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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

i love the Pure Filth podcasts, but yet again another episode when men are being castigated, rightly so in many cases. Yes there are Bad Boys out there and reading various forums, fantasy stories & even peoples veris, that is what is wanted by many women.

However the Bad Boys, the idiots with dicks, give all the Guys a "bad press/profile" .. so are women really only meeting bad boys or are these the only ones that make an impression, is being a gentleman or respecting women not appreciated, because between podcasts and forum posts, it certainly does not appear there is any appreciation for the Nice Guy

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

I think you're mixing up two types of 'bad guys'.

There's a difference between a dick/asshole and a 'bad guy' (dominant in character and action but nevertheless a gentleman). I think no woman wants to meet intentionally the first type and no woman has an issue with a gentleman.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"I think you're mixing up two types of 'bad guys'.

There's a difference between a dick/asshole and a 'bad guy' (dominant in character and action but nevertheless a gentleman). I think no woman wants to meet intentionally the first type and no woman has an issue with a gentleman. "

very well put. An assertive confident man whose nice to women will succeed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What DH said about the bad guys.

From my own personal experience of being around a lot of people. Men who openly claim to be "nice guys" tend to be the most abusive. Their own insecurities eat them alive so they pass them on to anyone who isn't interested in them often coming out with golden sentences like "I'm a nice guy, better than everyone else", "why don't you like me, I'm a nice guy", "I'm a nice guy, I treat everyone with respect and you are shallow and sad to overlook how nice I am"

I'm summary - people who claim to be nice guys often think that being nice makes them better than everyone else, makes everyone who doesn't appreciate it shallow minded and horrible human being in general. Personally I prefer bad guys- they know that we all have lives and have no need for reassurance and are more than capable of leaving you alone when you need some time alone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even sociopaths can feign "good manners".

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By *P_80Man
over a year ago

Waterford

Ah the ol' women love the bad boys topic.

There's a difference between being a so called bad boy and being a dickhead.

The term 'bad boy' refers more to a guy who is confident, doesn't seek approval and maybe shows that he doesn't need a woman so to speak. He's not a bad guy, he just has his own thing going on.

I've read a few interesting articles over the years so ladies, I'm not generalizing here, just giving a few points of what I've read.

Women find the 'bad boy' far more interesting than the gentleman, at least at the start of a potential relationship.

If she's weighing up the two personalities and has to choose, she will more likely chose the 'bad boy'.

Why? because the 'nice guy' is not challenging her mentally.

Subconsciously women like a chase as much as men, but it's a different kind of chase.

A guy that's gonna just fall at her feet and be all sweet and nice isn't what she's after.

The kind of chase a woman likes is getting the guy she's interested in to see her as a potential partner.

It's almost like a validation.

It's the reason why a woman will respond more interested by a bit of banter than a compliment.

She gets compliments all the time so why would she see yours any different?

But when a guy she fancies maybe throws in a jeer, not an insult, she will most likely respond to show the guy that she can give as good as she gets and subconsciously seeks this validation.

It throws her off a bit as she is used to the same compliments and chat up lines that most men give her.

If you ever notice when in a group and not everyone knows each other, you will see at least one interaction between a man and a woman that starts off with banter, both of them smiling and laughing with each other which more often than not leads to a kiss and maybe more.

Now, if said guy was to start the conversation with a typical compliment that she probably hears every night she goes out, yeah, she'll probably respond positively, but it most likely won't get him anywhere with her. Any potential interest she may have will drop.

I may be talking bollix here, and as I said, I'm not generalizing. Every woman is different. These are just some points I read years ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you’re 100% correct GP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah the ol' women love the bad boys topic.

..., I'm not generalizing. Every woman is different. These are just some points I read years ago."

You are completely generalising. Just saying you aren't doesn't make it so.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

I prefer people who are themselves all of the time.

I'n not fond of the whole "you don't know him like I do", where the person acts like 3 or 4 different people.

I see it a lot with men, who will tell crude jokes when out with the lads, but butter wouldnt melt when out with their girlfriend. Which one is the real them? Just weak people.

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By *P_80Man
over a year ago

Waterford


"Ah the ol' women love the bad boys topic.

..., I'm not generalizing. Every woman is different. These are just some points I read years ago.

You are completely generalising. Just saying you aren't doesn't make it so. "

Just curious how am I generalizing when I already stated that what I wrote came from an article I've read?

