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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

MsC is raging here and all the time when she smells the impure heavy CO2 in the air almost everywhere in the small towns or other wealthy areas in Dublin and Counties, due to burning firelogs and briquettes in plane summer or anything around 12 to 16 degrees or whatever. Then these feckers come on the media and government incentives telling about making Ireland a greener and cleaner energy country, if that makes any sense? (She is from a country that gets -15 on the winter and they don't use the stocked logs unless an emergency happens).

Me too I do hate seeing/smelling it, but what can I do? Wear masks like the Chinese? I know we all talk about jobs, but we don't ride horses anymore or use candles to light up most houses... Just saying...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where’s all this electricity going to come from to charge all these cars

The grid already struggled

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Where’s all this electricity going to come from to charge all these cars

The grid already struggled "

That wouldn't be hard if all these companies and government did more and talked less

There are many ways of making cleaner energy (less harmful then the old ones).

Thorium Nuclear power.

Waves.

Organic waste(already used).

Solar(all you need is photos, even on rainy cloudy days solar panel absorb photons).

I know wind turbines seems stupid because of its size... But...

There are ways... We just direct money on the wrong places, I guess why many graduates get pissed off and leave the country for a few years, as many say to me they were under appreciated and miss treated while getting their degrees... I am not even trying to understand that... But many startups comes from ambitious grads and experienced native engineer / entrepreneurs. Unless ye want to privatisation if the energy supply...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Where’s all this electricity going to come from to charge all these cars

The grid already struggled

That wouldn't be hard if all these companies and government did more and talked less

There are many ways of making cleaner energy (less harmful then the old ones).

Thorium Nuclear power.

Waves.

Organic waste(already used).

Solar(all you need is photos, even on rainy cloudy days solar panel absorb photons).

I know wind turbines seems stupid because of its size... But...

There are ways... We just direct money on the wrong places, I guess why many graduates get pissed off and leave the country for a few years, as many say to me they were under appreciated and miss treated while getting their degrees... I am not even trying to understand that... But many startups comes from ambitious grads and experienced native engineer / entrepreneurs. Unless ye want to privatisation if the energy supply...

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I work in the power industry and have a fair idea of what's needed to provide power for half a million electric vehicles by 2030, they did say its ambitious to be fair, if they achieve it by 2130 I'd be supprised

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Where’s all this electricity going to come from to charge all these cars

The grid already struggled

That wouldn't be hard if all these companies and government did more and talked less

There are many ways of making cleaner energy (less harmful then the old ones).

Thorium Nuclear power.

Waves.

Organic waste(already used).

Solar(all you need is photos, even on rainy cloudy days solar panel absorb photons).

I know wind turbines seems stupid because of its size... But...

There are ways... We just direct money on the wrong places, I guess why many graduates get pissed off and leave the country for a few years, as many say to me they were under appreciated and miss treated while getting their degrees... I am not even trying to understand that... But many startups comes from ambitious grads and experienced native engineer / entrepreneurs. Unless ye want to privatisation if the energy supply...

I work in the power industry and have a fair idea of what's needed to provide power for half a million electric vehicles by 2030, they did say its ambitious to be fair, if they achieve it by 2130 I'd be supprised "

True...

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

China has already said electric battery cars are a dead end, they will never be able to put a charging station in everyones home.

India wont be able to either.

LA has to do rolling blackouts to handle air conditioners.

UK struggles with world cups when everyone turns on the kettle at same time.

It does not matter how much money is thrown at it, without superconducting wires the grid cant handle electric cars. Hydrogen cars are a real possibility.

Also....

What country does she come from that is -15? is it a country that burns russian gas? The ones that freeze their balls off when russia reduces the gas?

Many graduates leave Ireland because they dont realise how good it is here until they travel, and thats why more people from Europe are coming into Dublin than leaving Dublin to leave in Europe, cause basically we are better than where they come from.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"China has already said electric battery cars are a dead end, they will never be able to put a charging station in everyones home.

India wont be able to either.

LA has to do rolling blackouts to handle air conditioners.

UK struggles with world cups when everyone turns on the kettle at same time.

It does not matter how much money is thrown at it, without superconducting wires the grid cant handle electric cars. Hydrogen cars are a real possibility.

Also....

What country does she come from that is -15? is it a country that burns russian gas? The ones that freeze their balls off when russia reduces the gas?

Many graduates leave Ireland because they dont realise how good it is here until they travel, and thats why more people from Europe are coming into Dublin than leaving Dublin to leave in Europe, cause basically we are better than where they come from."

True and very warming at welcoming she only came because of me. Her country is on the top 10 in Europe and world. Only my stubborn persona is stick to this beautiful rainbow land

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"China has already said electric battery cars are a dead end, they will never be able to put a charging station in everyones home.

