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"It's fucked for the foreseeable future alright. Starting to distribute funds on an equitable basis won't solve the mess either although it might slow down the growth of the gulf in class. " Maybe if they had distributed the funding a little more evenly to begin with this gulf would not have happened. | |||
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"well i think the gaa put the funds all around . you only have to go to some small town and they have a big stadium .." Haha mostly likely funded by club fundraising and lotto money | |||
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"well i think the gaa put the funds all around . you only have to go to some small town and they have a big stadium .." It wasn't the GAA that give the money to build them. | |||
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"The issue that would arise from splitting Dublin up is that would anyone identify with finglas or south Dublin etc.?" It would be problematic for sure. I'd reboot the railway cup so their would still be a Dublin team. | |||
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"The issue that would arise from splitting Dublin up is that would anyone identify with finglas or south Dublin etc.?" Most probally do already they live and vote in those area's | |||
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"The issue that would arise from splitting Dublin up is that would anyone identify with finglas or south Dublin etc.? It would be problematic for sure. I'd reboot the railway cup so their would still be a Dublin team. " I don't Dublin should be split.The Gaa made this mess they should sort it out. | |||
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"The issue that would arise from splitting Dublin up is that would anyone identify with finglas or south Dublin etc.? It would be problematic for sure. I'd reboot the railway cup so their would still be a Dublin team. I don't think Dublin should be split.The Gaa made this mess they should sort it out." | |||
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"Nobody was shouting about splitting Dublin into 3 teams .pre 2011 .when laois westmeath .lips are Meath. We're all beating them in Leinster. And kerry armagh Tyrone if they happen to win Leinster. No one was asking for Kerry in football Kilkenny in hurling to be split up . Do you not think it's about time all the wingers get their act together and first support your county's financially by going and paying .and maybe then they can put some structures in place to bring your young players along ....where do you think the likes of Tyrone and monaghan get their money to build their centre of excellence grounds .from the centra6 council .and where do they get the bulk of their money .from the thousands and thousands of Dublin supporters who travel up and down the country .outnumbering the home support 10 to 1 ....get out and do something for your county and don't be so jealous of others who do Up the drive for five " Ur right nobody was but then the money wasn't being plied into the structuors within dublin, since then a noticable imblance has devoloped on the amount invested per capitia which dublin is now reaping rewards | |||
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"Nobody was shouting about splitting Dublin into 3 teams .pre 2011 .when laois westmeath .lips are Meath. We're all beating them in Leinster. And kerry armagh Tyrone if they happen to win Leinster. No one was asking for Kerry in football Kilkenny in hurling to be split up . Do you not think it's about time all the wingers get their act together and first support your county's financially by going and paying .and maybe then they can put some structures in place to bring your young players along ....where do you think the likes of Tyrone and monaghan get their money to build their centre of excellence grounds .from the centra6 council .and where do they get the bulk of their money .from the thousands and thousands of Dublin supporters who travel up and down the country .outnumbering the home support 10 to 1 ....get out and do something for your county and don't be so jealous of others who do Up the drive for five " But don't you think Dublin get much more funding than all the other teams put together.They also play all these games at home so no travelling also probably all work in Dublin no travelling for training.They have more trainers and backroom staff than a premier league team. So in my opinion they are professional players.As for getting out and supporting your county we all do it and we don't get to play all our matches in our back garden. | |||
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"Nobody was shouting about splitting Dublin into 3 teams .pre 2011 .when laois westmeath .lips are Meath. We're all beating them in Leinster. And kerry armagh Tyrone if they happen to win Leinster. No one was asking for Kerry in football Kilkenny in hurling to be split up . Do you not think it's about time all the wingers get their act together and first support your county's financially by going and paying .and maybe then they can put some structures in place to bring your young players along ....where do you think the likes of Tyrone and monaghan get their money to build their centre of excellence grounds .from the centra6 council .and where do they get the bulk of their money .from the thousands and thousands of Dublin supporters who travel up and down the country .outnumbering the home support 10 to 1 ....get out and do something for your county and don't be so jealous of others who do Up the drive for five " Do you not think if the likes of Kerry got the same funds as Dublin they would be right up there challenging them for sam. | |||
