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"50 dead Could it ever happen here?" Barney,I think you’ll find it happened here often - La Mon, Droppin Well, Onagh, Bloody Sunday, Ballymurphy and many many more. Man’s inhumanity never ceases to amaze ..... | |||
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"It was streamed live " It's all over YouTube.... It's actually horrific, how someone could so calmly commit such an atrocity like that is beyond me. | |||
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"I saw a bit of the video. So cold blooded and unnecessary. What did he think he was going to achieve? Tit for tat is never constructive. All that's left now is more pain, suffering and hatred." Psychos, brainwashed sociopaths... Call them even beasts. It is not a civilised world... | |||
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"He’s an Australian, with Irish Scottish an English background carrying out an attack in another country, an he’s Opposed to people from other countries taking jobs ect shows his mentality " Maybe a reason for this way of thinking is no one seems to see a problem with the fact that dark skinned people are referred to as immigrants while white people are refereed to as ex-pats. I saw it with my own eyes in Australia the level of blatant racism and discrimination from the white folk out there. I can't comment on the US but something tells me it's pretty much the same over there. | |||
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"Camera mann i pity you, i truly do. Must suck living in fear like you do. I wonder what you'd say face to face to a father that has lost his young child in this attack today ? Probably nothing, it's much more fun to be an internet troll..." Those fathers are indoctrinating own kids in name of fake gods... Sometimes you have to go for a war to get rid of bad blood.. | |||
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"Im not trying to provoke pal." Don't mind them, when Stephen Fry blasted the Catholic religion, restrictions on him attacking religion in Ireland were widely condemned as being backwards, and we will be removing protection for religions from our constitution. Your post did nothing really wrong. The people complaining are just modern rubber bandits type liberals. Their kneejerk reaction decides what is acceptable and not, not a central moral code towards liberal freedom of expression. Looking good on social media dictates their stance most of the time. | |||
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"Im not trying to provoke pal. Don't mind them, when Stephen Fry blasted the Catholic religion, restrictions on him attacking religion in Ireland were widely condemned as being backwards, and we will be removing protection for religions from our constitution. Your post did nothing really wrong. The people complaining are just modern rubber bandits type liberals. Their kneejerk reaction decides what is acceptable and not, not a central moral code towards liberal freedom of expression. Looking good on social media dictates their stance most of the time." Europe will colapse in name of tolerance. | |||
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"Traditionally this kind of behaviour does not happen in Ireland (we didnt take back churches or land from protestants instead we put protections in the constitution to protect all life and all religions). But the maths says we are due such events soonish, and we are due a big war in Europe when the people who are 10 now are running the show (they grow up after we chipped away all the hard learned lessons from war in constitutions). So if people who come to the country dont carry them out first, Irish people will in about 10-15 years." I come from a country with a large muslim minority that has been viciously attacked by Isis multiple times. Does that make me hate all muslims, certainly not. They are peace loving and family oriented people and have enriched my country's culture over the last 60 years. What i don't tolerate is extremism and bigotry. Breitvik and Isis have a lot in common... | |||
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"So it’s ok to murder innocent civilians because of their religion? The holocaust was ok then was it?" Is the blocking people all you can doo ? | |||
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"Traditionally this kind of behaviour does not happen in Ireland (we didnt take back churches or land from protestants instead we put protections in the constitution to protect all life and all religions). But the maths says we are due such events soonish, and we are due a big war in Europe when the people who are 10 now are running the show (they grow up after we chipped away all the hard learned lessons from war in constitutions). So if people who come to the country dont carry them out first, Irish people will in about 10-15 years. I come from a country with a large muslim minority that has been viciously attacked by Isis multiple times. Does that make me hate all muslims, certainly not. They are peace loving and family oriented people and have enriched my country's culture over the last 60 years. What i don't tolerate is extremism and bigotry. Breitvik and Isis have a lot in common..." I like muslims. They nice friendly people. Religion is bad. They been wash brained with no escape option. Try tell your catholic mum that your God sucks.. | |||
