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"He was given a warning after the first incident and went and did it again. Given his international standing and media following he would have known what he stood to lose and he made that choice! " I think he oversteps the mark on the religious views but its some loss of talent to Australia. | |||
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"He was given a warning after the first incident and went and did it again. Given his international standing and media following he would have known what he stood to lose and he made that choice! " No sympathy for him . He had been given a warning previously. Just another example of how fundamentalist religious beliefs can warp the mind. | |||
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"He was given a warning after the first incident and went and did it again. Given his international standing and media following he would have known what he stood to lose and he made that choice! " Exactly. Fundamental of being an adult is understanding that with freedom of choice comes acceptance that our choices have consequences. | |||
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"How was his view extreme? How were they more extreme than some of the stuff his team mates are allowed to post, for example one is allowed post support for kneeling Duro American anthem. Are they more extreme views thanoh sallah or whatever that Liverpool player's name is." Yes saying Gay people will burn in hell is more extreme a view than supporting someone doibg a peaceful protest in suplort of civil rights. Can you show me where Salah tweeted something simular? | |||
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"What he said was; D*unks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolators - Hell awaits you." Which ties in with his religious views . So not specifically targeting gay people ." Oh cool he thinks most people are going to burn in hell, much better at least he is a big more inclusive | |||
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"What he said was; D*unks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolators - Hell awaits you." Which ties in with his religious views . So not specifically targeting gay people . Oh cool he thinks most people are going to burn in hell, much better at least he is a big more inclusive " Yep.... about 95% of the worlds population. Of those 8 categories I easily identify with a minimum of 5,..... 6 if you include hotel pens and 7 sometimes to get a meet with some couples lol | |||
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"What he said was; D*unks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolators - Hell awaits you." Which ties in with his religious views . So not specifically targeting gay people . Oh cool he thinks most people are going to burn in hell, much better at least he is a big more inclusive Yep.... about 95% of the worlds population. Of those 8 categories I easily identify with a minimum of 5,..... 6 if you include hotel pens and 7 sometimes to get a meet with some couples lol" You dont go to hell if its to get a woman at the end | |||
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"His statement fits in with his religious views and indeed many religious peoples views if you take the Bible literally and in isolation . I’m a total atheist . I don’t give a flying fuck whatever he or any religious person says. I believe that nobody is going to hell for stealing hotel pens or having a gin and tonic too many. But in today’s over the top, PC mad , #metooduh world , the best thing to do is say nothing as someone somewhere will get all upset, tearful, make a complaint against you, take you to court and even if you are found innocent, public opinion will demand you be punished , lose your job, move to a foreign country ( sent to social media hell) Sweet and salted please " What’s wrong with being politically correct | |||
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"His statement fits in with his religious views and indeed many religious peoples views if you take the Bible literally and in isolation . I’m a total atheist . I don’t give a flying fuck whatever he or any religious person says. I believe that nobody is going to hell for stealing hotel pens or having a gin and tonic too many. But in today’s over the top, PC mad , #metooduh world , the best thing to do is say nothing as someone somewhere will get all upset, tearful, make a complaint against you, take you to court and even if you are found innocent, public opinion will demand you be punished , lose your job, move to a foreign country ( sent to social media hell) Sweet and salted please What’s wrong with being politically correct " You mean you’ve never heard of the expression PC gone mad, the nanny state, obsession with health & safety etc etc etc etc ? | |||
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"But in today’s over the top, PC mad , #metooduh world , the best thing to do is say nothing as someone somewhere will get all upset" I hear where you're coming from but being quiet is just giving in to these cretins. Free speech is being taken away one bit at a time. Look at the Danny Baker incident recently. Ludicrous. Ok it was bad taste and not funny, but does it warrant a police investigation? | |||