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"Its not Dublins fault they are that good a team. How many chances did Mayo have to win the All Ireland again? How many times did they loose their balls and screw it up? " No it's not Dublins fault they get all the funding to become professional players it's the GAA. | |||
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"Its not Dublins fault they are that good a team. How many chances did Mayo have to win the All Ireland again? How many times did they loose their balls and screw it up? " Nobody said it was Dublin's fault and they are not a good team, they are clearly the greatest team in the history of the Gaa and still getting better and younger every year. The problem is that it is not healthy for a sport that one team has so many natural and unnatural advantages. By the way that Mayo team never lacked bottle and are also arguably the best team ever not to win an all ireland. | |||
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"It's fucked for the foreseeable future alright. Starting to distribute funds on an equitable basis won't solve the mess either although it might slow down the growth of the gulf in class. Maybe if they had distributed the funding a little more evenly to begin with this gulf would not have happened. " Dublin needs to be divided, only way to level the playing field | |||
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"And it's this attitude that is causing the mess. Even outside of short term 2-5 year fix but problem goes alot further. My friend is married to the 1 (one) full time gaa hurling coach for primary schools, in ulster One coach for 9 counties! He gets to each primary. School for 2 hours every 12 months. And what Benefit is that? There were 23/24 in dubln alone he told me Splitting Dublin won't make a difference as there are only 5 or 6 teams (na fianna, ballymun, crokes, cuala off Top of my Head) and most would either move. Clubs or clubs amalgate to get round it. " There are 32 clubs in the Dublin senior football championship alone and the standard is very high throughout even if plenty of clubs would be short of household names. I did make an attempt at mapping out what clubs go in which of the 4 Dublin counties and it is not straightforward but there would be a decent enough balance with the super clubs generally being well split up from each other. | |||
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"Hurling snob Kildare minors are going fairly well though, beat offaly at the weekend. As ever though they will be treated as third class citizens when they get to senior leveland fall away. An example would be winning the Christy Ring a couple of years back and were forced to play antrim 6 days later to gain promotion. Played something like 6 games in 7 weeks. " Not snobby at all, on the contrary, this is what I love to here, pity GAA don't organise it better for these counties, is it that football counties or GAA have less consideration for hurling so there schedules are awful. Would love it if all 32 counties plus Newyork etc... Were all as competitive as each other and not just munster, kk and galway | |||
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"See you are from kildare .maybe you should be looking at the geography of your own county .and try and get that sorted .you'd can't even ..get a descent stadium in Newbridge ..I suppose that's Jim Gavins fault " Maybe if the GAA didn't spend so much on the Dubs there might be more money to go round on other counties like kildare. | |||
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"Its not Dublins fault they are that good a team. How many chances did Mayo have to win the All Ireland again? How many times did they loose their balls and screw it up? Nobody said it was Dublin's fault and they are not a good team, they are clearly the greatest team in the history of the Gaa and still getting better and younger every year. The problem is that it is not healthy for a sport that one team has so many natural and unnatural advantages. By the way that Mayo team never lacked bottle and are also arguably the best team ever not to win an all ireland. " Maybe the other counties need to up their game then. | |||
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"Less tiers, more respect and more aid to weaker counties would be a start. Another disgrace this year occurred in the Lory Meagher Cup where Leitrim played away to Lancashire, there was no neutral linesmen or umpires for the game. That is what the gaa thinks of the lower tiers. " But sure Leitrim and other small counties don't matter because they can't bring in enough money for the fat cats in the GAA. | |||