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"Looking good on social media dictates their stance most of the time." How about basic decency ? For a catholic traditionalist i am surprised by your view. I don't remember Jesus saying let's kill them all but maybe i misread... | |||
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"Christ Ur a bundle of laughs So we all goin to turn Muslim over nite The English were here for 800 lol?? You mite be better spend your time meeting normal people on fab than conspiracy theories on the internet ??" Bro as i said i have no problem what you belive into. I have Indian, Muslim, Buddist friends. No problem. Religion is root if evil. Dont spray it on other. Especially on innocent kids. Iam against killing humans. | |||
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"Jesus said... bla bla bla. I dint belive in this shit. How you know if he was existing if Jewish people changed bible ? Start reading books Btw Jewish killed Jesus. Own king... every religion is root of war and evil. But you dint see it. Or dont want. Its easier to live in lie" For the record, i don't believe either but 'Devil u know', your only supporter here, does and you made him really sad. Now time for me to leave you two to your cesspool of thoughts, i have better things to do with my life. | |||
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"The hatred and bigotry is rife Such an argument" More a statement of fact | |||
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"Don’t feed the trolls folk. One week on and he’s posting this kind of stuff? Makes you wonder..." And who you are ? Typical. No arguments so calling people trolls. And you want get power. Arguments please my lady | |||
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"Hardly a problem we have a drug war on the streets " And a human trafficking problem, even here on our shores. As a global issue it's second largest criminal activity only just behind the Drugs. Arms is behind human trafficking now. It's worse today than any time in recorded history. Few care as apparently it doesn't effect them. In southern Ireland 2017, 52 cases of sexual exploitation (43w 9m), 38 of labour, (6w 32m), 4 of criminality (4m). These don't show the scale, only those caught. It's a crime hidden in plain sight. It's trebled each year in the last 3 years to '17. Authorities are only just touching the tip of it. | |||
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"Stinks of Cavan Sligo " I was thinking along the same lines | |||
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"For the record, i don't believe either but 'Devil u know', your only supporter here, does and you made him really sad. " I'm not sad, I'm conservative so I think what he said, and what stephen fry said are both equally bad. But I live in a democracy where the rest of you have decided its okay. | |||
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"Jesus said... bla bla bla. I dint belive in this shit. How you know if he was existing if Jewish people changed bible ? Start reading books Btw Jewish killed Jesus. Own king... every religion is root of war and evil. But you dint see it. Or dont want. Its easier to live in lie" What you believe there is less about truth but more about your own issues with religion and a blame culture of pointing away. It's understandable to want to blame something else but doesn't mean it's right. The root is man's own heart, everyone of ours. That's where the greed, bigotry, evil, anger, hatred all rises from, including Love, compassion, mercy, forgiveness and all that's good in humanity. Religion, war, culture, nationality, governing systems etc are only a vehicle for man's heart, whatever he chooses to let out. That's why change does and can happen with individuals. | |||
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"Jesus said... bla bla bla. I dint belive in this shit. How you know if he was existing if Jewish people changed bible ? Start reading books Btw Jewish killed Jesus. Own king... every religion is root of war and evil. But you dint see it. Or dont want. Its easier to live in lie What you believe there is less about truth but more about your own issues with religion and a blame culture of pointing away. It's understandable to want to blame something else but doesn't mean it's right. The root is man's own heart, everyone of ours. That's where the greed, bigotry, evil, anger, hatred all rises from, including Love, compassion, mercy, forgiveness and all that's good in humanity. Religion, war, culture, nationality, governing systems etc are only a vehicle for man's heart, whatever he chooses to let out. That's why change does and can happen with individuals." Very well put! | |||
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"Looking good on social media dictates their stance most of the time. How about basic decency ? For a catholic traditionalist i am surprised by your view. I don't remember Jesus saying let's kill them all but maybe i misread..." I'm not a catholic? I do believe in a God but I believe we are all God and it is a personal belief not a recognized religion. | |||
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"50 dead Could it ever happen here?" It could happen anywhere these days religions fuck everything up | |||