India wont be able to either.

LA has to do rolling blackouts to handle air conditioners.

UK struggles with world cups when everyone turns on the kettle at same time.

It does not matter how much money is thrown at it, without superconducting wires the grid cant handle electric cars. Hydrogen cars are a real possibility.

Also....

What country does she come from that is -15? is it a country that burns russian gas? The ones that freeze their balls off when russia reduces the gas?

Many graduates leave Ireland because they dont realise how good it is here until they travel, and thats why more people from Europe are coming into Dublin than leaving Dublin to leave in Europe, cause basically we are better than where they come from."
a lot of truth there, we're centuries away from a green planet depressing as it may seem it will be to late, banning diesel vehicles by 2030 the same ones they encouraged us to by a few years ago, how many families do you see driving around in older diesel cars? Is it because they want to? No its because the can't afford a new diesel car let alone a decent family size electric car that dosnt even exist! Ambitious is an understatement..

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

It's just another great idea by our very learned politicians .ideas that never can work .if the greens hadn't got 8%of the vote fine Gael would never have come out with these daft unworkable proposals ...do you know in Saudi Arabia they are driving around in big fuel guzzling 4×4s and no unleaded fuel in sight .4 million call me I south America at any given time producing more gas than we are .we are just a small blip in the world .but as usual paddy had to pay .thousands of students on the streets demonstrating...maybe they should be supporting the homeless and get more houses built

As there's going to be none for them with these clowns running the show ...and don't be surprised if eu throws us under the bus once again on the backstop as they did with the bankers.

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

Thorium Nuclear power.??? Do you actually believe in fairies ?? That's been debunked years ago.

As for electric cars they are doomed due the use of rare earth elements that are not sustainable. Look at Japan they are starting to invest heavily in hydrogen technology

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thorium Nuclear power.??? Do you actually believe in fairies ?? That's been debunked years ago.

As for electric cars they are doomed due the use of rare earth elements that are not sustainable. Look at Japan they are starting to invest heavily in hydrogen technology "

Th last time I looked hydrogen was highly explosive, and as for japan's energy sector one word.. Fukushima.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You mean lithium? It was not long ago the government were trying to sell the mining rights to lithium on the blackstairs mountains to the Japanese.. Didn't go down to well with the locals

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Thorium Nuclear power.??? Do you actually believe in fairies ?? That's been debunked years ago.

As for electric cars they are doomed due the use of rare earth elements that are not sustainable. Look at Japan they are starting to invest heavily in hydrogen technology "

Now 90% recyclable, the same with solar panels... We are getting better. But all these predictions for Ireland renewable energy aren't calculated at all, they just copy cat the French and others... The French was saying by 2030 and no extent diesel from 2045 they will sell only EVs and then UK said from 2035 EVs only... So which the greens said: " the French or the UK, pick a side pal, no time for calculating"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thorium Nuclear power.??? Do you actually believe in fairies ?? That's been debunked years ago.

As for electric cars they are doomed due the use of rare earth elements that are not sustainable. Look at Japan they are starting to invest heavily in hydrogen technology

Now 90% recyclable, the same with solar panels... We are getting better. But all these predictions for Ireland renewable energy aren't calculated at all, they just copy cat the French and others... The French was saying by 2030 and no extent diesel from 2045 they will sell only EVs and then UK said from 2035 EVs only... So which the greens said: " the French or the UK, pick a side pal, no time for calculating" "

I think that's the point being made here, they haven't a fookin clue..

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"Thorium Nuclear power.??? Do you actually believe in fairies ?? That's been debunked years ago.

As for electric cars they are doomed due the use of rare earth elements that are not sustainable. Look at Japan they are starting to invest heavily in hydrogen technology

Th last time I looked hydrogen was highly explosive, and as for japan's energy sector one word.. Fukushima. "

You do know petrol is explosive too ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thorium Nuclear power.??? Do you actually believe in fairies ?? That's been debunked years ago.

As for electric cars they are doomed due the use of rare earth elements that are not sustainable. Look at Japan they are starting to invest heavily in hydrogen technology

Th last time I looked hydrogen was highly explosive, and as for japan's energy sector one word.. Fukushima.

You do know petrol is explosive too ? "

Oh it is ofcourse and equally as environmentally friendly to produce as hydrogen, and every bit as hazardous to store...you see you can produce hydrogen through electrolysis separating hydrogen from water by using electricity, ie using fossil fuels,and if we find a greener way of producing electricity in the next hundred years then it might work, but it will still remain hazardous..i know only too well the dangers of hydrogen as I work with it on a daily basis..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Thorium Nuclear power.??? Do you actually believe in fairies ?? That's been debunked years ago.