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"But in today’s over the top, PC mad , #metooduh world , the best thing to do is say nothing as someone somewhere will get all upset I hear where you're coming from but being quiet is just giving in to these cretins. Free speech is being taken away one bit at a time. Look at the Danny Baker incident recently. Ludicrous. Ok it was bad taste and not funny, but does it warrant a police investigation?" Is free speech really being taken away? What is it you feel you cannot say? We have loads of issues around the world where free speech really is an issue. Two well paid idiots losing their jobs over tweets which brought their companies into disripute isnt a real danger to free speech in my opinion. If there is a criminal complaint as far as i know it has to be investigated. I am quite sure nothing will come of it, whereas there are people thrown in jail daily in other countries for expressing political opinions. | |||
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"I think sacking him Is a OTT reaction. " His contract and employment law would disagree | |||
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"I think sacking him Is a OTT reaction. His contract and employment law would disagree" obviously but the world is gone so PC, it's crazy. If you have an opinion/view on a highly charged issue/topic, you're better off keeping your mouth shut. | |||
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"I think he's perfectly in his right to share his views regardless of how fucked up they may seem. I certainly have no love for religion but I'm a grown man. I can choose how I react to such things. I couldn't care less. Also I don't buy this 'Sports persons are role models' shit. No one is responsible for how anyone else acts or thinks. However, when he's representing an organization there's bound to be consequences and understandably so. I just hope that the organization are taking this action because they feel it's justified, and not just to appease the SJW PC shitheads." I think it all comes down to who takes offence, what the current political climate is with regards to minority groups, who complains and rightly or wrongly the perceived effects that it may or may not have upon the said organisation to which they represent. IMO, most of it boils down to money, sponsorship both shirt and long term, and little to do with free speech right. The said "adult and grown ups" who take offense because some has an opinion and dares to voice it need to be adult about it and stop taking everything so personal and take personal offences, unless of course heaven forbid some of what is said holds any truth which often is why people take offence to something whatever the subject matter is. | |||
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"What did Salah tweet about it ?" He said in 2025 ya everyone was right Liverpool are all d""kheads. I seen it on the net. | |||
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"What did Salah tweet about it ? He said in 2025 ya everyone was right Liverpool are all d""kheads. I seen it on the net. " Was he in his time machine ? | |||
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"What did Salah tweet about it ? He said in 2025 ya everyone was right Liverpool are all d""kheads. I seen it on the net. " I'm surprised you are allowed on fab in the asylum. | |||
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"Yes saying Gay people will burn in hell is more extreme a view than supporting someone doibg a peaceful protest in suplort of civil rights." In your opinion. However you are not the universal arbitrator of what is offensive or not. In legal speaking in the civilized world, an opinion is less offensive than an act or call to act, ie "I believe bad people go to hell" vs "lets throw all the bad people off the roof". The first type can pretty much never get you sent to jail and the second type can. Secondly. The memebers of the armed forces of America, and their families said they found kneeling to the flag offensive. So many people found it offensive ticket sales dropped, merchandise sales fell, and players could no longer do 90% their job and sell tickets. So you finding it fine is irrelevant as those people found it offensive. This means that they are illegal using employment laws to support some controversial and offensive views and clamp down on others. Either they apply the rules evenly or not at all. Should he lose his job? 100% as long as every other player who says something political/religious/contentious loses theirs. Otherwise its an unfair dismissal. | |||
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"I’ve never understood the logic of kneeling to the flag . So because you don’t like the President, the way to protest that is to kneel at the flag. ?? Bloody stupid if you ask me. " They were not protesting against the president, they were protesting how different ethnic classes get treated, it’s just Trump took personal offence to it. | |||
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"But in today’s over the top, PC mad , #metooduh world , the best thing to do is say nothing as someone somewhere will get all upset I hear where you're coming from but being quiet is just giving in to these cretins. Free speech is being taken away one bit at a time. Look at the Danny Baker incident recently. Ludicrous. Ok it was bad taste and not funny, but does it warrant a police investigation? Is free speech really being taken away? What is it you feel you cannot say? We have loads of issues around the world where free speech really is an issue. Two well paid idiots losing their jobs over tweets which brought their companies into disripute isnt a real danger to free speech in my opinion. If there is a criminal complaint as far as i know it has to be investigated. I am quite sure nothing will come of it, whereas there are people thrown in jail daily in other countries for expressing political opinions. " The fact that it can be made a criminal complaint is my point. I have no issue with either being sacked if they have broke the terms of their employers. Apart from their contract with their employers, I can't see how it should otherwise be a legal issue. When did it become against the law to upset someone's feelings? | |||