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"Jesus said... bla bla bla. I dint belive in this shit. How you know if he was existing if Jewish people changed bible ? Start reading books Btw Jewish killed Jesus. Own king... every religion is root of war and evil. But you dint see it. Or dont want. Its easier to live in lie" No one killed Jesus when he didn't even exist!!! | |||
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"I'm lost. Can someone explain to me what religion has got to do with some half life deciding to murder 50 people?" Nothing. Hitler was a left wing socialist who had more in common with Obama than right wing capitalist Trump. Our media and most people in Ireland/Uk/USA are liberal, atheist, socialist leaning. If the whole world was like them war would never happen again, so it must be religion that is the cause, or racism, or alt right, or something that is not them. But really its just gonna happen regardless. | |||
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"I'm lost. Can someone explain to me what religion has got to do with some half life deciding to murder 50 people? Nothing. Hitler was a left wing socialist who had more in common with Obama than right wing capitalist Trump. Our media and most people in Ireland/Uk/USA are liberal, atheist, socialist leaning. If the whole world was like them war would never happen again, so it must be religion that is the cause, or racism, or alt right, or something that is not them. But really its just gonna happen regardless." Hitler was not a left wing socialist. | |||
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"Hitler was not a left wing socialist. " The National Socialist German Workers' Party = Nazi. You can not be a Nazi without being socialist. Socialist = Left wing. Capitalist = Right wing. When people refer to him as right wing they mean authoritarian, the opposite of democratic. | |||
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"49 people dead from terror in new zealand they call it a national tradgedy...in in syria they call it thursday" Exactly nobody gives a shit when this happens in the middle east but it happens in a western country and their is outrage..why? | |||
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"Just watched the whole video. Religious motivation or not, believing you're trying to 'protect' your community or not, being able to shoot someone like that girl in the back as she lay on the ground crying for help is just pure evil. It gave me chills." Yet for some obscene reason you decided to watch It........ | |||
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"Just watched the whole video. Religious motivation or not, believing you're trying to 'protect' your community or not, being able to shoot someone like that girl in the back as she lay on the ground crying for help is just pure evil. It gave me chills." Just watched it myself..didnt really find it that graphic just people being shot..guess ive watched too many cop shows | |||
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"Just watched the whole video. Religious motivation or not, believing you're trying to 'protect' your community or not, being able to shoot someone like that girl in the back as she lay on the ground crying for help is just pure evil. It gave me chills. Just watched it myself..didnt really find it that graphic just people being shot..guess ive watched too many cop shows " The content didn't give me chills, just the way he could shoot her like that with no hesitation. I'm fascinated by the dark side of the human mind. I've watched far worse in terms of graphic but it's rare you get a glimpse of the persons POV. | |||
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"I'm lost. Can someone explain to me what religion has got to do with some half life deciding to murder 50 people? When his mug shot appears he will be a short skinny mangy looking scum bag like every other one of these idiots. They are scum bag half lives that contribute nothing to the world and unfortunately aren't neutured at birth. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with religion " Attacks on mosques have nothing to do with religion ?.Honestly ? Willfull ignorace at it's best. | |||
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"Just watched the whole video. Religious motivation or not, believing you're trying to 'protect' your community or not, being able to shoot someone like that girl in the back as she lay on the ground crying for help is just pure evil. It gave me chills. Yet for some obscene reason you decided to watch It........ " I just have a fascination with these things. I don't get pleasure out of viewing them, they just interest me. | |||
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"Yes what was more disturbing was after he shot her he drove his car over her as she was in the way " Also it was a bit spooky the way as soon as he got back to his car the song 'Fire' came on his car radio. "I am the god of hell fire" | |||
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"Yes what was more disturbing was after he shot her he drove his car over her as she was in the way Also it was a bit spooky the way as soon as he got back to his car the song 'Fire' came on his car radio. "I am the god of hell fire"" All part of the plan GP he's off the charts | |||