As for electric cars they are doomed due the use of rare earth elements that are not sustainable. Look at Japan they are starting to invest heavily in hydrogen technology

The last time I looked hydrogen was highly explosive, and as for japan's energy sector one word.. Fukushima.

You do know petrol is explosive too ?

Oh it is ofcourse and equally as environmentally friendly to produce as hydrogen, and every bit as hazardous to store...you see you can produce hydrogen through electrolysis separating hydrogen from water by using electricity, ie using fossil fuels,and if we find a greener way of producing electricity in the next hundred years then it might work, but it will still remain hazardous..i know only too well the dangers of hydrogen as I work with it on a daily basis.. "

We also work with hydrogen in the gas form, it is so dangerous that we need sensors to detect if there is anything molecules in the air, because any little sparkle or heat can ignite it and make a chain reaction worse than natural gas, hydrogen is very sensitive to ignition... It can sure mix with oxygen, but better not having spread in the air for more than 1/5 of a cubic metres and ignite it... I still didn't really research about how hydrogen cells really work but there are some cool technologies in terms of super capacitors coming up, such as polymer solid-state battery and solid state batteries in general... But they need a bit of heat to be efficient I am pretty sure that in the next 10 years we will have a new concept to apply in the long run...

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

Ireland is a banana republic .but then again you get what you vote for ....Ryan's greens Sat beside Brian Cowan bailing out the banks with his usual smirk on his face and then telling us all to buy diesel cars and save the world ...green wave my area. Roll on the general election

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thorium Nuclear power.??? Do you actually believe in fairies ?? That's been debunked years ago.

As for electric cars they are doomed due the use of rare earth elements that are not sustainable. Look at Japan they are starting to invest heavily in hydrogen technology

The last time I looked hydrogen was highly explosive, and as for japan's energy sector one word.. Fukushima.

You do know petrol is explosive too ?

Oh it is ofcourse and equally as environmentally friendly to produce as hydrogen, and every bit as hazardous to store...you see you can produce hydrogen through electrolysis separating hydrogen from water by using electricity, ie using fossil fuels,and if we find a greener way of producing electricity in the next hundred years then it might work, but it will still remain hazardous..i know only too well the dangers of hydrogen as I work with it on a daily basis..

We also work with hydrogen in the gas form, it is so dangerous that we need sensors to detect if there is anything molecules in the air, because any little sparkle or heat can ignite it and make a chain reaction worse than natural gas, hydrogen is very sensitive to ignition... It can sure mix with oxygen, but better not having spread in the air for more than 1/5 of a cubic metres and ignite it... I still didn't really research about how hydrogen cells really work but there are some cool technologies in terms of super capacitors coming up, such as polymer solid-state battery and solid state batteries in general... But they need a bit of heat to be efficient I am pretty sure that in the next 10 years we will have a new concept to apply in the long run..."

There's loads of potential for new technologies, but my point is until they actually exist the government should be realistic about ambitious future projections and stop using it as a reason to bleed the struggling tax payer...

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By *ryst In IsoldeWoman
over a year ago

your imagination

Irish Times article yesterday about new strides being made here in Ireland:

https://www.irishtimes.com/latest-news?_gl=1*14a1579*_ga*YW1wLS1IUFRlRkRWc0ZEY2hWbmFwLWJUdElxZVNGMVNQRkJTYWNURzNNZnlvaTZUNnQ3a1d6NkU4dXVjVTd2eEhBRWw.

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

What strides .the earth was 12 degrees warmer 2000 yrs ago.one volcano to eropt can cause more pollution than Europe can in 12 months .all fake news .

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By *ertwoCouple
over a year ago

omagh

re think is needed and a quick answer to getting rid of cancer causing diesel cars for the short term would need the EU to remove its 36ppl tariff from petrol. But no chance of that they are happy with our children getting cancer from Diesel soot in the air we breath as long as they get their money.

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By *ertwoCouple
over a year ago

omagh


"Thorium Nuclear power.??? Do you actually believe in fairies ?? That's been debunked years ago.

As for electric cars they are doomed due the use of rare earth elements that are not sustainable. Look at Japan they are starting to invest heavily in hydrogen technology

The last time I looked hydrogen was highly explosive, and as for japan's energy sector one word.. Fukushima.

You do know petrol is explosive too ?

Oh it is ofcourse and equally as environmentally friendly to produce as hydrogen, and every bit as hazardous to store...you see you can produce hydrogen through electrolysis separating hydrogen from water by using electricity, ie using fossil fuels,and if we find a greener way of producing electricity in the next hundred years then it might work, but it will still remain hazardous..i know only too well the dangers of hydrogen as I work with it on a daily basis..