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"Yes saying Gay people will burn in hell is more extreme a view than supporting someone doibg a peaceful protest in suplort of civil rights. In your opinion. However you are not the universal arbitrator of what is offensive or not. In legal speaking in the civilized world, an opinion is less offensive than an act or call to act, ie "I believe bad people go to hell" vs "lets throw all the bad people off the roof". The first type can pretty much never get you sent to jail and the second type can. Secondly. The memebers of the armed forces of America, and their families said they found kneeling to the flag offensive. So many people found it offensive ticket sales dropped, merchandise sales fell, and players could no longer do 90% their job and sell tickets. So you finding it fine is irrelevant as those people found it offensive. This means that they are illegal using employment laws to support some controversial and offensive views and clamp down on others. Either they apply the rules evenly or not at all. Should he lose his job? 100% as long as every other player who says something political/religious/contentious loses theirs. Otherwise its an unfair dismissal." Nonsense. What legal speaking are you referring to? Lots of different legal systems apply completely different considerations to both speech and actions. Secondly. Not "the members of the armed forces and their families" - you left out the owed "some", because others from the same group didn't. Aside from that, correlation doesn't equal causation. NFL growing figures dropped around 8%, which is in line with the general decline of viewership across TV in the states. Ticket sales agent been affected and Nike sales increased 31% after they released their Kaepernick campaign. He lost his job because he broke his employer's code of conduct. That's the long and the short of it. | |||
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"I’ve never understood the logic of kneeling to the flag . So because you don’t like the President, the way to protest that is to kneel at the flag. ?? Bloody stupid if you ask me. They were not protesting against the president, they were protesting how different ethnic classes get treated, it’s just Trump took personal offence to it. " Well yes, CK started it as a protest against police brutality but I think it really took off when Trump weighed in with his words about firing those who did it then even more people did it as a result of Trumps words . Either way I don’t agree with it | |||
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"But in today’s over the top, PC mad , #metooduh world , the best thing to do is say nothing as someone somewhere will get all upset I hear where you're coming from but being quiet is just giving in to these cretins. Free speech is being taken away one bit at a time. Look at the Danny Baker incident recently. Ludicrous. Ok it was bad taste and not funny, but does it warrant a police investigation? Is free speech really being taken away? What is it you feel you cannot say? We have loads of issues around the world where free speech really is an issue. Two well paid idiots losing their jobs over tweets which brought their companies into disripute isnt a real danger to free speech in my opinion. If there is a criminal complaint as far as i know it has to be investigated. I am quite sure nothing will come of it, whereas there are people thrown in jail daily in other countries for expressing political opinions. The fact that it can be made a criminal complaint is my point. I have no issue with either being sacked if they have broke the terms of their employers. Apart from their contract with their employers, I can't see how it should otherwise be a legal issue. When did it become against the law to upset someone's feelings?" Its not against the law which is why I said I am sure nothing will come of it. People are free to express there views the price of that is that others a free to take offence, and yes even report it to police. With Danny Baker he is a very clever guy I cant see him tweeting what he did without realising whatvit could imply | |||
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"Deserved fully, the man is a fucking eejit. Who is he to question anyone’s life choices. He says he follows the bible(Gods word) to the letter but has gotten 13 tattoos since becoming a fundamental Christian." Correct me if wrong but this "eejit" so you're now name calling, lol, hasn't questioned anyone's life choices, but quoted what the bible says. Why take offense if you don't believe in it? How does it then offer you? How do you as a non believer interpret what the bible says about tattoos? I'm genuinely interested. | |||
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"What did Salah tweet about it ? He said in 2025 ya everyone was right Liverpool are all d""kheads. I seen it on the net. Was he in his time machine ?" Ya,he stole it from Liverpool. They use it to go back to 1990. All the time. An it makes them think they have one the league a lot sooner then they have | |||
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"What did Salah tweet about it ? He said in 2025 ya everyone was right Liverpool are all d""kheads. I seen it on the net. I'm surprised you are allowed on fab in the asylum. " Your definitely a Liverpool | |||
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"What did Salah tweet about it ? He said in 2025 ya everyone was right Liverpool are all d""kheads. I seen it on the net. I'm surprised you are allowed on fab in the asylum. Your definitely a Liverpool " The nurse is on the way. Don't worry. Everything will be ok sweetheart. They'll just put you to sleep for a little bit with your favourite blanket x | |||