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"Yes what was more disturbing was after he shot her he drove his car over her as she was in the way Also it was a bit spooky the way as soon as he got back to his car the song 'Fire' came on his car radio. "I am the god of hell fire" All part of the plan GP he's off the charts " It was impeccable timing, but when he drove off he said, "That didn't go to plan" | |||
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"I'm lost. Can someone explain to me what religion has got to do with some half life deciding to murder 50 people? When his mug shot appears he will be a short skinny mangy looking scum bag like every other one of these idiots. They are scum bag half lives that contribute nothing to the world and unfortunately aren't neutured at birth. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with religion Attacks on mosques have nothing to do with religion ?.Honestly ? Willfull ignorace at it's best. " It's bit simplistic at best to imply its about religion. It's far more complicated than that, its more about everything else associated economically, socially, governance, about tolerance towards others and I could go on and on, that the "Christian" or Islamic world stands for which has insisted much of the attacks, little of which is religious. If there was NO religion in this world, I'm sorry to say but it wouldn't change the hatred, anger, resentment, greed, power..... That causes man to do this. | |||
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"I'm lost. Can someone explain to me what religion has got to do with some half life deciding to murder 50 people? When his mug shot appears he will be a short skinny mangy looking scum bag like every other one of these idiots. They are scum bag half lives that contribute nothing to the world and unfortunately aren't neutured at birth. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with religion " Why wouldn't it be about religion? They were part of the Muslim faith not one white victim in that video the shooter had a manifesto he complained that the Muslims were taking jobs building more places to pray in and organise there terrorist movement which is powered by there faith... | |||
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"Camera Mann is now UNLOS... surprise surprise!" To be fair, he had a right to voice his opinions. I wonder did he leave by his own accord or if he was reported and banned. I'd hope it wasn't the latter. We're all supposed to be grown ups here. I have to admit I got a laugh off his 'bi' thread earlier. I was looking forward to reading some of the other topics that crossed his mind | |||
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"Camera Mann is now UNLOS... surprise surprise! To be fair, he had a right to voice his opinions. I wonder did he leave by his own accord or if he was reported and banned. I'd hope it wasn't the latter. We're all supposed to be grown ups here. I have to admit I got a laugh off his 'bi' thread earlier. I was looking forward to reading some of the other topics that crossed his mind " I’m sure he’ll be back for more entertainment! | |||
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"It has nothing to do with religion Why wouldn't it be about religion? They were part of the Muslim faith not one white victim in that video the shooter had a manifesto he complained that the Muslims were taking jobs building more places to pray in and organise there terrorist movement which is powered by there faith..." Because unlike you, I believe that if the muslim religion did not exist, he still would have shot up maybe his work place, or his school. | |||
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"Attacks on mosques have nothing to do with religion ?.Honestly ? Willfull ignorace at it's best. " In my opinion its you displaying willful ignorance. You expect me to believe if the muslim religion did not exist this man wouldn't have shot up a school or his job or something else instead, he would have magically been cured? Seriously? | |||
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"Attacks on mosques have nothing to do with religion ?.Honestly ? Willfull ignorace at it's best. In my opinion its you displaying willful ignorance. You expect me to believe if the muslim religion did not exist this man wouldn't have shot up a school or his job or something else instead, he would have magically been cured? Seriously?" Yes I agree with you that could also happen but it's just not the case this time round. he had many reasons to do this and one was religion it isn't out of the realms of possibility | |||
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"Attacks on mosques have nothing to do with religion ?.Honestly ? Willfull ignorace at it's best. In my opinion its you displaying willful ignorance. You expect me to believe if the muslim religion did not exist this man wouldn't have shot up a school or his job or something else instead, he would have magically been cured? Seriously? Yes I agree with you that could also happen but it's just not the case this time round. he had many reasons to do this and one was religion it isn't out of the realms of possibility " You have a religious chip. Not the first time you blame religion for something that is just mans evil. Religion isn't bad. White supremacy was his ideology...nothing religious. | |||