We also work with hydrogen in the gas form, it is so dangerous that we need sensors to detect if there is anything molecules in the air, because any little sparkle or heat can ignite it and make a chain reaction worse than natural gas, hydrogen is very sensitive to ignition... It can sure mix with oxygen, but better not having spread in the air for more than 1/5 of a cubic metres and ignite it... I still didn't really research about how hydrogen cells really work but there are some cool technologies in terms of super capacitors coming up, such as polymer solid-state battery and solid state batteries in general... But they need a bit of heat to be efficient I am pretty sure that in the next 10 years we will have a new concept to apply in the long run...

There's loads of potential for new technologies, but my point is until they actually exist the government should be realistic about ambitious future projections and stop using it as a reason to bleed the struggling tax payer...

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You mis the point the national grid still has to supply the power to charge batterys even the Capacitor types and if we all had electric cars the grid would have black outs. As for petrol being expensive the EU hold the answer to that as they take 36PPL of a tariff on petrol and we then pay the lions share of VAT ontop, all to the EU. Petrol has less harmfull emisions than diesel but the EU prefer to take our money and let our peoples die from Cancer caused by diesel engines in our cities and towns.

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By *eralt80Man
over a year ago

cork

Everybody in the country isn’t going to have an electric car in the next few months so having a grid that can’t handle to extra isn’t so much an issue. It all about starting and building for the future.

We can’t wait until oil and gas runs out and then say right we need new options. The sooner these alternative energies are developed to sooner we we’ll have viable solutions.

Plus how much money do the people of Ireland pay to Arab and Russian and who ever else oil companies to import or fuels when we can supply our own, keeping the money in this country for further investment into renewables.

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

Look guys it's all about money .curious to know does anyone from here know actually how much money the exchequer gets from the ordinary motorists .through taxez on petrol and diesel every year ...and how will they replace that money .personally I think it is our in the sky .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Everybody in the country isn’t going to have an electric car in the next few months so having a grid that can’t handle to extra isn’t so much an issue. It all about starting and building for the future.

We can’t wait until oil and gas runs out and then say right we need new options. The sooner these alternative energies are developed to sooner we we’ll have viable solutions.

Plus how much money do the people of Ireland pay to Arab and Russian and who ever else oil companies to import or fuels when we can supply our own, keeping the money in this country for further investment into renewables. "

I was about to add it on my lines yesterday. Our investment in fuel supply would be more centralised to Ireland and we would export much less our funds out to buy the extra need refined byproduct. Yes they grid will need a new dedicated supply for only EVs and electrical storage units/plants, so it will happen, sooner or later, as most cars will be driven by electrical motors, which have much fewer moving parts to power the sardines boxes around to get us from a to be.

The problem is, how will the energy grid be updated to supply the next generation whole will still be in Ireland in 2040/35? As they say that there will be a considerable population increase... I think that they should sort out the ones in need first and educate/upgrade their CVs to make Ireland with less crimes and violence and system cheaters. So that they can earn better wages, have better life quality and help the country to have much less sustained poverty, because fair a small country we have waaayy too many "poor" or homeless individuals... But let's not change the topic, this is about energy usage... Sorry if I opened the tin of warms...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Look guys it's all about money .curious to know does anyone from here know actually how much money the exchequer gets from the ordinary motorists .through taxez on petrol and diesel every year ...and how will they replace that money .personally I think it is our in the sky ."

And some sold/corporate media giving stupid news supporting the Boeing 737 Max after the CEO was brave enough to say sorry for the crafts that fell due to software error and modified jet-turbine increase of size only to compete with Airbus... First of all these air crafts should be banned and destroyed/recycled... I may open another forum about the 737 Max...

But yeahs greed gives no fck about lives... They risk without much testing and validation at times...

I hope for the best for the less dirty energies...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any progress in teleportation?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Any progress in teleportation? "

See remote viewing... That is the closest you can get... Our physical molecular density is too dense for that to happen... I heard rumours about that ship which people were fused on its wall after an experiment

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By *rossflow daveMan
over a year ago

Mullingar

The reality is that this or any other government in this country truly couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery ,

Recycled wood is being processed in the midlands and then trucked up to the north to fuel power stations while we're still burning peat !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The reality is that this or any other government in this country truly couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery ,

Recycled wood is being processed in the midlands and then trucked up to the north to fuel power stations while we're still burning peat ! "

Yes we are as backward as that, and it's not that I want to be negative and be pessimistic about progression, but the reality is there's alot of spoofing going on..

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