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"What did Salah tweet about it ? He said in 2025 ya everyone was right Liverpool are all d""kheads. I seen it on the net. I'm surprised you are allowed on fab in the asylum. Your definitely a Liverpool The nurse is on the way. Don't worry. Everything will be ok sweetheart. They'll just put you to sleep for a little bit with your favourite blanket x" Think he has a point | |||
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"What did Salah tweet about it ? He said in 2025 ya everyone was right Liverpool are all d""kheads. I seen it on the net. I'm surprised you are allowed on fab in the asylum. Your definitely a Liverpool The nurse is on the way. Don't worry. Everything will be ok sweetheart. They'll just put you to sleep for a little bit with your favourite blanket x" OK night night zzzzzzz they won the league they won the league. O no I was dreaming. It felt so real tho | |||
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"At least if your going to quote on the subject be aware of the details. He posted the infamous scripture he then gave a testimony of why god would judge those who made these choices in his church. Maybe clue in before trying to contribute. " Touchy? I have a clue if you'd care to look at a previous post by myself on Israel, obviously more than you think. Think you've reinforced what I said earlier about people just taking offense, either because they just want too or because it touches a nerve. | |||
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"At least if your going to quote on the subject be aware of the details. He posted the infamous scripture he then gave a testimony of why god would judge those who made these choices in his church. Maybe clue in before trying to contribute. Touchy? I have a clue if you'd care to look at a previous post by myself on Israel, obviously more than you think. Think you've reinforced what I said earlier about people just taking offense, either because they just want too or because it touches a nerve." He didn't express offence there, I'd read that as frustration on his part. But your reply reads like you're taking offence, not sure if it's because you want to or it touched a nerve. | |||
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"At least if your going to quote on the subject be aware of the details. He posted the infamous scripture he then gave a testimony of why god would judge those who made these choices in his church. Maybe clue in before trying to contribute. Touchy? I have a clue if you'd care to look at a previous post by myself on Israel, obviously more than you think. Think you've reinforced what I said earlier about people just taking offense, either because they just want too or because it touches a nerve. He didn't express offence there, I'd read that as frustration on his part. But your reply reads like you're taking offence, not sure if it's because you want to or it touched a nerve." His agressive wording would indicate otherwise. | |||
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"So are you going to address where you said he didn’t judge people’s life choices. Did you see his testimony 10 days ago in church. Are you aware Israel would feel you as a sexually liberal man will burn in hell." You've now changed from public tweeting to what he said in church. What one says in public us what this case has been all about. The NSWRU wouldn't have said anything concerning what he says in church. | |||
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"At least if your going to quote on the subject be aware of the details. He posted the infamous scripture he then gave a testimony of why god would judge those who made these choices in his church. Maybe clue in before trying to contribute. Touchy? I have a clue if you'd care to look at a previous post by myself on Israel, obviously more than you think. Think you've reinforced what I said earlier about people just taking offense, either because they just want too or because it touches a nerve. He didn't express offence there, I'd read that as frustration on his part. But your reply reads like you're taking offence, not sure if it's because you want to or it touched a nerve. His aggressive wording would indicate otherwise." FYP | |||
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"So are you going to address where you said he didn’t judge people’s life choices. Did you see his testimony 10 days ago in church. Are you aware Israel would feel you as a sexually liberal man will burn in hell. You've now changed from public tweeting to what he said in church. What one says in public us what this case has been all about. The NSWRU wouldn't have said anything concerning what he says in church." It’s irrelevant what the Warratahs say as his contract is with AR and Kate Eastman decided that no longer will be the case, Praise be to the lord. And I have lent changed anything, read above I’ve listed the social media post along with the church pulpit sermon. But sure you just choose what you want to see and let everyone laugh at your ignorance in the mean time. | |||
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"I think sacking him Is a OTT reaction. His contract and employment law would disagree" I agree. His statement also indicates a lack of judgement and sets a poor example to young people who may look up to him. | |||
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"I think sacking him Is a OTT reaction. His contract and employment law would disagree I agree. His statement also indicates a lack of judgement and sets a poor example to young people who may look up to him. " This +1 | |||