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"It has nothing to do with religion Why wouldn't it be about religion? They were part of the Muslim faith not one white victim in that video the shooter had a manifesto he complained that the Muslims were taking jobs building more places to pray in and organise there terrorist movement which is powered by there faith... Because unlike you, I believe that if the muslim religion did not exist, he still would have shot up maybe his work place, or his school." | |||
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"Attacks on mosques have nothing to do with religion ?.Honestly ? Willfull ignorace at it's best. In my opinion its you displaying willful ignorance. You expect me to believe if the muslim religion did not exist this man wouldn't have shot up a school or his job or something else instead, he would have magically been cured? Seriously? Yes I agree with you that could also happen but it's just not the case this time round. he had many reasons to do this and one was religion it isn't out of the realms of possibility You have a religious chip. Not the first time you blame religion for something that is just mans evil. Religion isn't bad. White supremacy was his ideology...nothing religious. " You would say that haha is it not in the Muslim faith that it's ok to stone a gay man how is that not bad religion? And if you may read what I said it was ONE of many reasons for his actions | |||
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"Attacks on mosques have nothing to do with religion ?.Honestly ? Willfull ignorace at it's best. In my opinion its you displaying willful ignorance. You expect me to believe if the muslim religion did not exist this man wouldn't have shot up a school or his job or something else instead, he would have magically been cured? Seriously? Yes I agree with you that could also happen but it's just not the case this time round. he had many reasons to do this and one was religion it isn't out of the realms of possibility You have a religious chip. Not the first time you blame religion for something that is just mans evil. Religion isn't bad. White supremacy was his ideology...nothing religious. You would say that haha is it not in the Muslim faith that it's ok to stone a gay man how is that not bad religion? And if you may read what I said it was ONE of many reasons for his actions" Have you asked who created Religion or maybe you believe religion was created by an outside force (I'm trying to be PC). Is it not man himself who has created religion in order to express a personal experience and belief which is ultimately impossible to convey in normal human language as it transcends common experience which is difficult to define to those who have no experience and therefore cannot understand? Indefinable to someone without any personal experience or knowledge. Religion is just a language, using different forms to express and demonstrate. Faith is personal. In a sense, for me, the language that you choose is not that important, it’s what you are expressing that actually matters because it's not the religion (the language) but the personal experience which is from inside. Some express is it very well, others less so, this can be due to a better understanding and less confusion. Some express it very badly, due to misunderstanding and their heart being in a bad place and it's misplaced. They are still people. For those who don't believe in or say there is no God, you're not able to prove he/she doesn't exist, most are just denying God's existence through lack of experience or denial for whatever reason. This could be a heart issue too. As I've said before, it's a heart issue and not religion or any other man made system, the one thing you have control of is your heart. What comes out of it is what you feed into it. Drops Mike and gets off the box lol | |||
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"Attacks on mosques have nothing to do with religion ?.Honestly ? Willfull ignorace at it's best. In my opinion its you displaying willful ignorance. You expect me to believe if the muslim religion did not exist this man wouldn't have shot up a school or his job or something else instead, he would have magically been cured? Seriously? Yes I agree with you that could also happen but it's just not the case this time round. he had many reasons to do this and one was religion it isn't out of the realms of possibility You have a religious chip. Not the first time you blame religion for something that is just mans evil. Religion isn't bad. White supremacy was his ideology...nothing religious. You would say that haha is it not in the Muslim faith that it's ok to stone a gay man how is that not bad religion? And if you may read what I said it was ONE of many reasons for his actions" Until the 1950s a woman in Ireland had to go through a cleansing ritual in the Irish church for her sin in having sex and giving birth.. Based on this wonderful text by that well known Liberal leviticus But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5) So I'm sorry. Be awful careful quoting daft shite out of the Koran. We Christians have been writing and practicing dafter shite for longer. This was murder by a creep and sure enough his picture shows him as a skinny bald little half life. Isn't it odd that if you put all these pieces of shit from mass shootings together they look like brothers? | |||