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"Less tiers, more respect and more aid to weaker counties would be a start. Another disgrace this year occurred in the Lory Meagher Cup where Leitrim played away to Lancashire, there was no neutral linesmen or umpires for the game. That is what the gaa thinks of the lower tiers. " I see your point and totally agree with you but.. As an "amateur" sport I'm sure referees barely get travel expenses (I'm open to correction) so it might be hard to get a referee and linesmen to travel? Pro 14 Rugby only got neutral officials in last few years. Was always host country who provided touch judges. Also as well | |||
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"Its the culshies fault they should be stopped moving to Dublin. Its their children who making the Gaa team stronger.... " now now you leave the culshies alone | |||
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"Nobody was shouting about splitting Dublin into 3 teams .pre 2011 .when laois westmeath .lips are Meath. We're all beating them in Leinster. And kerry armagh Tyrone if they happen to win Leinster. No one was asking for Kerry in football Kilkenny in hurling to be split up . Do you not think it's about time all the wingers get their act together and first support your county's financially by going and paying .and maybe then they can put some structures in place to bring your young players along ....where do you think the likes of Tyrone and monaghan get their money to build their centre of excellence grounds .from the centra6 council .and where do they get the bulk of their money .from the thousands and thousands of Dublin supporters who travel up and down the country .outnumbering the home support 10 to 1 ....get out and do something for your county and don't be so jealous of others who do Up the drive for five " ..hello my friend...just on your point regards where Tyrone etc get their funds from ..what you may not know is that because Tyrone are one of the six counties in Northern Ireland they also get a sizable purse from sports funding and grants from the English Government....and yes l do agree with you about the Dubs fan support... in my opinion it is on par with with any English professional club..if not even more so... | |||
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"Egg chasing lol, if that's how ya see it, an old saying, football is a game for lads who can't hurl. A lot more skill and courage needed to play than the big ball game. " ...played both my friend as well as handball...and all three have one thing in common...hand to eye coordination...you either have it or you don't...the greatest ever GAA photo taken ( in my humble opinion )was in the KERRY V DUBLIN all lreland final 1979...you should look it up...Brian Mullins of Dublin is reaching for the ball at full stretch...Seanie Walsh's hips are on Brian Mullins Shoulders....I know you say football is for guys that can't hurl ..but as l said l played both ..to a high standard for years and l've seen and played against hurlers that couldn't kick snow off a rope...great hurlers no doubt ..but totally shit footballers... | |||
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"Yes great entertainment .Kerry have now won 9 of the last 10 Munster finals...without whinging about what others get or don't get ..." 9 of the last 10? They should be broken up into 4 Kerrys! | |||
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"If it was money then why dont Dublin clear up in hurling every year too? Its a bit disrespectful to the Dublin football lads who put in the work of pro athletes and say its just cause of money. It's obviously more to do with them having a huge pool of football players to pick from. The only thing they could really do would be to enter DLRCOCO, Fingal, South Dublin and Dublin City as seperate teams, as technically there is no County Dublin anymore anyway. My understanding is, they want to avoid this as it would create the wrong type of rivalry inside Dublin. it could turn into a Tallaght vs Inner City Dublin vs Ballymum/Finglas affair." Because Dublin football has the best hurling team in Leinster | |||
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"Yes great entertainment .Kerry have now won 9 of the last 10 Munster finals...without whinging about what others get or don't get ..." ....Munster football has been dominated by Both Kerry & Cork ..that was Kerry's 81st Munster title....only Clare have won one ,1992, in the last , what ?... Nearly 75 yrs...Tipp & Limerick did come close a couple of times but ..close but no cigar... | |||
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"It's very disrespectful to those lads that ..like every other intercounty in the country ...these guys do a lot of great things with kids and sick people and fundraising . For numerous charities ......and only .thefatcats in croke park that never kicked a ball in their lives have big salaries and big cars .while players all over the country struggle ..so give them all a break and enjoy the games .and you can say in years to come that you witnessed the greatest football team of all time .so com on the dubs.." ...Kerry '78-'86....7 titles in 9 yrs...and only for two last minute goals in the dying seconds of two games in ' 82 all Ireland & '83 Munster Final ...may well have had 9 in a row...and l know it's all part of the game but how lucky were Dublin in two finals against Mayo .. extremely so....so atm..in my humble opinion.. Kerry still hold the title of the greatest football team of all time ... | |||