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"Frig me... what is wrong with some of you people ?" What do you think the problem is? | |||
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"I agree that all professional athletes should be held accountable for what they say as guys like Folau are role models, however I find the fact that stars like Vunipola aren't being taken to task over the same views and statements strange " RFU don’t have the discrimination clause in the contract. They legally can’t do anything. | |||
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"I agree that all professional athletes should be held accountable for what they say as guys like Folau are role models, however I find the fact that stars like Vunipola aren't being taken to task over the same views and statements strange RFU don’t have the discrimination clause in the contract. They legally can’t do anything." That's unacceptable in my view for one man to get away with the very same comments and views that another gets fired for | |||
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"I agree that all professional athletes should be held accountable for what they say as guys like Folau are role models, however I find the fact that stars like Vunipola aren't being taken to task over the same views and statements strange RFU don’t have the discrimination clause in the contract. They legally can’t do anything. That's unacceptable in my view for one man to get away with the very same comments and views that another gets fired for" I agree, personally I’d have the pair of them thrown into the RVC, with TV/TS , Couples, The Lot and made watch the carry ons | |||
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"It's all part of God's plan that he was sacked." Let’s hope god pays mortgages. | |||
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"But in today’s over the top, PC mad , #metooduh world , the best thing to do is say nothing as someone somewhere will get all upset I hear where you're coming from but being quiet is just giving in to these cretins. Free speech is being taken away one bit at a time. Look at the Danny Baker incident recently. Ludicrous. Ok it was bad taste and not funny, but does it warrant a police investigation?" There was never such a thing as free speech..if youre views dont conform to what the masses think youll be smashed to pieces ..it was always like this..free speech is a myth | |||
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"It's all part of God's plan that he was sacked. Let’s hope god pays mortgages." Well if he doesn't I guess he works in "mysterious ways". | |||
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"But in today’s over the top, PC mad , #metooduh world , the best thing to do is say nothing as someone somewhere will get all upset I hear where you're coming from but being quiet is just giving in to these cretins. Free speech is being taken away one bit at a time. Look at the Danny Baker incident recently. Ludicrous. Ok it was bad taste and not funny, but does it warrant a police investigation? There was never such a thing as free speech..if youre views dont conform to what the masses think youll be smashed to pieces ..it was always like this..free speech is a myth " Free speech is a myth? Really? | |||
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"It's all part of God's plan that he was sacked. Let’s hope god pays mortgages. Well if he doesn't I guess he works in "mysterious ways"." This | |||
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"Free speech is a myth? Really? " Of course its a myth there are so many people that want to speak their minds but if they did they would be killed or at least have their lives destroyed..free speech is a bullshit fairytale..as long as your views conform with thr masses youll be ok but if it deviates of if you disagree with what the flock of sheep think youre in trouble big trouble..free speech means exactly that free...free from all consequences..look at this case the man spoke his mind and lost his career..does that sound like free speech to you? | |||
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"Free speech is a myth? Really? Of course its a myth there are so many people that want to speak their minds but if they did they would be killed or at least have their lives destroyed..free speech is a bullshit fairytale..as long as your views conform with thr masses youll be ok but if it deviates of if you disagree with what the flock of sheep think youre in trouble big trouble..free speech means exactly that free...free from all consequences..look at this case the man spoke his mind and lost his career..does that sound like free speech to you?" Ok ok so I’ve established what you really mean. So there is people who want to say what they feel but they can’t due to THEM Signing a contract which limits them being DISCRIMINATORY against others regarding their life choices. When you sign a contract to say I won’t bring the sport into disrepute you sign it if your own free will. You get paid 4 million a year for it. | |||
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"No-one's freedom of speech is threatened. The guy was free to say what he likes. He still is. The rugby authority is simply protecting the values of the sport and saying we want nothing to do with you. He is free to carry on saying whatever he likes. " Yes he is free to say whatever he likes but he's also free to no longer represent his country, nor is he free to be the role model he once was. People like Folaou need to realise while you can say whatever you want, everything has a consequence | |||
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