through a protest but excluding people from protesting near a workplace is completely unacceptable...

Certain professions that contribute to the welfare of society need to be seen, heard & listened to whether on social media or visibly at a workplace

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By *undubguy100Man
over a year ago

Dublin

I spoke with a colleague in the hospital I'm in... nurse...working in neuro surgical unit...highly specialised....amazingly skilful....qualified 5 years...has a degree....other courses, constantly working in conditions where not enough staff....hourly wage??? What you think it should be....€25? €30? ...€17.20 an hour basic pay. I know people working in unskilled jobs earning not a million miles from that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dunno... While I have sympathy and support for underpaid medical staff, I also have compassion for those who are going through tough times.. People who may be there to say goodbye to a dying parent, sibling, child, friend... Who may be sick with worry while their loved one undergoes surgery or treatment... People who themselves are undergoing treatment and are carrying so many burdens already...

People choose to enter into particular professions, often starting their studies and training with the full knowledge that they are underpaid professions.. People don't choose to have trauma or illness thrust on them and to have to battle their way through a picket line in order to get help or to provide support for their family member. I don't think an exclusion zone is that unreasonable... It allows for everyone.

Battle through picket lines?

Thats horseshit PD.

These carers, nurses etc are the best of us. They are the people who we reach out to for support, for help, for their care. They become invisible until we need them, they see us at our worst and do their best for us!

they deserve a days pay for a days work not pittance and being taken for granted.

"

I remember a strike was on when my grandmother was dying a good few years ago, only a few were on the pocket line, they do up a roster so sufficient staff are still working and all stood to one side as we drove in. If you ask the majority of patients and people who use these services can guarantee you they are behind the staff.

Once again the government trying to cause a divide. You go sit in an a&e and see the crap our hospital staff are dealing with on a Saturday it ain't casualties or sick people, the staff should be paid proper wages. But than again Simon isn't worrying about any of our nurses been attacked for doing their job while he sitting in his cosy home.

We need to stand behind each other and support each other,

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By *oserMan
over a year ago

where the wild roses grow


"I dunno... While I have sympathy and support for underpaid medical staff, I also have compassion for those who are going through tough times.. People who may be there to say goodbye to a dying parent, sibling, child, friend... Who may be sick with worry while their loved one undergoes surgery or treatment... People who themselves are undergoing treatment and are carrying so many burdens already...

People choose to enter into particular professions, often starting their studies and training with the full knowledge that they are underpaid professions.. People don't choose to have trauma or illness thrust on them and to have to battle their way through a picket line in order to get help or to provide support for their family member. I don't think an exclusion zone is that unreasonable... It allows for everyone.

Battle through picket lines?

Thats horseshit PD.

These carers, nurses etc are the best of us. They are the people who we reach out to for support, for help, for their care. They become invisible until we need them, they see us at our worst and do their best for us!

they deserve a days pay for a days work not pittance and being taken for granted.

I remember a strike was on when my grandmother was dying a good few years ago, only a few were on the pocket line, they do up a roster so sufficient staff are still working and all stood to one side as we drove in. If you ask the majority of patients and people who use these services can guarantee you they are behind the staff.

Once again the government trying to cause a divide. You go sit in an a&e and see the crap our hospital staff are dealing with on a Saturday it ain't casualties or sick people, the staff should be paid proper wages. But than again Simon isn't worrying about any of our nurses been attacked for doing their job while he sitting in his cosy home.

We need to stand behind each other and support each other, "

100%

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By *oserMan
over a year ago

where the wild roses grow

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By *unnyfookMan
over a year ago

Naas

It's the type of protests that they are excluding, anyway wouldn't it be a better protest if it was a main Street getting more exposure with the public

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By *onnrodMan
over a year ago

moira

As someone who's had his fair share of service from the medical profession (in fact I've probably had several people's fair share of service) I would back any protest as long as it doesn't physically impede the working of the hospital. When my dad was in hospital recently I wouldn't have noticed a 3 ring circus on my way into Altnagelvin, but I did notice how every member of staff did their job with good humour and dedication. Nurses are the backbone of the NHS and the way they get treated in NHS 'reforms' is criminal in my opinion so if they need to protest to be heard then I'm all for it.

The alternative is a further reduction in the quality of service as more and more people turn away from the career.

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