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"Attacks on mosques have nothing to do with religion ?.Honestly ? Willfull ignorace at it's best. In my opinion its you displaying willful ignorance. You expect me to believe if the muslim religion did not exist this man wouldn't have shot up a school or his job or something else instead, he would have magically been cured? Seriously? Yes I agree with you that could also happen but it's just not the case this time round. he had many reasons to do this and one was religion it isn't out of the realms of possibility You have a religious chip. Not the first time you blame religion for something that is just mans evil. Religion isn't bad. White supremacy was his ideology...nothing religious. You would say that haha is it not in the Muslim faith that it's ok to stone a gay man how is that not bad religion? And if you may read what I said it was ONE of many reasons for his actions Until the 1950s a woman in Ireland had to go through a cleansing ritual in the Irish church for her sin in having sex and giving birth.. Based on this wonderful text by that well known Liberal leviticus But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5) So I'm sorry. Be awful careful quoting daft shite out of the Koran. We Christians have been writing and practicing dafter shite for longer. This was murder by a creep and sure enough his picture shows him as a skinny bald little half life. Isn't it odd that if you put all these pieces of shit from mass shootings together they look like brothers? " But this happened only in Ireland so should you say 'we Irish' not 'we christians'??? | |||
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"But this happened only in Ireland so should you say 'we Irish' not 'we christians'???" It was just an example, if you go through all the christian faiths in all the christian countries you find strange quirks. The simple fact is, abusers seek out positions to abuse, and psychopath murderers do the same. One of the big problems in the French Legion is trying to out the whack job murderers, people join up just to murder. In syria it is not really the muslim religion causing the problem. It is psychopaths and total nut jobs traveling hundreds/thousands of miles because they know they will get to chuck people off a roof. Thats my view of it. | |||
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"Phobia is spelt with a ph not an f. " Depends in which language. Getting harder when someone speaks few of them, but I don't think you have this problem | |||
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"Islam Christianity Judaism Hinduism and no other religion ever killed anybody. Just two corrections for you. " And big correction here two, Mahomet the biggest prophet of Islam was a murderer. Hundreds beheaded in Medina in 622. Show similar in Christianity? Obviously some history knowledge not your problem as well | |||
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"Islam Christianity Judaism Hinduism and no other religion ever killed anybody. Just two corrections for you. And big correction here two, Mahomet the biggest prophet of Islam was a murderer. Hundreds beheaded in Medina in 622. Show similar in Christianity? Obviously some history knowledge not your problem as well" First crusade's capture of Jerusalem, 70,000 inhabitants massacred. Third crusade, 3,000 prisoners of war put to death by Richard the lionheart...Shall i continue ? All religions can safely compete with each other when it comes to gruesome acts of inhumanity over the years. | |||
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"Islam Christianity Judaism Hinduism and no other religion ever killed anybody. Just two corrections for you. And big correction here two, Mahomet the biggest prophet of Islam was a murderer. Hundreds beheaded in Medina in 622. Show similar in Christianity? Obviously some history knowledge not your problem as well First crusade's capture of Jerusalem, 70,000 inhabitants massacred. Third crusade, 3,000 prisoners of war put to death by Richard the lionheart...Shall i continue ? All religions can safely compete with each other when it comes to gruesome acts of inhumanity over the years." where crusadors the prophets realy???? Mahomet was. Or you talk about religion or yoi talk about followers??? | |||
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"where crusadors the prophets realy???? Mahomet was. Or you talk about religion or yoi talk about followers???" We're talking about history mostly not religion. Jesus and Mohammed getting their hands dirty or not does not change the content of their teachings or absolve the actions of their followers in their name. Interesting fun fact for you, Jesus is also considered a prophet for Muslims. | |||
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"An impromptu shooting ... And now there's a war of words with Turkey. What has happened to this world. Have they all gone mad!!!" Media has a lot to answer for. Imagine if we had a massive global electromagnetic storm that put out all comms. So much shit stirring would stop. Imagine what this place would be like again... | |||
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