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"It's very disrespectful to those lads that ..like every other intercounty in the country ...these guys do a lot of great things with kids and sick people and fundraising . For numerous charities ......and only .thefatcats in croke park that never kicked a ball in their lives have big salaries and big cars .while players all over the country struggle ..so give them all a break and enjoy the games .and you can say in years to come that you witnessed the greatest football team of all time .so com on the dubs.. ...Kerry '78-'86....7 titles in 9 yrs...and only for two last minute goals in the dying seconds of two games in ' 82 all Ireland & '83 Munster Final ...may well have had 9 in a row...and l know it's all part of the game but how lucky were Dublin in two finals against Mayo .. extremely so....so atm..in my humble opinion.. Kerry still hold the title of the greatest football team of all time ... " And they hadn't someone to wipe their ass every time they did an number two like the Dubs have. | |||
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"Kerry won most of their all Ireland's playing a very few games .example. beat Waterford in semi final cork in Munster final .Sligo in all Ireland semi and bingo ....they were in the final Now if that wasn't wiping their arse I don't know what was. Now my dear at 4pm today sir back and watch poetry in motion ...the greatest football team of all time. Even pat spillane Colm o'rourke. Joe brolly.. and that dick head from.monaghan.agree on . Jealousy is a terrible infliction " Don't forget who they beat in a lot of those finals. | |||
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"No I won't ever forget .and will I whinge about it ...no....look get over it the dubs are here to stay .don't be a bitter person .enjoy the games today .. " Sure their here to stay.Sure they are the only professional team in the country. | |||
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"The difference between Dublin and the rest ...excuse Kerry.. Dublin get money and they had a vision and they have Jim Gavin the rest have no vision .no brains .....plus they are getting plenty of money from their supporters to give them a few bob as well.as the rest have no supporters .look at us on the hill today....lol" ..said it in previous post here .. Dublin have a fan base similar or if not better to a professional soccer team in England... | |||
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"The difference between Dublin and the rest ...excuse Kerry.. Dublin get money and they had a vision and they have Jim Gavin the rest have no vision .no brains .....plus they are getting plenty of money from their supporters to give them a few bob as well.as the rest have no supporters .look at us on the hill today....lol" ..said it in previous post here .. Dublin have a fan base similar or if not better to a professional soccer team in England... | |||
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"The difference between Dublin and the rest ...excuse Kerry.. Dublin get money and they had a vision and they have Jim Gavin the rest have no vision .no brains .....plus they are getting plenty of money from their supporters to give them a few bob as well.as the rest have no supporters .look at us on the hill today....lol" Money talks as usual and Dublin gets above and beyond their fair share. As already mentioned by someone they have everything in their back garden. They don't have to travel the length and breadth of the country for training.So you can keep pretending it's because this Dublin team is the best thing since sliced bread but in reality it's because their the only professional Gaelic football team in Ireland. | |||
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"We have only won1 minor title in the last 12 years .Kerry have won 6 .please tell me why . Is the Dublin minors not getting any money .get over it." I believe the fact that Dublin haven't won a minor title in years proves my point that Dublin are professional footballers when they reach senior football. | |||
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"If the likes of mayo .Galway. cork monaghan ..won the Euro millions they still wouldn't win an all Ireland .because they wouldn't know how to use the money .that's the trick .brains ...John Costello . Jim Gavin. Etc etc ...mayo got rid of a great manager in Rochford..because they couldn't get their goalkeeper right .now he's turning Donegal into a serious team with his coaching .mucky Graham doing same with cavan as he did with the Langford champions ..it's called football brains ..few have it outside dublin" Wrong few have the money to do it outside of Dublin. | |||
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"Kerry won most of their all Ireland's playing a very few games .example. beat Waterford in semi final cork in Munster final .Sligo in all Ireland semi and bingo ....they were in the final Now if that wasn't wiping their arse I don't know what was. Now my dear at 4pm today sir back and watch poetry in motion ...the greatest football team of all time. Even pat spillane Colm o'rourke. Joe brolly.. and that dick head from.monaghan.agree on . Jealousy is a terrible infliction " ..the " Greatest Football team of all time " ..the " poetry in motion " have scored 5 points in 30 minutes in a Leinster final ....a terrible .. terrible game of football...no score from Meath after 30 minutes ...the standard of inter county football is at an all time low .... | |||