They aren't my views.

The feck do I know how a woman's mind works?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I prefer people who are themselves all of the time.

I'n not fond of the whole "you don't know him like I do", where the person acts like 3 or 4 different people.

I see it a lot with men, who will tell crude jokes when out with the lads, but butter wouldnt melt when out with their girlfriend. Which one is the real them? Just weak people."

We all tailor the information we share depending on our audience. It isn't two faced or showing multiple personalities. It's socialisation.

We would speak to our vanilla friends about things we would our Fab. Or our mother as we would our partner. Our work colleagues as we would closest friends.

I certainly don't feel it's weakness.

The man who's making crude jokes is more than likely trying to impress/entertain the lads and maybe covering a doubt or insecurity. The butter wouldn't melt guy is showing his girlfriend respect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah the ol' women love the bad boys topic.

..., I'm not generalizing. Every woman is different. These are just some points I read years ago.

You are completely generalising. Just saying you aren't doesn't make it so.

Just curious how am I generalizing when I already stated that what I wrote came from an article I've read?

They aren't my views.

The feck do I know how a woman's mind works? "

Like a guys. Only different. Got it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I prefer people who are themselves all of the time.

I'n not fond of the whole "you don't know him like I do", where the person acts like 3 or 4 different people.

I see it a lot with men, who will tell crude jokes when out with the lads, but butter wouldnt melt when out with their girlfriend. Which one is the real them? Just weak people.

We all tailor the information we share depending on our audience. It isn't two faced or showing multiple personalities. It's socialisation.

We would speak to our vanilla friends about things we would our Fab. Or our mother as we would our partner. Our work colleagues as we would closest friends.

I certainly don't feel it's weakness.

The man who's making crude jokes is more than likely trying to impress/entertain the lads and maybe covering a doubt or insecurity. The butter wouldn't melt guy is showing his girlfriend respect. "

Wouldn't *

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By *P_80Man
over a year ago

Waterford


"Ah the ol' women love the bad boys topic.

..., I'm not generalizing. Every woman is different. These are just some points I read years ago.

You are completely generalising. Just saying you aren't doesn't make it so.

Just curious how am I generalizing when I already stated that what I wrote came from an article I've read?

They aren't my views.

The feck do I know how a woman's mind works?

Like a guys. Only different. Got it? "

Ah I see. The mystery is solved.

Thanks for clearing that up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah the ol' women love the bad boys topic.

..., I'm not generalizing. Every woman is different. These are just some points I read years ago.

You are completely generalising. Just saying you aren't doesn't make it so.

Just curious how am I generalizing when I already stated that what I wrote came from an article I've read?

They aren't my views.

The feck do I know how a woman's mind works?

Like a guys. Only different. Got it?

Ah I see. The mystery is solved.

Thanks for clearing that up "

A ladies mind is like a spaghetti junction in rush hour whereas a man's mind is a single road through a desert

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I was think of both types of guy, obviously the dick head, no one had time for, but the dominant confident guy is often disrespectful of women.... obeying the lads bible commandment of "treat them mean, keep them keen" & often this personality is indicative of their own insecurities.

in modern society relationships are supposed to be equal.. the mistakes I made in my youth & early adult life I do not wish to repeat.

everyone is entitled to their personality choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was think of both types of guy, obviously the dick head, no one had time for, but the dominant confident guy is often disrespectful of women.... obeying the lads bible commandment of "treat them mean, keep them keen" & often this personality is indicative of their own insecurities.

in modern society relationships are supposed to be equal.. the mistakes I made in my youth & early adult life I do not wish to repeat.

everyone is entitled to their personality choice "

You're making the common mistake of confusing confidence with arrogance.

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By *he SophisticatsCouple
over a year ago

Casa Del Fun


"I was think of both types of guy, obviously the dick head, no one had time for, but the dominant confident guy is often disrespectful of women.... obeying the lads bible commandment of "treat them mean, keep them keen" & often this personality is indicative of their own insecurities.

in modern society relationships are supposed to be equal.. the mistakes I made in my youth & early adult life I do not wish to repeat.

everyone is entitled to their personality choice

You're making the common mistake of confusing confidence with arrogance."

So many make that mistake (both Male and female), from being overly confident to an arrogant twat!. That, or they simply don’t know the difference

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By *ublinGirl92Woman
over a year ago

Hell


"Ah the ol' women love the bad boys topic.