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"Lol.lol.lol.even professional have an off day ...Messi. Ronaldo . Salah .etcetc . L Plus the Waterford hurler's lol" 5 points to 1 in a leinster final.. Enough said | |||
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"Lol.im on my first pint .. I'm going to have more pints this evening than meath got.lol" Well what did you expect from a professional team again amateur team. | |||
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"Has the GAA destroyed the game of football by building Dublin into an unbeatable team.I don't blame Dublin for what they have become which in all but name is a professional team.If the GAA spread the money a little more evenly maybe we might actually have something worth supporting." I agree with and have seen saying for years a Dublin team should be split into 4 at least 2 north and south. Make a better game. I know actually know players that if they had to choose would pick their area. | |||
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"See Donegal have reverted to Jimmy mcguinness 's puke15 men behind the ball football again " Sounds to me like your already making excuses for when the amateur team from Donegal beat the professional Dubs. | |||
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"See Donegal have reverted to Jimmy mcguinness 's puke15 men behind the ball football again " Spec savers have offers on at the minute you need to get your eyes checked | |||
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"Expected to win by more .should have played better in the first half .16 points win is not good enough " I lost all interest in Gaelic football..a game l totally loved and played all my life ... when l saw the line balls being kicked 50 yards BACK to the goalie...both yesterday's games were poor BUT on any given Sunday no one knows how or what way games will turn out..Dublin got the majority of their scores when Meath were out on their feet..not Dublin's fault...their superior fitness and strength in dept mean they're going as strong at the end as the start...Meath were punch d*unk ..gave what they had but the chances they missed were inexcusable for an inter county senior football team...chances that a better team will punish..and that my friend is why ,in my opinion , Dublin won't win the all Ireland ...their defense is not what it was or what it should be...and plus...the GAA don't do 5 in a rows...just ask Kerry or Kilkenny... | |||
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"Expected to win by more .should have played better in the first half .16 points win is not good enough I lost all interest in Gaelic football..a game l totally loved and played all my life ... when l saw the line balls being kicked 50 yards BACK to the goalie...both yesterday's games were poor BUT on any given Sunday no one knows how or what way games will turn out..Dublin got the majority of their scores when Meath were out on their feet..not Dublin's fault...their superior fitness and strength in dept mean they're going as strong at the end as the start...Meath were punch d*unk ..gave what they had but the chances they missed were inexcusable for an inter county senior football team...chances that a better team will punish..and that my friend is why ,in my opinion , Dublin won't win the all Ireland ...their defense is not what it was or what it should be...and plus...the GAA don't do 5 in a rows...just ask Kerry or Kilkenny..." ...PS...I'm not from Waterford either . | |||
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"Lol.well you say your from waterford" And you say the Dubs are " the greatest football team of all time "...so l suppose that makes it quits ...both statements are misleading... | |||
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"You will still be living in the same place .1st of September and the dubs will have made gaa history .5 in a row and greatest football team of all time. Lol.and I'm gonna get back to you then if you on here" 17 million reasons why the Dubs are top of the pile and it all comes down to money, money, money. | |||
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"You will still be living in the same place .1st of September and the dubs will have made gaa history .5 in a row and greatest football team of all time. Lol.and I'm gonna get back to you then if you on here" ....maybe l will have won the lotto in the meantime and have moved ...who knows ...and I will be up in Dublin some time at a gig and will buy you a pint if Dublin win it ..but l dont think they will ..like l said ..the GAA don't do 5 in a row...but..but ...the super 8 group stage suits Dublin down to the ground..cause if they had an off day ,they'd get the chance to recover..so there's only 2 chances that they can be beaten with no chance of recovery..the semi final or the final itself...we await with interest.. we'll talk again my friend ..and something that might surprise you ,l have Unbelievable time for one of the greatest ever to pull on a Dubs Jersey,Brian Mullins ,he was absolutely brilliant to me at a particular stage in my life as a teenager..stay safe my friend and we will chat again in September..or maybe before it.. | |||
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