There's a difference between being a so called bad boy and being a dickhead.

The term 'bad boy' refers more to a guy who is confident, doesn't seek approval and maybe shows that he doesn't need a woman so to speak. He's not a bad guy, he just has his own thing going on.

I've read a few interesting articles over the years so ladies, I'm not generalizing here, just giving a few points of what I've read.

Women find the 'bad boy' far more interesting than the gentleman, at least at the start of a potential relationship.

If she's weighing up the two personalities and has to choose, she will more likely chose the 'bad boy'.

Why? because the 'nice guy' is not challenging her mentally.

Subconsciously women like a chase as much as men, but it's a different kind of chase.

A guy that's gonna just fall at her feet and be all sweet and nice isn't what she's after.

The kind of chase a woman likes is getting the guy she's interested in to see her as a potential partner.

It's almost like a validation.

It's the reason why a woman will respond more interested by a bit of banter than a compliment.

She gets compliments all the time so why would she see yours any different?

But when a guy she fancies maybe throws in a jeer, not an insult, she will most likely respond to show the guy that she can give as good as she gets and subconsciously seeks this validation.

It throws her off a bit as she is used to the same compliments and chat up lines that most men give her.

If you ever notice when in a group and not everyone knows each other, you will see at least one interaction between a man and a woman that starts off with banter, both of them smiling and laughing with each other which more often than not leads to a kiss and maybe more.

Now, if said guy was to start the conversation with a typical compliment that she probably hears every night she goes out, yeah, she'll probably respond positively, but it most likely won't get him anywhere with her. Any potential interest she may have will drop.

I may be talking bollix here, and as I said, I'm not generalizing. Every woman is different. These are just some points I read years ago."

In my case any way you're absolutely spot on. I feel seen!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was think of both types of guy, obviously the dick head, no one had time for, but the dominant confident guy is often disrespectful of women.... obeying the lads bible commandment of "treat them mean, keep them keen" & often this personality is indicative of their own insecurities.

in modern society relationships are supposed to be equal.. the mistakes I made in my youth & early adult life I do not wish to repeat.

everyone is entitled to their personality choice

You're making the common mistake of confusing confidence with arrogance.

So many make that mistake (both Male and female), from being overly confident to an arrogant twat!. That, or they simply don’t know the difference "

Confidence is arrogance under control. .some one once said

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By *unLovingCriminalMan
over a year ago

Somewhere

Personally I have the bad boy character but only in the bedroom or as role play it's something's that's within me but I find a need to bring it out.Outside or away from a sexual scenario I try to be a pure gentlemen and treat everybody with respect,which is also paramount in the bedroom...that said it's something alot of people keep under control and use to direct certain tensions or aspects of their personalities into sexual behaviour but control is important no one is attracted to a dickheads and I have the joy of knowing people who like the change between both sides o the coin.

For me the bad boy persona is a mask which when I'm comfortable comes off but everybody has it in them it's just about knowing a time and place for it and between them times and places treating people with the respect they deserve because not everybody does

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was think of both types of guy, obviously the dick head, no one had time for, but the dominant confident guy is often disrespectful of women.... obeying the lads bible commandment of "treat them mean, keep them keen" & often this personality is indicative of their own insecurities.

in modern society relationships are supposed to be equal.. the mistakes I made in my youth & early adult life I do not wish to repeat.

everyone is entitled to their personality choice

You're making the common mistake of confusing confidence with arrogance.

So many make that mistake (both Male and female), from being overly confident to an arrogant twat!. That, or they simply don’t know the difference

Confidence is arrogance under control. .some one once said "

Words of a mentalist

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By *ucianpoundCouple
over a year ago

Cap d’Agde, France

My wife friends and lovers tell me I’m a nice guy but for sex, only,I like to be a bad guy.

Rough play, spanking, chocking, hair pulling and hearing those cries of pain really do it for me.

Fortunately, it does it for the ladies too!

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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago

otherside of nowhere

Bad boys can be a bit of fun when thats all you want them for....all other requirements are best filled by a nice man....mrs

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By *herieWoman
over a year ago

The Burbs

Give me a nice guy anytime!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure where I fit in the again not sure I want to fit in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll take a nice guy in the street and a bady boy in the bedroom

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Bad boys can be a bit of fun when thats all you want them for....all other requirements are best filled by a nice man....mrs"

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